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THE 
HISTORY and PROCEEDING 

i^.ti^J^^.^.:t OF THE 

oufe of Commons 



FROM THE 



RESTORATION 

T O TH E 

PRESENT TIME3 

CONTAINING 
The moft remarkable Motioms, Speeche!;, R 

SOLVES, KePORTS and C0NF£RENC£S to b 

met with in that Interval : 



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AS ALSO 

Tbc moftexaft Estimates of chc Charpe of Govern 
State of the Pub tic Rev8nue j the Rife and Gm 
tbc National DiBT, Expcnce of the War, Pi 
in^on Ways and Means, Speeches, and Mes 
from the Throne, Addresses and Rsmonstranc 
alfo the Numbers Pro and Cm "upon every DivJiion, (*(c. 

Maiiy of which Curioai Parriculan were never before piinto 

Oilleded from the bdl Authorities, 

Conpiitd wiib the Joukkali of Ihc Hou»e : 

And illudratcd wkb a gmc Variety of Historical a 
Explanatory TSqtei. 

Together with a large APPENDIX, 

CONTAINING 
ExaR Lists of every Parliament, ihc Names of i 
Spbakkks, ibcir le<'cral Posts under the Govcinmen 
and other vaJuable, Supplctncntal Pieces. 



VOL. Xil. 



I O N D O K: 

printed for RicnAao Chamdlkk, and fold «t the Stif with 
3tmfii-$0r, and u Ytrk and acerftreu^b. 17,^2, 



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CONTENTS 



OF TH E 



f SEVENTH VOLUME. 
3!&r Seventh Session of the Second Par* 
liament of King GEORGE tbeSectmd. 



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11^ IN G^ speech to bath He uTn ■ Paget 

' XMotioD coDCCrniag laA Ynrt Suppljr oTcr-rakd — j 

Thaokt given to AdminJ Vernoa > . ■ ibii. 

An Addrtfi for an Embargo on ProviCona - i^iJ. 

I Ults, ^i', ciUfd for, ind lO.ooo Seamen votnl ■ 4 
Wavi and Meutf, tsid a Paper, call'd. CsKJUUratiamt m 

IM Embargt ■ — ^^ — -^— — -m ««■* J 
Debate 00 the &id Paper — ■■ ■ _— _ , . 11* 
Rffoluiion* iheicoo -^^■^— - ■ ■ -■ ay 

^_Arin)' Votes 

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uir on employing the Hair-papOHken ■ ■ 

'Kojrii AfiicDi given to ihc Land Tax Bill ' ■ . 

'Scvcial Deficicnciei made good - ■' -■■ ■ ■ ■ ^ 
SerenI Petitioni received » - ■ — .. 

Vote* on theSapp'y ™ ■ 

Mr Waller*} Moiion for two Letttn fcnt to Admiral 

Haddock, and Dctuce thcrron - 

BlU for ihc Encoaragement of SenmeA - ■ 

Debate thereon ■ — - . .. — ■ ■■ -^— 

Ordertd 10 be printed 



Pttiliont compainiag of the Woolen Manufiflure - ^ 
Mr. SaadjF'i Marion relating to the Suling of the French 
and SptaHfa Fleet 



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Other Pctil'ont relating to tJhe Wotrlcn Manufaanrc*— 63 

Mr. 



CONTENTS. 

Mr. Smdyi'j Motion for removing Sir Robert Wilpolc, 

and Detuie ihcrcon — ^— ■ — _ 6^ 

Diviftoa on the fxid Motioo — ..^^— m 

Reading Hleflion decided — — — — —miM. 

Debate on the quancring ofSoIdicrs ■ .^_ i2t 

Debate on a Bill to cxplsiD an A£i relating to Infurarces i So 

The Bill itfelf ■ 198 

Farther Debate on tbe Seaman's Bill -- ■ — . xoo 
Petition to limit Seamen's Wigcs .^^^ — %jS 

Farther Debate on [he Seamen's Bill ■ . tjfi 

Abftraft of the Bill for opening .1 Trade with Perfia thro' 

Ruflia -— ^— ^-^ 262 

Farther Debate on the Seamao's BUI ■^_ jfrj 

lAndon pcinJkn agaioit the laid BjI), and Sir John Bar- 
nard's Speech At the prefrnting thereof _ 286 

GloucclUr Petition ag^inflihctaid Bill, and M 
Sprech at the ptelcnting thereof 

Debite on the laid Petition 

Royal AfTcr: given tofcveral A&s . . | 

farther Debate on the Seamen's Bill . t 

Royal A^Teni givco to fcveni AAs, and King's Speech 
AddrelV lo reiorn . — — 

Sir Robert Waipole'i Motion for 200,000 1. to the ' 
of Hungary, and Debate thereon 

Voui on ihe Supply 

Royal AITent given to reveral A&i. and Kmg'i Sperr 
A .State ol the National Debt for three Years ^^ 
Debate OD (be Corn BiU — ■ ■ ■ ^^ 

AblUafl of the faid Bi.l 

Ijotd-Tyrconnel'i Speech for better paving, (^ 
M*€M of WelltDinller, and the Debate tbeteoo 
Anoiher Account of thv Debate on the Soldteri 
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I SPEECHES 
AND 

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Houfe of Commons. 



DURING 



e Seventh Seflion of the Eighth 
Parliament ot Great Britain, 



November i8, 174O. 

IS Majefly came to the Houfe ofPeersin tbc Annoii, C«) 
ufual Sntr, and opcnrd the SeiCoa with a H- 174'^- 
moii gncioui Speech from the Throne, ac- U/^'^'S-/ 

3aainiing his Parliament, Thai Arong S(|oa- -^^Z™ , 
roos were got ready, and ordered to &'Isu«i;Il*' 




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upon Important Services, both in the Well- 
Indiei and Europe, with as much Expedition as the Nacuic 
of [hofe Services, attd the Manning of ihe Ships would ad- 
mit : That a vtiy corfiderable Body of Land-Forces tvas 
embarked, whiah is to be juincd by » g<'eat Kumber of his 
Sdbje^i railed in America. And all Thingi nrccifary for 
Iranfpordng the Troops from hence, and carrying on the 
dcfiKned Ejcpedition, mctc 3. long timt in Readineri, ard 



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4,€eo waited only for an Opportunity to purTue the imcnJed 



Voyige. 'I hat the [cvcral Incidents, which hnve h.-ip> 
pencd in the mean time, have had no Effcft upon bim, but 
10 CDnfirn) him in his Rel'o^utioos, and to dctermiite him 
to addStieoglh to bis Armamenis, Ac. That the Court of 
Spain baring already felt (oinc Effcils of oor Hercntmcnt, 
began to be icnfible, that they fliould be ro longer able, 
alone, to defend thentfeWei againlt the EHbrls of tlie Brililb 
Nation. And, if any other Power, ngreeable to foine late 
extntordinary Proceeding*, ftionid intcrpofc, and aitcmpt 
10 prcfcrtbe or limit the Operations ofW,ir againll his 
decUred Enemies, the Honour and Interell of im Crown 
ami KiDgdoms muft ci!l upon us to lofc no Time, in pm* 
ling curfelvei into (uch a Condition, as may enable us to 
repel any Inl'uiu, nod to frullrstc any J>lign5 formed 
againll ta, &c, J 'hat the IJcatli of the htc Emperor opens 
anew Scene in the Aff.iirs of Europe. And that it was im- 
polEblc to dctctTnine what Turn the Policy. Inicrctl, or 
Ambition of the feveral Courts may lead them to take in 
Ihii critical ConjunQure. I'hat it Otall be iiii Care to ob- 
ferve their Moiioo», and to adt.ere to the I*.ngagemcnti be 
U under, to maintain the Balance of Power, and the Liber- 
ties of Europe, &c. That he had ordcr^ Kflimates for 
the Service of the enfuing Year to be prepared, and laid 
befotc them. That iome Augmenations will be ncccllary, 
not only for carrying on the preiijnt War with Vigour, but 
alfo to pu: ourieirei in a Condition of being prepared for 
fuch Events, as may arlte in this uncenain Siiate of Europe, 
ttc. Thar the iicarcity of Com, which ha* happened 
many. Countries, had induced fcveral Powers to make rj 
tracrdinary Provifions, to obviate ilie ill Kffc^l^ of that Mir' 
fonuo«: That though in many Parts of this Kingdom, the 
"arvcil has proved more fayourable. yet common Prudence 
j^C^IS upun Us to provide agaidll the Approach oi luch a 
Caiamiiy. lie therefore eamellly recommended il to them, 
to confijer cf fome good Law, to prevent this gfowitig 
"ifchief. He aifurecum mended tolheiri.a Bill for tbfRiore 
^•eedy Mannmg the i-lcct in time of War, &c. 

Whereupon tRc Comntooi tefolvcd. I'hat an humble 
^^ddref^ be ptetented to hit Majeily, to congratulate hiqi on 
his fale Return to thefe liis regal DamioioD.". &.x. And lO 
affu.-e hi< Mijedy, that tht» Houfe wiU lland by an^ t'upport 
him, BgiinA. all Atiempu made in Violation of the Faith of 
TreatJei. &c. And a Coramittee was appoioted to draw op 
•■ Addreb ogrecable thereto, &c. 
Jiw») moved, humbly loaddrefs bii Majefiy, That be 

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would be pleafed to order an Account lo be Uid Wore 
(hero, in wKat Manner the Suiat granted latl SeiDoo for the 
Service of (he prcfcnc Year haii been diipoicd of. whidi 
afiei' l>cbaw paJfcd in the Negative! A>cs i$7. Now 

The igtlt. Refolvrd. tint tlm HonCe will teceive no Pe^ 
tiiioo for private Bill* after the aili fJay of Jamtttj- neit. 

Ordrrcd, Tbu (he iJoule be Called over on ibe fourth of 
Decetnbe/. 

The aoth. The Houfc went id a Body to addre^ hit 

Majeliy. 

Mr. Si^tker reported hit Ma'fcdy'i Aofwer to their Ad. 
drcfsof Vclfcrdpy. 

Read a fiili Tiine, a Bill Co probibic for a. limiied Tima 
the Exportation of Corn, and otbci Pravifions out ofGreic 
Biiuin, I.-elandt and hit Mijcdy's Plantationiia America 

A Motiun waa mndc, and the QueAion pat, that the fold 
Bill be printed, which paflol m the Ncgntivc. 

The »4. Received tlic Report of laQ Friday's Refblution. 
And refolvrd, Nemifif ffitrauHfeBtt, that a Supply be graaird 
to his MijcUy. 

Ordered ao Elliouue of the Ordinary of the Nnvy GiukU, 
G^iri'Ooi. L^nd Porcea, Sec. to be Uid beKire them. 

Ordered, That the Bill ta prohibit the tUponaiioo of 
CtKo. Sec. be rcid a fccond Time ut morrow t on a Divi- 
fion, Aye»84, Noci $8. 

Oidcred an Account how the Monies granted laftSeffion 
have been difpofcd of, to be laid before them. 

The i;th. llelblvcd, Ntmiat rvfrajiame. Thu the 
ThaDki o^ihis Haufe be given to V'lce-Adinirai VcinoiH 
for the Scriricei he ha» done to hit King and Councry ia 
the Welt IndiCi. 

KcfoIvcJ, Srmiiie ttatudntiiiw, Tb^t bii MajeH^ be -id^ 
drclli:d lo order an hmlargo to be Ibrcbuich hid upon all 
Ships Uderi uith Curn, Grain, Surch, Rice, Ilcef, Forte, 
and alb cr l'roViliuD$, lo be fx ported to foreign furts. 

lUftd n fccond Time the bill to prohibit the Exporutioa 
of Corn. ti-i.. '\jKi after DcbAtc commitud u tiaj iliia ]>&| 
fo'en-night. r 

Reaivcd a Petitiaa or Rickaid Parttidgc, Ajtnt fo: 

Penfylv^iniA, and »Uo Ageot for Ncw-Jcney. ag.init \\A 

Corn Billj which wai referred lo the laid Cotnm 

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■ Tiw }Atti»M nvai thtm rtjtfitd a$ trrfgu/ar i Aut efit 
vMrJt a» Adi'fp «f tbt/am Naturt «m/ frf/enttd U tit Mai 



C«0 The z6\h. Kecelved a Petition of tte Merehanti of Lou- 
^ doo, ag&inlt the Bill for prohibiting the Exforutioa of. 



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Corn, &c. referred toibc Committeer J 

Ordered, Tlut tbe proper Officer do l»y before ihr»™ 
Houfe a Litt of the Navy, m it ttood on the z9th of Stp- 
umber, i7;9- With an Account of how many h&ve bcca^ 
loR, decayed or rebuilt, and what remain. fl 

Alfo a Lift of the Navjr as ic Hood on the iSth loftanc. 

AUoan Account of what Ships have been employed from 
June 1 11, 1 739, 10 November 1 i\, 1 740. at Cruifert or Con- 
voy!, with ifacir Continuance thereon, and the Succets ihey 
have met with, dillinguilbing each Ship uken or nukeo 
from the Enemy. 

Kefolvcd to addreft his Majefly for Copies of all Appli- 
cations which have been made to the Admirjity. Sec. for 
Cruii'crs to be appointed lor PrcHe^ion of our Tiade. ^B 

Kefulvcd to addicfi his Majclly for an Acctnint of all^ 
Ordirrs ^iven fmce February ill, 1737. re^aiinp to the fie* 
ling out. and l^iiing of any of his Majefly'j Squadron.** 
Hitlithe Datescf rucbOrden, &c. J 

Ordered, An AcLOUn; vf all Orders given fur raifing andv 
embarking L'<tul-Fotccs and Marines for [he Loid Caih* 
taii'i. Expedition to America, Sx. to be laid before them. 

Rcfotvcd, Tfaathia Majelty be addreflid for Copies of all 
LiCitciJ rehiin^ loa Supply of Shipi, Men, Store;, Ammu- 
nition, *c. wiuien to, or received from Vice Admiral Ver- 
non, by cither of the Sccretartei of Scttc, Ott Con milCon- 
crs of the Admiraliy, or the Navy. As atfo for in Ac- 
coant of wh^it Stores, Ammuauton , Sk. were contradled (b. 
and ient to the Ijiid Admiral at J.titiak«. 

Rclolved, I hat his MajeDy be addieBcd for Copies 
all Leiteri that have liecn wiitten,or ReprcTeaiations madi 
to the Commi^ODcri of the Admiralty, relating lu Storcj, 
f rovitiofls. Sic. for the L'fe of the FJcei lately under the 
Command of Sir John Norrii. 

Ordered, That Copies of the monthly Retarns of Sea- 
men, with the Number of the S ck, whui died, or deretled, 
aod what cured fincc tbe lotfaof July, 1736. be laid before 
Ebrm. ^ 

Ordered, An Account to be laid before them, of what V 
Stores, Ammunition, ProviCDn;, &r. were Tent with, or 
Jiave been tent to Rear-Admiral Haddock, And alfo Co* 
piei of tU Ixiten^ as rebte to a Supply of Sbipr, Men, 
Srores, Sec. wiiiun to, or received from Rcar-Admixal Had- , 
dock. te. f 

TiM i;ti>. Rtf^lved, That hit Majefly be sddrciTed for' 

CopJci 



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Copies or an Piperi relatiog u» the opcoing of & Tn<!e Anno 14, Cco* 
thfo' RuflU to Pcffia, Set. ^ ii-Iilf' 

Rtceivcd the RctHjrc of Vefterday's Rcfolution on the *^-^^\^y^ 

Jupply. vh. Rclolved, That 40,000 Men be employed for ^^^S*"**" 

"cj.Servicc (or 1741. Ar.d ihat 4I. pcf Man per Month 

cillowcc] for Ruincaiaing them, locluding ilic Ordnance 

If Sei-Scfvice. Aqu agreed to the (arae. 

The z8ih. In a grind Ctiimnittee oa Way» and \fean«, ^"^jL*** 

:fol«ed, That 4s. m the Foufid be granted to h'n Majirfiy, ^-'^'^Tax. 

ipoD Landi, Tenctsenu, Hcrcdiiamcnu, Pcnjionf. 0&:ei» 

Ecifonal Ellatci in Englnndj Wales, and iheToua of 

lerwick upon Tweed, for the Service of the Vear 1741. 

Dfi. I . Agreed w ihe Report of the above RelottiUoo j 
and ordered in a Bill accordingly. 
]^m Rrceived (cveral Pcuiion& from the Agrnis of Amcrin^ 
^Hnd South-Carolina. againH the Corn-BiU. 
^V^ Read a Eill time the Land Tax Bill: aTier which Mr. 
^^phoniproo compbioed of a printed P^per te had icceired 
^^C the Door, which wai icai at fiiWoWt : 



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\\ \\ to be confidered, whether the InlcrrA of Con- 
'jflora for Piuviflons for the Public, w» not ibc Motive 
hich firll Itartcd the Notion of an Embargo upon ViAaat, 
od whether the fame Incrrell be not now a grand, tha* it- 
crciMotire of i» Continuance •. Theic C-inir^dors, hcmg 
vrt\ tetifibie, that the Dcwatvd Abroad, for Irifh and £n> 
ghfh Beef, trult |;reat'y enhance the Price, and that thrn 
wa» no way for cbciii to keep it down, hut by cnde.'Lvcitjriii^ 
10 confine thcfe Commoditict 10 iheir own Market. h.id Ad- 
drei* 10 effirtl their End in Part, by obtaining the limbargo 
io Ireland. whKh they have good Keafon co laOoar to have 
nctnucd iheie, .ind firiher extended: For thus they will 
time aUotutc MasLcij over a gicat Pan of the Land; 

holders 
• Tf / Hw^ mm tavt a vtry nriagj and ft rfrtfing Kuna ■ 
Irrf-r y /6ii Trar^uaian^ ly wjtting tin fn^r Oficerj to /i*v 
tf/itt t^em thr Contrail) m*it in tkt Ttan 1739 aiut I74O 
"} ibt yiSua/lini^ OJScif, Kt^tilffr lutth tht Pa^tts ami ApfU- 
ttifiii 'whuff ttlate (e tbh ji^*ir^ »t f^r at U ftnurm tit 
i& Frvxnjhm, tUl't^'crtd v mail tt tke ftii Cemmi^itut i 
r VidmaUtng, the LirJj '/ tbt JJmnaiij. and ^me ttLsr 
pj^'fi Widib, if f^irlj obia'iHtd, iviU tnahi* tit H*f/t t* 
td^i, iihttlrr a Car* and TtnJtrnrfi 19 /^« Caatrmefarj ha^t 
_«/ flainlj if.1t tht f.U and t'nt C»Mf( ('V.f-n!f',tr tvtaUt 
Trfttntti an ibrvuin tut } »/ all tbf [''■>*'* ' KVitb 

tifptH la Trade, alriadt tmttiavjlf txUKSti "j J, etii 

imv fr^tHfi fr tht <*i«/f NatrM. 




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Anno Ui Ceo holderi la England, as they have been for Tome time o 
II. i7*0' above half the l^nciholdcrs of IrcUnJ, who are oblig 
^^Y^W^ to fell at the Price they pJcafe lo give; the exported Pro- 
duce of that Counirj', in the C'llle-Tiade, being ocAr 
6oo,oool. per Aanuia, cjccluflve of any Commodity derived 
from Shwp, and the whole Value of the Export of that 
Kingdotn, not exceeding i.ooo.ooo). which are Fafts ex- 
tremely ceruin, and taken fiuiii the Books of the Cuftoms 
there upon a parliaratntary Irfpcition. 

U ii to be conMcred, whether any great Men were in- 
duced to favouc this Scheme from any private Advant-^get 
which they were (o receive from the Cuntnidors. in Coiw 
fidcraiion j}f i(i and it ough: to be uoderflotxl, ihiit this 
the faireli Opportunity for the gteateit Money- Jobb, tb. 
may ever oiler again lonny Man in Power. 

It ought to befuiher coflfidered, when [he Bill offered to 
Parliament for regulating chif Affair (hall be examined, 
whether the Hopes of cxttaordinary and partial Powers w 
be granted to the Crown by it, might not be a principal 
Keafon for infinuating the NeceSicy uf this Meiifutc. efpe 
cially at thli ConjuoAure, when anew PartiamcBtu to 
fbortly called. 

It Ihould be obferred, what IndallFy was afed in the pu 
lie Pipers, to prepare and prejudice the Mindt of the Peopl* 
in bvour of an Embargo, paiticutaiiy with relpciH to iii« 
Iriih Beef: And whether thi* doe» Dot Teem tn have pro. 
Ceeded rather from the Spirit <i{ private I nterct, than a Zeal 
4br the public Good, erpccially as the tatter End was ill 
snfwered, by alarming our Enemieswith the Apprcbcniioa 
of an approaching P/ohibiuon, aod could tend only m 
kaQen them in maUtog (heir Provifion before they w 
prcTcnted . 

it is to be cc»nftdcred, whitcan be the Reafoni or V'i' 
of a certain Gentleman in picfDng to do that by Afl 
Parliament, which bf the known Confliiuiioit tif the Kin 
dom may be done, and has been done by an aUowcd Prcn 
gailve. 

Jt is lobe confidercd, why Ireland it to be mentioned 
the Bill . linccrhc Prerogative has already had in thatCoui 
try a full EfteA Without a Bill: and whether the dving ill 
by 3D Englilh Liiv, being unocceflary, will not create D 
contents there, whkb bad betcci be avotdcJ, cfpecially | 
:hu Coojycflure. 

ft ii to be coni-dercd, why Ireland, which h&s the la 
fi!,7^ia Citarta and Common Law with t'nzjaQd, fhould 
lybjected co to ^nbargg by Pwo^ative, if that Embar 

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«« ilkgJ : tnd if It w«s not illfgal. why England w»i not Aniw 1 4, G». 
Hfabjvatd to it It the lame time. il 174U 

^V It is to be c'.nfiJered. why iliat Embirgo opoe hehnA V-/'V*V^ 
^Blvas Isid opnn the whole Trade, to the immeofe Dimaee of 
Huiat Country, notwithltzniJing the KchxntEOncr I'l in lame 
^EnfhnCFs ; And whether the doing it ici that way, did not 
^ftvidently t^nd to create (ervile Appliuifons, great tod cf 
^Time and Opportunities, grrat Dej-cndcnct upon Men in 

Power, and pofiibly great Cornipnon. And whether i( is 
Di an Abfurdity to fuppofe the Prerogitive lulficient to 
(trcifc a general iLmbargo tipun the whole Tnde, and 

mfufiiciccn 10 do i: upon a few Branchej only. 

It u to ti« cooCdcrcd, that ihf Embargo in IretancI wa^ laid 
^Bkl a ConjunClure above all otlten fatal ; the Rents of thar 
^Kloontry being chicA^ mide darirg the Shogliter-Searoaf 
^Brhich u in (be Monthi of OAobcr, Navembcr, and Oe> 
^^mber. 

It il to beconfidered, why the Embargo wss laid ifter ihc 

French and Spinifti Fleeii were bilcd ; actd if occeflary ai 

all, why not brfiire f 

Ikiiia be coofideml, whether it can be fappoled that the 
brovideat AdniiniflrjtioB of J'nnce and Spam would have 
hazirded llir Siucefi of fu grent a DeCgn. and the Lofi of 
K) great nn Arnufflcnt, to an F.rent which they Imew id be 
lb Tduch m our Power, at the Embargo on Jnfh Betf, 
y/UcfhfT therefore it Couid be reafooably fuppofeil, thatthra 
HhfrofuTC, which has brcn talked op as fo ii»pofUBI« conld 
bave taken any iiror.g Effeft. 
It it to ^-e confidenKl, whether any Nfjn cuti with any 
Appearance of Rcaroo (uggtd, that ihii Embargo could 
~»i»e hsd any betrer F-ffc^. than to cccifion lomc Diftrtft 
kmoog the Krct)ch and Sp^nfh Forcei, to oblige them to bo 
jntentrd with a more iptic and Icfi agrM.iLie I>ipr, cr 10 bff 
It fomc greatr Kircrrr m procure Provilton; vn^i whether 
loy Mxncan be lo lobclicTe. that we OuM rendef 

\%licm unlit for Atili.- rvite by tht; means. 

It iitobe cortUereti, wlieihrr if they arc Ihll fit for Ac- 

lion and Service, the Degree cf Oillret wc flnll create to 

inn ^vill be ol any Advantage to juttily fo extmordmary a 

Meafore ; and whrthcr, when >i 15 righily underflood by ihtf 

~iblic,th<y nn think it(iifiicici>itobabrce(hee.Y!nvagaAk 

|la>fi u will occaiion to frclonO aikl to uur i>Hn Colontes. ' 

It tt to be conMcred whftt tbii Lofi win be, whether ic 

I'UI notocctfioQ a total Sngnaiion ot Trade in (bme of on^ 

Coloniei: Whether ProvjGona exponrd from lrL-I.ind ire 

not aDoually worth 6oo,oool. and whriher tt be poffible 

tliti toy KcaKdy «d be applied to tho DitltcG of tint 

Nktien, 




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Apno 14, Geo Nation, occaConed by this Embargo, when half die Beef 

II 1740- ihcy export i$ of fo l^d a kind, ihac no People can confume 

^/"V^N^ it bai the French i and conleqaentiy that if England were 

ever fo willing to relieve IrcUnd, fiiecaiiDOC bu/ that Pro- 

Jtiito be conftdeted, how uneqaalljr this Blow mud fatt, 
and (hftl thii Lofs will lie in a manner wholly upon one 
fourth Put of IrcUnd, above three Fourths of the exported 
Beef. Sec. anfiogftom theProvincc of Munfter only. 

It is to be confidercd, what a deplorable Ruin mud at- 
tend the fourth Pirt of any Country, by a certain annual 
Lofa of at lead 300,000!. when the Rents of that whole 
Country amoun to but i,;'00,oool. 

It is to be confidercd. wbofc Lofs this in the End will be ; 
ird whether it will not be the Loft of Ergland : Since it it 
detnonllr&ble that F.rgbnd gets all the Balance of the TnuJe 
of Ireland, as appears from hence, th»t the current Speciei 
of Irebnd ii cetutnly not augmented for twenty Vean 
pall, tho* the Bjilanre of Trade is Icnown to be more thao 
400,0001. per Annum in her fevour. 

It it to be confidered. whether the Growth of Wool, and 
the Wooilen-Marufiifturci of Ireland, if they arc fo preju- 
dictpl to the Woollcn-Ttscie of England, as fome wooJd 
popularly (uggefl. will not be enlarged to the Prejudice of 
EiigtantI, by driving the Irifh out of a Trade, which now 
employt fo greata Portion of their Lind. 

It ii to be confidcred, t^hat was the Pra^ice of thi> 
Nation in all oitr former War», and upon wh^it Motives it 
was, that in tiic Reign of King Charles II. in 16^7, when 
Eoglaod wai at War with Holland, France i^d Deninark. 
at a Period when the Prejudices againll Treland firll bad 
Rife, and were noK violent ; it was refolved by the Coun- 
cil of F.rgUnd, that the Irifh fliould export their Beef and 
Proviftonn to the Enemy, in Purlaince of which Refolutioa 
a Proclamation from the Lord Lieutenant of that Kingdom 
was then iffut^ to that Purpole. 

It ii to be confidercd likcwifc. upon what Motives, in tlie 
War* of King William and Queen Anne with France, ihe 
fame Irdutgence was (hewn to Irelitod, and their Exporta- 
tion privately encouraged by the Government of England, 
aotwithliandiflgany general Embargoes laid by AQ, of Par- 
Uimeni. 

It is to be confidcred, whether the Dutch, the wifeH Na- 
tion in the World with rcfpe^ to Commerce, ever thought 
it advireable to refute to fupply their Eoeniin with any 
Ccmmodity whatever. 

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It Istobe coBfitlcrcd, ngw the Scarcity of Graft «ncj Hay Anno 14, Geo. 
h locxccfHrr.wh'it can be done with our CAttle if they are '[^740 
not CJtpoired; and whether it he better that ihcy flioa.'d (.>^V~SJ 
pcrUh ai Home, than be loM to our Kn<miei. <« 

It 11 10 be coRftdctcd, wliclher Money be noi the Sinew of 
War I and whether to deny ouriVives the Profit of a very 
[ftdnnugcout Trade be a nalural way to prove fucceriAit 
flgiJaJl our Encirie*. 

It h to be confidered, whether ooe of the Cabmilies of 
War ii not the Intcrrupiion of our Cooinncrce. 

Whether to render this greater thJo it mall ctceflarily 
' br, can dererve the Kncomiums which a certain Peifoa and 
tiis AdbcrcDU bellow upott this Mcsrurr. 

Whether one of the niolt valuable Circumflancct of Ad- 
tniral \'crnon') glorious Demolition of Porio Bcllo had not 

SB thought, by all koowirg Men, to be the Opening of 
that Coall to ourMerchanti, and the Meam thereby given 

(apply ibc SpaDiAi'America. with Comtnoditiet ol this- 
f-Coontry, 

Whether there is any Maxim fofolW, and fo incapible of 
bftin^ contravened with rcfpcA to Trade, ai thai it uught 
ncvrr lo be reftraired . 

Whether the eternal Confeauenceof Reftriflioii in Com- 
merce hai not been tbe Divemon of it lota a new Channel, 

Whether ilie Ketlriinc upon the Pjrparration of lron» 
laid by Sweden fotne Years ago, has been etrcr recovered bjr 

1 Sweden, and whether Spim wai not an immeofi: Gainer by 
it. 
Whether the Refiraint upon the Inlli Trade in Cattle, 
Imporrd by England, did not throw tbc Beef Trade into 
IreUn-J, and give it 10 that very Countiy, whtch wai impru- 
dently defigned to beexcloded from it 

Whether the Prohibition of the I'ifti to cirry on the 

Woollen Manufjfl;iic,did not throw tiie Woollen Trade ai 

^KvrcU vut of their Haods ai oarf, arid cftablifl) the lame in 
^Vv'I Parti of Europe. 

Whether any Folly be more exploded, if fitat and gene- 
^tal Experience can explode a Folly, tlnn the Suppofilion, 
^Rbat my Nation can excltnie the rett of the World from any 
^VltraBch of Commerce. 

Whether it can be fuppofcJ that Providence Ha* been fo 
^^evere apart any Ccontry. b> to put it in tbe Power of another 
^■•o ftarve ber Inhabitvtnts. 

^B It ii Rr be confidered, whether it ii pofflite 10 conceive, 
^H)tAt any Naiioo abouitJing in Weahh.can fuil tobefupplirJ 
^^ith Ncttflkriet for Moi»«y. 

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jnnoij.Gco. It is to be confidered, wbciber Denm&rk, Jutland, Hol- 
li. 1740. Aein, and other Places in (he Baltic, which now export 
C/''V>^ great Quantities of Live Cattle, may not lalt their Beef, and 
fuppty France and Spain with it; and whether they wiU'noc 
keep ihat'Crsde when they have once experieaced the Ad- 
vantage of it. 

It IS to be confidered, whether Hungary, Planden, And 
Fiaticc icfeif, may not upon Encouragemenc fupply a Part. 

it is 10 be confiiiered, whether the Foreflt of France and 
Germany may not fupply great Quantities of Pork 1 aod 
whether that Provifion will -not anfwer the End of Beef. 

It is to be coofidtred, whether Hollind may not liipply 
vad Qusncitrcs, particularly of Pork, fi-om Germaay, ky 
means of the navigable Rivers which flow from tlKilce 
ibro^ that Country. 

It is to be conJidered, what ZfkA the Lucre of tbis 
Branch of Trade may have apoa the Councila of cbofe 
Niicions which may gain it from us: And whether France 
may not acquire a dangerous Influence over Tome of oorbeft 
Allies by that Evem. 

It is to be confldcred, nay, it is to be known, ^hat tbere 
is a Method of halting and curing Cattle in the very hott^ 
Latitudes, and under the Line idclf, tho' the Seo-et ii as 
yet in few Hands ; and whether Neccflity and Money wUl 
not open (hut Secret to France ^nd Spain. 

It is to be conlidered, whether in all foch Cafes, many 
Places for Supply and Means of it may not be found, whkrii 
BOprefeni Forefightcan fuggcft. 

Whether a very hard Seafoti, and a Dearth of Grain 
Abroad, is not by eil thltking Men apprehended as a fatal 
Incident to England, tho' fheu notherlelf a prefent Sufferer 
by it, and mny be an immediaie Gainer by the ExporatioB 
of greater Quantities of Corn ; fince the Alarm it gives to 
foreign Nations, tends to put them upon Meaiures for en- 
larging their Tillage, and ^nding Means to fupply them- 
feli'cs at Home iijth Grain, which France has lately done, 
by founding a Company, snd giving great Advantages and 
Premiums for raifmg Kice in that Country. 

Whether therei'orc it may be thought advifeable to urge 
this Dillrcia in any kind ; and whether it is not adding an 
incentive to iheir i^ndeavours in this way. 

Whether from this juU Conlideiation, all Embargoes, or 
other Difliculties upon F.xportation, are not in the nature of 
the Thing JAJurious and abfurd. 

\\ hether it i; bcnenth a Man of Senfe, upon better Confi. 
' dcraiion, to rcjcfl Opinion?, however warmly he may have 

cfpoufed 



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erptiufeSthein, before ilie Stale of the QueftioD bad been Anno 14, Geo. 
tboroughly canvaffed. 'ij 14?' 

Whether, therefore, there nty not hf great Hope, rhat 
the A&. relating to the Embargo *ill never pafs. 

And if it (bould pafi, i . That it rmy relate to Corn onTy ; 
a Rcftraint upon which leems to be jufliiied fjr the prefent, 
by no other Rrafon but the great Want of it at Home, which 
our late ill Seafons threaten, 

2. That it (hould not extend either to Ireland, or the 
Plantations, who will be infillibly diftrelTeJ b^-yond 'Kxam- 
pie, and almolt to otter Ruin by it. 

3. That if it muft pafi, it ftiould be general as to every 
diftinft Species, to avoid Partiality, and Jncreafe of Minilts. 
rial Power. 

4,. That it (hould be in the Pbwer of the Crown to relieve 
it in any one Branch of Exportation, provided the Relief 
or the Reftrainc be general as to the particular Branch ; 
becaufe it may be necelTary to prevent the Exportation of 
Corn, and at the iade time fatal to hinder that of other 
Provtfions. 

5. That Care be tak^n to aMow the Export of Corn to 
Ireland, either from the Plumat^onn or £ng!aiid ; without 
which Ireland, which does not grow Corn enough for her 
Home Confiimption, and i« now in great Ditlrel's from the 
Lofs of [V)ia(oes by the Frofl, may greatly (nfftr by Pamint 1 
cfpecially if this Winter flioald be attended with more fevere 
Weather. 

Upon the whole, it is to be hoped that Men ia Power, It 
they fhould be convinced, by thele Confideraiions, that they 
hnvenotdeferved the Applaufewhich has been rafhiy given 
to this Meafure, and that it is really de(tri:£tive and dange- 
rous, will be generous enough to rcftgn their Pretenfions to 
this Glory, rather than t.icriiice the Trade and fntereft of 
thefe Dominions, by mainraining their firft Opinion. 
Jf. S. It isaftually now known, that the French have con- 
traAed already for an annual S-ippIy of 6000 Tons, or 
60,000 Birrels of Beef (riim Jutland, at the Rate cf 200, 
Weight per Barrel, which is within 20,000 Barrets of 
the greateft Qaantity ever taken by them from Ireland 
in Times of Peace. So that in all Probability an irreco- 
verable Blow isah-eady given to that Branch of Trade j 
and they have aduaUy contraAed with Holland for a far- 
ther Quantity. 
Certain Advices are received, that the French Fleets are 
adually arrived in America ; which may ferve fufficiently 
to evince, that Ibme Perfons have boalled too much of 
their Sagacity in impofing the Embargo: The great, and 
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Annoi4,Gco. Inittd only pliufib'e Pretence for it, ht'tng lo prevent 
11.1-40. ,h,ir N;.»igation ihithtr at thi& critical Conjuniime, 

whtcb it wa& confidently affirmed it would cffed. 
Tbi) wa» fureiold at a Time when the Prtjudicn, in hwaar 
of »a Embargo, were too Arong to admit Credit to thac 
Suggeftirn. ■ It is to be wifticd, thai tlic fiirthcr Prophecy 
cootiincd in this Paper may not likcwiTe be aioft fuxUy 
Bccompltftied. 

Mr. ThompfoB. 

Sir. 

* The Crime cf exafprrating the People againll tleir 
riia^ Governon, of tailiDg DircoQCent, and exciting Murmurs to 

a Time uf general Danger, and of attempting lu rcprefcnc 
Wife and falupry Mcafurc;, which tiave received the Ap* 
probation of the whole LegiiUture. ai mean Artiitcet. coti- 
itivcd only to i&ife the FoiiunM of fome Favourites of (he 
Minillcr, and aggrandize tiie Officers of S(a:e by the Mllfr- 
rics of the People. i» a Crime too euormoas to require or 
admit any Ageravatioo Trom Rhecoiic, and ioodaogerou& ta 
bopT f(!T anyExcule fVom Candour and Lenity. 

■ 111 rtod or hear thia Paper is fufficicni for a Tull Con- 
vi&iotiof in pEmiciousTcadcRcy, and cf the Malice of ic« 
Authoi j a Charge not lixed upon parllcuUr £x|>rcfIioDa 
capable of aooubtful Meaning, and wnich Heat and Inad- 
vertency might ofutUy have produced, butfupportcd by the 
general Dctign of the whole Paper, and the continued Te* 
por of the Argument, which is evidently intended to Qiew 
that an Aft of Govcrnn:cn(, whichcannot but appiaroecef- 
fary and fcafonable in the prefeni Sutcof our Afnira, aq 
Ad r*iificd by' the Concurrence of all the Pouers of the 
Legi.1dtuTc, t5 Dotlung tut a Scheme of Avarice to grow 
tich ly pppreHion. 

* Nor ia this (randalous Libel written with more Confi. 
denccand Infolence ll<an it is dirperfcd. Not conten;. Sir, 
nith viinfyingcbc Frcceedingt of the State, ibc t\uthor has 
iitduflrioufly pubiillirJ hi.* Calumny at our Dour; the Tune 
has been when Oefamaiion (kulkcd in Scctet, and Caluiunict 
agairtl (he Gov<rfir.c-t »v«re dtfpcrfcd by VVhifpctt or 
privat«>Communi&.t]un i but this Writer adds Int'ulu to bts 
Injuries, atul at oitce n'proachc! and defies us. 

* J beg leave to move thcrclore, that the Houfe do cea- 
furt this Paper as " a malicious and fcandaloos Libe), highly 
and iojurioufly tcf^cAing upon a jull and wife AA of hit 
X.'r.ji:lly's GovrriinicDi, and alfo upon the Proceedings of 
puCA lecture: of ParliamiEit j u:d tcndirgto create Jea!oi;itei 




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Mindiof ihe People. I allbmove, th« rhe Auth"orAnnoN,G» 
'inajr be ordered totiCcod, to be cxaffliocd ic out B«r." Ir-yr^^ 

[This wai uniRimoolly n^eej to by the HDufc. The 
)oor-keepcr wai called in. ind ijeing (hewn the Paper, v.-at 
iflccd rrom whom he received it? Who ftofwered, ihat he 
rlicTcd the Pcrfon, who detiirrred il lo bim, wnii then de- 
lined in one of the Comtnittec Rooms; upon which hetvai 
irdereJ to look for, and (etch him [9 the Bar. Mr. Sandyt 
iking notice, that the Petfoa wai itready in Cuilodjr, Ijaid, 
ut he fhould be glad to know by what Authority. It wa* 
jt tcaronable topuoifli firti, and judgeafterwardi. 
Upon which Sir William Yonge replied, • That he had 
cauTrd him to be detained, in order to know the Pleafure of 
\e Houfe i and that he ihoiighi it his Duty to feeurc fo 
CDormoasao OITcDd^r fromclci^piDg * 

Soon after the Doorkeeper brought the Man in, when be 

dcclaTcd, upon Kxamination. bis Name, and bis PtofcBiOnf 

^_whicb was that of x Scrivener, and owned, with great Open- 

^^hefa, that he was ibc Auihor of the Paper. He was then 

^Mflccd. who wa* the Printer, artd anfwerrd, thit he printed 

^■it himrd/. Which be explained afrrrwardi, by fayiog. that 

^'ftthehad carried it to ihc Primer':, he might be Uid. in the 

general deception of the Term, »» applied to an Authoft 

to be the Printer ; he then dtkovered the Piintcr, and was 

iQced, wberewaithe ongiaal Xfaoufcripc, which be faid he 

vbid delirayed. as he did any other ureirls Paper. 

(t having been obferred by lome of the Members, chat 

Il was printed in one of the Daily Pxpcrt, he was aflced, 

rbo carried it thither ? And anfwercd, thai he carried it 

ktmrdf. It Was then dem^nJed, what he g>ive for having 

[Itinferied, ntid he anlwcred. that he giive nothing. 

After many Quel\ioQS, XIr. H. Archer dclired ihai be 

ight be a&ed, Whether 00 the Friday before he was rxit 

jin the Gailery^ At which romc of the Mctnbcri eipreflod 

aeir Dintpprobation, and the Man being ordered to with- 

Iraw, the fo'lowisg Debate eafued upon the Ptoptielyof 

'liQatflion.] 

Simoel Saodyi. Efqi 
Si.. 

• TTiof* who are entrufled by their Coontry with tLe£lii. S«njj^. 
^Authority of making Laws, DOghi undouiUcdl^ tu abfeive ^-^11 
fibeni with the utmoft Circutnipcilion. Ut\ ihcy.ftiould defeat 
llhcjr awQ Endeavour)', aoJ invalid^iic by ihsit Example 
their own Dccrcci. 

• There 



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Anno i4.Cto. * There it no Put, Sir, or our Civil CotfikutioA mart 
ii-iJ>Z facred, none 'bit hsi Ijcen more revered by ihoft that hava 

y^y^rX-^ mmpifd upon other Forms of jiuiice. nnd wantoned ia 
Oppreffon without Rellninc. th^D that Privilege by which 
every Brtctm is exrtnpted from the N«;effiiy of accusing 
himtelf, md by which he is enlitled lo refule an AoTwer to 
any Queftion which nuy be afti. i, wi:h a View id draw 
firooi him a CooTclTton of an < tiencc, wbich cooiot be 
proftfd. 

• Wheth«rcbisgreat PriiMcgp, Sir, iinoi viol8t«d-; ivho* 
tfaer (ti: analicoablc Riv'.t]; of a ftes Sut>je6 i: not inffiogflc). 
by ihc (>ieUioo pur tu ihe Peri'gn at our Bjt, the Houfe 
Riut) decide. The funifhmeni to which t'tirujtrri ut J'ub- 
jeQ by the Orders of thii Houfc, prcv«4 thar hu Prefenco 
iQlheiloure i&cor.Ii<Jctcd xc a Cr:iiie, -jI Hlivh.a^we hire 
BO Proof of it, a C'onfrflion ought not to be cxiorrcU by an 
atirui sod infidions Qiielbon. of wkich hv may col diicover 
thelotoDlion. orthc Corf'queiicc. Such Trcitmeni, Sir, ia 
rather to be cxptdfd by Si.tires in the (o^uilitiua of -^p^B. 
than I Briton at the Bar of thi* Houfr; a Huulc iDili:utcd 
to pceferve Liberty, and to rcilrain loju&iiie aod Upprc^ua. 

Mr. Campbell. 

Sir. 

[Vr. Canpbcll. ' | casno: bnr concur with the Opinion of tho Hoaours- 
ble Genclemao, that io requiring an Anfwcr tottii* Question 
wc (hell cxpofe a MsB to a Puniftinient agiintt whom wo 
have (M EvhteiMX but what is extorted from himleif i and 
CCoft<)ucntly no Koowtnlge of hii Crime upon which m-c can 
praouJ lo taAid Cenfures or Pcoaldc;;, w.thouc clie itiini* 
frft Infiattion oiour Coaftiiution. 

' It cannot be imagitred. Sir. ihnt he iotendi to (0Pfe(« hitn- 
felf guilty ol a Ciime of which no Proof hai been brought, 
or that he wiil vai'inrftrily fubjeci himfelf to Punilhnicnts. 
It laufl therefore follow, that he is ioirapped in liii txami- 
n^itioti by an Artifice, which, 1 hope. wiU oevcr fird anjr 
Cootttenance in thii Kou£l' 

Mr. Winoiogtoo. 

Si a, 

>tr Win- ■ It is kq: impofiible that the Hoooaratle Gcrt>c)iCTi 

pinittm. having not lately look'd imo the Orders of the Houre, may 

mitUkc ihe Tendency of the Qucflton, 1 therefore mo«, 

that the Otdtr may be read.' 




[ 1h^Qti-'f bfrn^ rtaJ ty the Cftri, hi fttat4*i'\ 



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< U ii evident, Sir, tliat b/ ibe OnlcT now rud. theSi;r Armoi^.OM, 
MAW at Ami*, atTcndinp '■■n ihis Home, msy uk^ into Cuf- ^* '74"* 
Jy all Strjngcr* thi^Di.U be found in the Houfcor (i«llc- ^yV"^J 
white wcKteafleniblcil ; «l>d that thii Oi^er ii not alw-ivi 
It in Pr.i^icr. mult be oKrituicH ra the Lnityof thcHoinc. 
tut (ku thit OhkroitrnditC" paft Offirnces, au'l (jbiefls •oy 
m to Impfifonroeui Tor laving been prefcnt in (omcryrurtf 
IV, canntx be conceived. Fof bow f^r mny fucti k Rctro* 
Ke cxundti ? Or at what Time, iftxr luvtiig intmdod 
Ko the Houfr. cati UTiy Kt«r> preramc to conddcr bimfolf » 
rxempi itom ilir Danger of tmprifonmeni ? 

Our Order. Sir. only decreei prefcnl PuoiflimeBt for 

ncfrni OffffBCc*. j«d diereforc. the Queifion nftcd by the 

ionourable Gcin:cmao m»y be titfilted on without Scruple. 

Ind anfwercd »v;thoiK Har-ird. Let then the IJoDOunble 

icDilemcn refcive iheir Uudsble Zeal for our Contlimtion 

[till it OiiU be inviJcc by tnorc imporunt OccaGoat.' 

SiAiuel Sinclyi, Efqi 
Si.. 

' Whjt Viflory the t-fonotinibTe Gentleman imiigines g^^ SiOilfi 
limfcU u> have gftincd, or wkeoee proceed* all his Wtwon- Ei<jt 
rC ■ r rsoitftiioit, I am notabkio (Jiicnver. Tiie Qudlton 
Id to the iDtsrpretAiicia ofnnc of our own Or^en, 
:- - . A-rclorc Ducofthe high«J( Iinponincei tior can hi* 
iuCficfiln fouivlalA Ocbjic eotiile Jiim to great Appliufc 
rum other;, or produee in x PerltM of hi» Abtlitiet, *ny 
inctnninon Ssti*fiit:tioD lo himfelf. 

Que whnie wf may be the Pieafare of iht Viflory, it mufl 
|C lead be gkioeii bcfl-te ic cin Ik ctlebratrd t ttnd it 15 br no 
iluns evident that he has yet any Keifon tu nn'ure himfelf 
if Con(]uelt. 

His Interpretation. Sir, of the Order, which he hai Co 
inhdcnlly hiii Itcfure the Hou'ir, tcrm» to mc to have no 
[^oaodation in ReJfon or JuOicc : for if it be an Offence 
Igtififl the nonfr to(-e frfferr .ti mir Vcnfuhitionr.and that 
J&ncc be ju;i Man ht exempt 

la jii)( L'c'.. Orwhatmnket 

|lhe DiOvicncc between lhj& Crime and any oihcr. that this 
iloncBuft be iinmcdiatr!)' pumfhevi, or unmcdiaFely nblice- 
asd tbit a tuiky I'll^ln is C(^uiv.ilcnc to Innocrircct 
It ij farety. Sir, more rational to brlin'e. i)iai the l]cu& 
ay punift any Bn;)cb oi its Orders at a dilianr Time 1 thst 
(foar Ccnfarc ftoncec'udrd, h may be ?ftfr>mnis enforced 1 
ind, therc:(Dre, ihMi the QueRion pot to the Prrfon at the 
~ tr ougbi not tQ bi alLcd, btcaulc it cannot f&lciy b« an- 
fiveretl.' 

Winian 




Wil'. Pulw- 



Sir Wmi«m 



Sr Robert 



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Willum rutteney. Efq; 
Si It, 

* I cannot but conceive that our OrdCT may extend lu 
Inflacnce bcrond tlie pretent Moitient. aixJ tba( Intru6ooi 
ntB)' be pmu(hed by the Houreoo another Day than thil OP 
which tiiey were commiiinl. 

• I am (b hr. Sir. frcm being of Opinion, thai to make 
ihc Execution of this Order valid, the Houfemofl fit without 
Jniermptioii fiom [he Ttmr of the OSence to thai of the 
PoniQiinent . that if ihe Gentlemen in the Gallery v/efe to 
he taken into Cullody. 1 (hoaM advifc cbe Serjeant to WMt ti) I 
the Houfe (hould braak up, and fcize (hem as they fliould 
come oct.' 

Sr. William Yonge. 

St a. 

* If any fuch Punifliment were now intended, I Aioold — 
vife the Gentlemen in the Gallcrj- to rcitrr, indceiJ. but not 
10 hide tnemiclvn like Felons or Men profcnbed by Pro- 
clamation! for ai the Power of fcizirg any Man in the 
l^oufc is I'ufficirnt to I'ccurc us from Intrufiun. there is no 
Reat^on to extend it farther ; and Peraliics arc not without 
Reafon to be inHi^lcft, nnther h;i» (he floule rver coveted 
the Power of Op piclCng i and what file is unneceOary Pa- 
sifhtDCnt i 

' If, therefore, an Intruder 1* not feized in the A&. of la- 
trufion, he cinnot leg^ally be imprironcd tor tc, And any of 
the 3:rangeri who now hear this Debate, may retire to a 
very fmail DiUance from the HouTe, and fet the Serjeant of 
Arms at Defiance.* 

Sir Robert Wftlpole. 
S I a, 

• Whether the Quefilon be proper or not, it feemi very 
unneccflaiy to dcbtte 1 becaufe, however it be anrwexcd, it 
cannot be of great Imponance; the Mnn h>i already 
confclTcd hlmfctf the Author of the Libel, and may, there- 
fore, be puoifhed without f.ither Examination. 

' That he is the real Author, Sir, I am not indeed con- 
vinced by hit Affertton. with whatever Confidence it vu 
made; for fo tar as hi» Appcitancc enables me to judge of 
hii Education and Sphere of L*ki it iinot probable that he 
fhoutd be much verfed in political Enquttie*, or that he 
fhould crgigc in the DtfcuQion of QucHioos like this. 

' I'bcif appeari, .^Jr, in the Taper befjtc us. a more 
txKi^iive Knowledge of fad), & more accurate Attention to 

Cumiucrce, 




» 
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CommfrM.moTeinfol R<sfooing.ind« raor? elevated Stilr, Annoi^.Gi 
tbui uii rcahnahV u> c»pc<t from Ihit M»fi, whoni. with- **■ ''^T*- 
outpicimdiag to ciixumicnbc tiie Limtis «f hh Ltmory, 
or tft« Compfiof his Kn<nvloiigc. I am, fcr my Part, in- 
clio'd to look upOQ ti »Q Agent o tome other PerfoD of 
bJgher SciUon, unJ gmicr Accompliftunciiu. 

' Itit natur.cfiininan. Sir, furGeollrmen toexerciie tbeir 
j^biliiiei and empUty their Pcm upon political Qtulltoni, ttnd 
When ihcy Iuyc pr\rJuce<l any Thing, whtch thni C'omplai- 
fince fi>r ihemfelvei equally- hindcrt them from awning 2cd 
fuppixlHng, I hey arc knan'niupro«.utc fomc Per Ton of interior 
ftjinic to lake upin hira m ptiblic the Character of the 4u- 
■thor, and toIUnd the Danger uf the Piufo^cution, coflt<niins 
ibemrelvei with the Appltufe at>d A^m'uMioo oilhth choien 
i^nends. whom they trull wttti the inipcnaoi Secret, and 
%vith wb»m tbey In awl laugh at the Coftje^tutcs i>f toe Public 
«ai) tlte Ignorance offhc Miniliry. 

' 'I'hit, Sir, ii a frct]ucnt Pii^icr, not odIj with thofe 
who have tto other Employment, hut at I hive ruBki^ni 
Reafoni tobelte^'e, uoorg fomcOcxdemcn, whii h;ivc Seats 
IB tbii Houlc, Gentlemen whole A^iluici and Knowledge 
qualify ihem toCerve the Public in Cbiisflen much fupa< 
nor to that of lampooncn ol iht Govcinmrai/ 

William PultciMy, Zf^t 
S( t. 

* Whether the Man who confcflcd hlrafelf the Author Mr. PulKiur. 
of the Paper hl^acvuk'J hiBtlcIf of whit he did not commit, 

or ha^ ingcnuoufly and openly difctjvcm! the 7'ru(h. it i^ be- 
yood my Peneiratica abrolutcly to decide : the I'tankiiers 
Bud UocoiKetn with which he made the declaration, give it 
at trail the Appearance ot Truth, nor do I ^ifcoverany Rcdfcn 
ior doubcing hu Sincerity. U there any Improb-'bi^ity in 
the Natuie of the Fid tbai ftiould incline ni to futpcQ bii 
Veracity f I> their any apparent AdnntBge to br gainrd 
by affinning a ia'Ce CbHta£litr r Neither cf thole CiTnini- 
fHncct can be produced a]>ain0 hitn ; and aa AiTcrtion ii to be 
adinitud fot its own Sake, wheo there ii DOthiog to lavaH- 
daie it. 

• Bat the honourable Gentleman, Sir, appeari to have a 
itery part^uhr Reafoa for bn Doubii i j Reaico which will, 
1 hope, ^>avc no '-Veight with any but hitnfeU. By denying 
the Faper to ihii \Uo. he givci rcum for Conjcftutc ard 
^alpic'omo T*"f.t fjt and wiilc, and wanton with whattvcr 
Chinficra he (h4il thmk proper Subjccli for Lit Aniufcmcoc. 
An Author it now te be fought, aMi many iltvcitirig Aigu- 

Voi.. VU, mcuia 







'( Roliert 



( »8 ) 

T4,Ceo tnnti may be brought by the dultefl Enquirer for Aitng St' 
uputi one Man, or dctiying it to anoifaer. 

* I'fae honourable Gentleman, Sir, has given us a bold 
Specimen of ibii Kiod of \Vj{, by iafioaating ihat it i» ibe 
Produflion of (a me one of tht \icmhrrs of thit Houfe i a 
ConjcAure ot which 1 am noi able to Bnd ibe FuundAcian, 
ind therefore imagine, ibat RaiDrry rather than Argument 
wuiatended. But let the hononrabic Grntlemao recoIkA, 
tbscibe chief Excellence oIKuillcry it Politeaci't. to which 
he tiM fwcly pttd hiilc Regard, in Aippoling thai what hns 
been unncimoudy condemneil » a Libel, has one of thofe 
Wboccnfured it for its Auth&r. 

* If lam particularly hioicd ai in thti fagicioai CoqJco 
lure, 1 lake (iiii Opportunity of declaring that I am equally 
ignorant of the whole Aifair with any other Gentlemiin in 
Cliik Houfc ; that I never (aw the Paper, til! it wai delivered 
to me at ihe Door, nor the Authoe till he appeared at ibe 
Kar. Haviog tbut cleared myleif from this Arperfion, I 
declare it as try Opinion, that every Getilleman in the Hotife 
can (afcly puige hitnfclf in the (ame Manner: for 1 cannot 
conceive, thai any of tbeoi can have ivritien a Libel like 
thii. Tbete arc* indeed, loine Pafiages which would not 
dtfgrace the greatelt Abilities, and fome Maxinu tme in 
thetnfelvct, though prrhapi filhcioufly nppttcd, and ai leaft 
rucban Appearaocc of Kcafooiitg and Knowledge.ai fettthe 
Writer far above the Level of the conrtrnptible Scriblerj of 
MiaiJlerial Viodicaitoa* : A Herd of Wretches, whom net< 
thcr Information cao enlighten, nor Affluence elevate; low 
Drudgct of Scufrilicy, wtioA; Scandal is hannldj far Wani 
of Wit, and whofe Oppoiition it ooly troublclORie from the 
Pertinacioufncfs of ^cuptdity. 

* Why iuch immenle Soms are diftributcd amongft thefe 
Rcptilci, it ik fcarcc poffible hot to enquire ; for ii cannot be 
imagined that thole who pay them cxpcflany S-Jppori from 
their Abilities. ]f their Patrons wou'd read their Wricingi, 
Uwir Saliriei would quickly be withdrawn i for a Few Pagea 
would convioce ihem, that they can neiti)er attack nor de- 
fend, neither raiieany Main's Rirputatioa by itieir Paoegyrtc, 
aor deilroy it by their DcUaiauon.* 

Sir Robert Walpole. 

Sir. 
' I hope it ii not expe^ed. tha< the (Icat with which one 
CUlJ of Our political Wiiteri iuve been aitackeJ by the 
hubourabte GentlctnaD, Jhould engage rae to nodcriake their 
lArfcncewiih the fame Earnrllncli. J have neither Jnicreft 
enough in the Quctlion ce amkcn my Paflioof, oo« Cuiioftty 







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or LeiAtr* fufficient for fuch an ExamiDatioD orthe Wtitingi Anno i4.0«o. 
' 00 cich S"d*. «> j» KfCcflirj', belorr the Suprriority of toy 
Author sbove his Bwhrencan bf juftly afFcrtcd. 

' It is DO Pirt, Sir, of my Employment or Amufemeiw, 

to rOOiparc tiicir Arguments, or to baliince iltcir Abilities ) 

'fiordal often rtad thr Papers of either P.iity, except whra 

|-I en inlorilKd by (bene iKbi hkve tnme Inclination to fucb 

^rutliei than myklf. tiut tbcy hm rii«aby fomc Accident 

[ltbavetbe]tt:ommDn txvel. 

Yet, fliH ] may not »pp<ar entirely to defert tbe Quef. 
ion, 1 cannot forbnr to fay. that I have never from zhett 
iccidental Infpeflioni (Mf their Performanccf, discovered any 
iftcafuo 10 exalt ibe Autbori who write agoinEl the Admioi* 
Itation, (Oil higher Dcgter ofKcpuuiion than their OppO' 
ents. 'I'hM»n/of ibem Oefrive loui Applaufei, I cinnot 
lerc, and am afraid ttijt ill, which deUtvcs to be prcferv'd 
I the Writing* oo either Side, may be coniraAed to a very 
ew VolDtncs, 

The Writers for the Oppofitlon appnr to me to be Do- 
ling more ihaa the Echon of their rrcdfceiTon, or what 
flitl [DOiC iJefptcabte, of thcmfclvc^, and to bavc piodocwl 
tbtrv in (lie lall {ereo Yuji, vvbit^L bid uui been (aid (even 
fern before. 

I may, perhaps be ihouehtby fome Gentleman of each 
'bft.to fpcjk contetDpluoulfy of (heir Advocates, nor ftull 
think tny own O(.<tnio(i hU jut) for fuch a Ccnruie i for tbe 
lepuciiiun of controve/lial VVriiers anles, generally from 
nc PrcpolfcfTion of their Readers ia favour of the Opinioni 
fhich they eodeavour to defend- Men cifily admit the 
rocce of 40 Argument which icode tofupport NottonB,t)u( 
:ii their IniercU to diffjte. and rcidtly £nd Wit and Spirit 
laSatirepoinCeUaiCharj^eri which they drfire lodrprert. 
It to (be oppoiitvPany, ar>devcn to ihemrdvci, when their 
Paffioni have fuffidrd, and their Interell ii dlitlnttctt frorn the 
Jtiettion, thofe Arguments appear only loud Aderticni, or 
>|>iy Suphiftry ; and that Wtf. which was clamourouUy 
itfcd, ditcovcn iiiclf to be only I mpudcnce or low Conceits i 
le Sjtiritcvipontcs, atul the Mjligniiy only reroaini. 

If'we coofider, Sir, what OppoGtioa of Clunfler ii 

IKcITiry to conftitute a political V^ riter, it will not be noil' 

'ircd, that fa few excel in that Undertaking. He that 

rill write well in Politici. mull at the fame Time have a 

>tnplete Knowledge of the Qurl^iun, and 1'ime lodigeR his 

llioughei into Meiliod, sod poliOi bit Stile into Klegaiicci 

rhich it little left than 10 fay. He taaH be at once a Man of 

''Bufinefi, and a Man of Leifuic : forpoliucat Traoladtooa 

are out cafily underftuod, but by ihoie wboarc esgag«d ia 



Arn(»u,Geot>i«m.ind tlur Artof Wriung isnotaUaioablt wuho« lon^ 



11 n*p 




yCr-Howe. 



PrafUce, ac^J k^fcottry A*ppl(ca*ion. 

• Thin it h-ipiJiriii that po'itiul Writings are gencralljr 
defcAive. Knr thc> are t^rawn up hy Men unacquainted 
wiili public Bufiocto, ind wtio om ttictctore unljr ainufs 
their KruJcn witb bilaciout Gecitah, fpccioas SopKiitnes, 
oi ao AgreeabI St'Ir s or ihcy aie the htiiy ritxlu^ions of 
bafy Neg"t»lor), who, itio'thcycsonoc but excel the other 
Claitr.f A'tilcr* in ihai which is of tneil Importance, the 
Ki>owlnl&e o) ihor SjbjtA arc yet rarely at leifurc todif- 

S,y ibii Knont-'tlgc to Advantage, or add Grace toSoli- 
ity. 

• Wriura of the latter fort appear but &ldam, and moS 
of our political Paptn arc the AmufcDieots of Lrirure, or 
the Kitpetliennof Want. 

• Whether the Paper, now before ui, U the Produce of 
Eafc. or cf NccefGi}', I fliill t\oi determine ; I have alteaijy 
offiiti my Opinion, thnt the Man who claims it. is not ibc 
Author, nor tio I Jilcovcr any Rcafon for changing oiy Sen* 
timent: I'he QucJfinn it % Q^irllion merely of Ctirjcclure, 
Ance nciilivr I, nnr (In Hoi)c>iublc Genilcmao attempt la 
offer any dcmonflraiv^ Proofs of our Opinion. If he has 
any to pioJiKC in fdvaarof hi! own NotioQs, let him lay 
ibcm before jcu, Luc let bim aiwayi forbear to impute to 
me Alimioni ts'ich 1 iierer uttered, and beware ot repte. 
fen-!: Qtnc Ti dcciatirg 'hat I believe ihii Paper the Coai'- 
pofitKJB of feme Meaixr; of tbt» Houfc' 

[// vat thai JttattJ, <whtthtr tkit Ofime J^Mtli hr panlfiti 
iy liv jf^livrih ff tht Hemft, or refrrrrd la tht Cegn.KXKe* 
rf fHU cf the Ceuftr if H-rHmiaftr Hall, e« 'tvbiib 0(i»' 
fim Mr. Hvt^t f^oh m /sfUtvi] 

Sir. 

* It la the Duty of every Pitt of the LcgiA'tuic, qoi 
only to prefrrve the whole Sylteni of our Goverumnt 
analurred and aniini'^t'ed, I>ut to atlcnd panicQlarly to ih« 
Support of ihcir own I'rivilegci. Privilege} not confiu^rcd 
upon them by cm ' ricellsr}. but for wife rurpores. 

' It i) thePrivi''-gc <-f this Iluuic that we, and we only, 
arc the Judges of our own Rights, and we only, therefore, 
can affign the proper Pur.ifhaicat w%a they Ihall be p[«> 
ftimpiaouQy jr.vadcd. 

* If we remit this OfTcodcr, who ba aitenipicd to de- 
bafc the Houfc in the Opinion ot the Nation, to any iucf. 
rtor Court, we nliow that Court co determine by tfie Pu- 
nilboicpt that ihail be iiiflidcd, the Impoituce of ihii 

A6ciDbIyr 



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AiTcmbly, «nd the Valoe of the coUcaive CharaCltr of thii Anrto 14, Getn 
Houie. "J^J*- 

' It theirfofe ctmcern* bj, in rt^ ard lo our own Dig- ^-^irNi^ 
»ity, aikdio the PrivJIegn of our SuccrfTots, ttiitt we reuin 

e Cogniunce of this Crime in our own Hands, in which 

ii placed by ^rpctuil Prcfcriptioa uid the nature of our 

onditotioD.' 

Ordered, That William Coolcy hiring conftffed liimleir 
ibe Author and fub iflirr cf a malicious and fcmdaloiia 
tfibel, iniitled, CaJidiraittBJ wp^n thi Embargo n Prwffitm 
' I'lffual, be tor tii» (md O&nce committed to NewgatE. 

Sir William Vonge. 

S t R| 

* J loi picitcd with fiaJirg tliat the Malice «nd tnile .. wmjim 
Dcy of tfits Libel. h» milnl in the Houfe ■ jail Kefent- Vongc, 
CDt. and that the Wrrtcb, who with a Confolence lo Krady, 
d (uch ApjwaraDcc of SitiifaAion in hif CouHicttanc^ 
nfclTei, or lailicr ptodaimi bimfelf ihc Author, it irtnted 
be driervci. But let u» not tergft that ttie Ume Degree 

t Guilt siwayi requirei the fAme Punjlhrnenf, and. that 
ben ifae Author of Scandal ii in Prifon, the Ptinicr and 
'fopAgaiorcf it DUglil out to be ai Labcrty. 

* The Prinrer of the Daily News is furely the propef 
)j(A of your indignation, who infcrted ihii Libel id hb 

'apcr, wiibout the KoDdnef) of an Author, and wiiboul the 

cmpiJUofl v( a Bribe i a Bribe, by the Help of which it 

1 afiul to circulate Scurrility To thi» Man the Ex pence 

ir Labour of afpcrfing the Government was rtcompenfcd 

J Cbe Pleafarc, and be could not prevail on bimfcif to emit 

ijr Opportunity of incenfing the People, and cxpoling at 

re the whole Legillature to Cenfctc and Contempt. 

• Tbot'e. thertfof c, that have concuried in the ImprifoA' 
est of the AuihoT, will doubllefi join with me in requir- 

the Attendance of hit officious Accomplice, and I cannot 
Kbear exp/efling my Hopea, that be will not swet with 
indcr Treatmenc 

• It it lar (ram being the £1(1 CSence of hit licenttoul 
refi ( and the Lenity of the Govcrntncnt. by which he 

liai been fo long fptred, bat liad 00 other EficA upon him. 
than to add Confidence 10 h'u Malice, and incite him to 
idvince from one Dcgreeut Impudence to another. 

' He has for fevcial Wc^iis pcrhilcd in mirreprcfeeung 
the Intention of il;e Embargo, by Letter; pretended to be 
writrcn by Friend* ol tnc Governnient, who are injured 
tjr it. iJc bai vented hit Inliouatiooi as bitherto, wiih 

Jmpunii/, 




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Xttnot^GfO ImpanhXf to, ar it ippeari, without Fear 7t h Tin*, 
J^si^ (hcrclorc, to difturb his Security, and rcllrain him from ad- 
\m^^r^m/ diug one Calumny taanottier.' 

Sir.Jobn Banurd. 

5 t K, 
« The End or Punithm«nt it to prevent a Reperitioo of 



•It John 



the lame Ciime both in the Otfcnder, and in thole who may 
hiTe the fame loctination!, and when ttut End ii »ccotn- 
plifhed, all firthei Severities hare an Appetirance rather t^t 
Croelty than Jaftice. 

« By punifhing tb< Author of this Libel, we have, in 
jny Oplnioo, (ul^cicntly fecuied our Dignity from any 
future Attacks, we have ciulSed the Head of the Confe- 
deracy, and prevented the fobordinate Agent! from cxecut- 
jag their Malice. Printers can do no Injury without Aa 
thoni and if no Man (hall dare to write a Libel, ft ii not 
wonhy our Enquiry how m-my may be inclined to publilh 

». 

■ But if the Printer mufl nece&rily be punifhed before 
ttte Refenimcnt of the Houfe can be {ati'fied ; it it Ihall 
not be Thought fufficient to punHh him without whofe Affilt* 
usee thc'oihcr coa!d not hive oHer-dcd ; iei u<, at leail, con- 
fine our AnimidveiGoD 10 the prcfeiu Fault. witKoul trace- 
jng back his Life for part MirdemrAnors, and charging him 
with accumulated Wtckednefs ; for i^ a Mao'; whole Life 
11 to be the Snbjed of judicial Entjuinei, when be Ibatl 
appear at the Bar of this Houf^ ihe moll Jnnoccnt nill 
nra Resfoo 10 trnnblcwhcn they approach it. 

* Even with regird. Sir, to the OBcnce of which he il 
now aecufied, (cnncwhat may. perhaps, be fatd in Exieauatroa 
of his Guilt, which I da not (rffier to giatify any perfunal 
Affeilioo or Regard for htm, to whom I am eq«,il'y n 
Stranger with any «hcr Gentleman in thri Houfe, but to 
prevent a Puntfhment which ouy be hereafter thought dif> 
pTOpoitioned to the Crime. 

• Jt il, Sir, to be Temembered, that he was nftr the origj. 
nal PriDier of the Libel, which be only icprintcd from a. 
Papsr, of which he Itnew that it wai to be difperfed at our 
P«or, and in which he could not lUiiurally fi^fpcd any fedi- 
[looi or dangeroQ) AflertkHi) to be contained. It i<, there- 
{are. probable that he fell into ihc Offence by Ignoiance, 
or, at worf), by Inadvertency t and, as his IftreiltioD was 
set trioiin*), be na/ properly be fpaced.' 

Mr. 



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Anno 1 4, Qe*. 



r. WiimbigtOA. 

I cirnot bot ihiok ibe Honoarable Gentleman hctnytd xii. Winninf* 



tjr bis Ztrat fur (be Defence of thii M«n, into foBie Aflcr- wn. 
innt not lo be fupporied by Law or Reafon. If ic be in- 
locnt to prim ft paper once printnl, will ix not inevitably 
' Hew, tb«t the moft enormons InliiJu or tbe Crown iiielfi 
mod friiiticKis Inv'.Aivd, ind siotldiiDgcrotis PoUtioiu, 
If be ditpcrlLil tkiro' the whole Eoipire, williuut Aay 
lOger but to the ocrm»( Pnn rr J And wfau Rralijo, Sir, 
be slBgvfJ. wfcjt tiiat whicb is criminil in one Mu, 
lUl bt ianoceot m utother i 

Nor ii tliii ilie only Tofition which htd been aOvsncnl 
Mnjy to ibr I.iwi of oar Countryt fir it has been Daett- 
that the gefiTi' CVrnfler ri no Offi-ider ii a CoB&d«- 
itioti luidgu fron ttiat of i-is iDimeifi<ikte Ctioic; i inl that 
vhateTci a; y Man'i pkU Life had been. h> ii only to be 
udged aeeof'ing to tbe [ivi>Jence for (he Orieoce, which ii 
xa the Subject of RxAtninUion- 

• How much thi^ Opicton i; confidcm with the PraJlict 
^ our Couni) a very : ivUJec oi ihcir Metboda 

)f procccdii.g. will rr«iii .-r. Ti any Villain (ben 

fcoDviflcd but by the Ipdticnce of hli Chandtcr i And it 
the ct^ief Queftioa at a Trial the paft Cvndufl of thn 
i*cr1bo s( the Bar I ' 

Sir John Barnard. 
S 1 1. 

1 rife up o«'y lo aofwer a QueOion, which ii, whether Sir John 
ipeiiy or not, put to mr, ami bopa ibe Iiregulaiity willfiantarJ. 
be inipticed to mc by titc Houlc, but t« tiie Occafion 
Ifwhich producer it. 

• I .-tm aflcsd , whether t( u not (he chief Quelljon at the 
^Baf of our Court! of Jullice, Wliai ji the ChariN3«f of tlia 

'lifoBcr ? And Un(K>l but frcl (uuic AinaxcRirnt that nay 
Ibcu'd be [o ii^Hotant of common i'racce.lingi, and (o 
tmuch unacquiioied with the Execution of u«ir L^wi, at lo 
[h&vc adioitud a Notion To chimetical. 

• I'hc Cliaratier ol (he fniudcr ii De\'er eiatninedt ex> 
'c<p( when it ii pleaded by himlelr, u*i Wiiocjlo arc pro* 
Iduccd to ofi'^rr rcllimany in Ins |''.ivouri that E'Ica, like alt 
[other*, ii then (u be examined, and lonictimck cpiiluic^ by 
I'^ouraiy Kvidence. But the Chira^ici ot a Criminal, tiio' 

it may ba urged by Ktmtcif as a Proof of tin Inntjccncc, it 
'never lo ba BMUwnod by hii Protccutor a sd A^^rav.itjon 
or Proof of bit Gdill. It it bm le^iutcd by the J^w, that 

the 




( H) 

Anno 14. Geo the genrral Chiraaer of a Crimiaal, bat that ibe panicabr 

IL 17 ^a EvidcnMof (hcCrime. wi(h which hellBndicbarged.flionld 

\yW\J be examined ; nor is hii Cbarafler ever mcntioMd but by 

hiiown Choice.' 

Sit William Yoage. 

SiK, 

Sir WiUljm * "^^ P"*" **** Milignitjf of the Intention with which 
~ Yongc t^'* Libel was inrcrtcd in tlic Daily Paper, it cannot be im- 

proper 10 obfcrve, (hat the Embargo had been, for muy 
J>ay> pttt, the firouriie Popic of this Printer, aod that, 
therefore, it wu not by Accident that he admitted fo zea* 
loui an Advocate for h'n Opinions to be feafonably afiillcd 
by the Circulaiton of his Paper, but that hedoubtlefi wa« 
delighted with an Opportunity of difpcrfing Sedition by 
Mcuis of greater AbilttKs than hi* uwo. 

* Nor can it be juftly pleaded, Sir, in hit favour, that he 
was encouraged to publifh it by the Confidence with which 
be law it ditperfed i for it wai pnnced by him in the Morn- 
ing, and not brought hither till the Aficinoun. I cannot, 
theiefore, but conclude, that bit Intentioni were agrcejible to 
hit PraAicc, and that hr dejetves to accoDpaoy the Author 
iabitptelcnt Conhnemcnt.' 

Mr. Carapbell. 
Si a, 
Mr.Cunpbct), ' I hope it will not be imputed to tne as a Difregird of 
the Government, or Ncglcfl o( the Honour of chit Hoafe, 
that I dcctue myfetr on all Occnfions like thii. inclined to 
Lenity, and ihtnk it ncceftiry alw3)-j 10 proceed by regular 
Method), and koown Forms of JuQice, not by capricioiu 
Determination*, and Orders vanabi'e at Pleasure. 

< I oppofed the ImprifoDmcDt of the Mao who jud now 
ippearet! at the Bar of our Houfe. aod am Hill more unwil- 
ling to proceed to Severities sgainll another, who is crioii- 
nal only in a fubordinate Degree. The loudeft Dedaimeri 
agaiall thofe Men cannot have Arooger Detellaiion of Falf- 
hood and Sedition than mylclf ; but however flagrant may 
be the Crimes, thry may be puniOied with unjullifiable Ri- 
gour.and. in my Opinion, we hvrc already proceeded wttb 
Severity fufficicDi to difeotirage any other Attempb of the 
fame kind. 

• Whether it will promote the Advantage of the Public, 
and the Efficacy of our Deliberations, to deter any Maa 
from the common Pra^ice of giving u> Tnformatlon by de- 
livering Papers at our Door, mull be con(idcrcd by the 

*Nox 



( 25 ) 
' Nor a ii l<(s woithjr of our moH attentive Er.qniry, 4nnni4^C(r< 
uvtuibcr it ii oo< loore rcaJonible to prorccntc ihii Ofrei.der '* >T49- 
To the coRunoxi Kornl^ Lf jiHiu, itian lo pucufb him by 
^•riy A£) ol* uocoouollablr, uiuccouDioble AuilioriLy > Wlic- 
ger ii uaoitaote ruTpjulilp to have bim prQ.'eciUNJ Liefure 
, Judge unprrjtidiccJ, Anil atliftnterellcd Jary, than lo a^ at 
eu I'aiiy, Evidence, and Jotigc. I h»ve noDc£jr, Sir^ 
dunjoiiljiDg ijic Fiivilcgrs of ihii Houlc; and yjet, Icff 
fouJJ ( coriinbuic to rlUbiiOi «n; Preccdeolt of uqlinvW 
E*D>vcr,iir>rburat)' Funiihmcats. 

Mr. Aitornei General. 
Si«, 

' Whence fo much Tendemef* can arife for an Offender Mr Atmmef' 
ihii kinJ, 1 im at a Loft to dilcovcr i nor am I Jble to G«ncr»L 
>nccive any Argumcat thiit can be produced (or exempting 
■Qta Puailliincfit the Printer of a Paper, which ba been 
Mrudy determined by cite Vote vf clic Houfr, to be a fcon* 
itouiLibcl, tci>ding to ptomotc Sciition 

[c hjubccn. inijccd, agreed, ihu there are contained in 
^t Paper (omc irue Pofiuoui, and fomc P^iXigei ionocent 
It leaf, and pcrlum rational and fealbivablc. But ihJi, Sir, 
jotbing more than to lay, that the Piper, fliguiow at ic 
"plight have been iwciled to a ^ater Degree of Jmpu- 
le and Scurrility i ^ai what n already too heinotu to 
bom« roi^ by gitaur Vinilcnce become more ciwr- 

• ir qo WickcdDefi, Sir, u lo be checked till it hat a|. 
incd t>)c gmielt tir^^'i'' «• which it can poSibly arrive. 
urCouiUof Cr4in 'are may be Out upai ufeli^i 

if ^ iitw uuiuv^. . . uoj^rarhi will piliate a Libcl^ 
'mfon ioiiy be wriicen and djlpcrled witfanut U-ingcr or 
.e/trAUit ; for what Libel wai ever To crowded wxh ScU'ti'- a, 
at a few Periods might not have been (eleEtcd, wtijcb, 
ipaa thii Principle, miuhc havcliecored it from Ccnfjrc 
The DiOg'T ot liiiCQuraging Intelli£et)cr from being 



:rcd It the JJuur u( 
tiy /Ij^TchfnfiL'aJ uf 
lire not foroe»n ;'i' 
Ay, ano im'j.'iD!: ' 

iy(:_: - 

llUfC to Juiuw U' 
ncglcA their fvoj' 
ing their Govrroon. 

y»L. vir. 



. dcci nm alum mcwitti 
;,;c lo ibe Nation : (or t 
i :\.e Wifdom of this .'ViT-m- 
m rrcrive any Affifliivcc J'oai 

■ i !" "!:■ ' .'•■'•<) oiigttt, in 

.III', i^ >.'- 't jaiiiriKary 

, than lo be encojiigeij 

' -■'..i, Air the fake of dticA- 



» When 



Annoi4,G(tf * When Sills, Sir, are depending, by wl)i<^ either t^ 
II. 1740. the Intjereft of the Nation, or of particular Men, may be 

!L/Y^^ thought to be endangered, it is indeed the inconteflable Rigfai 
6f every Briton to oflfer his Petition at the Bar of the Houfe, 
abd to deliver the ReaToni upon which it is founded. Thii 
is a Privilege of an unalienabli Kind, and which is n'erer 
to be infringed or denied ; and this may always be fupported 
without countenancing ftnonymons Intelligence, or receiving 
fuch Papers as the Authors of them zte afraid or afhamed to 
own, and which (hey» thcrcftffe« tmploy meaner Handi to 
diftribute- 

'. Of this kind. Sir, undoubtedly, is the Paper now under 
Our Confideration, of which I am hr from imaginiDg that 
it was drawn Qp by the Man who declares himfelfthe Wri* 
^er, and atn therefoft'e Convinced of the Neceffity of calling 
the Printer to the Sar. that Whatever the Lenity or Juftice of 
this AiTembly may determine with Regard to his Puni(hmen^ 
fie may be examined with refpeft to the real Authors of the 
Libel t and that our Refentment may &11 upon him, who 
has endeavou(*d to flwlter himfelf by expofing another. 

Mf. Ord. 
Si «, 
Mr. Ori ' I «ni inclined to believe, that the f erfons affociated at 

Writing and difperfing this Paper, whofoever they may be, 
ire Af no high Rank, or confiderable Influence ; as it is not 
likely that any Man who had much to hazard, would expofc 
himficif to the Rerentment of the whole Legiflaturet bat let 
us not for that Reafon exert our Superiority io wanton Pik* 
itiOiments, or tyrannize merely becaafe we cannot be refilled. 
Let us remember chat the fame Juflice and the fame Huma- 
nity is due to the mesneft, ss the higheft of our Fellow S^b- 
jeftij and that there is evenlcfs Neceffity ol^ rigorous Mca- 
ftires, as the Attack it lefs formidable. 

• Bat. Sir, there is one Motive to MoJcrEtion that has 
fcldom been found Icfs efficacious than the Confitlcration of 
theLawsof Juliiceor Humanity. We ought to be withheld 
by regard to our pQllcrity, and even to ourfe'ves, fro.-a any 
exorbitant Exainfion of our Privileges. V7e kiiuw, that 
Authority once exerted, is clainsed cftcrwards by Prercrip- 
tioo. And who knows by what fudr^en Rotation of Power, 
he may himfeif fuffer by a Precedent which he hns concurred 
a> eC.ablifli, and frel tne Weight of that oppreffive Powtfr 
whioh he firfi grsLted for die Puniflimefit of another I * 



•Mt, 



(. 27 ) 

Mr. Howe. -^TiV;?*" 

S I i, UOTN^ 

' lara alfvayganwilling tot^pofeany Propo&IofLenitjrj,^,., ^owf- 
9nd Forbearaofie, nor iiure now any Intention of heighten- ' 
iDg the Guilt of this Mm by cruel Exaggeratioqs, or ini;itr 
lag the Hoiffe to Rigour and Perfecution. 

■ But let us remember. Sir, that Judicc and Mercy art. 
equally to be regarded, and while we pify'tije Folly of a 
milguided, or perhaps, a tboughtlcfs Offender, let us no| 
iiifier ourfclvet to be betrayed by our Con^paffion, tq injure 
Qurfclves apd DarPoAerify. 

* This Hoofc, Sir, has always claimed and exerted the 
privilege of judging of every Olience againll itfelft a Privi-' 
Ijcge fo long elUbtifhed, and fo cooftantly exercifed, that I 
doubt whether the inferior p>urts of Judicatue will take 
Cognizance of an Attack i)pon us ; for how can they ven- 
ture to decide upon a Queflion of fuch Importance, without 
any Form or PrecedentTor their Proceedings. 

■ There feeoH alfpto be at this Time, Sir.an uncoiDmoa 
Neceffity for Tenacioufnefs of our Privilege!, when at fome 
Whifpcrs which have been wafted from the ether Houfe 
inform us, a Motion hai been made in Term, which might 
imply the Subordination of this Aflembly,.an AiTertioii 
without Foundation eitberin Reafon or Jullice, and which I 
flull always oppofe as dellruAive to our Rights, aw) danger 
rous to our Contlitiftioif. 

« Let us therefore. Sir, retain JQ our Hands the Cogni; 
xioce of this A&irf and let the Crimipal either fuffi:r his 
PuniOiment from our Ssotenct, or owe hit Pardop to ouf 
Mercy.' 

This Motion was then carrid in the Affirraitive; Aytf 
220, Noes 163. Whereupon Mr. Meres was called in an4 
examined, and being withdrawn; 

Refolved, That J. Meres be committed; and that hit 
Majelty be addrefled to give Orders, that the faid J. Mcret 
be profecuted by the Attorney-General, on a Divifion, Ayci 
188, Noes 155. 1 

Then Mr. Hughs was called io and examined, and Juy- 
ing protefled bit Innocence of the feveial Matters con* 
tained in the faid Libel. &c. And being withdrawn, Re> 
folved, that j. Houghs be committed, in order to make his 
Submiflioo for his faid Offence i Ayes 148, Noes 75. 

Otf. 4th. The Houfe, according to Qrdcr, was called ^ 

9vcr, and Thomas Strangeways Horacr, E(^ was ordered 
£ 2 in^ 




(19 ) 

Amof4,Cte- into Coflody f»r Nonaiiendancc; Ayes 203, Noes 155, 
'i^i'^**' ^^-^ * Motion being made, and the Qudlion pui, T hat ihe 
K^v\^ HouTe be cillcd over upon ibis Day Fortnighij itpaffied in 
die Negative, Ay« 3 1 , Noei i j 3 . 

The 5:h. Mf . John Hughs mide hit S.ubrmiffion at the 
Birof ttiE Houl'e, and waj difi;:h.irged upon paying (lii feet, 
KecciTcd a Copy of a Trc;.ty hctween his M.^jelly and 
(he King of Sweden, ai Landgrave of Hene-Cificl ; with 
il TnAAaiion of the Ume. Signed, WcdmiAiter ihc 9ih of 
M»y. 1740- 

Received three Petitions fram Prifonrrs etrnfirTed foi* 
Debt, in the JjiiU of Lincolo. Oxford md Efkx, piayhig loi* 
ReJief. Sec. 

„ln a Committee, mitfe feme Progrefi en the Bin 10 pro- 
hibit, for a limhcd Time, the Exportation of Corn, and 
other Prcvilions oot of Gteat Bmiin, Ireland, and bis Mk- 
Jefiy'j PlanialioRs in America i and deferred the faither 
("onfi-eralwjn (o Tacfday nCxr. 

A Moiiwn being made, and the QueRion put. That the 
Jlotife do atjjourn, it psffcd in tlie Ncgatitcj Aye^ Sy, 
ftofi 99- Then Mf. SaHtlja tnored thst an Addrrfs be 
fTcfcnied to hti Mrjclly, 10 oixicf that the Kftibargo mny be 
taken off of Ship} laden with t'ifh and Rice; which was 
ajtcedio, andotdercd accordicgly. 

The S:h. In a ^ran^ Committee weoi thio* the L<nd- 
Twt Bill, with feveni! Amend en cnti. 

The g[h. Agreed to ihs Report of ibe Lind Tax Bill, 
and ordered it to be cn^rolled. 

Received 3 Petttiott of John Dodd. Eftj: complaining of 
an undue ElcA.on and Return for the Borough of Jtcading, 
in the Couniy of Berk.i. 

The loih. Id a grand Committee on the Supp'y, ramc 
lo rnreral Refcluiiont, 

The I tth. Read a firft time, a Bill for regulating t rrab 
at f^iS Priui, aod for the mtne efHritaal fummoning of Spe- 
cial Jttfiei. 

Agreed to the Report of the following Rcfolutior^s cm 
Ihe Supply, vir. ReibJved, That the Number of Men to bfe 
continued (or Guards and Garllors fcr 1741, be 'O.t^SJ 
Men. intludirg CotnmilTion and Non commiffion Officers. 
Attd thic 893,189!. be granted for defraying the Expcnce* 
of th> t^mc. 

Refolrtd, That 6930 Marines be eontjnocd for 1741. 
And that 1 24.052). be granted fi^riJcfrayiiig the Exptocei 
of tire faipci 



Kefolved, 



{ 29 ) 

Refolvtd, Ttut in»ddi!ioiWl itamher o{ J7OC Meu^ Anno 1 4, Ceo. 
liWfjr 1741. Andtfen ii6,3i?l.begramt<d fof drfray- LlJlT' . 
ig thT Fxpdftcrj of the fime. CATfN-/ 

RcfeJferf.JThat an aildiional Numbcf of 46io Miiinu 
/litcd for f^- ^^'^ '^>i 90,201!. be granted Tor de- 
iving ihc luj-cnces of l^e fitiif. And it was moved, 
h«i the new ruled \)tn be ittcofporiccd inio the [Uaditig 
irps, bccaufi! tl*e roimiiig them into new Rcgimcno 
aold I* mow barc?«f»fr.e and cxpenfive. A-c, Whicb 
ftfr Dfbte pitTcd in the Negative j A>«s 232. Noes 166. 
Theiitfi, Ofdcted, Iha: r/ifmatSuaiigewsys Horncr» 
F.fq:4Mrntbero( this Hoafe,bediicbafgedout of Callody, 
paytoghii t'cei. 

Mr. SaaJyi then moved for an homble Addrefj to hii Ddute ontttC 
U}eiiy, fhji fut ihv future tife of hu Mijefl^'ii Sahjeft', Kni(Joyn>*nt 
J Ofhittt MOW fubiilliog upon llalf-pty, &c. might becm- "* 'l^^'f* 
>k>;«d io the Army, which hi fupponed to ihisliffea. ^""^ ^Afat"*- 

St R, 

Tdo* f hire often known Motloni Of>pofed wiihotit Siip. Sanil^^ 
injr juft Oljcv^ioni, or it Icsll without ai.y Proof 0/ la<h ^ki 
Inceavtaicoats hke\y to arife fram them, ,is were equiva- 
It to tbc Advantage which they would have produced^ 
ftt I cinnoc but coattU, thic my OppoHnon to thii will be 
iMJtpcficd and lurpriftng i for It ii, ia my Opiolon, iup. 
Drted by every Law of Jull^ce and Humanity. If were- 
■fd ibcVoblic'ia genera!, it nnnot bnt produce fome Alte- 
r>a:ion of tlic n^tiooat Lxpcnce: and if wc confider tha 
>.uticulir Prt(oni to whoui it immedUtcIy rcbtrs, they 
m^c certainly x jurt Claim to that Regard, whtcli it is ihtf 
Tendency of thu Mution to procure them. 

To buTthca With luprrlluous OfTtcers, and unneceO^ry 

txpence*. • i'eopic nlit-ady ovcnvf«Imcd ivitb Tajiei, and 

>veT run nl-S [he Dvp*ndcBl* on the Crctvn, is forely to 

fthe hlghc ^ruel and abCuid. And to cocdemo thote 

[Meo to ' . , '_ Hnd Penur>', who have fervcd their 

[Coantry with Bfj^ery and Fidelity, to prefer oreiperlenced 

^ctipIiDgi iQ thofc CocnmifBoaji which would gUdly be 

by Men who have alrtidy tried their Couj^ge in 

Fihe Battle, tnd borne the Fatiguei of Marchei, atul the 

'haoge of Clim^ief, 11 fi:rely not only to opprefi the I>c- 

feiving.and fcaiier Prootoiian without jull Dillinflion t but* 

l^htt nyct more enorniOi»t >e is to wanton with the public 

hfcxy^ and expoi'e tti to oor Eoemie). 

Noi docs it appear (o me fuEclent, that the Vcteiad 
tn bcrtllored to the C^iT'iniffi^ini Whkb lliey foimerly 
[pjoytd ; they ought, upon u: Ajgtncniatijn of our Troop-, 



( 30) 

ArDoi4.GeD to berKo;Bp«]eedbx fonie Advancement for their Services 
11. 1749. ^nd their Sufferings 1 the Enfign ought to become a LieutCr 

Vv/"^'' ~^-' nant, and the Lieutenant be exalted to a Captain ; Station* 
which they yvill furely fill with more Dignity and greater 
Abilitijes. than Boys newly .difcharged ffoni' School, tni 
cntruftedwlth uneipcAed Aaihority. 

< If it be reafooable. Sir, that Expence flip^ld be fparo] 
in a lime of general Poverty; if it be politic to carry 01^ 
War in the manner moA likely to produce Succefs ; if it be 
juft, that thoi'e who have ferved their Country Ihould be pre? 
fcrred to thofe who have no Merit to bpaft> this Motion 
cannot be rcjcfted.' 

Sir William Yonge. 

Si R, 

Sir wniiim ' '^° *^* Motion now made, it will not I believe be obh 
V^nge. je£ted, tha' it is unrtafonable, or unjult, but that it is unne- 

KitSAiy, and that is not drawn up with fufiicicnt ConfideratioOf 
* It is unneccAary, becaule his iMajeity jsadvisM by it to no 
other Mesfures ch.in thofe x^'hich be has ali^eady de^rmined 
to purfue i for he i^i declared to me, Sir, liis InEen:ioii of 
conferring the new Commifiions upon the Officers who re- 
ceive half Pay, before any other Officers {hall be promoted. 
' The Motion appears to me not tc be; very attentively 
conCdered, or drawn up with great Propriety ot hxpreffioa t 
for it fuppofes alt the half-pay Officers ft tor the Service^ 
which c£n>'Otbe iinagincd by any Man, who confiders that 
there has Ic'n'Pesce for almolt thiny Years; a Spsce of 
Time, in which many vigorous Copftitationi muft hs.ve de* 
clircd, and many who were once well qualified for Command, 
mull be difabled by the Infirmities ctf Age. Nor is the Pro- 
inotioq of one of thefe Gentlemen coofidered always as an 
A£l of Favour, many oftheiT) have in this long Interval of 
Peace engaged in Methods of Life very little confident with 
military Empl^'ymentSi many ot them have Families A^hich 
• demand their' Cure, and which they would 'not forfake for 

any Advancr.aes which a new Commiflion could afford them, 
and therefore ic would not bp very confillent with Humanity 
to force thpm into new Dangers and Fatigues, which they 
are now unable tofupport. 

f With rrg:ird to thefe Men, Compaflion and Kindnef* 
feem to require thai they fhould be fuffered to fpend [heir few 
remaining Dayi without Interruption, and that the Dangera 
and Toils of their Youth fhould be requited in their Age witti 
]^(e atid Retirement. 

< There are oihers who hayc lefs Claim to the Regard 
pf (he Public, and who may be pafs'd by in the pilt^ibutiof 

of 



( 3' ) 

bf new Preferments without the Imputatlan of negTedmg Annoi4,de&, 
Merit. Thefe ire tbey who hare voluntarily refigrwd thefr "■ '740- 
Commiflioni for the fake of Half-pay, aM hiTC prefered l«^"V^X» 
Judo'ence and Retreat to tlie Service of tb'eir Country. 

* So that it appears, that of {hofc who noi^'fubfift upon 
Half-pay, fomfe tri unable to exe'tute a Commtffi^n, fome 
do not dcfire, and feme do not deferve it, and with regard to 
the remaining Part, which can be no great Number, I have 
already declared the Intention of his Majelly, and tbercforif 
tannot but conclude that ihi Motion is needjefi.* 

Mr. PuLeney. 

S.a.. 

* I know not hf what Fatality it is, tfiat all the Motions ■^nii. Pijife; 
tnade by one Party are reafonable and oecelTary, and all that ney,' tJiji, 
ire unhappily offiired by the other, are difcovered either tt> 

be needlcfi or of pernicious Tendency, Whenever a Qutf- 
tion can be cloaded and perplexed, the Opponents of the 
Miniltry are always milUkert, confuted, and in Confequencft 
of the Confiitations defeated by the Majority of Votes. 
When Truth is too nocorious tcr bfe denied, and too obvious 
to be contelled, the Adm'iriiftration alwaysclaim the Honour 
of the frit Difcovery, and will never own that they were 
incited to their Duly by the Remonllrances of their Oppo- 
nents, tho* tliey never bcforethofe Remonltrances had dis- 
covered theleiA Intention of performing it. 

* But that the Morion is aUowed to be juft and p'roper, 
is fufiictent, the Importance of it will be ctfily difcovered. 
For my Part I (hill always Comfider that Motion as tmpor' 
tant, which tends to contract the Expenccj of the Pub'ic, to 
fefcite Merit f-om Neg)e£l, and to hinder the Increafe of 
the Dependenn on the Mioillry.* 

Sir Robert Walpolt'. 
Sir, 

' Thert is no T4mfter Wore oppofite to that inceffant j^^- j^^^^ 
Attention to the Wellare of the Public, which is the perpe-ivzlpolc. 
tual Boalt of thofe who have lignallzed therafelves by oppo^ 
.fngthe Meafuresof the Adminiftration, than a Lultof Con- 
tradiftion, and a OifpoKtion to difiurb this AiTembly with 
fupctfluous Debates. 

< Whether this Difpfiiitiotf is not difcovered in the Reply 
made to the Declaration of his Majefty'i lotentiom, and the 
Confrffion of the Propriety of rhe Motion, let the Hobft de- 
termine. It ntuft.furcly be conf«JIcd, thit it is EOtnKellaiy 
•0 advife what it already determined. 

« Nor 



I 



1 



( 3* ) 

^irmot4.Ceo ' N« is it \tU evident, ihot many of [he Officfri whole 
11 i7t3. Intertn it now fo uurmly roliciicd^ nmtl be incifKurititeil by 

l/^yNJ ibeii Age for Service, and unable to receive uijr BencAt 
from the Offer of new i^ummiffxopi. To deny this, U Co 
qurlllon the Fiux of Time, or to imaeinc that the CaoAitu- 
lion of a SoIJicris cxcuiFt from ill Jnjuncs.' 

Mr. Sandys. 

$1 K. 

&ubl)s' * I am Cu* from iniendjrg by tfaii Mouoo to fill the 
^'^5 Army with decrepid Officcn. or to obftrofl lo any manner 

Ibe Ser\-i<c of the Public i nor have 1 aoy other Intent'Oft. 
ibao to (ccure to ihofc whofe Yeari permit, a&d whole 
Inclioaiions incite them to cotrr once more into the Army, 
that Preferment to which ibey hAveaClBim. not only 
from their pti Servicei, but from the Sutr of Peancy UM 
Ohicurity in which ihey have UoguiQicd. 

■ 1 <lefire (o prcfervc thofe whofc Valour hai herttofere 
Duuleour Nation the Terror of the World, from tlic Uor- 
lificadoii of ieriog thcmlclvet inrolted by Childhovl, aod 
comnanM by Ignorance i by Ignoraacc exalccd lo Auiho- 
riiy. by the Counteaaocc of fomc fUicioriciaa of the Hoale, 
or feme Mayor of a Borough. 

^ Whoever hatobrervcd the late Didiibaiion of military 
lioBcnirg, wiU cafily difcover that they have been attaloaJ 
by Qualifications very difierent from Bravery. or Knowledge 
oi the Art of Wari he will Bad that ReginicDt* and Com- 
paoirs ate the Rewartli otf* a fealonabte Vote, and that do 
Man can prefervc bit Poft in the Arioy, whether given htm 
u the Reward of ackoowJcdged Meni, or fold him for the 
fuU Valae, any longer than faeemployi all his InflucDCe io 
ftvour of the Miniltry. 

Sir Robert Walpok. 
S 1 a, 
Sir Rohert * It hai bfe« already admitted, that the MoUoo can only 

Walpolc- bcobje^led toas fuperfloous, and therefore all farther Dehac<e 
u mere Wafleof Time without any Profpcclof Advantage, 
nor it any thing now acccilkry, but to review the Motion, 
■ad corte^ fiKh ExprefiJont as xiuy be thought inaccurate or 
improper. 

* That «//the Half-pay Officera art not able to ouer 
into the Service, h** been already 0irwn, ud therefore 1 
Ihoutd imagine, that inflead of aii tkt OffUtrif wc aiigbC 
vcryJBltly lubili<ut« Q^ff" frvftrfy ^alijiid.' 

Sir 



...» J Anne M, Ceo. 

jr Jokn fianuud. u 1740. 

• Tho* r oinBot cUfcover ihe Nweflity of any Altcnition, Sir Jthn 
ioce it cannot be cnicivcd tKat the PxrliamcDt aa advifc RAmsrJ. 

ipoflibilitiei, yri dncc fo much Accuracy u ifl'cded, it 
ny beiMown) thai the Word «y/lli&llbe left out, asfcem- 
D£ to imply more ihan can be intended. 

• Rue il;e llonounblc GentlcmaD ii not. io my Opiniun, 
hsppy is his AmenJmcnt, ai in hh OI<jr^ion ; for th« 

Wordi frsfirU fua/ififJ Qonvey 10 me no cminil Idea. lie 
bat ift fitalifitd, ii, I ruppore, fo^rlj qaalijitj, fur I ocvcx 
' of tmptf**' ^afi/i<ati9Ht ; but Jf ihc Word pnttrlj 
ominrd, 1 bivt oo ObjcCtjoD 10 the Amendracnt,* 

Rerolved, h'cniKe ConlfaJmnif, That an humble Addrefs 

prctcnied lo hit Majeily, that, for ihc picfcnt and fuiure 

i^ oF hi& Majfll)''sSiibje(^;, hewould hcgracioufly plcafett 

employ io hit Army luch Perfons ai now reouin upon 

lalf Pay, who arc qualified to ferve hit Majefly. 
In a grand Committee took the Bill to prohibit the V.x- 

iitaiion of Corn, Set, into ConCulcratioo, and ^fier Dcbdie* 

efolvcd to proceed further on the fiiroe on Moiwliy oexij 

kyes 147, Noes i)t. 

Tbe t Cth. Read a thiid Time, »d plied the taod>Tax« 
till. 
Read a firfl Time. 1 Bill to amend the Law concen:ing 

immon kecovcries ; and lu explain and Amend an Ad zgth 
Charles U. for Prevention of fraudi and Peijmici, io 
aithe Ume reUiei to EiUicj. pt' Aatf y'tt. 
Received the Report of bis Majelty'i Anrwer to iheir 
ddrel) of Knday Uit, viz. •• I (lull always have :> due 
Reptnt for my Half-par Officcis, aod Biall employ fuch of 
tkcTB as are properly qualified for tti« Service.'' 
Agreed to tbe Report nf the Kefolution on Wayi and 

leant, viz. Kekilved, that tbe Dutin on Matt, Mum, Cyder 
Perty. be further continued to the 241)1 of JuiWt 1 743. 
'crcd in t Bill accordingly. 
A Motion being made, and the Qjirllion being put, chiC 

Ir. John Mcrei, who wat committed to tbe Cultod/ of ihfl 

:rjunt at Armii and ordered to be profccukd by the At- 

>mey General, for pnnting l^rt of a icandaliwi Libel on 
Embargo, Ac in the Daily-Potl, December ill, 1740. 
carried bctore one of the Julticei of the Couit of King's 

each, in order 10' be admtited to Bail far hit .'\ppnr4ncc 
the &rtt Day of acxt Tersn ; and when be hii given Ttxti 
Vol. VU, F Security, 




k/YN^ 



(34) 

Anooi* GeoSwurity, t!«t ke be difchixged oui of Cttttoay, pajring hU 
U^ij40. Fees: it paffod in the Negative ; Ayes 90, Nmii^i. 

Midi: a furthef Progpel'» oD the Corn Bill. 

The i6ih. Read a iirft Time, 1 Bill for coiiinuinj ibe 
Duties upon Mall, Mum, Cyder and Perry, for the Svviot 
of the Year 1741. 

Made a further Progrefs on the Bill to prohibit f«r a limiwd 
Tiaie the Exportation of Corn. Ac. 

The 1 7ih. Read a ftcood Time the Malt Bill. 
' lb k Grand (.'omniitwewcnl ibro' the Corn Bill wiih 1^ 
veral Amendments. 

Received a Petition of the Goreraor aid Cocnpiny of 
Merchants of England trading to the Levant S<as, pi^yiog 
to be heard againlt the Petition of the RalEt Coropaii)> for 
opening aocw Trade thro* Ruffii to Perfia. 

Ordered in an Account of the Butter imported into Londoo 
for Icvea V'e^ra pafl, ending at L^dy-Day, 1 740. 

The tSth. Read « fecond Time, a Bill for regelating 
TrUli at Ki^ Phm, and for the more cfieAtul fummoning 
of Special juries, and commiited it for the i jth of Jnnoary. 

Read a fecond Titne, a Bill to amend (be Law coocertting 
coraaion Recoveries, and to amend an Aft 29tb K. ChaTlea 
II. for Pteveaiicn of Frauds and Perjuries, &.c. and commit' 
ted it for the i6:h of January. 

Mr. Speaker reported. That the Hotife had attended lui 

Majefly in the f loui'e of Peets, where hU Mijcily was plcaM 

to give the Kuyal AlTent to 

HoyilAflent Ao Afl for granting an Aid to his Majelly bya fjnd.Tax 

livaitotbe loberaifed m Gieit Briuin for the Service of the Vear itai. 

,d.Taa.Bil»,pj .^^c private Ad. 

W«nt into a grand Comioittee on the Petittoo of the 
RufTu Compiny. &c and examined feveral X^vaol Traden 
•gainll (he fiiid Petition ; then came to a Reruluiion thereupoa. 

The 19th. Received Part of the Report on the Corn- 
Bill, and ordered the tarthei Part to be confideicd 00 the 
13th of Januar;. 

Agreed to tfte Report of YeSerday'i Refolodon, vi& 
Refolved, That the opening of a Trade to and fron Perfi& 
thro' Ru2ia, will be a great Advaiuage to ibii Kiogdom 1 
aitd particalarly. ia proinoting the Confuaiptioa of tJl< 
WooleO'Manufidurei thereof. 

Ordered in a Bill acctmliogl/. 

Received a Pctiiioo from the City of London, compluo- 
ingof the [ncHcftiialnefs of an A^ yii of King Jamei I. 
for the recovering of fmall Debts, and for the lelinriwaf 
poor Debtor* in Louden. Aad pra^u^g (w Icart w buRy 



give 
Lan 




Lemwit gireo Aitfio u,<!e 
11.1740. 

t Commiaee ao the Mzic BiU tiU O'^VN^ 



( is ) 

I m Bin to evpWn ud amend the fame. 
ccordinglf. 
Deterred going 'Oto 

7[h of Jflituary. 
Ovftrrtd Ming into a ComtntttM aa Ways and Mesu till 
[ifac 7th of ^^noary. 

DefttnA going iaw 1 CommiRce on (be Supply till tb« 
l^tb ol jiinuiry. 

Tbcn adjottracd tjll the jth of Janmr/. 
7«(i. 7. Received fevcral Peuaoas from Prironen con* 
Efied tot Oabtin the Jiili of L3ncal>er. Jvelchedcf, Exeter, 
iSori. Ludgaie, Ncw^te, WoodArecc ind Poultry Cuinp* 
Ifen. praying Relief, tec. mbich wen ordered to lie ofi the 
fTaMd. 

Kead a ftrQ time, a Bill for the more eafy Jtecove/y of 
itl Debt*. 

Refolved. Ntmine rmtrmJirrntt, Thai ao bumble Addrela 

prerentedio liii Mijclly, to congratulate hit Mijclly upM 

[|hc incTC-ifc of the Koyal Family, by her Royil Highaefi 

Ibe Pf riK<li a» Wales being happily dclivcied of a Pruicefj. 

Aflotved, Nrutmi (9»t>adi<rnlt, 1'hai a coflgntulacory 

■ge be fcnt to (lieir Royil HigbndTei cbc Prinec and 

PllKeh of W«lci,an this happy Occafwa. 

In a grand Committee wem thro' the MaliBiH, with 

Efcveral Ammdmentf. 

The 8th. Agracd to the Report of the Malt Bill, and 
[otdcred It to be engrolTed. 

Received the Report of hU Majefiy'a Aafwtr to their 
MgraltiUtoty AddiWi, &c. 

The 9th. Reccivad a PditioB of the CammilTKiarni for 
jildirtg a Bridge crori the River Thamet at Wdlmtnllcrt 
l^ra^ing for funiicr Sum* of Money to caahk them to carry 
g iha fune. Rcferretl 10 ■ Committee. 
The nth. Read a third time, and paflcd the Matt-Bills 
'erderad h tothe Loida. 

Received a great Number of Papers, &c. Ofdered to be 
JrcAcd for on the >6tli of Noremberlaft. 

Agrfld to the Report of the following kcrolutiom on the Several Dcfict* 
\y, yia. Ktfolved, cKm 262;!. 41 jd. be granted toen^ica luiie 
good the DHuievcy of the genml Fund for the Year V^"^ 
adlng at Michaelmai 1740. 

That 5011I. 101. id. begraoKd, (0 replact to the Sink* 
ig-Fund tlic like Sum paid qui of the fame, to make g(x)d 
\m Dificitaty of the additional Stamp-Dutica m CfariAmaa 
I7J9- 



f % 



That 



14. Ceo 




(36) 

That 20,000!. be granted to replace to ibc SmUifigTl 
the like Sum paid oat of the fame 10 the Back of Englaod, 
for ntie Yc&t'i [ctercU of 500,000!. IcDt on CreUii of tJio 
Sal: Daty, towards tbc Supply of the Year 1735. 

Thai 3371 1 1. 81. 6d.be grartedtofcpl«cc tothc Sinking- 
Fund, the like Sum paid out of the I'aine. co make good ih« 
]3eliciency of the Duty of I u. per Barrel oa Sweets. &c. 
at Mkhaclma* 1739- 

Tbe t 3th. Read a firfi time, a Bill for opening a Ttwit 
to and from Perfix thro' RulTia, 

Read a Ucoad lime, a Bill for the more eafy Recovery of 
(miU Debit. 

'J he Hoafe made a farther Progrrfi on the Report of ite 
Corn.Biil, and conCicrcd levcral Petitions concerning Ok 
(unc. 

The i4ih. Received a Petition of the Royal Afrku 
Company of England, praying for a farther Supply. Or- 
dered that [everat £riiiiiates relating to the iamt be laid 
before the Moufe. 

Jidadc a further Progr<rs on the Report of the Corn- Sill. 

The 151(1. The Houfe Anillied the Report of the Corn* 
BiU.and ofilered ic to be cngroH'cd, 

The 16th, A Motion wm made, and the QacHton bong 
put, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to explain »nd 
amend an AA palled taLl Seflion to retrain the cxccfTive In- 
crease of Horfcfijces; it pa&d la the N<gative, oa 1 
DiviGun, Ayct i;.Noci t;8. 

Received u Pcotion of the Dean and Chapter of St. Pe- 
ter's, WeftaiinAer, pi-yingfuta further Sum towards the 
Rcp^iriof the Cud CathedraJ. Referred to the Contmiitce 
«a tiic Supply. 

la a grand Committee went ihro' the Bill to amend the 
£aw concerning common Recoveries, and to explain an Ad 
:9ih King Charles JJ. for Fttrvencion of Fraoda and Pwju' 
riei, To bra* the fame relates loElbtcs, f^r atUir Fitt with 
feveral Ameudmenti. 

The t9th. The Houfe proceeded to the hearing of the 
FedtioD of John Dodd. £lq; complaining of an undue Ejec- 
tion and Return of William Strode. Efqi for the Borough 
of Reaiiing, in Berkihircj aod the Ccuofel were called in. 
zod fcverai Witneffei for the Petitioner were examined at 
the Bar of tbcHoufcj after which, the Cuuofel on botli 
Sido were dircAcd to witliOraw. 

Deferred the Call of the tioufc 10 the 3d of February. 

The z6th. Relolved, That an humble Addrcfs be prt- 
fmted to bit MaJcHy, for a Lill of fuch Commiilion and 
Wjcn^it OSicn-s at are cofv ppon Half-pay in (he Nary, 

to^etlicr 



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_ ( 37 ) 

,fT wirt) an Account of their refpeflive Ages, and the Anno i4,Geo. 
to of their firft Cooimifioiis, and hi'W lung ifid how 11.1740. 

icn they hfcK been employed, to lie Inid bel'ore (Iw Hoofe, 
RccctVMl a Pcti(iCM) of divers Mcrchanlt, met Owners of 

hip!, praying for leave to bring in a Bill for rxpUmtog 
d amending zn Ac) t £lh of ^uectt Anne, ior proviiiing s 
61 ic Reward forfucb Pcrfoo orPrrfont. a* (lull tiilcoTcr tfae 
pgi;uJe .at Scj. : And ihc iJioc Wat xclcrred to a Com- 

lOCS. 

Heard Coafifel funber on ibe Merits of the Rnding 
lecttoo; anU fevenl WitnelTef were <>Ued in. tnJ cxa- 
jned, in order 10 difiguAlify the Votci for itie ftttJDg \lem- 
bcr. Tboa tbe Couniet on both Sides were dirr£led to 
ithdraw. 

Tb< lilt. Rectived ao AccouRt, Qiewiog howiheMoitey 
iven for tbe Setvin of tbe Year 1 740. hath been difpofcd 
'. dillinguilhed under the (rveral HKids. una) tbe iQlh of 
Jantuiry. 1740-41. and the Farti thereof rruuming unlatis- 
fied. with ttic Overplui thereon. 

Kccrived ipcdtionof the Painters of F-m Mounn in t nd 

ibout the Ciiiea of London nnJ WcftminHer, Cetting forth, 

^hat about three Years ago. Ici-eral Perfor.t procured Cop- 

Pift^es lor tbe priotiDgof Fan-Mount<, by- which mcioi 

Of of tbe Afullsxrr reduced 10 tbe uimoft l)il)re<5 for 

t of Empluymeni 1 lh«it one Kngraver and two I'iinters 

re able to lurnilh itioie prinird Fin Vlounii in a Monib'i 

i^'ime, than this KingJuiii oiiikei uk ot in a Vex ; and one 

etfon employed in the w&thing of tbclc pnnie>i Fan* 

l«unu, wi:l colour tikore in three Days than one P.t)ntcr 

a paiul io a quarter of a Year : Thai by the IntroduAion 

of printed inflead at well piinted Mounts for Fans, the Ait 

f painting Faa-Mountt, which %va< broogni togrejt Per- 

ioorii grealty dilcour>g«J,and th< Exportiiioii of Panf, 

ilh {mintOLl Mount*, wjiich brouglit into tbii Kingdom 

largs &am of Money annually, almtill entirely lolt 10 

GreiE Briuin: And therefore praying the Houfe to grant 

tfacm fucb Relief, attotbcm Ai4Ul«eai ncet. Kcferied to 

C'ommi'.tre. 

Read a iirlt time, a 8jU to r:oder the Laws more effL-^linl 
ilor preveotitig tbe Aealing aitd ddUoytng tbe Sbrcp aad 
Oibar Cattle. 

■ Received a Petition o( tbe Traflccs for cAabtilhing the 
Colony ot V>corgia io Atnrrica. pnying for a fircbrr Suin of 
Money, &c, Kc-'crred to tbe L'umniittec oa tbe Supply. 
Rccrived favErat Etiinvatet of Accounts. 
Tba tad. WiUiim Cooiey, (who wa comiDitied to Nevr- 
utc 00 Dtccobcr tbe Second, for beiog the Aucbor ind Pub- 
•^ liflwr 




Scvenl Samj 
graiUoL 



_ C 38 ) 

Jjmo i4.Gro lifhrr ofa tiulfetom and fcuidalojii Libe\ entitlrd ConGdto. 

U- '?40- niiions upon lit* Rntbirgo on f-c-riOan of Vi^ti,] ] wta 

^■VNJ brcijgti: CO [h< Bur. and h;iving uj-on hi* Koe«« rcteh-Ml & 

Kcprinuuid Iron) Mr SpCiker. uii order«il to bvdKclMrjed 

out of Coflody. pA^icR tiit. Frcs. 

Rcadnficit tune, 1 Bill to expliiii and tnendia AQ jd of 
Kisg Jimri J. for the Recovery of SiuaU Debit, ud iariM 
retievingof poor Dcbton in London. 

Agreed to the Report of the U'U to Amend tbf Law coe- 
ccTDing common Rccorciin, ud to exp'iin »>*i uMBd aa 
AA 2^-h of Kiag Cbkjles II fur >*rcTc«ioR <if Knudi and 
Fctjiinc &c OnJcred it to be engrolGxl 

Agraed 10 th« Repon of ycllerdky't ]t(!->I<;:^ni 00 tW 
Sopp'f, »ix 

ReTolvrd. VhU 184,691!. io«. lod. brCrantrd (QbhM|. 
jrfly for th« Ordinary uf tbe Nivy, including Hilf-pay «tf 
ijca Ofiiceri fc 1741 

That 1 15,12;!. 31 7d. be granted for the Chargr of iba 
OfRce of Ojrfmnce for l^nd Service for i 74 1 . 

That 76,0711. t». 4J. be granted fordefrajring the »«*«- 
ordinary Axpcncc of tbe Office of Ordnanc* for Ljind Service, 
net pravidM for hy Psrliuneat. 

Tutz66>$i2L i6*. 5d. be granted for maincaiiag the 
Yattfi in [he PUuuuoai, Minorca, Gibnltv, Geoigu, &c. 
lor (741. 

Tbai 4000I. be grawed towArdi re|ttiring the Collrgiait 
Cbaidiof St. Peier'i, Wcdminfter. 

The xjd. Hcird Counjcl farther on the Mrn'ta of tk« 
Reading Ktcdion: And in order io<[ahliiy feme Perioitiwho 
voted fur the iitling Member, Thomai Houfc prodnced ■ 
CcitificJite ligned by (wo Jullices of tbe Peace ; and tkt 
Coanfcl for ine iitting Member hiring obje^led to the Ad- 
niAon of that Paprr m evideacc, the Hand writing of tb« 
fud Jul'.icci not being pfoved . and the Counfcl for the Peci- 
lioner having beea heard by way of Replj : The Conaiel eft 
both bidrt were dirrfled to withdraw. 

Aksr Pibat«, It waa Refolved, That a Paper dated 291^ 
Match. 1728, purporting to be a Ccrtilicate from th« Pahfll 
of -Woodley m the Coumy »f Bcrkf, to the Parifh of St. 
Liwrenrc in the Borough of Keading, figned by two Jtffticct 
of the Peace, aUoiving the faid C'enthcate. and now pro(hico4 
by Thomat Hoofe, wbo lAi lor bit Brothrrai an Overfeer of 
the Poor of the did Parilh of St. l^wrencf. b« edniltvd 10 
bcrtad IB EvtdfBcr, aliho' the Hiodwritiog be not pcovoA t 
Oaa DiirifioD, Ayca 14;, Noei 144. 

TbcCom-ftill '^^ '^^' '^'^ ' ^^'^ ^'°''' '*"* F*fed the Bill to 
I nttbi. proh'bic ht ■ Tun* tbcrcift United, the EsportBtinn of 

L Corn. 



ProcredniKa 
00 tbe hw- 

iOg ElOdUML 



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( 3>) 

irntl, fRi«exif««Ij Meal, ITslt, Floor, Bread, Anno u, i 
, Stvcb, ii«l, Pcirk. ^-d Bicon t and ortkrcd jt lo che "• >7-40- 

I a facoad dac ifac BiU for prcveatuig Sheep. flea) ing. 



JH^. Wailfr iftrf^ thr ft/l^aiit^ MtHim in /Th/h^, Motion for 
J3«f mm kmmbie .imirtft kg frtftmtid t* hit Mi^tfij^ that ht two Lettcn 

m^iti* ■= ■;'/»V Stctlary vf Statt t9 Admiral Had- 

Aci, **■■ I '• *.«• iittu Addr^Jftdfar it/art, amdt/' tbr Ltntrt 
rmnvdfwtm Admtr^dQgU mmnnfd tbtftm; u^lJttr%vii^ 
mf: ' -■■ umitm hf Admirml Hatdtt/cie iithtrtfbu JHW- 
j:\_ ..Tin i/Sutr, nmrrnim $ht faid Lttttri, amd 

tkt tuf^sr'tmtftit Q'J*ri nntaimtd thtrtia. 



Drbkte 



S.B. 

No Mar who confiden the prrfenr Sinntfon of our Af mj. Wiii«, 

U> Ljtpeoc<i><d Irnefiicjcy of o-jr Miliurj' Piejurs- 

ite Appnniict of Negligence in our Navjl £xprdr. 

tbc gmrt^l Ditnj>poinrrreiit of the Hope: which 

kad conceived of ViAortes, Vengeance, and Rc- 

car, in tny Opinjoo, doubt the Eipcdienc^ of tlie 

iwkkti I havr islten the Liberty to make. 

Wfe«a the EzpefUfioni of the Naiioo sm deceived, U 

becotD'-.i ihofirwhoare depatcd to watvh over the 

*r "' ;M Pabllc, to enquire whence the DirRppoint* 

', and either lo infbnn iheir COnHituenti thac 

.ocuuricia Kitio l(om ttrtif OWD £fror, aod that TheU 

l*rcd<llioy(d t^tcftu'r liic)' hadnomtionai Foancfaiioa t 

M 4cMtt iti« vvrsk »: ni^ement of ibofe 1^ whom the 

MMiart» have brrf< .1 condufkd, or the oational 

ba* been BiiU|<r> led. 

• Wka fCjprJ, S|i. «■ uic pTWrnt War, T know not how 

iha NadoB on b>- baring fbnned unrrifon- 

lblsE*p«Aa:lioa* '.^nA (he S[>e<ch from ths 

Th r OM «■ tbr molt u ^ci..K- iJecUrJlioQ nf ihe Intent:oni 

rfAeGowernntent. thrv t'Uind rhf re (he warmeft Rflcntmcnc 

iba U)one» Mrfaich ibey hud luimmet, and the flroDgeA 

%J I ngotoiu frai'mi'ion of ^sll ihofe Meadircs 

aigbc pfodtKc 'pMil)' Rccompence and tnrioUble 

ity- 

Iftfctf rflicA. Sir, oo the Prepinttoni for War. on the 

of SLtpt, the Demand of Mitrrialt for Naval 

and the hi^h Prioei m which Workmen were 

xeuioei 









( 40 ) 

AfUM 14, Ceo KtaineJ, tbty canld ant bat iatdgiAC that either rome irttgtf- 
ey Ancmptwasddigned, orlomc formidable Etwmjr dmtlc<}| 
aod ai thty ki>ow hoc whom they h.>d lofrai.ibcy klcribed 
the Vigunr of oar Procreding* 10 a Rerduiion of bumblinf i 
our Kiictnm by one dal Blow, and icellablifbing our N«ml 
DotntnioD by a Tingle £9on. 

* And juflly. Sir, might ihcy indulge ihh pleallng Tbu- 
ginatKHi.with Rcaloa might ihey anikipuEe aTriumphover 
an Eftrmy whofe Strengrn bears no proponion to (he Foftc 
that wat Aned out agajnft ibera. >nd cxped thit in a few 
MoQtlii ttaey fttould fee the E^mbailidofi of Spiin (upplica* 
tiogfor Peace. 

• To raift their ExpeAatiofli ^et higher, their Tndeww 
fkirpendal by anEmburi^o. Iimg coniinued, anil >ncbel\riA«A 
Manner eiifdrced, ami the Inipreltei were let ioofe upon lh« 
Sailors [ t)iry faw nothiog omitted, however gricvou* to the 
N^ition. that could con:ribute to make ii formidable, ud 
bore I'ait of the Miferiei of War wiihsut Itapatic&ce. ia 
Hopei of being rewarded by military Glory, and repaid hf 
the rinnder of Spini. 

' But. Sir, when folonga Time kai cUpfed, and do Ac* 
count » brought, of either a Vtfiory or a Bictle. when litej 
bear nothing but (hat our Fleeu hive vtfiied fereral rcb- 
iraJ Port*, uid thofc of the Eoemy failed umnoletled from 
CoaA to CoaO, ;>--<d when they are every Day told of ihs 
Lolfciof our Mci:hant9,whoare inlulicd in our own Channel 
by the Spanilh Privaiecrt, and receive no Relatiooi of our 
Succefk upon the Sb»rci of our Enemtci, can it be woa:!ereil 
that they fufpc^L the Kcaliiy of our Dcfigna. or coqair* 
whence it procecdiihat their Money has been waAcd, their 
Tntdc intcriupied. and the liberty of Uieir FcUow-Subjeftl 
invaded to no Purpoie f 

■ But how much more juftly. Sir, are they inflamed whes 
tbry bear of the liKky Stratagem i, or daring Eaterprizei of' 
ihok Enemies, which a. jull Scafie of their own Superiority 
IukI itiJutrd then to conlider a» vanquiihed before the Bac* 
tic, and ot wtiom they hjd do Apprehenitoni but that thdrj 
Cowardice would always fccurc them from Vecigeanee )i 
Ilowjulily may ihcy murmur when ihcy read chat our Flecu 
leave cvriy Part of the Eneinv'4 Coall where their PrelcDcc 
ii neccfliry, and have affijrded (he Sptntaids an OpportnaitX' 
of changing one Port tor anuther, ai it ia mofl coflveiucat.| 
and at Icngin of joining the French Squadrons, and lailinf < 
to the Delencc of tlirir Aoierican Dominioni. | 

■ • May they no; jul^Iy, Sir, require of their Keprefeatatinal 
foine ftcalbn for ioch inexplicable Condud f May they oot! 
raronably dcsund u Accouu of th« Arguntrnta whkbl 

procured 



I 



r 4i ) 

pronred their Apprpbation of Meafures, which, fo far asAnnou^deo, 
ihcy can be examined by thofe who have no Opportuni:/ H' n-¥*- 
af fcnifing the neccflary i*apers, appear cither cow.:rJ.y or K^/^y^^^ 
UCKbennis f 

• And what Anfwer. Sir, can we return to fuch Rrmon- 
fliancn, aniefs this Motion be agreed to i How can wc z^p- 
peife the Dilcontenti of our Conllitucnts, ordifcM.rge the 
7>att repofed in ut, without a very minute an<i dtceniive 
Eaqairy intu QucIlioDi thus obfcure, and chui, important. 

• Arc we are to tell our Conllituents, thnt we abfolutely 
leljr npon the Prudence and Fidelity of the MiniiEry and 
Admirals, and recommend to them ihe fHrne implicit Depen- 
dnce i Arc we to confcfs that wc have now for iwoSi^lTions 
need in the dark, and approved what we were not I'ul&red 
10 cmmiac andunderfiand ? 

• Such Anfwers, Sir, to Quellicns To reafonable, will not 
csBtribnie to increafe the Veneration of the People either 
far oarfclvei, or our Conftitution ; and yet this Aofwer, and 
bit only, they can receive from us, if the Papers men- 
doocd in the Motion i have made are denied.* 

Mr. Clutterbuck. 

■ Thii Motion, tho* fo warmly urged, and fo artfully j||. ciuttei* 
fapportcd, I can confider only as a Repetition of a former biK^. 
UdtioB which was approved by this AlTembly, fo far as it 

amid properly be complied with, nor was any Paper then 
CBOcealcd which it would not have been an Injury to the 
Nation to have divulged. 

■ If the Defign of this Motion be to promote the Succefs 

of the prefent War, and the Ze:il, with which it has been 

prefled, be ircitrd only by the Ardour of true Patriotifm, I 

doolit not but it will eafily be withdrawn, by thole who ;ire 

vcm Boftly inclined to fupport it, when they {hall reflet 

that it teods to the Di-cuvery of our Schemes, and to the 

Overthrow of our Defigns, that it will expofe ull our Con- 

Utationa to our Enemies, and infituA them I'low to annoy 

(iwith mod Succefs, and how tn flielter themfelves from our 

landed Attacks. 

■ It is the 6rft Care, Sir, of every Adminiltration, that 
Acir military Defsgiis (hould only bf dilcoiered bv the 
EnntioD of them, and that their Enemies, by being obliged 
npard all Parts, (hould be weak in all : If by laying our 
hsen before this Hcufe, the Spaniards (houlJ come to l>e 
Mnmed agiinlt what Part of their Dominions our Kxpe- 
dttioM are defigneH, will they not increafe their Strengih^ 
iBrove their Fotttfications, and double their Vigilance r 

Vol. VII. G and 



(4*) 

Annoi4.C«o.Bnd if we aretbui obliged to form ftCwSchemM.mufl wr not 
. 11.1740 impute the Defeat of (he foriner 10 out own imptudcK 
'""'''^^l^^''^ Zc<tl,or unfeafonabic CunoCiy t 

Mr. Sandyv. 
Si I, 

Sjni SnJyf, < Thai wc (hou^d dcmiiHl the Scbcoifs lahl for the futon 
£i()t Contiufl wf tlie Warwiib !>p»iti wai ocvcr piopoied, aot, u 

ic may teiiooMy be cuocludiJ, ever iinaginciJ; for wbit » 
Uicniiuncd in the Moticii but the I'apcts icUimg to cbi 
'J i^nU^lion* flf the two UA Yttn ? 

* TlMi U Oiould be ncccirarr to remiml Gcnilemeo of thfl 
t)iK:rcnccbci«recrf \\\t /utuit 4mJ the /<«/f, wuuld bard'y be 
fufprUeJ by any Man not acciillotncd to )j<%rliuincntary Con* 
ttoviit'iC3 aiid Aitificci (jf Sidie ; and yet to the Argumm 
tohicli lui been oScred sgAiull the Motiuti, notbing hui bcui 
fcdeticd, but that the Orders relating 10 palt T ran (aft 1001 art 
not 10 t>e WA before ui, \<i\ the Enemy QiotiM thereby g&io 
Jntclt^gence uf uhat v^e now dciign sgiinll them. 

* 'I'be NcccHity of Secrecy in War nee<lt not tobeorgcdi 
bccatifc it Will not be denied ; but when Dcfigni have bvro 
laid, and miKarned, the Realons of that Milcarii^ge may 
fiue'y be enquired into without Danger of betraying ibe 
Councili cf ouf L'oantry. 

* If the Negligence of caeCourcils, and the Mifcondod 
of our Lumm^irdcis has been {uch, ih^t no Dcfigni baft 
beet) preit)cUil3ted ; ifa Wir hai been carried on by Chance, 
and RotbiDg tin lucctcded bccaulc Dothlug ha» been attempt- 
ed i if our Commanders have not done iU, and hkvc oBfy 
done r>oihiogi if they hive avoided Lo[i by avoiding I>io- 
gcr, we may lurely enquire 10 whom fuch froceediagi %n 
to be in puttd, whether the Defeat uf our Dcligni is 10 be 
charged u|-on the Strength ol the Enemy, or IbcCowaidicc 
of uui Ofiii.crk ; or wjiethcr tli« Joaftivicy and appaiest' 
Nculraliiy ci bar Forces is occkfiontd by ihe Neghgcbcc-of 
our Admirals, or the Inefolutlon of our own Mjiiiilry. 

* TTere have been, Sir, many Inci^cnu in tbefe two !aft 
Ycan. of which the Examination can be of very tittle Ad> 
vaiicige to the Spniardt 1 I do not know what pemirioui 
Intelligence thry e^n glean Irom an Enquiry into the Rc^ 
foiu for wi.icli H«ddock'i Fleet was divided, and Ogle &at 
lu the Defence of Miaoica* ox for wlti^b be aUenvtrdf 
tcturncd. 

* Nor an I conceive that any Advantage, except that of 
Mernmentund DiveiCon, can bcthigwn imo the Handa of 
Our Cncmicir tho* we flioulJ leriuuHy enquire tetowhat 00 
Man U* y<tf(Cteodcd 10 unJcnUnd, the wood«ful tkape 




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1 



Iroa, A Tnnrjfl'ott on wtilch ive had Annnrt,Ge^ 
w(h (hit Admiraiion which Ignorance '' '"!¥*• 
'which « nuy dk be improper at Icngtli C'VNiJ 
io cubic Oft to rafon. 

■ Ilia h an A^ir perhaps murh better undcritond by mir 
ftacMia thin by ojrlelves, and rarely we cannot therefore 
■Aild of infKRiin|> iheiD of it; At kitll 6iKe the FKxt 
ifMg fivrt likilcd out ind iert tbeir Ctult, we can li»d y 
: '-. oar En({uiriek by tbe t-Var of difcovering oar 

<.-e it bribe nnconEcllBble Rigbt of the Houle 
::& .If Candud of public .A&irs, which J luppofa 

kmrcriy be denied, ttti> Mmion cannot be rrjeiXcd si 
bafafoimbie. nor c«n the Papen be refufed without mcreaf. 
; l]Mfe &ifpkioa( whictt already are too prtvalent througk- 
. th« f<J4iton. 
Nor in4ft<i, far oar owo Uke%. ought we todeUy tbit 
uy longer, leli b^ biving langa^J wjthoutbcing 
ittablc, tbe Minitler IbouM (\3tm a I'tcfcription againit 
ite^e, ind in Time tell nt in plain Terms thai we are 
im.jnd that we are noetic preiume to cany onrExa- 
laa, however foteoiD and iniporlaoi they may contJ* 
to appear, further than be (hr.ll be plealed to permit i 
that wK4(ever miy be the Op'nion ol (He People that 
one 01, or whatever antient C&imi ive may plead to 
llmiiy. •« are now to confidf^r ourfelven only as the 
I af the Nation, and the I'AnegyriDt of tbe CourL' 

Mr. Horatio Walpo^c. V 



»r iBU| 



iise 



lonot be denied to be reafonahV that all thole Papers 
be laid bcfc»e the lloole which can be comtnutiica;ed ^[j) Y*^*?'** 

Injiwy to tbe Public. Of this Number we may '"^ 

iBugine the Ordert Tent to the Admiral), in which llic 
oi rneir Oepnnorc is fixed, arvd many others which 
may be cf Ufe (o inform the Houle, butcannm enable the 
Cocaiy to judge either of oar Foice, or our Ocilgni 

• Hot ft ifc evident thit there muH be otbcrj included fn 
Ab Motioti. whKh ou/ Rtgard for the Sjcccfi of the War. 
aad the Profiterity of oor Country, ought to determine oi to 
cooceal. ana fuch ai are never expoft^ by any AdtDinjflra- 
On i u i* therefore proper to Ibsit tbe Addrefs to Pipcts at a 
ocfBln kind, or a rerrair. I>atr, which may be coafiiiered by 
cW Hoafe wiihom Benefit to our Enctniet, and for the Exz- 
BiiuMitol whiciia Oayormowillbcmortthasrdfficicoc ' 



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Mr Pulteney * ' know not what Number of Papers the Witaom c( 
' thr AdminiilratioD will allow lu, but, if we jadge by tbi 
Time propofed to be fpent in ExuniDition, we flail Mtfat 
diflrafied with a great Diver£(y orSubjeAsj IntelligcM 
will be very penurioufly dealt oar^ and if we fubmit to tkar 
Choice of the Writings, which Ihall be laid beibre ui, na 
Enquiry will probably end without any Difcoveries tiak 
either by our Epcmies, orourfelvct. 

* But, 1 hope. Sir, we Ihall not be fo cheaply ratiafieil,H 
expofed by the Fear of one Enemy, to the Infolence of u- 
other. I hope we fliall refolutely continue our Demaadsof 
Information, while a fmgle Line is concealed, from which 
any Light can be cxpefled. 

* There may indeed be Circumftances in which oor Tkr 
m^nds, however loud, wiil necefTaTily be vain. It ii aH 
jmpoHible that we may fufped tbofe Tranfa&ions of d^ 
An, and fccrec Ccncrivance, which have been the Ctak- 
quences of mere Indo'encc, and Want of Confidezadol. 
Our gieut Miniflers have been, perhaps, only doing nothia^ 
while we have imagined that they were working oat « 
Sight. 

' Milled, Sir, by this Notion, we may call for the Oidep 
that have been difpaiched in thefe two U& Years, whea fM^ 
haps our Secretsri^^ of State have been fattening ob ttdlf' 
Salaries, without Employmen t, and have llept uithout C^lt 
and without Curioficy, while we have been congiatolltim 
ourfeives upon their Vigilance for our Prefervation. 

* Or if O.ders have been given, it is to be co.Bfidaldl(| 
that the End of infpefling Orders is to compare them lri# 
the Conduifl of the Admirals to whom they were dircfillf- 
from this Comparifon I doubt not but many Gentbeaioi 
expefi uncommon Difcoveries ; but to check all UDreafoi^l|r' 
Hopes before they have taken PcfTcfiion of their Hearts,. fijjrj 
unrcafon^ble Hopes are the Parents of Difappointmeoi^'ti 
think it proper to remind them, that to draw any Coa(|i|i i 
ftons from the Orders, it is neceJTary to nnderftand thCB. 

' This Confideration alone is fufficient to reprefi th9 , 
dour of Enquiry, for every Man that has had Oppottiuii 
of knowing the wonderful AccompIiHiments of our Mr mi 
Jtry, the Depth of their Defigns, the Subtitcy of their 8^$)'^ 
tagcms, and the Ctofenefa of their Reafoning, will • 
conceive it probable that they might fend fuch Ordei. . 
none but themfelves could underAand ; and what then willl 
(he f onfeguence of ouridle Curiofity, but, that we mj \m k« 



\ iuD a Libyrintli of endlefs Conjcftures ? For we have long Anno 14, Geo. 

I igo found, that no Exptanatioos afe to be expelled, and II. 17 40- 

[ Uit ojr M'lnirtry are too wife to difcover their Secrets to 1/%'''\J 

I their Enemies. 

■ Lti us, therefore, examine the naked Fa£ls, which have 
fitllu withia our Obferrationiand endeavour to inform our- 
fe/m of the Meaning of thefe fecret Orders by the Execution 
of :hf m. 

■ Admiral <^le was dirpatched from Haddock's Fleet to 
prated Minorca, and in his Abfencc the SpaniOi Squadron 
failed away. Perhaps he was ordered to watch Ferrol and Mi- 
loica at the Ume time, and not underllanding how that was 

I Icbe daoe, neglcAed what was to be done, neg!c£led one 

' part of his Charge by an Attention to the other ; as a Watch- 
nan who fliould be employed to gu^rd at once the Bank in 
London and the Treafury in WcHminfler. 
* Adoitral Norris, Sir, failed lately forth, I fuppofe in pur- 

i (uKc of Orderf, with a very formidable Fleet, and after 
hiring loft Sight for feme Days of the Britifh Coall, failed 
back again with great Preci^it.iiion. Whether his Orders, 
were only to laii forth, or whether when he epcamired them 
farther he couJd not underlland tlicm. I pretend not to deter- 
mine : bat it may rcafonably be imagined that his Orders • 
were of the fame kind with thofe of our other Admirals, be- 
caofe they produced the hnie Con(ie(]uencc<i. 

' I have been told that formerly our Commanders were 
•rdered to burn, link, and dedroy ; and that in thofe Times 
if Wis not uncommon for a Britifh Admiral to do much Mil- 
cUef w cb a Arong Fl?et : but it is evidrni that the Stile is 
fiooecbangcd, 'or Admirals are now very Inoffenfive, and 
p oat only to come back. I therefore think the Motion 
highly necelDry. andfuch as ougtit to be complied with.' 

Admiral Norris. 

Sia. 

' I am not cosfcioin, that my Conduft in any Part of my Admiral 
IJfehasnpofed mctobc juflly treated with Contempt ai^Monis. 
Uicale, and what I have not deferved I will not bear. 

' If any Gentleman in this Houfecan accufe me of having 
*^kfled my Daty or deferted ic, lee him not fpare Infutts or 
'■■cAivei, let him now expofe my Cowardice or my Oire- 
((ftefs, kc him prove me unworthy of IVull or of Command. 

* Batny own Confcience acquits me, and I defy any Man, 
iBpradoce and fapport his Accufatioo ; nor can you. Sir, * 
"to have ihu contempiuoufly treated me, alledge any Th ing 

againlk 



* jUirtffii% bimfilf t» Mr. Pa/t^nej. 



i 



(4^) 

Annoi4,Geo againit me that may juflify your Negled of Deceacj; M 

II J740- you have rranfgreflcd the Rules of t)eceiiC7 is the fofteft Ctr 

i/'V~^ fure that your Behaviour admit!, and I think it may, wid 

equal Propriety, be aflerted, that you bxn iMrolun the Lm 

of Juflice." 

Mr. Pulteney. 

6lK, 

Will. Ta'te. ' I Ihall fubmit to you, and all who hear me, Whctherl 
ney^Kjqi have treated the honoarabte Gentleoian's Name with Uf 
contemptuous Freedom of Speech. The ufcal Mctlw' 
of mentioning an Expedition, is that of naming the Cini- 
mander, who is not thereby neceflarily included in the Oa- 
fure of an uofuccersful Attempt and I am very far fram cal- 
ling his Courage, and Capacity into QuefUon., 

* Not that ] Oiall ever think it neceuary to make an Apo- 
logy for expreCmg my Sentiments with Freedom aa a Mea- 
ber of this Houfe, in which I fhall always fpeak whatt 
think, and in what Manner it ihall appear to me moft proper ; 
nor fhall I fear to repeat without Doors what I (ay here.' 

Sir Robert Walpole. 

SlK, 

Sir Robert ' As I am nor acquainted with any Meafores purfiied ly 

Val|x>le. the Adminillration which it is their particular Intcrcft If 

conceal, I am defrous that all Papers Ihould bejaid be|bR 

the Houfe which will not nffard our Enemies any Opam- 

(unity of obviating our Defigns. 

* What NeceiSty there it for this Addrefs, I cannot iMdMf 
difcover.becaufe I know not any Foundation for SaQiflciBB 
of either Negligence or I'reachery, which have be<u b|ji| 
infmuated in this Debate. 

* Nor are the Miniflry, however ludicroufly their Abililia 
have been treated, afraid of difcovering their Ignoranei, b - 
laying before the Houfe the Orders which they have tjtwm 
to our Admirals, Orders of which they are far from Joi^^m 
that they will appear, upon a candid Examination, ndhgS 
and proper. 

* The chief Objeftion to this Motion arifes from ka'Qll^ 
feafonablenefs, and the Neceflity which it will prochlqf '^ 
afligning to a fruitlefs Enquiry thofe Hours that ttOfW- 
more ufefuJy employed.' « . 

Mr. Pit. ' - 

Silt, 



Mr. Fir. 



* It is my Opinton.thatourTimcca'nnotbemorfttftfiij^ 
employed during a War, than cxamioing how it ^a boM 



, aid intliog th< Degree of Con6<lcnce ihit may Anno n. Geo 
W txftfiti in ibolc to whoTeCdtc ire catiollcci iNir Rcpuu- ^^ "-^ 
Mfti^Mr Foruinet, aixl our L'ves. K.^'y^\^ 

• TWrc ii not any Knquir^, Sir, of more Importaace ilian 
ttni u ii nui A <.^llioa aboui an unccrUtii Privilege, or a 
Ln. libicb iftound inconvenient majr ttcraftcr be repeated | 
MUCftuMi to <<(iininc whether it i) probibte (h.u we Dull 
•reteme our i -: aiiJ our Indepcndar.cr, oi'whecbcr 
<^ Kic finkjr '. icAion lo a lurcign Power. 

• But '. •r.Si:, will proJuce njgrcjii lalataMiaa, 
l^oic w> iuQ iteX'imincJ.zre ^^Ijwed to MeH ib« 
vidcoce. for what Accuuiic will tliry exhiOlt but fuch ll 

Me ofienalreiJ}r been aid before U5, and fuK.ti a»ttiCy now 
tftir without Concerr. Account^ otjfcure and rJlacioOi, 
InpcrWt jndcucfukd j from vWkU nudiinccAii be learned i 
umI whicJiua orrercaiulf (tie MinJlUf tu Prtiife, tha'chcy 

I Buy icttta him from PuitiQimi;nt.* 
Si 1. 
• ! - ^^J<oE(hnt no man engaged io the Adminillr* ^^i^- *«'*^"**- 
pen. be krcened from the nioit iigoroiu Enquiry, 

•r w<..h; .liter (o exhibit the Papers 4 MocncBC jar any 
ot^r Rcifoa than Kit Regard for the Public. 

• I am caiihJcni. ibat nutbing could (o much conttibate 
10 adnnce the juriicubr and djllir.it Inicccilof (hcMimllry 
i "' -fjlicaiion of all the Wniirgi that relate to the pit- 

r, by which ic would iDcunicfldbly appear, that no- 

tutbcTD umiited thauouid ptomoie our Succe^^ tltac 

__ Ruindcri have been fcnt out wich Orders loitt with 

fltnoft' Vigour, and ilut our Prepar4tioni have not been 

4ifpro;v3TtionrJ to the Ituporttincc of our Defi^oi. 

• ; that no former Mioidry have given 
pe>;. heir 'Aral for the public Imereil, or have 
■•R iiead4;y pariued the rooll proper Alcafurct by which tc 
w|^ be adMored. 

• 1 aot noc indeed certain ibac thofe who now call To loudly 
di iaittaa^tioa would be prevailed on by any Degree of 
Irldcaee to {uipend tfaeir Ccnlure}. Tf'Cm. w)io ate cow 
tifatttficd, 1 (h'lt delpairof intiuetiC'Dg bf Rearui) or Tclli- 
■■ey : for ihey iecm to enquire cr'y to condemn ; oor w 
<Ui Uotioa perikap made d much for the fake of obtaining 
HrBMioo. a* of karntflingthe Mintlliy wuii Delaya and 
^cadJof AfUui of greater JmporisncT-' 




Obdsfcd u Addrefi to Hii Msjefly, fct Copiei of the 

Lciteri 




• ( 48 ) 

Anno i4,Gro Letttn written lo nod recctrcd from the Admiralt, Haddock 
M_J740- aotl Ogle, in ij J9and 1740. to belaid bcfurr ihem. 
""^'^ Alio fcr 1 t'ypy of !lie Rcafoni frnt b/ ArTniral Caven* 

diOi, in I'unuance a/ an Order T'Om th« Admiralty, OAobcr 
the 12th. 17^0, thai had rrtirdcd the failing of Sir Chala^ 
ncrOglc'sSquadron. fo much bej-ond Expra^tion. 

AUo for a Copy of the Rcafoni tranlmit:cd by Sir Clu- 
lonrr Ogle, in Purfuftnce of an Order from the Duke of 
Newcalilc. Oflobcr the 23d, 1740, ihat did prevcot him 
from failing puifumi to hi* repeated Ordcri (or thut Pur- 
polc i aod pitticalnrly to ttiofc f«nt him by the Commif- 
fioners ol the Admiralty, on the i4ihof Oclober, 174O. 

Heard Countcl farther on the Merits of the Readirg 
Elcflion. and fevenl Wiincffei were exmnined j and the 
ftv-loluiionof the rioufc of the 4th of December, intb«7ih 
of Queen Anne wat read, whereby it was relolvrd. That 
fuch Perfonj as hud within iwo Years luR received Ken- 
dnU('i (.'bariiy. or any other annoal Charity, dittributed in 
|Ne fjid Borough, bad not a Right to vole in EtcAioni of 
BurgeiTct m (rrve in Pailinmentfor the titd Borough. 

1 he 27th. Rc3d 3 6rft time, a BiU for liccnfing the Im- 
portation of Victual from Ireland, and other Parci beyond 
the Seal into Scotland, In Time of Ocaiih and Sir-irciiy. 

Rr.-ri J thirJ time, and paiTed the Bill lo amend the Law 
concerning common Recoveries ; and lo explain and anend 
•n A& l^th o£ Kirg Charles II. for Prevention of Fnodl 
and Perjuiies, fo far ai the fame relates to KlUtes, prr autrr 
fifi oidcred it to the Lonlt, 

Dehireontl.c ^^^^^ ' ^^^ t'™^< ' * ^i" ^"^^ *^^ Encouragement and Ib« 
t««r]d Rrtd. cte:)fc cf Seamen, and for the better and fpecdicr manniag 
■T**'' 'i**B *"" ^'^jcly's Meet. And a Motion bctcg made for in be. 
^ *'■*''* '■ ing read a frcoodtime, it occafioned ibc following Debate. 

Mr, 



* The HtaJi tf tbt faii BiU v/r/ ai fttlav:* : ** Th^ 
tvtrj Ml SfiimaB if.'h Jbalif-ave tfomntmritf ffrvtJmitmr^ 
ihf Ruyit !^avj ikt Sptttt tf Tftl't, firall hf ttitititd la 

tt>t ytfij PiMjim rf , aa/i/ bt Jbail bi ^rwidtd 

/>'/• tbe Rtjal H J^iU/ fir Sfamn. Ti'at ttt ihjvw rf 
tvety Stmmaa^ latdif the Otjtttuf a ITarramt wr C*mmtfi»m- 
C^ttr, *.*» ruttTfJfoittntatih, mufi'.-ai tUltd n- Jrfifcmtd im 
tot Sfrvhr. Jhall rttti-ut m Sam rf Msniy, rfmivatimt t* Pat 
tear'i ff^agei rf fiith Sruman *tf^t lit ^tfiuti rf Ttmn^ 
IS(. fi^Ii, u^m P' ' ' Jtiair, tjf:^ Mt H'arrantJ ts lit 

CaaH<3l>!ts, WajU 19 f^nth^ bf Day er Js'iiht, Jmr 

till f suit Sramtw «r titaJariB^ mti ^ jkaii vnihdram tr na> 



(49 ) 



Anno 14, Gh).' 
it. l7^/>. 



Mr GtbboQ, t 

• I lUiK httn iJwajri Woght thil rhf diftinguifhlng Feli Mr Gibbon 
Cy af ibii Nilion ii general Liberty. Librrty n.5t conliijci lJ<b»'c 
cki ki^htlX Cbfic* of Men. but diffulcd thro' the whole **"^''™' 
of (be ppnplc: For the PrclrrVatiun of ihit^nur An- 
ha»e Sruggfnf in every Age; anJ *or this onlj' are 
V»u Vlf. H [be 



^CdmfmiUj, i^t. JtaU hnH^fuch Pfrfimj a, thnfiallof- 

juh Zt^^ta «r Sttfjaftn^-mfn, jImU taaft thtm /« h/ lifimmJ 

mr tv tht ferfom af}*t»u4 U rtttivt mmi nnJm.1 thtm, to If 

tmwpiJ «« hh Mmjt/iyi Sta Srrviet. That ia KniJn^ futh 

/rvnf/ ^MfY^ it foii! he /aivfai fir fl/e jttii O^'eri mf~ 

fntrJ im makt /W fantr. ta tnUr eirf Hajifi •vuhtre ihtj fiall 

/t^,-: -imtm a tt t»u.:taUd\ amd if EiiraiKt ht mt 

*imdi-. -J item. th.'M i!t firtt tftntht D««n tf futh 

Ib^, *'* t^Mf tt mtik* Jmik Sturtb Viat /mhCen^aife}^ 

tfr. Jkmii a/fftar tt/nri tht /aid ynfliets, (Jtt. and giif A(- 

3«cf •'' tht kMtemlmi »(' il't ttJpeSivt l¥'a*ranfi and Ptt- 

aft$ t* fftfm JiifSrd\ amd tli ft'd JuJUetj ^all i>t tmpvw. 

r*jtt» f**'fi tbtwi f*f attj h'-g'f^, Cfl'/ffM'rtiw^, 9r tnhtr Of. 

p9tt m fee ^frrarmanr' 9f bit Mejtfiyi Sfr^'icfS in flit Pre- 

tf^. Ihat I >, ar uhrr O^eer, fhail bavt at 

t tlnasrd fir r -^ and fiCuriK^ fucb Seamtm. Thar 

v^tofT J^U frtf^nt tt horb«ar »f naitataay fitth Sfamaa, 

m mtffititr d» avf tbim^ U iiadtr or ftufiratr the Z*anh. tr 

mUt oMf Secmsa tt rm dw«y frtm Ait Cci),fitA*r, fgr rwry 

pd Q^Kt J»aU Vfat ikt Jujften 

if tht Pta.t, iZ/{. J^aJJ rrhihii am Acrft tf lb.- Pi'am/i tf 

l*r f. -.' ""ftirj hrtmfht hfftrr thtm, tvtih the P/»tt tvhtrt, 

fit 1 a»y tct Oj^,'fri hf itfAew 'uch Prrfmt imrt 

e^d tf thr CtiJwiitri tt ivvvm fmh Pfrfini '■.itrt 
That a Rt^fifr fhaiihi afj^muJ ta be kfpt i» /6* 
m Adrntf^/r^Opif, whfrf the Nam/t af rvtfj Ptr/on 
fimfnfid ^atl ht eMtrtd, and tht Shif thty turrt to ftrve 
%^at _(£ ''^ptar if ftuh Ptrfa -xxai aduaUi tnttrtd 

■ te JWiv : :tr, and tmrrnmej tn the fame. Tlat tht 

My^f.d AM tte f/Jl Vtc af Its frtffit Majfj)\ . ftr ercou- 
«1»| S«UMn K> tnKt into his Mjjcfty't S*Tvtce. tuhtrtfy 
*«MBt em uhe Jkid Seri'ire <an hi arrififd fir n Drht temder 
Ml Pan p far tah Eftit, and he in Fartt tt tht iungdmm 
tfMndtfftm hhnlfihtt$tb» 1741. 




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Anno 14. Gen the prefent Burden of Taiccs born without Sedition, and al- 
'^ '74"- moil without Compiniar. Whilewe pn-uiic. or fincy that 
^^"tT^^ we preicrvf, our Liberty, we luok withcuc Lr.vy on the 
Power, the WVilih. and Proi'pcrity of the Slaves of arbi- 
triiry Monarchs. We account no Mun pro.'perous whofe 
HappinelV does notdepti'd upon hh own Condufl, and Ihculd 
think it Fo) y to heap Wealth together, which niighc be 
taken away without our Conient. For fear of lofir.g this 
great Privilege, we have endeavoured, at an imm^nfe Fx- 
pence, to prevent the enaimous Increale of any foreign 
Potter, by which we migr.t in Time be fwjUowed up, and 
rtduci:d to the Idine StJte wi:h tlic Province*: on the Conti- 
rent. To thi^ End we niife Armies and bui'd l-iceti, and 
poar into ihc public 1'ie:ifury the Produce of our Lucds, 
and the (Jiiin of cur Commerce. But to wiul Purpofe are 
Our Liibouis, our Dangrn, and our Expenccs to obviate the 
Defigns ot lorcign Ambition, if we lutFcr Slavery to fteat 
upon us in the rorm of Lsm, and impair our Liberties by 
tlie Means empluyed (odifkiid it. 

* Jf till; only Ule of Armiti and Fleets be tofecure Free- 
dom and I niie pendency, nothing furcly can be more ab^'urd 
than [o raileihem by Metho-s ot Oppreffion and Violei.ce; 
nothing can be weaker ttian to kiid .Men to fght for that 
l^ibtirty., of uhich we have deprived tbeni. 

* That the Bill noiv bifore us reduces Multitudes of oar 
Fellow Subj-'fls to the Milcricscf Slavery, to the Malice of 
private, lurking Iriformers, and the hatcfii! Infiilts of pet^ 
.AiiChcrity inuii appear to every Man that hears it. It cod- 
dcnins tho e who have dedicated their Lives to the moJl 
uitfui Employment, and walled their Strength in the moll 
important Service of their Country, to be hunted like Beatta 
ot Prey, or like Murderer? ;:rid Felons, whom a is the com- 
mon Interelt of M-inkii.d to fearch out and to deHroy, 

* Let any Man, Sir, or.cc be c>.Iled a Seaman, let any 
Alan once become the Objed ct' public Rclcncment, by hav- 
ing ccntribjted to the \> calih and Honour of his Country, 
and at lail, from We^rinefs of Labour, Sitiety of Profit, or 
fear of Oppreiiion, incline to fpeud [he reft of his I.ile ia 
Peace, the Hue and Cr> ihiU be raifed againU him. Strata* 
gems (hall be contrived to entrap, or \'ij!ence employed to 
conllrain him : he (hall be purfued by tlie Officers of Jaftice, 
hh Friends lhi:I be ob'iged to betray him, and the Houf^ 
Lroke open at Midnight that fliali afford him Shelter. 

■ if this be the Condition to which any Mao is expofed 
by the Laws of Uritain, he may furely be dilpenfed froa. 
tijzarding his Lil'e in their Dcflocci for what Alwncica 



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can te m%de in tlieni, by whicn iiis Condi:ion will become Anno i^. Ceo. 

wone? il. 1740. 

' If any particular Body of Men be marked ou: by the V.^v'N^ 
Lx^ifltiar*. :>ii Ilardfliips like thclV, will nu. -very onr thit 
can cou.e im Employment, liit lii'iif^-lf in ionit ')tiier Ciafs? 
Aail every \i.in who has been mreidv ic unhappy as to 
hxK engaged himtL-lf in tins t'rofeilion, leek fur better 
T/caUDcnt in .1 lo.e'gn Lind i 

• There are indtrii, Sir.-.'iiie Trconveniences ;.i!"i:-,gfrorti 
thu Bj'>l. wiiicli uiil not b> con:'.ed to tnc St mci. ^ tlie 
Powrr g'-initJ to Officer; to (t-nc a fafpcftcd, t;.;tt is. r.ny 
Houfe Mrbich thc;y ihj.l be plci.-i to mark out, m iv affl-ct 
every M>'dw1)0 h .a bt-cn lo i.npniJentaii CoofT-nd tue Cun- 
fable of hit Parilh, as nc m.iy revenge the Injjry by a be. 
cliration oi Surpicion, and confcqucntly by a nocm. nal ViiCt 
It the Hc:id of his /ilhll'ir.ts. 

■ Norii this. Sir, lue moli afR nfive Part of this Bill ; one 
Cliofe of it tends to weaken tt.c mull facred T>es of iocicty, 
to make not on'y fncndly Offices, buc filial and conjugal 
Tcnderneff punilhibie by Law. 

* The PeD.1l C:aule. by which every one U furbitiden ;o 
conceal a S^^m^n wiil)[>ut Exception of particular Kc.if»n 
or Relation, is, Jn my Opinion, Sir, the ucmoll Stretch of 
Tynony. Let m dxtil' a while upan it, and fuppofe a Son 
condcnined as & Criminal for ibelc^ring his Father; Ictus 
fuppofe a Wite dnig'^ed thro* tne In'okncc of <i Crowd, and, 
ailed witb all the Intimyof a FroUitute, to receive Sntence 
cf Punifhment for rcfi:firg to betray her Hufb:tnd. I'o 
ikink on Inch Scenes as thei'c, excites fndignatiun ; and for 
ny Pare I Ihall oppofe ;:d/ Uil! of this kind, Iclt the Lxecu- 
Boa of it thould tire the Nation to Rcbelhon. 

Mr. Horatio Walpole. 

Sir. 

. ' If any Severities are prnpofcd by this BiM. or any aTc », u ..■ 
.Unas 01 lerruror \ lolence prc.cno' .1, it ii.ull be cOiif-ir.a vV'aloic 
tkit they ran be ji'lblied by nothing but Ntccility, and I 
kope thufe who (h:ill fpe.ik in their \'' .iication, are not 
khafiefledby the Seme of ihcii), timuj^h they arc n.orc 
QOTioc'd how much the prefcnt Scace of our Affairs rci^jiics 
fath Methods than thole tint Ctp^'o!c ihem. 

' How much of the Power of this Nai'on confiils In our 
rittti, and how ufelefs Fleen are withojt Seimr-n, I .iiii not 
toprore. Nor is it Sir, muc!i Icfs appirent, th^t ii -men 
lie not to be procured by the comm&n Metitod.'', m \::in- 
ben fuffi.ient for our prelient Armimcnti, and Uut tiKieiuiB 
tec others mutt be Ipeedijv contrived. 

H 2 . It 



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14, Geo 
II 1740. 



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• Ii will be Mid Sir, to expeft, that 1 little Time 
reconcile them to llic Seivice, aiid th:it our .Ship& will (000 
be mann'd with Voluntien ; for the Fleets have uken iwijr 
(och Numben, that tSere remain, perhaps, not more thao 
Five Thcufind in Britain : who, though they (hcmM adembtc 
St the Call uf our (Junimandcri, would be able to foppiy do 
fbnni(bble Navy. 

' And that « N»Ty of oncomtnoB Strtngtb Ji neeefliry 
for the Honour anil Suppon of Great Briisin on thii Oca- 
bon, no Mnn can doubt : ivhen he hat been informed of wbtl 
J have tcccived from undoubted InteMigence, that s ncijih* 
bouriug Power, rquallvtobedreided for iti AfflbitioniAtTRl 
Sireogtn, it ouw equipping zo Shipi of the Line, Cor wbick 
no Apparent Rexfon ean be given, nor any irore ptofaiblc^ 
than that they ate (JcGgn'd to tnicrnipi (he Profecution of ibe 
War. Such Dangers nrghivindiaitc ut in the Ufc ofTJoIeK 
and compulfivc Mctbodi 0! railing Korce*. but none are ia 
reality tnienrtnl or propofe^l, mare (evere than ihofe which 
wctc prefcrilxd by an AA pnffcd in the Fourth of Qncea 
j^noc, at a 'lime wlrni tii? Coancili of ihc Nation were di* 
tcArd by Men whom we cannot eafily lulpetl of an Eaten.ioa 
to injure Libery. 

* Tbatthe Condicion of Seamen will by thii AA be made 
left independent than that ofocliets, and the Mclhodi of 
manning the Fleet have a more epprclTivr and arbitrary 
Form than thoteby which the Land-Service is fu^^Iied, tt doc 
to be dcti>'d; but let it be reiucmbred. Sir, th.-il tho(e Itt* 
conveniences are baUne'd by the Rewai^lt propofcd, by ibe 
liberal Provifinn) mide fur thofe whom the Chance of War 
ftiall dibble from iupporttng thrmklves, and the Eafe uti 
Plenty to whkh they are entitled, wtiu fliiil grow oM 
the Sea Service. 



Mr, Campbell. 
'Si a. 



I 



Ur.CunpbeH. ' ' know not the Import of the Term SUveryt If 9 
oneani any Sate different from that wiih which Seames trc 
Ihreatncd by the Bill Krfore u<. If to tofe the Power of 
Choice, be to fiil inro Stivcry. every Se3niao,from theiottaai 
this Bill palTei. becomes a Sl.<ve{ lor he will not only bc 
excluded from the Choice of his Courfe of Life, which yet 
every Freemarj mui! ncccfljrily enjoy, b« from tL< Power 
of deierminingwhat Miller he wiliicrve. 

■ A Sailor, Sir, after having perhapi willingly ntcrcd 
bimfclf, ia either frighted away by ihc Opprcffion of hlA 
Officers or alloreil intothe £=rvifc of Meictianu by Profpad 
of Adrantage i but aocwithiUnding hit Apprthctilioaa oa 

tite 



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one Side, and his Hopes od the other, he is to be Anno 14, Cto. 
by Violence, aod condrmncd wilhout a Crime toihac "- '740- 
inditioo which he drradg and abhors. V./"'^^^^ 

* Nor ii be ooly dcptivcd of that Tranquillity ind Con* 
Mat whidl every Man propores at the Hod of his Laboura, 
by (he Dread of OpprclTion, or of ihe Penalties incurred by 
endeavouring to etc^pe it, but hdebarr'd from the AffitUnce 

I of bii keUt'ont, and the kind Offices oF hii Frieodi : he it 
Aripp'd at oucr of every thing (b.> makes Life valuable. 
He itdragg'd 10 Tyranny Aod HardOi;pi. be is puni(hed for 
ci>dcavoaring to avoid tbcm, and tnvolrctin ihel'.inieMirery 
with himfi-If, any Friend nhuin Charity or Gratitude StaU 
pro(ii[>t to ptncdt ^iIn 

* To infer trom the Snrcity of Seamen, that fuch Severi- 
< del are ocCciDry. ii to canfult nothing but tint Lufl of Oo' 
I minion by whKh Men are often incited to ufe violent Mea- 

fures, lett they fhou!''. Item lo mike too great Conceifioni 
by S>jf:ncl& and Mo<ierj|ioa. The Scarcity of Se&nei), if 
fuch there be, mull be imputed to the Haidlhipi to which 
h they are dow expolcu, and it fcems not very likely, when 
I lefi Injuriei hive dimiiiiQitd their Numbcri, that greater 
will increafe them. 

* Sir, Men have been loni; dircouragM from entering into 
the Ships of Wit, by everyl^lethod chaicoukl be made UfC 
of to difgun and offend them; Opprcflions and Ex^Aiona 
have been too frequent amont; the Officers ; Mock-Expedi- 
tions have raifed their Expttlations onlv to deceive rhcm, 
and fuddcn Difchargei at Plao 1 remote noin Opponunitici 
of Entpioytncat, have plung't' them into Dillrefi, and re- 
duc'd them to Beggary. Surc>y when Men have been thus 
neaird. ic it no Cniae to decline a Submiflinn to Cruelty, 

' Dor ought they to be punifh'c for that DctcditioD of tho 
Service which iiprodoc'd only by (be CondoA of other*. 

^ Mr. Cluaerbuck. 

^ * At the Qutrflion is ni« at pt rfent whether the Bi'I ftvall )^, Chtter- 

ef( or whether it (h.il, be read r fccond rime, J ihink any buijt* 
iliquifUiotis upon the Methods jproiHilcd in u unreifoDable ' 

and fuperflnoui, and (hall ihcrcloi e not it prcfcnt either offer 
or anlwei Objcfliom. B»t if there be what no Gentleman 
ha« denied, a NccciDty ot finding out lomc Method oftnan- 
ning the Fleet, 1 conceive that c very Scnemcfor thai End 
defervei to be confider'd : hir by confidering and even re< 
jeAing bad Meaforet, we approv k nearer to the Difcovery 
of good onei. 

* Od fuch Occifioni ai thii^ -SiTf the noil rxpeditioot 

Method 



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Anno »4) G«> Method of Procfeding is undoabtedly the bell i and ai it » 
";'740- leftVdious to amend an Imperfeft Bill than to draw up « 
-^^^^^ new ont. it will be right od confider this in the regular 
Way: wv may then rejefl fuch Ciaufes as cannot be ap- 
proved, atid fubltitute others which fluU be luggeUed, lefa 
liable to ObjedioDS. 

The Bi!I \VM onler'd to be read the Second Time, and to 
be printed for the Ufe of the Members, that it might be 
thoroughly examin'd and uoderAood. 

Rfad a 6rll time, a Bill for the better fecaring the Free- 
dom of Parliuments, by limiting che Number of Ofiicera 
in the Houfc of Commons. 

Read a firit Time, a Bill forfuppljirg the City of Gloa- 
cefler with frclh V>atcr. 

Heard (Jounfel farther on the Merits of the Reading 
Eleflion : and fevcrat Witncflcs wereexnmined in behalf of 
the Petitioner ; and the Counfiel for the Petitioner having 
fummed up their Evidence, and the Counfel for the fitting 
Member having been heard by way of Rt-ply ; the Counid 
on both Sides were directed to withdraw 

The aSth. Received Copies of r.ll Letrers written, or Re- 
prefrntations. or Applications made to the Office of Ordnance 
relating to Stores, Provifions, Ammunition, or other Necef* 
faries Tor the Ufe of the Fleet lately under the Command 
of Sir John Norris, 

Read a fifft time, a Bill to continne an A& fo; Relief of 
Debtors, wiih reipeA to the Imprironment of their Perlbos, 
and two fubfequent Ads for explaining and amending the 
(ame ; and alfo to continue an Ad for the free ImportaciM 
of Cochineal and Indico. 

Read a fecond time, a Bill to explain and amend mo AOt 
3d of King James I. Jor the Recovery of Small I>dKs,and 
fur the relieving of poor Debtors in London. 

Re id a firil time, a Bill for the better Prefcrvation of the 
public Road'' of that P^rt of Great Britain called England. 

In a Committee wrnt thro' the B<U for the more cafj 
Recovery (;f lm..ll Debts. 

The Z9tli. Rrceivcd an Account of the Expence of Vic- 
tualling his Majciiy's 1,-ind Forces feot on the ExpeditioB 
to America. 

Receiv^ a Copy of a Petition of the Levant Comptsj 
to his M;.jeity in Council, in this prelent Year 1740, with 
the Proceedings ihereou. 

Oedcred. that an Account be laid before thii Honfeos 
what Qujn-ties of Woo Irn. or other Goods, hmbeen 
nporteil from (Jrcat Bricim fgr twcnt/ Yean, ' ending ac 

CkriftttM 



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ehrlftmai lift, to RulSa, dillinguiftiing the feveral Specici, Anno i4,G»- 
tai their V'ulur. il- 1740. 

A^iced to the Report of Yefterday's Refotuiion 01 the 
Su^fly, viz. ReloWed, That lo.oool. be granted cowards 
iz.t ?u;'Fon of Greenwich Hoipi:.''.]. 

Ts» 4948I. 18s. 4d. be graoted for Out-peniioners of 
C.:e':(:m Ho pital. 

I'u.t lo.oool. be granted tovirtrdi the Maintenance of 
:he Bnrilh Korts and S^ttlemi-nts in Africa. 

1 DJE io,oool. be grunted for th= f^irther fettling and 
improvirg ine Lolonjr of Georgia: This laft Refolution 
»-3S : greed to after Debate, un a Divilion, Ayes 105, Noes 

Received a Petition of the Gentlemen, principal Traders, 
&c of the Town of LoUuinpton, in the County of Devon, 
C(jmp-«ining cf the Decay of the Woollen NfanufaClure, 
».::ch Eiie Petitioners attribute in great Meifure to the run- 
■ing of Wool; and prayirg relief Refolved, That this 
Hou:e wi'I, upon the jz;h of February, refolve itftlfintoa 
Csamittee uf ihe waole Houfe to conftder of the faid 
Pti:::on. 

Heard Coanfel further on the Merits of the Reading 
E'ilo.n, and examined fevcral Witneff. s, and produced 
Evidence, in order to jjftify the Votes of levera] Perfoni 
»'bo vo'ci for the fitting Member, and whom the Counlcl for 
its Peiiiioner had endeavoured to difqualify: Then the 
LouDle: on both Sided were dircchd to withdraw : Adjourn'd 
U.e rjr:r.er ilearmg to Febru:ir/ 9. 

Fit. ;'i. Ordcrtd, That the Thank? of this Houfe be 
given ly the ftcverend Dr. Mattnew Hutton, f ;r the S;r- 
non prc^ci;ed by him befjre tnis Houfe upon Friday laft 
ac St. Mirgaret'j, Weflminiler; and that be be defired to 
print the lame. 

Received a Peti:ion of the G raziers. Wool-growers 
Gentlemen. &c. concerned in Romney Marfli, in the County 
of Kent, and P.accs aajicetit, complaining of the conllant 
Deere >fe for 24 Vears pall of the Woollen Manufaftory, ia 
which time the Price of ihe lame has gradually fell from 
10I. to near 4I. the Pack; the Deo.y whereof has already 
leilened, iind mult very loon to a great Degree inevitably 
reduce ihe Value of vail Numbers of ElUtes in this King- 
dom ; and at the fame time carry immenfe Riches tothofe 
aeignbouring Countries, who have too fuccef^fully of late 
rJviii'd us m the Woollen tVUnufj£lure : That as the French 
CaiiBOt work up their own Wool into Clo:hs proper for 
lie foreign- Markets, without mixing one Pack of Britifli or 
Jjilh Wool w^ two of their owo; the Petitioners hope, if 



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14, Gtfo effcflual M*tli*)d9 could be found w prevent ilie Preach front 
II ij^o. IjAVinathc Wool ffom Great Britiinor Ifstand. thry wouU 
t/"'^'^J not f^or lh« fuiufe be ibic to andcrrri h;i Mt-jdly** SubjcAj 
in the lortJgii Mjiketi. Ai«I ftinbirr reprxUftting 10 1 
Hoafe. tbati Uw TO oblige liie Owneri of *H Wot-I ff' 
in Great Briuin or IteUnd. 10 regiller tiic (unr^ end 
permit it CO be conveyed from tbe Place of mi Growth to a&f 
AibcrPartof tnc Kingdom, but b}* Lind^Ca/nxge, ullUbe 
maau^urcd, fetiat- to the Pciiiioncrf tij be the mall likcif 
way to prevent tl>e KjiparLation of 'A ool out of ihvlc King* 
doaii I and therefore praying the Houfe to uke (he Pretaif* 
fei ioto CooftJcuiIoD, and give inch ReiicfM to the Htmie 
dull fctm meet. 

Ordered, 1'hat the Cud PeiidoD be referred to UlC Cooi' 
ini[iee, &c. 

Recflivrd Copies of Lectrn «nd Reports from the Can- 
niu of hii MkjfAy's Shini at Ifomc. ariLi irom Mr. WaL 
lace. Agtni fur the T«olI">«% relating tq (he Baifnefi of 
ih« MAteilali put into the ticdding, ruiniOted by ihc Coo 
tndortohis Mijclly'sShip*. 

Read a fecond time, a Bill for iTcmfing ihr rroportaticNI 
of ViAual from Ireland loScotlind in 1 Uue of fkaKity. 

Read afirll time, a Bill to prevent locoavcnicDcici acibag 
bjf DcUyiof Caiiles aficr lUuc jomBd. 

tnaje Then Mr. Sandra prefcnted a MotioB in Writing (0 
fcyMr Jandy* ■ddreffing hi* Majrtly to intorni them when the ftfggBe^ 
SuT'o? the '*"'**** Iniclligeoce, lh« the French aod Sptn.ih Squa* - 
Fiulco and roosfailed, which wu lecooded, as toIJowt, by \lr. W«U< — 
•finilb tleeu 5 , ^_ 

• The Informatioa now moved for, appears to mc I 
BCCCQary in our DcUbcrationt on tha CoodaA of the Wa 
that without it we can ooly conje^ure to the dtik, and « 
(aogteouircWa in ao incxincabie Liibyrimh. 

• It it well ItBown, that in W^r all Mottoni arc {■ 
great Degree to be rcguUtrd by thole of the CiKioy. an 
that iliricfoic oo Viztlancc it to be fpaied by wbicfa an 
Koow'cdge cm be guioed of thetr IMigni, nor any Method 
OBJued of cctrnnnnicacing them to thoie who have cbc 
icCtioa of the War. 

' 'A Minilliy may, in coaduAing military Operatioi 
difippoioi ibe Expcdxioni ot their Country, either t 
seglailing lopracorc lotdligcncc. or by failing to make a 
of thofe OpportunJtiei which ({jfonable Irfvimaiiun 
iala tkcir Power, and they m.iy, when their Oeftgni fii 
SMGcbj jttOify ihuilclvcs, by proving that tbcy were 



Mr. Walkr. 



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Ictt'Ugnce. which it wai rafonable to beUew,Annoi4.<:eo. 
^^^xiet iTiteliigcnce n-» not atuinablr, or thit they 'Lj'*'^' 
ale, howerer unfuccel^'uli^, of xll the Forcei (hit U^V^-' 
then be (mployc;!, and of «II the Advanug«s that 
tlMn In their PuiTcflion, 
Sat bow (h\.\ we judge of our Adminiftration, how fhitl 
ikaow what CoofiJcnce we ought to repofe in their Pru* 
sad Fidelity, and what MircnrriJgcs are to be attri- 
Co the Chiace of War, or fupcriar Force of our Eae.- 
U" we cannot be inrortncd with what Diligence ihey 
ivoor at Information, and how early they iuive Notice 
«f tbc Mocioat of the Enemy i 

Tht Siitt'ig. or rather Rfcapc of the Ferrol Squadron, 
lad i ~ - of the French Fleet, are the moll imponsne 

£wT- prcfentWar: ErentJ that threaten very dan. 

S-c icncci. na !cfi than Defcenti upon our BritiOi 

b . Canc)uc[l of our nominioni, the Slavery of 

««r KelWw-Sjbjed>, sod perhaps the Dellru£tion cf the 
hrvre Vrraon. who it fecure in the imagined Vigilance of 
iIm MbtrCaauDanders.stul tnay, ptrhnpiina few Days, (a 
fonoaaded by formidable Squadrons of dtffiifeiit 
i, and expnkcd to the Ataclc oi Forces to whKh bja 
P't<( K-an oo proportion. 
* ' ;)pc3r) more evident, than that we bad Op- 

fartui. .. cbfcTving.ac Icall, all the I'reptraiions of the 

Fr«Kb.. and of watching the Moment of their Deparnire ; 
md llut oar Force on tlie Coafi of Spain wai fafiicient to 
kmceofiasd their Fkeu for ever in their Harbaari, or to 
ksv* dcAroyed them at llietrlirfl Entrance into ihe open 
Seu t of which we may juAly enquire, why it wai not at> 
tiaptctl i bet OaW enquire to no Purpofe till we knew when 
cbry dcpaneJ, that we nuiv confider the State of our own 
F«ic««. aod whether our Hnemie; efcapcd by our Nrgli- 
pace. Ccwirrlicei or Wukoefi.' 

Ur. Winoingtoa. 

t t, 

« cannot deliberate upon Sjbjefti which wc doj^f, ^ 
Wtndcrftind i and (hat, ihertfore, no nrcrflary or urefulntngton.** 
hfamti'ion ought to be <lcnied tu the Houftr, I Ihall readily 
*te iS obfierTcat the fame time, that the Reputa* 

titt . uife would be very litijccoofultcd, in dennod-' 

il|inforiiutiao which canoot be given. 

• To addrefi hii MajcAy to inform ui of the Time at 
Mich ihtSqtudroiu of our Enemies failed, is to enquire of 
ka whac it ought to bt the higheft Cure of thole Princes 

V«i. VU. I to 




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. ( 58 ) 

Hi-rrM.Gco (0 conceal from him. »rd winch he can only know by K«r- 
IM740. jj,g spi« in their Privy Councils. 

^••^T^tm^ * And of wha: Imporancc is ii to rni^uire what Intelli- 
gence wai brought him, or when he received it, if ii ii>- 
pean that hit Intelligence muA be in iu uwn Dature uncer- 
lain Klul dubitabte. 

* Th>t they haMlefi their Ports, is now certJlin, bcc«i 
they luve been twice difcoverrd in different Paiti of tt 
World ; but ai we can now only (orm ConjeAureiof 
Defigns and CsurEes, fo, before ihey fsilei, it wis impoffibli 
to know, when they were folly equipped, or what Time 
W4S 6xed for their Depirture. It i» to be remembcfcd. that 
they furm Mcaftires, and make their Prcpantloni to their 
uwD IJomioioD*, and iheicfote have more Adtfantago TrMm 
concealing ihcir Scbcmr}, thaawc fromdifcovftiog then.* 

Mr. CHtpbell, 

Sm, 

>U.Cinp^U. • Thi» Motion, which has bcrn rcprefentcd aj gnrtafea' 
tbic and abfiitd. it, ia my Opinion, not oaty proper, but 
tmpottiat. 

• It is important, bccaule ttwill enable ut to judge upon 
fufiicienr Poiindacions, of the Conduft of the Mttiillty. who 
areccnlured by the Voice of the Nation, (or having been 
cither tlefcftive in Vigilance, or in Adivity; for having 
been ciihcr ignorant hy iheir own Fauh of the Defigrvi of 
the Cnemy, or perhdioufly pafiive ia pcrmitiing ihe Exccb- 
tiooof them. 

• I atn f^r from bcliering that fuch Iniclligence, as oar 
^lioiHry u exp<6ed to procure, tcquirci any uncKnmaa 
Subtilty, or any other Agcr.ti than arc altviyirmploj'rd 
every MiniAer, to tianfmit to them InforiDationt froiA for 
Count. Such, I am afraiJ, are atw>ayi hovering about 
Coniitluttont, and I know ootwliy our Mtniltert Ihuu.'i 
IcU diligent, or left fucccfiful than thofe cf other Piincei. 

' If, tbetefore, fuch loiciligeBCe intght have been cbnmcj, 
it wii criminal not to obuin iti anil if the Drpdtturc of 
the Spinilli Squadron was forefcen, it ougtit to be co^airnl, 
vby It M-ai Dot prevented a and if it wat only known whna 
it wss lootatelohindct ii from failing, why it wai not |>ar> 
fned, or why Saccours were not tmmciliitet/ difpitcbcu to 
AiminO Vcrooo. 

* Ait ihefc Queflioai can be only rrfotved, in ConCe^iMoco 
of the Information which hi^ Mijeliy fliall give usi and far 
WhiCbj it ii tbeicfort, ilk my Opiuoo, occcJuy to Pctiiioa. 



moa 

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(59) 
Ueaijr Ptlhim, tXqi ii. ij^o. 

• How (he Regency cnuld be inJbrmed oF the Fotcntion Mr. PvlKun. 
«f tic Spknurdito Inv* thdr Ports til) i( appeared by tbeir 

'.' :.>tr. or by wbac Mrans it ud be expe^ed that hit 
V (bu^ld be rtow ac<iuainled with (bcir particular 
L:j^te. or brtlier OcTigai, 1 coofeli myiclf anabic to con- 
crire. 

• With rtgirJ, Sir, to the InwIJigeoce imnfratKcd from 
Soeti%a Cbtiiti b/ Agcnti and SpK>, ■ litJr Lonrideration 
witl Cfefi])' ^ifcovcr thai it is not to be Iruftcd. For what 
on be generally expcflcd from tlirm, but that tbcy Should 
CT' 2 RepOfti. or by Chame intercept ancertatn 
v., ^.taithry fljouldeoquiietimorouny, and therefore, 
(or (be gieiieil ^n, of ihofe ftom whom no CititfjAory 
Auoaatictn be rcceiv'd. and that ihry (hould often coJea' 
YOBrnddcimheir SalaLiicsby focb InfornuicioD'as is rather 
plnftug ihia irve 

' AU the Knowledge ihaccan be obtained of an Enetny't 
Drirgni, Biitii ariJc Irom a diligent Cumpiriron of one cir- 
cnatttacc with soother, and frooi a general View of bis 
Fbrcc, hia IcterrA. aad hii Opportunllies. And that {\Kh 
Coejeifture* will be often erroncout, ncedt not to be told. 

• probability, therefore, ij, m (uch Enquiriej. all that can 
bs atsaifMd. and be that Ati idle in che'Ticie of War, ex- 
jirt' -~ —riin (nielligcncc, will fee his Enemies enjoying 
t: .igc> of hu Folly, and laying bold on a tfaoulaod 
Ofp.'run,uei which he hu neglcflcd to improve. 

' The W»r, in which we are now engaged, has been 
Cirried on by the Admimtiratioo with the utnioll Diligence 
•ad Vigour I nor hare nny Meifurcs been omiiied that 
cmld probably produce Succers^vid theSuccefi of the wffcft 
Mex'^rn if o«iy probible. 

' the great Admiral, who n now prefent io the 
|i . .- 0]ei the French and Spiniards in the open Sm, 

hf wiiat Art could be arrive at a certain Knowledge of 
ifctir Defigri'i be might, by hii Actjoaintancc wjih the 
Stimdon iad Sure of ncighboonng Couotrie?, the CK)lcrTa* 
•am of their Course, the Pcriodt of particular Windt, and 
Oilier Hiait» ofObferntton, fortn probable ConjcAurei, but 
OmM nerer reach to Certainty or Confidence 

• Itfeemi n> me, thcraiorc, highly improper, to petition 
ftii Majefly for InicUigencc. wh:c^ he cannot be imagined 
IO btTi received, and I cannot sgTce to any Motion for tbit 



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Rejeaid 



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OBW * 



( eo) 

Rejraed a Motion toaddref* hii Majefly, Thit the H 
be iniormcd, when hii Majefly, or ihc I^ords Julltcea, firA 
rertivetJ ccruin Advicci of the failing of the Fcrrol, BrdI, 
and Toulon Squadroot for the Wcll-Iodie*. 

Mr. Sudys then made another Motion, to iddrdi hti 
M:jc(ly, ihat there may be laid b<fore the Houfe Cf'pici of 
all Letters received from, or written to, Adminl VcrnoA 
fioce fail going to the WeS-Indiet. Which being fccooded. 
Ml. Pelham fpokc to this £fi<a : 
S t *, 

* ThbMotioe.if the Intectioa of Itbeliiniced by proper 
ReftrkltoikSf ii doubtlcftrrATonablc andjutl, for the Right of 
this Honfe lo exaoitne into the Condutl of public A&tn, 
aad con{e<iu<;aiIy for calling for the Paper* necellary t* 
catightcn their Euquiriet, ii oot to be difputed 

* Bat, ai the End of all fuch Enquiricf ii the PromotioB 
of Uic public Welfare, fo they are not to be made In b 
Biatiner by which that End maybe defeated. Paper* ■rt 
not to be deiuaodcd, which canoot be produced wi:houldif< 
covrring our own Secreis, and acquainting our Enemies 
cither with that Weaknef^t which we oughi carefuUy to 
cottcei), or (hat Force which will be tnoft cffrtimUy ein< 
ployed if it is not known, and ihcrcfoie no Preparjliooi an 
made to oppolc it. 

* It csiinot be imagined, bat that mxny of the Paper* 
which have p-ilTed bciweeo the Admiralty, and the Coid- 
maodcr in America, contain Flam of the Fiofccutioa of 
the War, Ohrcrvationt on the Condiiion* of our own Colo- 
niet, and pcrhip* Intelligence of ibe Efl«tc of the Spanidi 
Fortrcirei and fowni. Many loforoiationi of the utmot 
Ouifcquence to our Enemiei may be coilcAed from tlit/fe 
Papers, but nothing can be expc^ed from them, that w 
enable US lo profecute a parliamentary Eoqairy with mo 
Succefi, Cflcc tt Will occ put it in our Power lo difcoTi 
Fraud*, Negligence or Treachery. 

■ There arc. Sir. other Papcn which may indeed be laid 
before di, without aoy BeoeEttoour Enemies, and perhapi 
with fome Advaiiuge to ourfelvet, the P^pen which contua 
die Accompts of our Preparations aod Store, the LiiUol'oor 
Force*, and the Calcuiatjoo of our Expcnces are the proper 
Sub)cAi of pariiamecBry Enqoirtci, atui if the Maiioa b* 
Tcllraiocd to thotr, 1 believe, ti will (tot be oppoJcd by anf 
CeotJeman engageJ in the Adrainirtration of oor AJIiitr*. 1 
fiuU bes Lravc to prupoTe there Words may be added. 
/4rMt tlt/jMt rtUtit ta a Smfftf tfUlfift, Jih^ian *r U 

Fwtti,* [llic Motion, thw* tmetwlctl, wu ajrrni to ) 

Of<ici 






( 6I ) 

Ordered, Tltat Copies, or Extraflj of all Letters, and Annoi4,Cre. 
kber Papen from Mr. Kincb, hi* Mijelly'* Minifter at the M f7*>. 
irt of Ruflb, lo cither of his Msjelly** Secrctariei of L^V"^J 
ite, or to tlic CommiiSaners for Trade iintl Plantations, fo 
ir as the fame relate to che opening of a Trade to and /loia 
Er£a thro' Ruflta, be laid before thetn. 
The Order ol the Day being rend for the Call of the 
H Dure, it was moved, that the lame be further adjourned litl 
Thurftiay fc'cn night : After Debate, the (jucllion being 
it, itp=fl«d in the Negative; Aye* 84, Noc* 107. 
Refolvcd, I'hat the Call of the Houfe be Qrthcr adjourned 
'I'ueltJay the 31 H of March next. 

Agreed to the Report of Part of a Bill for the more eafy 
Iccovery of fmall Dtbis, itul ordered ic to be iartbcr con- 
^£dcred 00 Thurfday. 

The ;th. Ordered, that the Tbanka of this Houfe be 

liven 10 Dr. Reuben Clarke, far the Sermon by hicn 

ichcd before this Houfe Ycftcrday at St. Margaret's, 

^ellioiniler, and that ht be dcfired to print the fiine. 

Read a firil time, a Bill to explain fo much of an A£t of 

He I jth of Queen Anne, for providing a public Reward for 

ch Perfoo or Pcrfons as Ai.U diicovcr the Longitude at 

ea, ai relates to tht making of Hxpeiiments o( Propofais 

irdilcoveringihe Longitude at Sea. 

Received a Petition from the Inhabitants of South-Caro* 
laa, felling fonh. That on the 18th of November lafl, a 
■inoll drend^l' Fire broke out in Charies-I'own, and in left 
than 4 Houri utterly confamed the belt ami moft valuable 
Part uf the (aid Town, whereby many Families are reduced 
to the utmotl Didrefs, and therefore praying Relief, ice. 
Referred to a Committee of the whole Houle on the txth 
inltaot. 

Ordered, That the prof>er Officer do lay befsre (hU 

Haufe, an Accoonl of the I'evrrat Qo-iniiiies of Wool that 

have been hizeA by iny OfScer of lixcile or Cufioms withio 

this fvirgdom foi fevcn Yean part,dillii)guifiiing each Year. 

Refolveil. 1 hat this Houlc will upon this Day eight 

Weeks, refolve itielf mio a Commtltcc of ihr whole Houfe 

^Bn>on the bilti fxr rcguliufig friab at A'l/f Fnai^ and for 

^fbe more cftedual lummor.mg Special Jurici. 

' In a grand Commhtre, went tftro* ihe Bill fjr ihebener 

I fe curing Che Freedom of Parliiit.eflti, by limiting the Num- 

■ker of Officers iu the Houfe of Common*, with fevcral 

^H|imendnicDl>, 

^B Refiimed the adjoorned Confidcration of the Report of 

^Bbc fiiil for the more eafy Recovery uf Small Deixi : And 

■lamiocd fcreral Fntbai ai loucbine theu Piacci aad Fen. 

Th, 



(62 ) 

Annoi4,Geo The i6tli. Read i fecond time, a Bill to prevcBtlnr 

IL1740. rcoiencies arifing by Delay* of Caufet mftcr Ifiucjiwl 
^/'"y*\J Relumed the adjourned ConfidentJon of the Report (i' 
the Small- Debt Bill, and nude a farther ProgreTs. 

lo a grand Committee went thro' the Bill corendaAt' 
Jtivis more effe£toal for preventing Stieeptflcalinei ui\ 
Ciaufe was added for the more enAual preventiBg dit 
robbing of Orchards and Gardens, and fiealing of Wtll-FnA 

The 9th. Received a Petition of the principal Inhabiml 
of the Borough of Minehead in SomcrfetlhJre, conptaiai^ 
of the Decay of the Woollen ManafaQuret, and vnvH 
Relief, &c. 

Read a firll time, a Bill to indemnify Perfbnt whobm 
omitted to qualify ihemfelves for Officei b/ taking tk 
Oaths, &c. 
Addtefs'Klat- Refolded, That an humble Addrefi be prefented toll 
Kg toa Cartel Majefty, to give Direflions, that Care may be taken (ofc- 
uin all Spnnilh Prifoners that have already, or flul) b» 
aficr be taken during this prefent War, until tbey flnlllR 
exchanged for fome of his MajeAy's Britifli SubjcAs, td 
that he will be gracioufly pleafed, as foon at convenietfll 
may be, to fettle a Cartel with Spain, for the Exchanpi 
Prifoners taken in War. 

Heard Counfel further on the Merits of the Rcadii| 
EleflioQ, &c. 

The loth. Received a Petition from the CIotbien|te.rf 
Froom in Somcrfetfhire. And another Petition fnm ikt 
Wool-combers, Weavers, Dyers, &c. concerned in lB>ldM 
of Druggets at Road and Telsford in the fame Omb^ 
complaining of the Decline of the Woollea Tnujle, Secwi 
praying Relief, &c. " '• 

Received an Ellimate of the Debt of his MzjcBy*%JfyrL 
as it flood December the 31ft, 1740. 

Ordered that John Meres, Printer of the Diity Poft, 
was committed on the 3d of December 17401 totheCtaAl#] 
of the Serjeant afArms, for printing Part |of • maU^^ 
and fcandalous Libel, &c. in that Paper of the-firftdf^i^ 
cember 1740, tie difcharged out of Cullody, pty 
Fees, upon giving Security to be forth-coming, to 
the ProfccLiiion which this Houfe has addrelTed fai« 
10 carry on againft him. 

Agreed to the Report of the Bill to render tb« iMJI 
more effrdtual for preventing the Stealing of ShentMl 
other Cattle. Ordered it to be engroffed. -Ty 

Agreed to the Report of the Bill for the better lecttl^ 
the Freedom of Parliameocs, by limiting the Numbtar 




( 63 ) 
Oicmia the Hoafe of Comnions. Oidertd it to be en- Annor4,Gea 
groftd. II- ■740- 

Heard Coanlel further od the Merits of the Reading I^/VSh/ 
Ikaioa, &c. 

The* tith. Read a fecond time, the Bill to indemnify 
Perfouwho have omitted to take the 0.iths, &c. 

Rod a fecond time, the Bill for the belter Prercrvatioa 
tfAe pubhc Roadj of Gre.it Britain. 

h a gnnd Committee wenc thro' ih^f Bill for licenfing 
Ar InporbtioD of ViAiuI from Ireland into Scotlund in 
Twc of Scarcity. 

Sod a third time, and palled the Bill to render the Lawa 
■OK effcAoal for preventing the Healing and deftroying 
Sheep and other Caitle. Ordered it tothe Lordi. 

Hceived a Petition of the Clothier.^ and StuIF-K'eaveri of 
Kiddcrminller in Worcefterlhire, complaining of the Decay 
af the Wooden Manufa£tory, and praying Relief, u:c. 

The izth. Received feveral Petiiions from ^^'^'"'"'t Snndrv Pcti 
UidfinDBicr Norton, Wdton, Paulton, Tem|>Ie. High Lit- tjons com- 
I'ctM* aad HallUrow, alio fronn Siiepton-Maltet, all in the pliinrng of 
CoHttty of Somerfet, con-pLining of ihe Decay of the '^'^.^"^^ "*" 
Woollea Manu&dure, Ac. &c. Alfo a Petition from Leeds Tradtl, 
ia Vorkflure relating to the fame. 

* Thii Day Mr. SamJjs, to avoid the Rcfieelhn of a liifio- 

tmraiil Pttctedii^, im prtferritt^ a Charge luithout giving 

fnvimi tiuiett thgi^ht it proper to go from bit Plact to 

Sk Xatirt IFa/f/e, and in a 'vtiy frank tnanner told him, 

1^ ht might tah ff'mrming, aud frtpart to be upon bit 

Gmri^ /*r tbmi «• Frid^ next he Jbould bring an Aiivfitdon f 

fntmi Artitlit againfi bim. Sir Robert paufed a Utile upon 

^urJtftStd M Ocmp/imtnt ; but tbauted bim 'very politely fjr 

fir Infirmmtiam, and fiiid, be dtfirtd no Favour, but fair Play. 

— JA*. S^mfyi oftertMardi mentioned tbit Affair publicly in 

Athmfi, mmd faidt be bad a Charge to make agatnft an Ho- 

mmtii hUimbtr tf tbt Houfi, the Chancellor rf the Excbe- 

ftf,wivm btrifuirtdtobt in hii Place tohear and anfituer it 

« Iridmf Miming ment. Sir Robert returned fr Jnfvier, 

fkr fc fitmtd tirtainly attend; and as be wat not anfcious of 
i^Crimt H dtfimn fich an Accujation, did net donbt tf being 
4b to auie a fr^er Dfftntt, frying, " Nil confcire fibi f , 
" mBi pallelcere Culpx." H^nb being mi/^nted, occafonej 
^Wi^^ tf a Gainta between bim an?. Mr. Pnlleney. Sir 
JUff/ beii^ etnmimeedef bit Miftake, yielded the laager kft, 
^^ At •tf^t* Gtatiemem Utk ttbe a good Omen en thiir 

t HoRAei/gvnalla— Culpa. 



(64) 

Anno 14, Geo. Alfo t Petition from the Lord Mayor, Aldenneo, and 
lt^7¥>- Commons of the City of London, in Common Council af> 
fembled; fettiag forth, That notwithftanding themany Aftt 
of Parliament that have been made to hinder theExporta- 
ttOD of Wool from Great Britain and Ireland, yet the iame 
have not ])roved effeflual to prevent fo great and crying an 
Evil i that to the unfpeakable Grief of the Petitioner!, and 
to the abfolute Deilrudion of the Trade and Mann&^ores 
of thefe KinKdoms, great Quantities of Wool are every 
Year clandeftmely exponed to France, and other foreign 
Countries, by Means whereof the French in particular are 
enabled not only to rival, but even to underfell ue in Clothi, 
and other Manu&ftures of Wool, in mofl foreign Markets, 
to the inexpreffible Detriment of the Commerce of tbcle 
Kingdoms, and their own immenfe Gain and Advnnuge ; 
£nce it is well known that by one Pack of Britifli, or IrJQi 
Wool, they are enabled to work up two Piickt of their own, 
which, without that He!p, they could not make uCe of, fo 
as to interfere in any confidcrable Degree with the Mann- 
fiidures of this Nation: That, if the public Notoriety of 
this deftrufiive PraAice, is not fuSicient to prove how in- 
ci&dual the Laws hitherto made have been to prevent the 
clandefline Expertation of Wool, the Petitioners prefamc, 
that the languifhing State of our Manu/adures at Hom^ 
the continual iocrcafing Demand for tiiem at foreign Mar- 
kets, together with the low Price, to which Wool is already 
reduced, mull fully (hew, that more elTeftual Means arc ne- 
ccflary to put a ftop to the Exportation of it, and thereby 
preferve to thefic Kingdoms that ineltiioable Gift of Provi- 
dence, the very Vitals of our Commerce, the chief ud 
almoft only Soukc of the Riches and Grandeur of tim 
Nation ; and therefore praying. Sec. 

Read a firft time a Bill to enable the Commiffionen of 
WeftminUer' Bridge, to raife a further Sum towardi finiihiaj 
the Cime. 

Agreed to the Report of the Bill for liccofing the Impoi^ 
mtion of Vi£lual from Ireland into Scotland, &c. Ordeicd 
it to be engroflcd. 

Ordered a new Writ to be ilTued out for Eleding m Bar- 
gefs to ferve in Parliament for Portfmoutb, in the room of 
the Honourable Charles Stewart, Vice-Admiral of the 
White, deccafcd*. 

Read a third time, and paffisl the Bill for the better fecn* 
ring the Freedom of Parliaments, by limiting the Nomber 

of 

* Vict-Aimirti Vtraen 'was tha*d im bit Rmm wthtat 
Offe^/iM. 




( 65 ) 

the HouJic of Corainons. Onicred k Co the Anno r4, Gea 

II 1743. 

lit WM moved, that ilie Journal* of *— '''Y*\> 

1 ^>( J}«ct'inbcr i68{, of the lUtK of 

. 'if (he 7CI1 of I>ccrnib<r, and i6tb of 

y .:.,j. ifiJ ol (lie 9J1 of November 1696, io 

to tni; FrtxcTdir^i of ihe Houfie, ia the Cafe of 

L^c;; Opram ChtircbiU, the Lotd V'ilcount 

ad, aimI Mr. Mauley, Member 0/ ti»e Houfe, might 



Aru3 ihr fame being rrad acconding'y, Mr. Sindys Hood 
laiul <3e1miTU bimclf >i /ollowt: 



•"^ 

^L^ s:r (he miay Acv^DUges arifiag from our happy s^m SonJri^ 

^■Mb. rem, tbcre it one whrch is reciprocal to ^^ 

^H^^ vviiirh I-, a kga) anii regular Method by 

^V^ cH OneVAncef,i.bmp!aiau, atul 

Ht it^ign ; not only witli regard to 

tta« Mcrtvict Itf jtyrtucs. uut a.lD wjili rcgjid (o ihe ftfriboa 

I fcc etB^fcyj li, jb aV'.c i\Ior.arciiKi. tlie People in*y fuf- 

H .' but ttto' ibeii SuHeriu^i be pLjbJic^ 

Bt tieprtv..te: Tliey uiull not fo much 

H Biimu' a];«ifllt ttaeir S.iDg*i Mtalurcs or MmiileiSi if 

tbfy do, it II crriaiR i'eniiltoii to the Few tiitil ate guilty of 

te isacb IntlilcrctioD. TJtii it a moll lertibic Miifotcune 

a trw fcDple la all ahl'olinc Monarchici, and occAfiooi 

t&olc tJnrcri: FuniJhmcnLt and Cfuel Toriuiei. wltkh arc lb 

frcifwm in *U foch i boi it is a Mi-furtune to the ablolure 

Uoducti, MS well ma to tbc i'eopte under hU defpotic Sway, 

fur ai Jm lu* no w&y of comiDg at tlte Knowledge uf the 

Capap«^riiy ur bit Mr'liir»or Mitulicrs. be often goCs 

lu/C', or cmiiloying the Ume 

: cf hii People becunic uuiver* 

, --. by a gewrj) liifurrtetior-, he and 

^cil 10 oAc com>non Kuin. However 

may have been, however much he 

' (Ml bv his MirllVti.^n impciuoutt 

■ rrncc: The 

' !iie Faniily, 

■ ■t tnr i'ljfteiii, and 

: ot at) injiicd i*(^u. 

, ^it. itr.in never be To, A9 long as the 
y arJ fitclv. auJ the 

... 1 ; -;j!ully ibe Omy tbcjr 

ibcir CoiittUucltt*, aod ttictr L«utiiry. 

a. jit 



purlatn|[ tl<i! C" 
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(68) - 

Anno 14, Geo Company the Sam of fcven Milltont Sterling, which thcf 
II. 1740, had obliged themfeives 10 p>}' to the Public, a grcai P»n of 

lh/*W^ whicb Sum was (;iven to old Stockholder*, aptt conlcqucntly 
10 thofe who hid never fulTcretJ by the Sclicmc j were ibc 
Stcpi by whicK be wikt fuppoiVJ lu have itUn 10 Power, and 
Aicb Steps eould not but rnif'c a grr^rnl l>illa(le W hit Ad* 
rinccinenifXnd a Dread uf hi* AOminidration. 

' 7'hiis, Sir. he cMered in:o ire Atlmintiiratioti wilb tltf 
general Diiapj'robatioo of the People j ai.d I atn la-r, hu 
JVtesfutC) ilncc have beco l^r frum reflortrg him (o ibdr 
Love or Eikcin. At he Ugi:, (o hus he gore on. oppief- 
Jing the Innc^cnt, impcling u[:on the Crci^u our, fi^rerniDg 
tliC Guiiy, willing the public Tresfure, and endaojering 
the L'bertict of ihe People. AU thii I could evince Tom 
every Siepofhii AcniiniiliaURn. ftotn the Ucginniog lothii 
very D^v , but 1 Hull confine myfe.f to fume of ihe rood re- 
mark-^^.e Irllancei. In general, I (bail obfetve, that by 
hit Ai'vicc and rr.fluencc amucb ctriicr Aioiy }ia\ all along 
been kept ap than was neccltiirj' k>r (he Support of ocir G» 
vernmcnc. or cocfiilcnt with our Conflilutiun, and even tlM 
Army cften augtncmedwich&u; any rcitl C'ufe : That mnj 
SijuadronB have Iveen fiilrd out, to the great tvpence cf tM 
Nation, and gcncial 0:t(iirb:.nL-e of our TrAdc, without any 
jud C'luie, and, I believe, wichoji To much m Dtfign to em- 
ploy them cfLfLually, cither ag^iiiifl our Encmici, ur for the 
Afiiiianceof cur Allies: I hat every Method prcpoicd ot lit* 
Yean for fecunng cur ConOiiuiion iigamtt our mott dangC' 
roui Enemy, Conuption, li»s been, by bii Mean, fcjrfial, 
or rendered inclTcduil; wiiiltl, on i! e otKer hand, many pe<^ 
Vi*i h»ve been p:tne<;i, whii:!] have reduced » gmt Nacnbir 
of hi* M>ji.Hy'i Sa'oJc£l^ under the arbitrary Power of I 
Minil^rr Aril hii Crdiures ; 1 hat almoA every Ariic'e ef 
pu ' lie hat been encreakd by the Ad«jjiicn of n«ir 

kcr < ilicerti and all Enc}Di)ie« into the M^LnjgcniCBt 

of any I'ublic Money, either prcveotcd or deiesud . That 
Vote* cf Credit at the End of aSeflionof Parliament, wMc^ 
have alwayt been ihopght of dtngcroui Confcquencc tooor 
ConQit^tiw. have by him been nude I'o frequent, that fcv 
Sefllons have poflid wiihout one: That the txpenceof tt> 
Civil Urt hat been vaJUy increafcd fjnce the Begin- ■'"' "^ 
bis A din imitation, tho* it v.zi then much greaiei ti ■' 
ever amounicd la in former Times. To thefc, Sir, wim. 
lire alt of a domellic Nature, I Oisll add, with reginj to 
our foreign Afuirt, that ever fmce hit Advice begun to t» 
picva'cDC la our foreign Alfjtrf, the Trade and paiitfvli) 
ln:ers(i(<rt!iiA Nation i^sve id all I'miiet and Negociatton 
bccii ncgk^led, tbe Couiidccce ol our moil lutural Allin 



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rded, ind the Favour of our mod dringcroui Enemiei Anno t s, Geo. 



iiul that to this mail 



table Coniiuft. the *'■ 'T-lO' 



unnccou 
prcfent meUnchoIjr Sitnaiion of ihc Affurs of F.urope ii L^'Y"^^ 
principally lo bealcrjbcd. 

' 1 know. Sir. it will be obje^d, that as every materUt 
Siep in the lace ConduA of «ir Pulilic Afi^irt. cither at 
home or abroad, hit been authorized or approved of by 
Pjr.'iamcfil, what 1 have lud mull be look'd oo as a general 
Chjrgc 3gntnfl his Majcdy'i CounciU and our Parliarnrnii, 
rather than a peiU.ngl Charge agitnO any one MiniDer; 
bat thii, upon a due ConGder^ition. becomes the moil heavy, 
and liic moil evideor Chnrge ngxinlt the Minitler 1 arm at, i 

According to our ConQitution. wc can have ao (ole and 
pfime MiDiHer : We ouj^fat alwayi to liavc (everal prime 
nliriilleri ur Ufficcri of Sute : F.very fuch tifiicrr has his 
own proper Dcpanmeni; and no Officer ought to meddle 
in the Afiaira belonging to the Dep;irtmeni of another. Out 
it is publicly itnuwrt. that thi» Miniflfr, hi>ving obtained a * 

fole Influence over all our public Councils, has not only af- 
fumcd the fole DircAion of all public AiFairi. but hat got 
every Officer of S;a:c removed that would not follow hii 
i^ir^lion, even in the AfEtirs belonging lo his own proper 
Department. By thU meins he haih monopolixni all ibt 
Favoart of the Crown, and eogratlcd the fole Dilpufj] of all 
placet, Penfioni. Titlw, and Kibbons, as well a&of all Pjc- 
kriiicni*. civil, military, or eccUfiatltcs). 
^^* This, Sir, ii of itiVlf a moll heinoui Cf&nce againft 
Hfr ConlUiutioot but he has greatly aggravated the Hej- 
luiufncli of bit Crime ; for, having thus monopolized ill the 
Favours of the Crown, he hkt nude a blind ^subin.fTiun to 
liis Diitftinn at Eleflions acd in Parliament, the only 
Ground 10 hope for any Honours or Prcfcrmrntt, and the 
otily Tenure by which any Gentleman could prclrrve what 
he hnd. This ii fanutoriouily known, that it c^n (land in 
need of no Proof. Have not many detcr\-ing Gentlemen 
been dKippointcd in ibc PrefcrmcDt they bad a jull I'itle to, 
upon the hare StiCpiciun of not being blindly devoml to hii 
pcrfonal Intereli ? Have not lome Pcrfaos of the highcft 
Kanic and moft iliultrious Charafieri been dilplaced, fur no 
other Realon tttan becitife they difdaincd to liicrjf)ce ihrir 
Honour and Confricncc to his Direction in Parliament. Al 
no Crime, no Kcglcil, no Mifb^biviour could ever be ob- 
jcAed to them, .is no other Jlealon could ever be alTigned fur 
depriving the Ciown of their Service, this only could bt 
the Kralofl. Nay, hai not this Miniller himfcit not only 
cunfelTcd it, but boaRcd of it? Has he nut faid, and in ihia 
^oulc too, [bat he would be a pitiful FcUow of a Miniiler 



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Anno tj, Cct) who dii not difplace soy Officer that oppofed ht) Meafiirct 
in Parlument f 

• Car any Gentlenian who heart) this Dcclmrion dtfire 
a Pruof of the Minillcr's Mifcondud, or of hit Crjmei t 
Was not tills openly avowing one of the motl hcitioni 
Crimea chac can be committed by a Minilirr in thit King- 
dotn i Wat it txx avowing that lie had made ufe of ihe 
Favours of the Cruwn for ofauining a corrrupt MMJoricy tfl 
both Hoiilei of Psriiament, and krcping that Mijoriijr In 1 
naviOi D'^'pendance upon dimlclf alone ? Do not we «ll 
kuuw, thai even the King hinirelf is ttot, by our ConlUta- 
tion, to take Nuticeof an^ Man's Bctuviour in Pxrliamnf, 
farlrff to make ibat Behaviour a Meani by v--kich he U ID 
obtain, or a Tenure by which he ii to hold, the Favour of 
the Crown ? And fliall we a'.law a Miniller not otily i<t ^o 
but openly [0 avow, what he ooghtfo be hanged for. ' 
tte uvile bii Sovereign to do lo? Il t< by Means u, ...;. 
Crime, Sir. that the MiniAer I am rpeakiogol hai obluined 
the Authority or Approbation of Parliament in every Step 
of hit ConJi>A, andcherefnre that Authority or Approbatiott 
h (o fit (tota being an Alleviation, that it is a mod bciry 
A^ravation of every wrung Step which he has ihoi got 
tuiiiorifed or approi-rdof by Parli-ment, For this Realoo, 
in confiilering any particular Step of hii Condu^, its being 
BUthotilcd or .ipprovi.-d by P-irliameni. can bivc no Wcigu 
in his Ftvour, whatever ic m^y have igainft him !f lh» 
Strp W3S in ittcT weak or wicked, or if ii now-appeiri 
from ill ConlcqucDcc: to have been To, it< having been ap- 
proved of. or authorjfed by Parltament. mcfl be fuppofol to 
Aivcprocccded cither ftom hi) havingmillrd thr Pirliamai 
by fall'c GIoUcs and AflVvcralions, or from hit having ovci> 
awed a iVhjviity by tiicani ot that Cnme which be has liiire 
openly avowed. 

• Having tbto obviated an Obje&ion that may be madi 
spinll any particular AccuLtioo, u well as ;igjinn the 
general Accu&tions I have already mentioned, I ftall jol 
bint at Torn e of the ptniculir Brancbts of MifconduA ht 
Jus been guilty of in ttie long Coarfr of hi» AdminiAr^iion t 
and among thcfe, the fm-tU Progrels we have made in the 
Difchar^e of our Public Debt mofl juilly dcferve* the firfi 
Place. It il really fu/pri^ing, that the National Debt (bould 
MW be as much, if not more than ii wa» in the V'car m^t 
when our MibiLter firll took it into hi* Head to pull down IM 
owrgrowo Powerof iheHoui'eof Auflria. In the year i;i6, 
the public Dcbr was computed to amount to no more than 
4.7.894.9^01. bar by fome Articles ihen omitted, and bymaoT 
•xtraoidiury Allawaaces afierwardi maile, cfpeciaDy ihoic 

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t?Bg^K> Army- Debenture!, in which this Gentleman ha;d AnTxi"^o" 
.very remarkable Sliare, llic publrc Debt. a> it then Hood, II' 1740. 
s made to amouni to 5 1 ,oco,oool. Of thii Sum tberc 
I, in or before the Ye»r 172J. pftid off about j.ooo.oool. 
hich rcducetl it to 46,000,000!. snd as the Sinking- Fund 
at to receive a grcit AiJdition in the Vear 1727, by the 
RcduAion of Imcrert, we had a Profpcfl of having a great 
Par: of our public DcbtJ paid off in a few Yean, cfpecialiy 
as the I'ranquilliLy of Europe, or at ieatl of thti Nation, 
Jcetncd to be cllablifhed by the Treaty concluded rhat Year 
At Vicaiia, between the Emperor af>d ihe King of Spain. 
But our Minifler u^as, it fecms, fenCble of the Power and 
Influence he acquired by means of this Load of DebCi and 
by the many Taxes impofcd for the Payment of ir. He 
Itnew that thcfe Taxei, while :hey •continu(\ mutt alw.iyj 
make a great Number of Oncers and Placemen ncceffary ; 
and at be bad the placing, preferring, and dilpldciog of aU 
Ctiefc Ofticcri at hii arbitrary WjU and PleaTare, he tcnerv 
wh It ^^ <^igi>t this g'^'* to \i\% Influence^ both .11 K'efliont 
and 111 Pailiament. For this Rcafnn he hai employed ail 
his An to prevent our being .tble to pay off soy Part of our 
old debr, or if w: paid uff with one Hand, he has rakcn 
care tn rvtke us contrail ai much wiiii the other, fo that the 
Naiiuoai Debt ia now much about the fame, or rather more^ 
than It wa> in the Year 172;. tbo' the Nation had ncrcr, in 
all thm Time; been involved in any extraordinary Expencc, 
but what has bccu u&necellarily brought upon it by hii j4rt 
ur Mifcondtffl. 

k* 1 Uy, Sir, hii Art or Mifcoitdud, either of which is 
ruioly a molt fafiicicnt Caufc 10 remove him from his 
jijed)'i Councils; but 1 am apt 10 believe, there was 
fonieihingof Art or Dcfjgn.aa well a» Mifconduft in it} for 
he really feemi to have bem afraid of baring our Debts 
(timiDifiicd, fur fur of titc Confcqucnce, which muit have 
^^w«n ih^t of aboUfiiing (ome of our moll burdenfomc and 
^Krn'Cioui Taxet; oihcrwife it was tmpoiTiblc he could 
^^ve tiken fo much Paini ai he did. to delot a Schema 
offered a few Year> fincc by a wortliy Member of thif 
bule, for reducing the Intercft payable upon '.he iValional 
bt( and f\)r pulling the whole upon 11 certain Footing of 
di*c>iargcd in a Courfe of Vcari, without ia beirg la 
rof any (ueh Minirter at he to prevent it. 'i« 
lull with the defeating of thi;Srhcrre, may likcnilc 
fkidtobcan AccuUliun biough'. agairfl thti very Psrliit- 
ni i luu it ii well known by wtiam, and by wi-.ofe InHti- 
ice it wai defeated. I am pretty lure, tt 11 the genera! 
iatua without Doors, (liai u wat not by [fit I'<f1uc(M;eof 

A'guisent; 




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Adpo M. Gro Argomfnt; but tf the Ddcat ivas owing to thxt loffjcTK^, 
II. %Tio. SI 1 hope It was, I am convinced, th.tt mod of thofe «ho 
l^'— V''"S-) were fwaycd by that Itifiuencc, are row kniible of (heir 
Error, srul Iic^rli'y with tlicx '■'d coiilxlcred b«ttcr of it I 
br I am afraiJ we Hull never again meet with fo farourtble 
an Opportunity. 

• But. Sir, the next Step of Mifcondufl I Oiall take notice 
of^ is of a diflc.'cni NAiurc; it ii a Siep tliai happened ttot 
to meet with the Approhation cf I'ar-iamcnt. tho' J do not 
qucllion h> having been fupponed and enforced hy «ll the 
Metliodi afuj) of liit Yean, in fuch C^fes. I mdke do 
Doubt but ever^ one, who pofTefled or hoped ivt any 
Place or 06ice under iheCronvn, were tbieiincd uithk DU- 
appointnieni to tbeir Hopes^or tbe Lofs of ibe Places itiey 
psffclTcd. it" mcy voted Bgainll it i and my Realou for sot 
doubting cf thi) )!•■ becatifr feveral Nob'emen and Ge«lk- 
men were tbe very ixxt Year turned out oi erery Place 
the Crown could take frani tlietn, lor no other Kp^ysieat 
RcAton, but becaafe they or ihcir FrieiKJi voted »gittift 
that minUtcTuI Projcd ; and, {o far i.i I c:n recoiled. [ ijo not 
remember, rbai any ooe Who voted .igii&H it ha: ever fince 
obtaintd a Fivottrfrom the Crown, aa,ci\ it be fuch, sj have, 
b)' tlicir Coc<^u^( tlnce, (hcwn.thftt they hcjnily repented of 
ibcif Stubbornneis at that 1 imc. I believe every one thil 
hwrs me uill fuppofe 1 mean liie J^xciie Scheme, whkh 
WJU cert-ifl'y one ot the wealccO, or one ol (be wkkedeit 
l^rojeCti that wu ever /ct on i-'uot. or countcoance.), by any 
Minilirr in ihii Kingdom. If our Miniiicr was fcnfitilc of 
ibe great Pawer that Scheme would have placed in tbe Haodi 
of a Mmiltcr. and liud realty formed a Dctign to ovmuia 
by ihJi Me&ns the Liberty ot the People, be ought to be tot 
ooly removed, but puniOird for hii Wickednelii aod if be 
«-ai Dot fcnbble of the Danger that wouid mccrue from tbai 
Scheiretu our C'un 11 notion, if be liad really no View, tm 
the preoriitu) Hope of thereby making a little Adiittioo 
to the public RcvcTuc. particuUrly to tbe Civjl-Ltfi, t mnA 
Uy, hit W c;iknefi was amazing ; for it fticued, that he Gei- 
thcr undertltKid the Genius ot our Conliiiutioo, nor the G<" 
ntut of O'jr People. If be had undeiilood the Genioi tf 
our Conllituiion, hccould not but be fenbblc of the drflroc- 
live tAc^tt (hat Scheme tault necefpinly have had upoo if : 
If he haJ undcWIood tbe Gcniui of our People, it a tmpel- 
iible to luppole, he would havejidviicd his Majerty to have 
Toif.'iied tbe AJle^tions of the whole People, lor tbe Ut 
of making an uocenam. and at bcft, but a u'lBing Ad^dOB 
to ibr Pubiic, or Civtl LiU Kereauc. 

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' Tito** Sir. if be had ne«r been guilty of any other / 14, Ceo 

Of Overitgtit, for thji Prajed alone he J-rcrvcs at '* KAo. 

ill to bff removed from hii Majclly'a Coarnli : and the C^'"V"'\J 

iReHtBtaient he fliewed agiinll cnufc. who v.i:cd ngjinff chii 

|kij fiifouf ite Scheme. 11 a Koof of whar he nr-w pjjl'cty 

")-u he hat made afe of. rhat he wilF milcir uie of, the 

■ if (he Crown, far Dbi:<<ning n cornipt Mijonty iq 

J iouiei of pArliimrnt. What happened upon t<»i» Oc- . 

U aa ev'ucnc DemQnltriti.in, thir he his ti> lucK 

already got, in a great tneifure, the NcmioJtion of 

fixieen Peers to rcprcfcnt the Pcemge of ScoiUod in the 

Hoofe ot Ptrliatnent. W« mjy remtmUfr, liiat fcven 

ciKht of the Gxtecn, who then fat in (tie other HouV, 

"ired Ofen'y agjinil this Scheme, and [irevailcd with 

c*' ihcir Kriend> in this, to vott ags-'i ;t it: What was 

ConrMjuL-occ ? Kvcry one of ihcm, tho' they hid great 

!n[errft amnng (he Peers of Scotland, were, at the 

;Ek^iofl,e(rcIt>dedby rhij MimHer's Interefl from be^ng 

"' nj and every one of them that enjoyed any Poll, 

the Plnlurc ot the Crown, had the Honour 10 be 

hii Majcrty*> Service; 1 hy, the Honour, bemafc, 

a Cafe, I tbiEtk it is the grcatefi tlonoiir tbe Crown 

low. 

It waaTd be endlets. Sir, to reeounl every Alfe 5;rp thii 

..I-, v,, ,jf,^c JB ide Conduft of our aomcfl c Affiirj, 

I llitll Diencion only one mote, which 'u ihe 

'■batioii he procured, but two Vcari ago, from 

I that Convention which he had jull befi^ie 

lu^i:s.i H-i:h Spain. At the Convention iifelf relatik 10 • 

forei^ A^in, I [h-ill not here enter into the Merit! of 

I ttuli iicre conlider noly the Method he look to obcaiD A 

ititg j4f> probation of it ftom Pirliatncnc, which w- b/ 

I - ^ tTcverstionj, th;it the SiMniHi Court wai tcn&- 

Vk c r.g been in the Wrong 10 thu Nation ; rK«i ica 

Igreci.'g to pay aoo.oool. .11 he reckoned It. to ut in n'lne 

ci Oama^t, wai an AcknoivJcJgment of it: baving been 

in t:; - : and that hil Catholic \!;ijelly nnd hr* MiiU- 

JUn ' "gly jrkd finccrcly inclined to do ui jjllicc, 

ritk rcgaiJ to ihc future Security of our Trade and Navigi- 

iiR the American Sen ; (mm whence he concludfd, ihil 

wr had not got all we might eipe<i by the Cunvcntioa* 

liluclk KOj but a preliminary fteity, yet it vr\i a ^ood 

roMdaltM lo build 00, And might prcbabTy, if liic Uoufa 

toihe Miirrlt ihrn (novvd for, produce a foTid ad 

lltifg Pe ■tx: whErcu!. if tJic Addrets ihatifd be d'figrred 

>, ihc immediau Confeqllcnce woulJ b« a War ivitb Ssdid. 

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(74) 

■ f msy apncal. Sir, almoU lo every GcDtlenin tbu^ 
hoir» me, i( i^it uai not ihe Strrngttt of the Arguo^eatjBI 
fnvocr c! ihar Ad-lrc{; : I may appeal lo man]' ihat vojm 
(at It; it Itieif dcpt titling upoatw Tiuih of ihefr Aflc?^ 
raiions was not ilic only RuTon fur (heir agreeing to (b 
rmch US a fecniing ApprcSMiion of that inrimoui Convtn- 
lion ; but frcm ibc Conlcqu^nMs, pnd Itkeuifc fiom the 
Papen. impcilcfl .-i tbcyaic, li^d before ui, it ttow «pp«m, 
ttiJt :here wit oo( ihe IcaA Ground for ary of thdV AQit* 
vcraiiuns It appeart, that Spain infilled tipon hnvtng our 
Nivigation ja the American Sc.is regulated, that ii to fiy, 
they loCfled it Ihoutd not be Tec : I'bat Spain iaAlled apot) 
our Soutb-i^ea Compaoy't P'^ing them a mod unjuA De- 
tDADd of 6S.000I. which reduced the Sum ikey were 10 pajr 
us by the Convention, to 17.000I. and this was not near tbs 
Value of the Sliipi ihcy bad before acknowledged to hare 
been unjullly taken from us, and had a^ua )^ difpatcbrd 
Orders to the Wcit-Indtet for their Rettitutioo, ai appear* 
upon the Face of ibe Convention iife'f; foibit their agree- 
ing to pay th» Sum was fit from being even a t^cit Ac- 
kno\hl(dgment of their having no Right co Hop »nd fcarcb 
cur Ship* upon the high Scd. and to feize and confifcaie 
thein. it tltcy )iad any of thole Goods on board, which the 
S[>aaiards are pleafed to call contraband : It was ottljr u 
Acknowlcdgmeni, that feme of om Ships hid been, even 
upon thi> Foeiine, unjuAly {eized, which theSpaoiUi Court 
had cxprtltly acknowledged, Jcng beibre the Convention 
was ihought of: Tbcfc. Sir, were the Terms the Spaniard* 
infilled on i and they farther inClled, as now plaiolyip*, 
pears, that we Oioutd keep no Squadron at Gibraltar or 
Ponmahcn, nohviihibnding their being now a Part of the 
Britrlh Dominion; i from whence they would, I foppoffl, 
have taken Occafion in a Hiori time to iaCtXi, agsialE ua u 
IcaA, that tbey liad a Dominion orerlhe Meditcrratievn, ai 
well as the Amcricao Seas, and that our Ships Qioutd iwt 
fail in the former no more than in the latter, but by theu 
leivc, and according lo (uch Dircflion;, or if yoa pictfr, 
Regulaiioni, ai they Ibould prtfcribc. 

* Thefe. 1 lay, Sir, were ihe Terms of PcACC [be Spaoi- 
ardi inCflcd on : L'nicfs we lliould agree to tbefe har(i||||| 
dt(honour;ib!e Terms, the SpaniQi Court oevo (bcwt^H 
Icstt tnclinatioo to live in Pc;ice with us, as appears ^H 
ibe whole Tenor of cur Negotiations previous to the Con- 
vention. On we fuppofc thsi our prime and (olc Minifter 
w*i ignorant of thu ? Can we fuppofe that be beiicrcd or 
imagiBed, that a fafc and honoorable Peace conld b« cwft» 
clodied with Spun upon the footing of the ConvcDtMa. 




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'Other Foocing. whillUliey connnufd lotnlift upon Annsu.Gco. 

Iw:»n. f Whii ihcn Can we think of (Iic Argument ** -'740' 

be Bvle ufe of for obuining from Patliim^ni i fort of Ap- 

r,tr.!u,Mjn of hi» Ccnvfntion ? Mull not »■« concIuJc. (hit 

l^urpafe h« aiTeritd what bc knew to be f.Ifc ? And 

' ^<>r a Man CO fit, and to bc&r the chief Sway ia 

of our Sovereign, who, in order to impofa a 

_!.-].■. t Trcity upon bi» King and Country, afTcrted 

1 0[w« Pirtiatncnt ivhat he kocw to be dbfolutely filfc I 
I (b*ll now beg lesvc. Sir, co tntic notice of fome of 
noil remirtvable Errorif if not Crimei, tn our Minitlcr's 
..lb regaid to foreiga Affair*. Here too his 
a began with a Mcafarc ttial could not but be 
tiUctccAQi!; to the People, becaufc tt waBdidianourable to the 
[Ntliun ; It began with a Ttery of Peace with Spiin, by 
Iwtiich wcigiro} loicllore thcShipswe Had taken ft om that 
tNMioa [n an open and juH War : and wttb a Ncgoti;>tion, 1 
not £>y ID Enfi*gcmeDt, to rcflote Gibraltar and Port- 
cD. 'viihoui llipuliiirg any Thing for the Advantage 
1. Of uiiiAiniiig an Fxp'an<>(ion of thole Tiea- 
t en then had bern mtfreprrlL-ntcd on the Part of 
S'jon ifitr ihii, be cntcfcd into ihst clofe Kricndftip 
_2urr<fpon(jcnfe witti the Court of France, which, to the 
>i» Otf-ulvantJgc of this Nation, lias contijiued ever 
arid wbich ha> now at laft brought the Balance of 
ct tr^:o the uimult Danger, if noi to incrinble Ruin. 
- '-^--1 remarkable and the mod pernicious of atl his 
> pi7 :carurei vnt, the Conceit be look into hi^ Head 

iaiu>>: .. .. of 172;. that [he lioufe of AulirJa was grown 
1 CM poweifal, and ooglu tfaerefure to be pulled down. Tbia 
:. wlieihcr hii own, or of French Oiigmal, made bim 
. .to hi« late Majcily tliofe fnghtful Notioni of the 
icrotii but imprwlicablc Engagcmcnti, whJcfc the Empe- 
id Spain bad entered 'w.n, ty mc Treaty concluded be- 
itbera at Vienna tn Hal Year; and thii pniduc'd the 
Treiry n* Hsnover, which louied ibii Nation with the £x- 
pc&cec! . Ittirt.a great Addition of ufelet 

-r;-j's.r .1 wa« the moft ufclefs of all, a 

;opi far fcvcral Ycarj. and large 
i. whilft our Allies the French, 
Jortuniy oioic tfifcar than we hid, from thacCon- 

^ ibenrccn the Couip of Vienna and Mjdrid. ncithar 

pHttbciafe>.M to any Expcncc, nor pick'd any Quarrda 

ctk" '-i;!i 5paJo or the Jiaipciori bu; pBrrned tneir fia^ 

I in r . .nathe Time thai oar Triic to Sp^in was en- 

ikc., .-,-.. afld our 7'rade to every othn Part of the WorU 

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Annoi4,Geo internipteiJ bjr !!puiifh Privateeri, fitted out tnj ininiKJ by 
":J^- French StiujcfL. 

^■^''^^ ' J nee«l not meniion particularTy the fcrt.-il N^f^tlS' 
tiofli, Preliminancs, P^cificaiioni, Conventions and Treat 
wbici) Aii I'lcity of Hanover gave Birth 10, for cvtty N 
ooiiaiioD we hive carried on , had every Titziy we have c 
Clydcd fmce thai Time, may be fail 10 proceed from t 
Original i and cvi:rir o'^e of them may jufliy be cilicd 
irucCopy ofthe Oiigiful Tbey hive been a perfcdScriei 
of Blunders, and, liWc u Nffl cf Ptlt-Btixe» from Germany, 
rrem 10 be enclofcd in one another, .vich nothing but Etnpci- 
rz'i in aay of then ; for I defy any Mao tn ftcw me oM 
Ailvar.tagn this Njiion hai reapcj from any Treaty we have 
r.cgotiflici for twenty Veare oill. From the laft Trt«ty, 
indeed, I mis'i the Conveniioo, It may be fnid, we bav« rofs 
tdfotnc Advdnuge, bcc4ufe it futc'd ui into a Wjr, wh 
5s cenainly mo(c r|igit>1c than ihc drflruQire and difhono' 
able Mcihcrl of Negotiation, we bad for (o many Ve»f» 
tore been iovolved in j ixid ihii War might htvc been 
frnicd with a real Advanugc, tf oar MmiKer had (faaug 
.fit to r'jfti it, either with Vigour or commoa Difcmioo 
but in the frofcc'itioti of the War hehaiadcd more weakly, 
or ma'c wickid y, than be did in the Tinte of Peace: 
^ime of Peace, he made ui become iheScoir of the Naiu)< 
•>ourd aboot OS, by the Tedioufncfi and Perplcjiry of 
Nc^o;i.ttiDni : In Time cf Wai, he hii made oi u 
Ol Scurf) to oiu Bi.emtet, &r.d an Ubjed ef P'ly to 
Friends, by the Vaflnefj of hii Preparations aru) the Pb£ 
'mlmJry it hit Aftioni. Oor Trade hi » been both oppre 
ard m^ic^vCd for the Sake of fiititig out mighty ijquidro 
tnd our Squ:droni have been fcnt ou(, either with Orders t 
do nt'thing, or wiihour Mutcrials proper for doittg tt-f 
Thii'.g- By thii CortJufl, Sir, our Enetnici have been en- 
riched with oar Spoils, and our own People opprc{red with 
Armies, which either Oioold not have been i«i(ed, or (hon'^ 
have been fcoc out to vindicate the Honour of ihcirCogoi 
Shall we io rhit Houfe fit Aiil and ies the Cauncili of 
Sovereign ^irc^ed by a MIntlter, who hat ihu), both 
Pejceand War, cxpufed oar Country toScomand l>rif)' 
1 beg Pardon. Sir. for taking ap fo much of your I'i 
but thcSubjcA is fo copiau?, that it t» difficult to pick 
thofe Fafla that are mofl proper to be mentioned ; and tr 
part of hit Irnig Ad mioifl ration ti fail of fcch opprcflivc ttii 
dangeroui Schcmef, or fach unaccountab^ Btunden, 
it is not cal'y for one who hii a tnie Regird fi?r bii K 
.and Country, to pnft ary of them over in iilcnc*. I ^i 
nicttuoiied but t izw, what 1 bare mentioned wiU 0»ew, 




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Difcooteott of tbe People are far from bsAg grounil' AnnBf4,Gee. 
bat foppolc thrr were, they tvoiild neverlhclcb be i IL if^o. 
iBftcicm howmiition far the Addrrft I am to propofc i for X.y'Y'^J 
to Mia. who hit been fo unfortubaa at to iocur the pohlic 
Hktnd, Ought Vf haw any Share in hrs MajWly'a Confidence 
pr Comdit. if hii Msjcdy were fenfihie of ii, I am fure. be * 

tJttM • Rc^rd for (lie Afft-eiJon^ of hii People, that lie 
"" " not allow fuch ■ M»n to approach his Pcifoo or Pa,- 
and li it ii our Oucjr to intoim bis Majclty, how de. 
k'-e this Mimtter it :o the Majority of titi People, we 
' ;o uJce the proper Way for giving oor Sovereign this 
tioQ, which ii, by adJrctring him to remove fuch a 

il*i-r ffrim l.ii CoUDcilS 

■iir, Tifpore this M>nifter had never been 
i^^^j w. uu, t..>itic. Enor. or Ovcifight in hi* public Con- 
■d; fapporc the People had all alonj^ hem perte<)ly pleai'd 

■:■■'■ *■- ^^ '' in, yei the very Length of it is, in a 

' Cnufe for removing htm , Tt i* a molt 
^^n^nuv.] I xiin^ in 4 ftce Government, \.u allow any MAb 
.B ooannoe tou loo^ in the Poireflion of great Power : Molt 
LomOKM-aciltbi htve been overturnei'i by thi* vtry Over- 
l^ht i Uti ia this CouQtry, «ve know how difficult It lui 
Mtea prorrd. far oar Pailtament to draw an old Favourite 
JhMa bcbiikd tbc Throne, even when be hat. been guilty of 
lie aMd beniooi Crimes. I wifh ihii may not be our Cile 
titmi fbr cho* I Ihill nut hy, not have I at prefent 
|Oocifior for (hewing, thnt the Favaarite I am now com- 
Mog rf faai been guilty of hcinoot (Jrime«, yet J will 
n ita very general Sufpicion ng:iii>ll him. that 
> a n juilifiKl by the prefcrt Siiustion of odr 
lib At Home and Abroad, and thnt 11 is ridiculous 

^ :Jiit any proper Diicovery (hould be made, ai 

u be It ia Pbl&ffioo of it) the Proofs, and hat lh« 
ittoo of all the Peniilties the Crc»wn cun inKiA, as 
I «t oT all the Favouri the Crown can beflow. Remove 
from the KingS L'otincilt and Prefcncet remove him 
iboTe high Officer Jnd Pauer be ii now poOVffed of, 
bai been guiiiy of any Cnroci, the Proof may then 
Vtoiac St. aod ibe WitncfTct againfl him will not be afraid 
Mfcir- IMl you do thu, ic i* tmpofTib'c to dcttrBUac, 
b« i> goitty or innocent t and, ronh>1eriRg the unt-i 
OstnooT againll him, it i» high Time to reduce htm 
CoadibDo. aa that he may be brought to a fair, lo 
tl. and a (ItiA Account. If be were eofifclooi of 
^ bek( «Btire!y innocent, and had a due Regard to the 
fccaiiir aad G^ory of bit Miller and Sovereign, he won Id 
iCKrfcio havep«n Jiimfell into litii> Coaditiua long be- 

fete 




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Amo i4,Cco. fore tliia "nine.: Since he bas doc cbonght fit lo do lb, ail 
U- ■740' our Duty to cndcaTouT to do it for him i and thei«biti| 
X.y^\'^*^. flull conclude with movtog. That an humble Addrefc I 
prefented tohii Majefty, that he would be gncigoil/ pj«il| 
to lemore the Right Honourable Sir Robert Wafpolc, 
* of the moft noble Order of the Garier^ &r& Comm 

Chancellor and Under-Treafurer of the Ejechequer, 
of hit Majefiy's moft Honourable Frivy Council, (rou I 
Majelty's Frefance and Councils for ever. 

Mr. Pelham. « 
Si a» 

Mr. Pelham. * ^^ ""^ ^^^^ ^^'^ '^^o threatened with foine fqch 
ai this, I have for a long time expeAed it with Iiq 
becaufe I imagined, they who thus thrFAtcned hid 
fome Oifcoveries. which the World had never been k i\ 
Icaft apprifed of. I little expcAed tbey would iui<i-| 
tempted toblackeuthe Charadex of a.n Honourable 
man, who has ferved bis Country for many Vears, la 
high Offices, and in three feveral Reigns, and alwaya, io 
Opinion, with great Wildom and integrity : I fay,. 1 " 
cxpe£ted to find any Attempt made to blacV.cn fuch & 
tleman*> Chara£ler, upon bare Sarmiles aod^ general 
ments, which have been all fully aofwei-ed, again md 
bothwichio Dcortand without; and X mud fay, X «» 
much furprifed to find this Attempt made by Gem 
who have never been fufpeded of being Enemies to 
prefent happy Eliablifiunent. If the Nation bad new ai 
been fo unfortunate, as to have a Majority of this H 
oonfiiling of fucb as were fecret Enemies to the Frotei^i 
Succeifion, I fliould not have wondeied to find thl& Gcadr 
man's Cbara&er attacked, as it hat been once btforc by ii^ 
Men : I (hould not have wondered to have heard a Mo^ 
made for removing hioi from bii Majafly^^ Councils u^ 
Prefence. for this very Reafon, becaafc he baa flieWA, ilv 
he deferves to be there; but I am furprifed to hear fuclti 
Motion made by thofe, who have always prorcJtcd, and I 
believe firccrely profeflid, themfelves Friends to our h*0 
ConUitution, and to that upon which it depends, our pretoM 
happy Eftablifhment; becaufe fuch a Motion upon fuch t 
flebder Foundation I take to be inconfident wiih both. 

* I (hall grant, Sir, that this Houfc mayaddfi^fs theiud| 
to remove any one of bis Servants : 1 fball grajjt, v^ km 
Precedents for fuch an Addrefs ; but I will fay, tb< 
dents are very few, and I believe, no one upon our 
for removing a Minifter, who was not accufel of. 
abac was acRiiowIedged to be a Crime. Ji thii 




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;! Hal fheHoaoonble Gentleman who midefou (be Anno 14, Get. 
I, inentionrd any one tumculir Faft that is «cknow> 11 1740 
tD be ft Crime? He hys, the Gcatlfman Jie defim ly^^^J 
I' an unpopular Miniller: That he hai in- 
■cd of thf Prople In geneni ; ond that ng 
jit :q be confin.iH in his M»jcfty'» Councils or 
wbo has had tlic Mr»fortunrtoiinro. ThitArgn- 
r. has, I think, ibe Mitfortane to laboar under two 
liont. Thr Prcmifci I muft look oft, «i a foit of 
le QucQton 1 and the Condulion ts not, f think, 
fiytn the Prcmifei. The Honourable Cimclemn, 
io6a(l i» the Sabjed of thii Debarr, may mx. ptr- 
chc Minion of tke Mob, which bo XliniOer ever 
c», who jMtfucs. wifely. &etdi[y, and invariably, the itdc 
ricft of hu Counir)'; cfprciallj'ttf he continues for 1 
Nnaber of Ynn to hitre a principal Shite in the 
aioifiit'"" V^- Popolace in all Countrtn lore to b« 
w ',r«, and nflonifhcd with cxtnordinatjf 

lib. i..i.,-o-re they ore «pt to grow weary of a 
' nrlio roniiTiuei long in Place, and does not, with or 
Rofbn, ihvLilve hit Countrp in \Var, which is the 
Meiliad hy which he can crilertaiit ihcm with wotider- 
tEvmtt. {t>jt thn: ttit\ Gentleman has incurred the Ha- 
the Setter ri.ri t»f People in grneral, I belie»c, will 
.kf, hy tlie Fate of this very Motion; 
J thii Houfc are iheir Rtrprcrcntatives 
ill i'w^vi iiJ'ig? of their Scinimenta hy whjt appears to 
SentiniKnti cif the Mijotity ot this i\l{cmbly, 

rer, (ii[j»ofc. Sir, it were irdobirably l:oe. that 

itfler tiad incurred the Difpleaf-ire of the Majority 

ilu oi Pe^pl.-, I do nut iliink cfiii a good Rofon 

ling hfi Char. fler with fucH a Stigma, ai an AJ- 

thn HonUe to remove him frotn hit Mujcl^y't 

I and Prcfrrcr for ever. A fjintms Poet, whn fhtfwed 

£OW( ' at well ai an exteOent I'lr'ge of 

}, Mt. ;- -^ .- J, of a virtuou* Man, laid ih,i do*ft 

I Mil 1(11 ', 

Aaa /amit aut famii /laau 
^ittrit fapuUru aura. 

People; eren rbofc of the better fort, we hut «rjr bad 

of a Man'i Virtoe or Wifdom, and ihey are much 

! JslgKiof a MiniHrr*sConiiu(l m pofiricai Aflfiitsi h»r 

to tu()g# rightly of thn, we mutt have a thorotigh 

Kamfedsc. tut only of the r&terclh and Clrcutnttancc? of 

a«Cc«Rt'T. trot of theCitcumliaiicc*. Jnttreft^, and Views 

jBJ >n »liC tomgn Conrn we have any thinj* to do with 1 aoii 

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A.rino u,Gco ui order (o know the Views of iortign Cooni, we Bolbe 
fl tT¥> pcrfcd Y Bcquainied uitli the Cbara£lci» of ihoCc i^hobcar 

^/~V~^ the prinripAl Sway at each. Can w« fuppoiie aay Jvhm «f 
iiUcnor kank (o have fuch k Knowledge ? It ii a Know- 
letJgc, Sir, tbal cin be scqjired by none but [hofe c( lugh 
Rank, or (ucb at have beeo in Cooie cmicent Sation i aM 
therefore wc are not to CDOtirtnn the Condud of a MinilLer, 
?ur no other Realoo but bcciulc it is compUinrd of bf ibe 
Majority of (he People, iiar ought fuch a general CctnpbjBi 
to be admiued at a good flealon for removiog him troio tlie 
King's Councili or Preicoct. Among the maoy other Per* 
fcAioos of our ConlltlutioQ. this ti oae. aivd none cf tbc 
leal), that the Cammoo-wealih ii not to be deprived of tic 
Service or Advice of a Hile aod fuithful MagiUrate or M>ai< 
flcr. fur noothci RcafoD. but beuufe a gcneia', but growul* 
kf) Clamour hai been lufcd Againft fome Parci of bia Coa- 
d(i!l 1 litetrlorc^ whatever CUonourt nvay have been raifol 
Bgamit lome Parts of his Conduct, they ought not of thetti' 
fclvei U) be of aoy Weight in tbii l>cbi{r, even iho' it were 
proved, tbai the Honourable Gci.ilenuD, now dciited to be 
remttved, hnd all along had not only the chief, but the ible 
DircAioQ of all our public Affnirs, which ba« not bccti ai- 
trmptcd to be proved, tho' I coofcfk, it ha» been llroogly 
(lllrrted ; btu if I Ihould take upon n>e toaHrrt tbecoatrtn', 
1 moll think I have an equal Title to be believed, bcaw, 
oonfideiing huw luog, and in what Staiiofis 1 have fcfVcd htl 
Majefly^ n>y Knowledge of the Fid mtill be at IcjO a.s wtU 
fbandM.andlhope.my Veracity ii equally to be dcpcndedoo. 
• The Grouadi of the Clamours and Complaint*. ci'Jwr 
within Doors or without, aie therefore to be liriAly rx- 
aniinrd, bccaufe they ate the only Arguments that can ban 
any Weight in tbii I>cbate ; and as there has been MXhllg 
new advanced upoti ihit Head, nhaievcr Plealurc Genlrnvea 
iisaf take in repeating the Objcfitons that were made, m tbe 
idpc6ive and only proper Times, to the feverut Stcpi of nrr 
public Condisd now complained of. I hope, Sir, they wfl 
pardon me* it I do not take op your Time with rcpe«iB| 
the Anfweri then m»de to them, which were fo btiihflciT, 
that all the Meifurei now complained of, except, i 
but onr, mri wiih the Approbttioo of one or both H • ■ 
FwliiaiTRt.orwiththefiul .Approbation of cither; buc.lotu 
Ai it prftcrcded, it met with the Approbation of this Hoisiit. 
Aud It wa^ nqi dropt becaule it was bad in itJcli. botbcrurft 
of the Spirit (bat h>c! I^co rsifld ag. ir>tl j^ without DooiL 
la all Countriei there at cemin Ptrjvdicei which iiotluN| 
boi ahfotuie Power cao get t:ie licttcr of In thit Country ■ 
gcncrjl ExcidE hat been made luch a Buj^bcar, dut tJsc iVio- 

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_ in^ u every Tbiog wkich hai bot the leaft Anno 

ibUnce of it j ind thit WA> Utc CftCe with reg»nj to the "- 

[^oJ [t(«Q propofoi for taiCng the Ouiin upoa Wine 

iLco, wtiich uiighi 41 utell h4V*c been called agcnerAj 

m a ifetxtal Excifc. A gcncrj Excife, Sir, U 

I * Dtity it >iihi upon every Thing 4 Mao cao eat, 

4imk^ or <oulLjmri jnd tint Duty tailed not upan the 

tafportcT ind Manuf^tuter, but upon the Reuikf ind 

OrftiTT" Thii. iodced, would be a terribte Gricnnce; 

^B> was ibcre any Thing like this in the Excise Scheme? 

^Ki tkac Time tbeie wcic. and are (lilt, heavy DiUiei apott 

by V' ^ilom upon the ItDporuiion. which had oca- 

(ooei'i ^'v«. . itadt uta Abvici ; thcrelbre, to prevent thefe 
Frtwii. ind to crcour^ige the fair Trader, it wis propofcd ta 
rai^ cIkv, Sot :hc future, noc upon the Confuiner, for IbJs 
woald han louk'd lomcihing like a gcnetal F.xcife, but upoo 
lh» Renilen. and upon them only. This, I ftil) think. Sir, 
wt* i>cttl»er a bt4, nor an uppfcQivc. nor a dangcrou Scheme; 
bu iJ^ ap^D a mote mature Dciiberttion. it h^id appeared to 
be (d* ifte Honourable Gentleman, who at firit pjtonized it, 
t» not to be cuudrmned, beciiulc »t (oun ai he faw that the 
Ptapir f h(M.(<<it It lu, tbo' he perhaps thought otherwire, yet 
httrr- itup. Minillen, Sir, areaai infAlIible : No 

|9od >)LI prrtcnd lobrfo) and therefore, the moft 

wecaa trxpcii t, thai tbry fbould alter their Conduit ai fooa 
u tbey ^icevcr ih^ir Errur. One ut me wiCell and greaiefi 
Sof«ri rgnt we ever hod, (ho' ^dvifrd by a very good lod 
able Miniilcr, fdl into an Error ■ ( oican the Cafe cf Mo> 
aopolin. ia Queni h'.a ibeth'i Time : but ai foon at Ihe dif- 
oe*cr<d it, ttie corre^iKl it and upua that Occafion made fuch 
a Speech, by Way cf Anfwer to the .Add.rfs of this Houfs. 
^ta (Mcbt to be huDg up io the Cabinet of evtry fuvereigri 
^Hmii. Tbe Pariiintco: wax fo lar from coadcmn:ng the 
^KiMv, for hii having advtted thcfe \fonopolie$. that thin 
^^Hffent A rolema iJkputJttioa to thank the Queen for re- 
HHSlbct Patiflti, in Aniwcr towhich flie made ihc Speech 
Ikkve menttaned. 'I'herrfote, foppofing the Fxcjfc Scheme 
have bees a vety bio cine, kc bave no Keftlon ti> blame 
ty MbiSer for it ; beiiuie it was gifen up at foon at it 
JmiiuI to bedifigTceaUc to the People. 
M to t)ic Meibodi that were takeit in the Year 
rsi, lor rcltoriBg public Credit, and lor pumOi-rg tbofe 
ittid brought ti to the very Brink of Delliu^liL'n, they 
fe Bueh approved of at tha; Time, both within Doora 
wiikout, Utu I am furpinud to hear tbam oow com- 

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'Anno u.Gm pbtoed of. The pul>ttc Credit w» in a iliortTimr 

^■^L^ ally and amaaingly rellored.and the Guilty were condi_ 

,V.^T^w paniQied, without eithttr Sefcriiy or Partiality t and by it- 

-^ocing the lotcTCft payable to the Proprietor! of ihc Soutli- 

.SCk Stock, as it wat [ben augmented and cHabiKhed, a moll 

■ catnordioary Advantage hai accrued to the Public. Tbcfc 

:Fitfts are lo notorious, ard the Arguments in Favottr of whtt 

'mi done at tbit Time, are io recent in every Mao's Mcno* 

ry, that 1 (hould not trouble you with Proofi of the formtr, 

pr a Repeiition of the latter. And for [be fame Reafon, I 

think it anncccfTiry to trouble you with x Rc-juflificatioD of 

the Hanover Treaty, or any of the Meafures conle<]uco( 

thereupon. But as to the Complaint relating to the Con- 

veoiton, and the Argumenti made ule of in Fivotir of the 

AddreTi propofed, when that Treaty wat under the Confide* 

ration of thia Houfe, as it ii fopiething new, 1 fliall beg 

IcAve to make Ibme few Remarks upon it. 

' In the lirll Place, J mull observe. Sir, that tliore who 
make this Complaint feem to have forgot the Station ta 
which the Honourable Ocntlrman, whofe CharaAer ft now 
attacked, bai liwaya fervcd bri Majrlly. Even fuppefe be 
were, as th«y icprtfent him, the chief aad fole Mioiflcr, it 
would be impofibte for bim to govern and direA all eat 
foreign Negotiations, as well as all the Affjiri of the Tm* 
tary. He rauft leave the Msnagemcnt uf our foreign Af> 
fiin to otherN attd mud take his Informaiioa, a« lo FiAt, 
from tho:c that ate entrufled with the Management of (bem ; 
therefore, when be is to talk of (hem in this Houfe, or any 
tthcie elfe. be may be impoled on si well as otbeisi and 
cunlrqucntly, ruppvfc he had laid in this Houl'e, that bti Ci- 
tholir Mnjeliy wa^ inclined to live in Peace with this Nl- 
don. or thAt the Spaeifh Coun feemcd willjog to ;agTee to 
rcalonable Tcrmt lor fecuiiog our Trade and Naviguion in 
ihe American Seat, when in Kafl it appeared lo be otlierwife, 
we arc not from thence to conclude pofiiively, that be af- 
finned whoibe knew to be falfe: It wouid be more charrta* 
hie, and, I am fare, more confonani to his CharaAer, to 
fuppofe. that he hud bimrdf been impofcd on, and that ht 
had given lame Credit to our NrgotiAtor*, for he waa himfcif 
Booc of tiicsi, than tbey defcrvcd. 

' But, ^ir, I am tiitl of Opinion, that the FiAi wen soc 
etherwife. I an convinced hii Catholic Majefly hiafirU' 
trai inclined [O lire in Peace with tbis Nation ; and I la 
coDviDced the Court of Spain would have given lu Securiiy 
for the Freedom of our Trade and Navigation In the A.iiir> 
rican Seu, if ^ny Mc[i]od could bare beeu contrii-cd for 
peventirg ibc illicit Tnulc cvtad oa with thcv Scitiemena 

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LI America. Thli 1 Tittle Time might probably bavc pro- Anno u. Ceo 
if the Peop'e here cou'd iiave been prevailed an to 
had Patience, and m (hit Cafe, the Coiireniion would 
-' *: good Foundation for a (olid and ladirtg Peace j 
u'onEd (ithfy the Feuple here, but iiiiincdute 
r. and Sctutity, or an immediaie War. We know 
were that inrtigaied the People 10 be fo pcremp- 
tir Demand) ; and \ (hsll not fcrupte to own iciis 
ijrOpibioB, thai, by the violent Spirit JlirroJ up among onr 
fcoplc here at Hume, oar Miniflcrs, of whom the Gentlc> 
MH DOW complained cT is bat one, were, in fome ojcarure, 
farood into Meiiures that hare fioce forced the Natioa into 
iWir, 

' Gcndesnea m»y lay what thejr pleafc of the Sum of 
MoDc/ agreed bv Spain to \x paid to ui> for the D-Jtnagei 
ivrftdl&iDvd by the Depredations ; but. Sir, 1 will new again 
•fim. iKai they agreed to pay us ico.ooot. and would 
kavc Immei'uttly given Ordcn for the Payoieot of it upoa 
tkaif Crvrroufi in the WelMndics; but we know the I'e- 
db*. :.e(e Payments, therefore we lofifted upon hav- ■ 

ieg V Money, ind upon that Condition wc iigrccd. 

1 t: -ly agreed, 10 allow ^.j.oool- for prompt Pay- 

oaen; reduced tbc -oo.oool. to ijj.oool. and out of 

tfati ttwis both reafonable and jui>, to allow them todcdi>ft 
wbtt wai dot 10 ihcm. on Account of the Shipi agreed to be 
tcflot'd to them by theTre^ity in 1721, amounting to 60000I. 
winch rrduced what they bad agreed to pay to at oa Account 
of O&mign to 9), 000. 

* Thu«, $ir, it appear}, thAt they had ft^ually allowed us 
iDOjOOol. in lieu of Damages. Thisw.-isi( gre;it(leaIaboPB 
the Value of sll the Ships chcy had ever before acknowledged 
to have bfcn unjjtlly fcizcd or taken rrom u» ; and there- 
fore, their sgrcring to pay as ihii Sum, was a tacit Ac- 
Imwledgmeflt of their having been in the wrong ; and, 
'itboat sny Regard to what u-ai due to them frotn our 
South Sea Company, the B^Ianca a I hive llaied i(, and as 
It wu ftated by the ConreBtion, would, I bclicve, have 
barn paid to ui at the Time appointed, if we had recalled 
ov Squadron from Gibr^liar; but. confidenng the violent 
Spini that prevailed here at Home, cur MiQiIlcr:> cou'd not 
KUDn 10 do (0, for fear of having our domeilic Tranquil- 

»fi/! jrlxil by bme furioui, popular Commonoo ; and tho 
I .n looking upon the Continuance of our Sqiia- 

; -. '-'^ ai an Iniult upon their Crown and King- 

^ re^ :.- The95.oool. flipalated by the Conven- 

'1 i^. i...^. had no ftight to look upon our keeping 
« ^aaJroa i( Cibntlur ai an Infalt, is certaiDly true ; for 
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ntiH, Geo 19 tt is now the PrD|ierty of Grest Britain, we may al««7t 
IL 1740. iteep a Squadron iMre if we pleife i but, u we had never 
before done To, ai we had never fcnl or kept a S^kuuiroa 
there, unlcft •Pbhcn we had a Diffutc^iivith fome of th« 
neighbouring Powen, and as we Kad then 00 Dilpure wiili 
any neigbbouring Power, except Spiin, it wntraiunUy 10 ba 
(sppofed, I believe, all Europe did luppofc. thjt we kept oui 
S^ttidron there, with a Dc()gn to oblige theSpiniatds m 
peifoim punflually what they had promii'ed by tnc Cornren- 
tioai and in thi* Light it mult beadraiued, thai the Com 
of Spain had fome Reafon to look npon itai an Infult t (0 
tbo* I fliouM be very ready (o do a Man Jufticr, 1 (bogld 
like to have hitn lizad with bii Cane over my Had till 1 
did if : I fliould certainly difdain 10 do him Juilice, ta k>B{ 
ai be flood in that Podure. 

• From bcnce we miy kc. Sir, that the Argoincnii mada 
ufe of in favour of the Addrcfi propofcd, when uc had ihs 
Conreniion under our Con lid em ion, can be no Obj''Aioa to 
the Charadtrr of ibc Hucouiable GeotlcmaQ atiatked by 
thii MoiioQ ; and ai to our Condud of the War, it ti, | 
am fure, what he has noihing to do with, any other Wii* 
tfaao ai bfing one of his M3Jcl()'» Coancii t to that whu- 
ever un be bid agatnft oar ConduA of the War, mull mili* 
late againll every Member of hii Majcfty't Piivy Coundl ai 
npch as ag:iin{l him. Bu: the chid, and, indeed, the only 
proper Charge that bai been made ■ninfl him i>, hii hav 
iDg endeavoDred to obtain a cotrupt hifl-jence over a Maj»- 
rity in both Houfes of Pailiairent : for that he hat already 
obtained itich an Influence, will not, I hope, be exprcfily, 
affirmed, bowcTcr flroogly it may be infmuated. Tliti 
indeed, a heavy Charge : bat furely Qcnilcmen do not 
prA we fhoald take tbii upon tbcir tfje Mxit. It i» a Pi 
which, if uue, mtj certainly be proved : Let any one Mem 
berof ih>i Houfe rife up, let any one who baa beca a Mem' 
ber eomr, and Uy, that the Perfon now accofed ever dc 
bim, or tempted him either by Thrcati or Proinif<:s to v 
againfl hi» Confctcnce io Parliament ; and we ihall 
h>ve it in our Power toconfider tbe Weight of the Ev 
offered i but furely we o-jgbr not to condemn a Klaii upoa 
general Charge uofupported by any Proof 

* The Gentlemen, it is true. Str, who have brought th: 
Charge, have ofiered tu'o Things in Support of ri, wk 
requicc an Immediate Con&deratioo. Toe one i>, a (uri cyf 
prefumptive Proof, and the oihcr, a pretended Confcffinn. I 
uaU beg leave to examine both t and firfl, ai to the pi 
fumptivc Proof, tber fay that fcTcral Pcrfooi, and fome 
high Ruk. have been tamed out of every Ofice and " 

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r^smi dkey hcM it the Plea(ure or the Crown, for eo Annm^, Cee. 
MftCT Bffnmn lleafo*, buc bccaofe they or thtrir Friendi I^- 1740' 
op9«{fldibi« Mi*iiil*-.-'t Wtifures in Pariiamcrt. Here, Sir, ^*^^'y^\J 
I ■>■> lAifeivf, chat tlic King hii. b)* our CoDftitucton, la 
mltmoil Prcro|>ative to employ whit Seivjnu or Offirert 
he- pl«liei in tt.c cxrcuovc Pan of our Govrrninrnt, and 
EUJ> Imploy or diif>:Ke wlioui be pIeJ^e^(vilhout nfliinethe 
iUvictol aay Minilicr i adJ thefcfbre. ihe Exercire of tliis 
W ww esB Bcirrr be cturgnl tn the Aeconni of ar.y Mini- 
Irr, I AmQ %nax, thit the turning a (Jetrtkm.in oat of hJi 
Poi ia tiM Service of the Crown, (or vuiing according lo 
CaaCeicace ia Patliament, ur for oppoGng any Court-Mn- 
bra he eoald nor approve of, wooid be a very wrong and a 
dftOfcroaA Cxercifeof hii Prerogative ; but at the fame time 

Ra£ take aotke, (hat an Oppofliion in Parliament may 
mch, ms will iffard a juf) and legal Rrafon for turning the 
^[^r out al the Service of the Crown : When it is in- 
lertljr xai iodccenily carried on. oi when thcOppofilion 
waceeda itoc fton Honour or Confcierice. but riom mere 
RdinniBmt, bcc^dfe the Cientleiran has met with a Deniftl 
Ifcff — *■ ■'■•, nbich hii MajeQy did not think fit to graar. 
■r ihelc Carej.cven a Man't behaving or voting 

Tff»r,:.ni<:vi, Will be a good Reafon for difiniffing him the 
Service of ia<e Crown. Bcfido ihefe.a Gcntleraao may be 
gctltf flf feverjl fam of OScitce& no way relating to hli 
ncbtrknir inPjrliameni, wiiKh highly dcierve a DirmilDon 
^Wi Cbc Xing'! Service; and iho' hii Maji-ily infi-cli the 
f«lvkcnt, be may, from bit naturut 1'cndcrni;f», and in 
pncUtjruy to the Ofi^iider, be prevailed vn ncK to publilli 
■dscfavr the Oflrnce. Thertfort. when a Men:ber of Par- 
laacat T-J the Service of (he Crown, thu' hi» Ma- 

jrty ik>r mil fit tt) declare ihe OfTincc, it i* a Breach 

cf Chanty in m, »nd a Fdilurr m Duty to out S<3veieign, lo 
It?p4ft, tbat bit Mnjttljr dilniiiTed him for no ocner Rnfbn, 
\j£ fur corfditig (fac DUlaieiof hit Hunour and Coafcieoce 

2?J-'M--,<fK 

ir, with regard ro the pretended ConfcfuoD or 

• - b, which bat been repreiemcd u fuch a hcinooi 

(^nac 8cppo& the Honourable (Jcatlemso had tnade ufe 
'f '•■-■ *«fjr Word* thar have been mentioned, we ooghi not 
•1 oJce tbciD in a wrong SeDfe, if ibey will bear x 
,.-jb ooe i and ibctcfgrc we mght lo fuppofr, ihat he 
■cKMC. br oppofiog a MioiAcr'a Meaiures in Parliainetit, 
*m u OppOBiioQ [bat proceeded from a Conviction of 
Actf fanmf wraag, bat an Oppafition (bat pioccrdrd frntn 
■cTc RefcatncBit from a ^hujvi Spini. or from i liccrct 
[i|« lo atapti ihe Kiog to cotDply with fome uotcafoa- 

able 



( 86) 

Anno 1 4, Geo able Requell ; and in either of thefe Cafeg, [ will join with 
^^J^- the Honourable Gentleinan ii: faying, Tliat he would be t 

)^/r'^\J pitiful Fellow of a Minifter, if he did not advife the King 
to difmil's from his Service, a Man who made fuch an aa- 
worthy Ufc of his Seat in either Hoafe of Parliament. 

' I have ngw, I thiokf fliewn, Sir, that no partkalir 
Crime has been fo much as allcdged, much lefs prored, 
againft the Gentleman whofe Cbara&er li propof^ to be 
ftigmatized by an Addrefs of this Houfe ; that oo material 
^jedion has been made againft any Part of his Coodod, 
but what has been before anlwered to the Satisft&ion of the 
Nation, as well as of this Houfe; and I hope 1 have fall/ 
anfwered every thing new, that has been Aarted in this De- 
bate i therefore I mull think, that our agreeing to this Mo- 
tion would be a mollfignal Breach of ourConftitution, and 
a molt dangerous Encroachment upon,the Prerogative of the 
Crown. We know. Sir, what a Ferment was raifed ia the 
Nation in a late Reign, by a Proceeding of this fortt wc 
know how it was then declared,'* * That addrefling the King 
lodifplace his Friends upon bare Surmifcs, before th^ legal 
Trial, or any Article proved, was illegal, and invenmg the 
Iaw. by making Execution go before Judgment." Do 
not now let us fail into the fame Error, Icit it flioukl produce 
the f<me Effrfls. 

• Before I conclude, Sir, I mull take notice of the Aigi- 
ment drawn from the Length of Time this Gentleman bu 
kid a Share in the Admin iHration : If the Form of oar 
Government were altogether Republican, there might be 
lome Weight in this Argument : but this is another Advao- 
Mge of our happy Conllitution, that an able, a good and 
wife Minifler or Magillrate may be continued in the Seirke 
of his Country, for his whole Life, without any Danger to 
our Conllitution, becaule the Attachment of the People u 
their Kii;g and Royal Family, will always prevent anjr bad 
H£e£ls from his Ambition ; and the Controul of a Mailer or 
Suvereigii, as well as of two Iloufes of Parliament, will 
always prevent his being guilty of very enormous PtaAiccii 
or u'lil n: all 'i'imes, even when he is in the Zenith of hit 
Pcucr, be able to difcover and punilh them, if he doald: 
So that there is as little in this Argument, as in any Mher 
tiiat has been advanced is favour of this MocioOi uA 
tuerei'orc I Hiall give my Negativeto the Quellioo. 

Sir 

* ^<T»A Lit/f, Time III, Pagt 144. 




C87 ) 



A nno I i, Cce. 
II. 17 40 





WJolm Dvrnanl. 

• ftcft»r« tim Motioa was'madr, T expeded and I find, I Si\T John 
taiDot dt£ippointed, thxt i-nt^eAVoors would be ufed to p«f lUnCanl.- 
Iloutr, ibal we uu^ht not Lo ^ddrcfi for removing 
tr. anlcf^ w« have lach Proofs a^iioft bim, ai m»y 
rkoc firount! for itnpcxching him. Thii fccms to 
Scope of [he Argument made u{« of by the Hououri- 
10 who I'pctkc \tH, and if thii ivcrr to be admit- 
never could be any Tuch Thing a an AddrcTs to 
Mimltcr I fot \i 3, Miniller bai been guilty of 
Ohdb, ftnd W any Member of (hii lloufe fli-juld have In- 
, cictvof. Bad fuflkieni Kvidencc for fuppoiting the 
beoufbt not cotnovc(or:in /Vidrcft to remove fuch 
tr; iiwouldbc hi< Dui^ to Iiy hii Informaiion fully 
iloule, and to couclucic with a Moctotl for im- 
eiilier of Migh Treafon, or of high Crimci 
lOon, accordinj; to the Nature of the Charge, 
ncak, the moll continuKl Serici of blundering 
eoaJd never be admitltd as * Koondition for ad- 
dfctfiagCMir Sotereign ra remove him ; and thui, if he con- 
tmmd IK tBc F«your cd'bii Prince, which it not al all im- 
peCbte. be might go on b'underitig, till he had blundered 
{■■■tfclf, btl KiD^ ktid bis Country into irretrievable Pcr- 

j^^ t Onll grant, Sir, that ihia Hoofe has ferdom [proceeded 
to aJdre6 <or the Remorsl of a Minifler, Dnlrr^ tte wa* fuf- 
[Of foRCthing that was acknowledged to be criminal. 
I did not proceed froiD itg being neceftiTy to alledge 

ig r-- ' ;;■. a Foundation for fuch Bn Addrcfi, but 

ne... • aregeoerally wicked 11 well ai weak: 

l^r WcAKncii liicy run thcinfelvo into MealuTCi wfaicb 
tbc7 find ibejr canaot juflify, and fjr which they ought to 
be iCTPO«e d ,and ibrn to prevent iheir Rcmo^ral, they le^ 
iWniclnn mto Mc^Turci for which ihey ought to b« pu> 
adhed. Thii 11 the ime Rraiun why fuch AilJrefTct have 
frnmenUf brra (ouaded upon theSufpirion cl Wiclceitnef'i 
«wcfl 11 Wcaknt-i i bcciriic when there wcff two Reaffrts 
Jot rcMoring .1 Miniitcr tioin the Kin^'t Cu'inrlli, (lie 
•tn% cenjtnly in ibe right to infitt upon bmh. V\tt 
It be Wciktxtt, or let it be WtckedntO, for which a 
a to be removed, w|ll any Gentletnan fay, that ic 
ry (o memioa particular Ka^g, and that we ou^hc 
» kavca Proof of ihefe f'a^t), before we ciniddrcfi for ;lx 
Jlasc*'! of^* Mmttlerf The Honuurable Gectleman utlce 
ci bmtiiv^iiti ud gencnl Argument** at if they could not 





( 88 ) 

Anno I4. Geo illbrd the lea.l Ground f^r fuch so Addrcft. Sir, they not 
II 174P' only iffani Cuine Ground, but (hry are the only Ground 

^^■^^"^J upon wKich I'uch an AdJrcfj cAn be founded i bocaufc wnca 
there ii *ny Thing ^ri))rr thatti lure Surmife, we ought, u 
' J have laid, lu go farther than a Uire AddreCi- 

* But by fuch an Adilrefi, it fecnt, we are lo blackra the 
OiitaAcr of 30 Honourable Gcotkman who hai reived hit 
Country for many Vcirs. aod during fcverd Rngns, with 
great Wifdum and Integrity, it ic a great Mufortuoe, Str, 
to thofe wno hare To high an Opinion of hii Wifdom ud 
Integrity, that tne general Voice ot their Coaotry u againJl 
them, and that the Siiujtion of Affatri. both at home aad 
abroad, frems to be a demon Drat ive Proof agaioll thcmt but 
let the Honourable Gentleman'* Cliarrtftcr for Wifdom aad 
Integrity be cvrr fo great, it cann>.'( be bLckened by tke 
Addrets or thii Houlc, bccaufe a Man's Character doct not 
depend upon whit a Cix^rc of Jultice doei or refuTes to do 
Againtt hitn. but upon the Opinion the World hai of »hai 
ft Court of Jullicc ought to do. Should we addred the King 
to remove one iluic n ucneraUy (uppoted to be an upright 
and wiie Mmiilcr, wouid ihat Addrdi blacken bu Clunc- 
terf No. Sir, it wou>d only blall our own. Should wc re* 
fufe to addreft the King to remove one who i* gcnenlif 
thought lobe a wejk and wicked Minidcr. would ctut Rs. 
fdlil brighten hii Char^iAer i No, Sir, but it would bUckcft 
ihe Charafler of this Houle in the Efd of all thok Mko 
fcftd luch »n Opinion of him. 

* I hope Gcnilemen will confider this, and if ihrf 69, 
I nm furc, they muU teficfl more feiiouHy upon theCoalb' 
luiton of this Houie thaa they leem to do, when thr^ lay, 
ttut the Sentimtnn of the Majority of the better Son of 
People in the Nation, are to be judged of from what ap- 
pears to be the Sentiment! of the Ma^ortiy of this Hoalc. It 
u well known, i«r, how une(]ua11> the Nation it reprcfestal 
in thii Houfc, I believe it will be allowed, that the Lit» 
of IfondonaiKi WeUminller. the Borough of Souihwsilc. aid 
the County of Middlcfcx, conuin at lead one £fth of ihi 
People cf the whole Nation, yet they have bttt ten ftrprt- 
lenutivcs in thi> Hou'e. which makes 00c qoitea jjth nn 
01 the Number of Members in this A^rrobly : and what b 
very remarkable. 1 believe, itwij appear, whatever miyfal 
the Fate uf thii Motion, that cfthete ten, there will bcchkt 
upon the ASnnative Side of the Qaeeftion, If weooBMr 
our CouBtiesapd great Cities, and compare thcni with ou 
lillic Boroughs, Ihe Difptoportion will be found almcA u 
great, which ibcws. that we ought not to )udge of tbc Sn- 
(imcau of tbc bcncr Sort of People, from wlut ippcaia teb« 




{^9 ) 

ScotineBto of the MijoHljr of thU Houfci and i( Wt Annoi4,Gco 
>-Xo*AicT, chit fevvnl Gentlemen of ibia Houfe nice upon "• i7<(o. 
Ucn to voic. in nttny Qoeltioni, Agtinlt ihe declared Sen- C^V"*^ 
^_ltneMi of :heir CouUitucati, tbe F»U«ctournc{sof this way 
^k)f i«dguig will appvsr lllll more apparent. Theicforc, I 
^■mU Bot hive Gentlemen plume ttirmfelvei too much in i 
^^^Krity cf thi> HduIc. or conclude from thence, that ihey 
^^IHr • M-'jortty of the better J Jtt uf People upon iheir Side 
tf tlic QjcAion i for if the Members of ifais Houfe ire to 
be fuppcricxl to Tpeik the Seflitmcflli of their (.'cQtlituenii, 
and if «e ci.<nliilcr tttC PL>Ce*. and nol the PcrTons. that vote 
rj^ltion, it will appear, that llie Sen- 
, of the better (ort of People ire 
((urn what Rppeari lo be the Seotimcnu 
: thn Houle. 
U',c bjr ib» Kule, Sir, which is the only pro- 
tgtr^. wf t^iit lind. that Ihi) Minillcr'i Con- 
,ib.c Step, ivitli regard both to 
, h*i b'-en dil'approrcd of by* 
■Lttrr foM of People in the Matron, 
»r tliix Hco'e; nn4 I am fare, no 
Wtia fenoW) Jtiy ditn^ of whiC pilTci %vitfaout Onorf, 
'prf ?rr i lo deny his ticirig cnmpiarncd uf. and even ex- 
it by A fite;t Mijonty of the Pimple. In for* 
-..., ^<t, ycK Piftiii tp y*K Dei, WHS held to be a 
smong all r.itc who CilJetl tlirmrelves tf^jt ; and 
'■■t>'!i th-^iii.'clMj, of whatever Dcnooiinaiton, 
10 (hew t great Reganl to it : but I'mce we 
i.i-ii ikio ihr CuRam of keeping up numetoui S;and- 
(nniei, thik Mixim bi% been aupifed by nur Minillen, 
by thoft: ' ' .1 . ., J tiitni/clvc) /f'Tsrji. «nd tha 

or wi. i:cir PriendtcaU, the Mob. 

J»eM rn tPtifiiiii', m It (I weir- pofiibic to iujppofc, 
llutt Ue Populace, or mcinc:! foit, can be genrnlly mfcon- 
mued. wAoi the 1> ;irc grnctnllv p'cjfcd with (ho 

OWiIb^ of ODr yv < t iie Populace in alt Coun- 

irka are tlkf Sc-vjirj , ^'J, mV-fi when agittud by (boio 
Flaftcf cn(huritlt'.t.>l \l.:^r.(;h, [|icalc the ^entimenti of the 
htnerk>n. The hltcr, 3i they havefotncthingio lofe be£3« 
tkctf Live*, tm*" rirtf, psrhapj, be (o readr lo bresk oor, or 
M fall tn:o ; Me^furCi aglirK un cllablillicd Go* 

*«ntinrftt. bii', . :n the Cafe I have tucmioncd, the 

CMS- '-.r tne Mob, never become otstr^giaus, unlefs 

tfcrj i:ed iij» by Ihe Difcotitcnt) and (ccret Grum- 

bUn^ at their )ttallcri. A wite ;and a gaci Minillcr will 
ktikay>. therrbre, aimit Popnlarity, e«-rn atujnglt chemean- 
ctt (an of PeepJe, bccaulc f'om theu he may moft certainly 
\ql. VII. N Irua 




(90) 

^^pi^Oto. I«ni 'his real Charafler imong thofe of ihc b«tcr fort. 
IL iT^o- 1 he fgrmer have nothing to hope for by flittering him, *nd - 

V/YX»^ much lefi to feai than ihcit Mallert, from uttering tho<< 
Comptunti openly and frrcly, which are in a fecrci, or ia- 
diicfl DHnner, iclUlled into them by thofe that ^ivc ihoo 
Biead. 

• The People, I ftiall grant, Sir, are in all Cowicrict foiid 
of Change) of Minillers or Magi 1) rate*. In free Countries 
they are food of ihcm, becaale inch Changes are necrff«y 
for the Security iQci Prefcrvatton of theRightiii>d Libc;ti<s 
of the People; and in abfolute Governmcnti, a? MJnillen 
and Magiflratci arc gcocratly opprcfTive, (he People have 
Reafoa tobefondof any Change. TbiiFondnefi u ihere< 
for< in all Coontriei founded upon foDd Reafani. and ac- 
cordingly ne find, ih.it People of all Rank* and Degreea, 
except Minitlen, And their Creaiurei, are eipully fond of 
fuch Chingei i but (o hy, that the People of any Drgrc*, 
in a Country that fubfiUi by Trade and induilry. dcltgbt in 
War. is, I think, 3 very great Millake. If tvc examtbc 
the Killories of our own Country, we (ball find ituii ibt 
Nation has been led into unncccffiry and dcflruflive Win 
by the Whimi of a Court, and that by the (4me fort of 
Whims, we have fometimcs remstned at Pe.ice, when wfl 
Gitght ro have declared War; but we ilull never find, that 
the People in general were for entering inio an unncccflary 
W.-ir, or for our coatiauiog in Pesce when it appeared nccrf* 
Ciry to declare War. In King James IlPs Time, it was c«r- 
tainly the InierrCiof this Nation, and would have rcdoondcd 
very much to our Honour, to have (upponed the Proteftwc 
Interett in Gemany. by cotcring hearltly into that Wut 
but we bad ^t tbac Tine fuch a pacific Coort, that neither 
the Honour nor Interclt of this Nation, nor the Safety of 
the Protetiant Religion, could prevail with out Court to de- 
clare War, or togiveihe PrMclUnu ;in>- etfeftuil AfitlUacr. 
What dul the People do npon that CXcafton I Did eot tii€f 
declare almofl nnanimouny f^r Wnr i Did not they exclaioi 
agsinft the then Miniilen, for allowing clie Palatine I-antly 
to be ruined, and the ProuHanc Religion cxtirptird both la 
the Palatioaio and in Bohcmu. In King C:-ir](i lid's 
Time, we were involved by our Court in two VVjrt agurtH 
ibe Dutch: I believe, no Man tvill mm <ay, they v,xn 
neccllary : I believe it wil! now be admitted, that Soth »rre 
conirjiy to the true Intercll of tbia Nation, an " -rt 

to til'" BaJacceof Ponerin Europe; Acconlin^ . .-«- 

pled <U;cdagaiLab:>th. And lattly, ;^r. I bcii ^c. w-ca'l 
rcmcoibcr, hM*i generally ihc People dctlarcd Kr a W» 
with Spiift, long before our MiaiUcr could be prtvaitcd utu 

ctUcr 



Iflfultl of Spain, or the ComnlaiiitB of our Annoi4,G«o 



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I 



OWT B_ _._ jp dttUre War ag«iiift tbit Kmidd. The 
}Lf rwo, ihjt the Teuple wen id llic rig)<t. What 

had ofcr. on?n foretold in ihu Hoafe, acUU appeared ro be 
troK, tbti witbout a War >l would be impotTtble to obuiio 
ckhcf iuuiiW^ian or SccMiic}' frum the Spani9iRls( and 
fitttif ii mail now be allowed, thai if we bad began thii 
War rijHl Yean ago. when the Emperor was attacked by 
tiK Sptoiardi in luly, it would have been greatly to our 
livaoar, ai well ai Advantage, and might have prevented 
the prerrn! melaDcboly Pollute of A&iri io Europe. 

ir, if we examine our own Hirtorics, we flj.ill 
frs" 11 Times, when our Minillcr^aod People have 

n with regard to War or Peace, the People 
'-cn in the right ; and for :hi} it is eafy to 
&«■« ■ kcatun. bccaiifc the People can be dirc£Lcd in their 
JwdgmCAi by notbitig but the general lacerelt, whereat Mi- 
DiA*(»arc too often dirrfled by particular Inieretl of their 
own, or by the pArciculir Interett, perhaps the particuUr 
Whia of their Sovereign, in complying with which, Mini- 
ftui Arc apt to be cxttetncly complailant, for the fake of 
co«in«ingtheinfel*ei in Power, efpecially when they think, 
ifcry cu) by Corruption, or any other Method, prevent their 
iKMig called to an Account in Pailtamcot. 

♦ From hence, Sir, we may fee, thit the Unpopularity of 
asr MiAiiler doe* net proceed from an unreafombie Fond- 
Mil ia our fctipie fat War. or from any cbildtfit Dcfire of 
being aOofltlhed with extraordinary Eventi, but from ihcir 
kavMg judged bntrr. and more difir.tcreOedty, of the Cir< 
cmiAancei of our foreign ASairs. and the true Intcref) of 
liictr Couciry : and if ne hai incurred the Difplcafure of 
all R<nki ot Penplf, upon this or any other Account, iiis 
'ly branded: It cannot he Further branded 
(hi* Houfe torcmo»e him; On the con- 
it i&ay by lliat aieani be vinJiciIrdi beC'Uleartcr his 
Rerrr:-rit, ird rrt rilj then, a linO and impartial KnquirjT 
m". '■ .* Condtifl. and by that Kntjuiry bis 

' >ird of thofc Sufpi\:i9ni that now lie fo 
This, I fay, may be the Confcqueoce of 
'.nttfed, and then he may agsin be employed 
btii wbiin he labours under a general Suf- 
....-u or Wiclccdneff, will any one fay, he ii 
is tot bciegta hi^ MajeUy's Couscilt, and far lefs for being 
h» Majdly'i foic Advifer I Let tbe People be never io 
twd Jodgct of a M«n*s Virtue or Wildom : Let the Cli- 
matin agiinJl tlia Miniller't Condud be never (o groundlefi, 
hti .'I'jcdy »pcfl any Confidence Irom bis rarliainent. 



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(90 

/ nno r4,<j«o while bis <^anciTi ire i}ite£lctl hy a Miniller sgaiott wiwfB 
11. 1740- thcic is a gcnenl Sulpjcion And CUmour. 

^^yy^^ < Suieljff S'f. if ihcrc be toy Conncxioo bntvcen th«. 
ScDiimecis of the Majority of thu AfGemhly, smI tl>c SeciU* 
intcu of (he People : It weirc to jurfgc of ibr Scniiiacn 
of the People, by what ippean to be tbo ^cmimeriti of 
M»joT>ty ol ihts Afiembly. wc may, on the other hand, todga 
of what will be the Scntimcnti of (he M'^)oriiy of orji 
Parliuncot, frntn whii iie the prrfeni ScniimfRn of t 
People i >«<) if the Majririty of luxc Parliament OioiiliJ coa- 
Jilt of fuch aa have the bme Opioionol' thu Mimltct a» th« 
People ^ncnlly have, can his MajcHy expcA any Confi- 
dence from fuch J P.ulizment ? On it be cxpe^ed that thcj 
will trull the Govrrtiaicni of their Countrv u a Man, 
who, they think, will ruin it by his VVcalenc/ft or betray it 
by his Wickednrlif SiTi the cbuOng of s new HBrIui«)«at, 
whitft lucha Miniller is, or Jsfuppoled to be the fcU Dirtc 
tor of our CiAiacilit inuil necefl^rily be of the mull dtftge- 
TCUi Confcquence, cither 10 our happy Conliitution. or to 
our |>rereni happy ElUbjilHmtrc. if the People arc 1«A to 
their fiee Choice, la the prcfent Humour ihey are in, tbcy 
will cetuinly chufc fuch for their Rcprcfi-.otativci at haw 
been the moll profclTeii tad Hcai-'y Enemies to him t and 
among th«m a Majority may get jd of fuch at ate fecictljr 
difiilmled to the Illuilrioui Fimtly now upon oor Throne, 
which would certainly be of the mofi dangeiotii Confc- 
qoence to oor preient happy ERabl'Qicneot. On the o<hfff. 
band, if the People Ihoultl not be kit to their free Choi 
if (hey Ihould be diie^ej in their Choice b^ Cofruptlon. * 
other illegal Praflicn. and thereby a Xfajoruy (faoold 
chofea confining of fuch as act che Crcaturct and I'ooli 
ihc MiniScr, what ir.ighi we 001 apprehend froro fuch 
Majority tJuring the long Ccurfr of a Sfptnniai Parliitmcnt 
Could we exped, ih'l fucli a Majority w-julil hive any Re. 
gatd to the Libcftiei and Privileges of the People > M 
we not cxpcft, that they would put an Fnd to our ba 
Conrtifu'inn, when wc conf;Jer, that the foinfe Safety 
of rheinrelvc5 and their Patron would depend uport tU 
Oi-erthrow i 

* It 11 fo apparent to niP, Str, thit one or other ef 
Dsngeri rnult be the Coi^ffquence of having a new Pult 
nent cho'cn. whilil foch an unfxiaDlar Mimiler i> ar I 
l-Ielm of A&irt, that 1 ratinot believe any Man, who 
fidcri cbc Qurliion irt thii Light. WiU beagainll it. vntcb 
be ft fecrei Encny, uihrr 40 cur Confli:ut>oo, or 10 oiu 

Srefenc ElUbliOiffleat. ii there be any ntnoogft ut, a« ] 
ope the/e art no:, wiu> «js afraid of having ou Conftit*- 

uatk 



ifc- 

i 



) in priliM Vigour, hy At Choice of utn. Anno ■«, Geo 
free pAfliamcni, tKejr liave Rto.oo ro be *^ '^-i^ 

oflon ( tad I »m I'nrc. if I wert n jauofaiw in V-/''V~S^ 

tf iis^- • nothing I Oiaulij w^h more eagerly lam 

tCem»^ .- }>ut upOQ the QueAion, bcuDle I Qxtuli 

tittux c^tpcci, thjt my Fiicnds would lUrd i fiiir 
in evrr^f Part of the Kingi'om, of getting iheni' 
tJroi ciwfeo Members of this Houfe at the oexc enfuing 

• 1 hQ]>« I hire now fhewn, Sir, that the Miniilrr. pro^ 
fM b/ tbii Motion to be removed. aiuO be lUowed to b« 
IfBf turpopohr Miotltcr ; that hii Chjrafter can b* no 
Wf Uaciwntd by thii Addrefi &rther than it is altrad/, 
ba, tm (he roairafy, may lie cicarrd oF the Cloud of StiA 
}CKM wbich now hangn lownifig over itj aod that his 
CnuMUAce io PoMct uttiU be of the moH dangerous Cgii> 
i^waca, cillKr to our LuQllitulion, or to our prcfcat P.d»> 
UAjaoB. I luve DO Occaiion to prove, amj, indeed, it is 
myiSriU to prove, tkit be il the chief Adviser and toUt 
DmOv af ali our \>jb\it Aff<ifs : Iti> ruficientfor my Ar> 
Mwat. if be be grocra'Iy fu|^pDirU to be To : and that this 
9hppaCiCiaa ngeoenlly withour Doot). is apparent JrOm tho 
C ^uwW i AmlKUtion made to him to all Branches of public 
tifaat • No Mao, we lee. expefli to get any Bti&nt^ls lioae 
vskfOrobesia any Fsrour from the Ciown, wiihouc nukiog 
lam Son sf AcpKcutun to hisi ; for if he puti a Ncgaiive 
^tto it, Uut S^-g^ilive has ofien been found to prevail 
t|B«A the llroageJl Iniereft that could any other Way bo 
»i! ' rafour. Thtsii the Cafr, ihts ha: long bcea 

(k( - ::i regard to til AfTirs of a domefiit: Natote i 

fi ftmk («sard to thofc that arc foreign, do not wc know, 
fimiaam very near Friend of hii hat been employed in all 
•v NcgBOktioni ihiit were of any great Impoitircc to the 
N'mui? Our other Miniilcrt may, pctbapi, ba*c tud from 
\m tW Ltberry mnoRiinacea Heiidcni, or an F.nvoy to 
imt of t^ Northrrn Crown*, or to fome of the Iiiil« 
fiiatt* of Germany or Italy : bat when any important 
Mifdiiaaiuii wai let on Foot with Hnlland, France or Spain. 
"ny one koowi who they are th.^i have been always cm- 
|*9cd, aad by whofc [■'"""■"''■'^dBtioo ihey were appoint- 
H. and oar many fr^i< 'ttatioas. and u fru<tle& 

T mti c*. tmrt fufficicno/ iciiiivnl their great Abilities. 

* Tbcfe CirtuKaaoces, S<r, Kavc moll jultty created a< 
JHmbI SoppofctioAa that this Miniller hat been for maaji 
^^P, «ad is Ai]l, the Cole Ditc6ar af all our public Affairii 
■MkiiSappofition itwtil be impoflible fur our other Miai- 
klUOJViDore by fimDly aSening, that it ii not fo. I bsve» 

Sir, 



f 94 ) 

Anno 1 4, Geo. Sir, a very gwit Opinion of their Vertcity; bnt thii doei 
II. 17 40. QQ( depend upon tbeir Veracity, but tbcir Judgment i becaofe 

^'-^"^ "^^ an artfiil Minifler may make them believe, they aft freely 
and without Dlreftioo, when all but themfelves (ee they can 
do nothing without hii Confent or Connivance. However, 
I muA tell them, that they have not io thii Cafe aneqoal 
Title with other! to be believed, becaufe their own Honour 
is very much concerned in the Queltion ; for as a Prime 
Minillcr is inconliftent with our Conltitution, when any om 
Minifier, by his Favour with the Prince upon the Throne, 
ufurpi the fole Direftion of all our public Affiirs, no Maa 
of Honour will then continue in the AdmiDillrition, becaafe 
he does not then ferve his Prince, but hit Prince's Prime 
Miniller. This is what no Man of any Prc'eoce to Hoooor 
will confefs, and therefore, when he aflert^ the contrary, he 
has not an equal Title to be believed with thofe, who are 
neither in Honour norlntereA concerned in the Queltion. ' 
* I therefore wifli. Sir, that fonie Honourable Geotienua 
would fave themfelves the Trouble of denying, that our 
jmbli; AfEiirs are now under the fo)e Influence of Ulis Mini* 
lt-:r, becaufe confidcring (ome laie Circum fiances, and their 
known [nurell in the C^eftion, they cannot expcft to be 
bslieved. and becaufs the very Suppofiiiott of its being (b* 11 
fufficicnt for the Argumsnt 1 have advanced. The trj 
Suppofition that this Miniller is a fole and Prime Mioifler, 
mutt expofe our prefent Ell<ib!i(hnient to Danger at the oeit 
general Eleftions; but this is far from being the only Oaa- 
ger we are expofed to by this Minitler*s Continuance ta 
Power. We know the prefent ticklifli State of the A&vi 
of Europe : We know what a Danger the Balance of PoiMr 
ii now }a ; and we know what a Difcredit hit paft Owdoft 
has brought upon our Councils at every Court ta Eun^. 
If he if I'uppoed to continue in the chief DiredioDor ov 
public Affairs, can we expcft a Confidence from any oftliofe 
Courts i Can wc expcft, tliat nny of the Potentates of Eoiope 
will en:er into an Alliance with us, for reiloring or prefciT- 
ing the Balance of Power ? p'rom Experience we kiov 
h«w little capable he is of condufting any NegocJanaai 
tiiercfore, il he continues but one Year longer at the Htti 
cf our Councils, we have Realcn to apprehend fope Uft 
Sup oi B unJer, which may put it out of the Power flf 
any lutj.t; Adm D.llr»tion to recover our A£tirs, or w fim 
cry Scheme for fccuring the Liticrties of Europe ; aitd ifaO 
ihc Powers thereof (hould t>e obliged to fubinit to the Di- 
reftion cf our moll d.ingerous Rival, what can this NuitB 
»i lalt expcft i 

Thk 



( 95 ) 
This Danger, Sir, u (a appircot,aiii3 U row become fo AnnoiA,C^. 
linear, that our complying wjtb this Macon J!, to my JI 1740 
inion. 1 Doty we owe both 10 our King and Counrry. i^'^\/'^\J 
pyoie I thought this Minillcr gatlty of no (.rime; Tup- 
^ olc I had approTcd of every Step of bis paA Cotidufi. yet 
LMlie Wnknels of his Mcafurcs appears now fo plain from 
^hcir EfTecls, both abroad and at home, that 1 fltotild be 
f9br addrrlQngco reoiove a Miniikr, who had led me, ai well 
■ ma his Couniry, into foch fiia) Errors. Political Mcafarea, 
I^Srr, ire of luch an abntole Nature, and fo often a^ mil of a 
^ falle Gtofs. that a MiHatce can no Way derogate from the 
'JoderdaivliRg of thok who are obliged co judge of them, * 

Kthoat having all the Lights neceJTaty for forming a righe 
idgment. 1 know there are many Gentlemen In this 
lourc, whoiiave approved of mott of this Miniller'i Mea- 
ei : According (o the Lights (bey viewed ihem in at the 
fime, they appeal 'd wife aed right; but will any Gentle- 
|an now fay, they were fo} Will any Genileman now (ay, 
!ic Treaty of Hinover was a right Mcifure ? Will my one 
>w approve of (he Meafures taken, anil the Expcnce tve 
jt otirfelvrs to, in Purfumce of that Treaty ? V\ til anyone 
fay, we oaghtto have gone precipitately inio a general 
fOinnif of the Piagmitic S:inAian. without ILiputjt'tig tl-.c 
lO Sitiififtjon for any Prince in Germany, with regard 
I the Claims kc had upon the Hoafc ol Auilria. 

Surely. Sir. before we entered into that Guaranty, we 
3uld Itave taken care, that more iluin one Haif cf Ger- 
iny fbould not be engaged in Inierckt tn oppose that which 
re had guamntf'd. The Claioimow fet ap by Pruffii were 
certainly known to our Mtnitlcri. beiore we giuraaty'd the 
Pragmatic SaoAion : For him at jeall we ought to have fti- 
piilattd fuch aSathftfiion, ai would in Intcn-ll.aswcll ai by 
Treaty, hare cng.igvd him in the fame IntereA with ui. Jf 
we had done [hit, rcKlier tl.e Pragmatic SmAiOn, nor (he 
Libertici ot Europe wou d now have been in any Danger; 
ffnd ilierefi)rr, I cannot (hint:, any Man will now pretend • 
L^^ jiiUIfy our bavmg fo precipitately cnrcred in;o a general 
^^^uaranty t,t (^e Pngmaiic S^nftion: Nay. X believe, evert 
^Tbr Minifler himfell wtuld not l-ave done (o. if he had not 
been forced toil in orJcr 10 extricate himfclf out of the Di- 
lemma lie had brought brmfeif into by the Treaty of 5e> 
ville; for however jfalou* iomeof the nc;ghbt-unn};i'rtncea 
of (iennany ffl.-iy be. ofno Increai« of l*u<,ver Jn tlie Houfe 
ofBrarKicnburg, furtly no Kngiilli Mini.lercuuM be atlnarrd 
by 9Dy fuch Jealou'y : ar>d inc'cfire, I bclkre. enn osr 
MimCer bimfrlf wvuKl have Jlipulited ^litfjQii n fur the 
King of r.'uSu. With legird (o bii Clairat in Sitcfn, bct^e 

crteritig 




11 1-43 



( 96 ) 

Am>oi«, Geo mcertng mta thai <iiannit)r, if be had ootbctfl fbrcoStO 
by (b« Dilrmnu I h»vc racmioncd. 

• By ihcfc Mcafur*", Sir. and by our rcglrfling 10 piifbni 
our Guaranry ifl iljcEtnpcror in ihe Year 173;. the 
ef Fuwtr, and tbc Ltbeniei oC Europe bare bcea 
into ibeir prc'cnt Danger. I'bis Danger is not 
Ihe EmpcroT'i Death, at the Friend* of our Miniflrr ctdo- 
rtmr to infinute; fot it ve bad taken right M<i(um, if 
we bad not tzkro wioog Mcafurer, oay, if we bid not piK- 
fued a long Scries ot wrong McaTurcs, ibc Einpeior'& Death 
could have made lutk or no Alteration in iIk AftAin of 
Europe i fo that the Empcror'a Death had Dotbing in it baJ 
to the Libcriiei of Europe, but iu hap[>f ning bclore tba 
Nation had an Opportunity to get rid oi thit MlniAcr, tnd 
10 TcAify the Erruri it had been led into by bttn. Thii. in- 
deed, Mjs very unfortunate, and if be continuM but ibr 
one Year longer to have the lame Influence opon our 
Coancilt, 1 may prDphefy, that wiihtwt lomc very figml 
Inccfvcntionof Providence, it will l>c falkl to the Liberuei 
of Europe in gencrai, and confequenily to the Libcniet of 
this Naiion in particular. At the refpc^ltve Timrt iktU 
Mcalurei were taken, ibcy were (ct in fueh a Light hy our 
htinilict and his 'Advocates, that I 60 not wcadcr at their 
baving been approved ol hy everyone, who bad any Coei- 
dcncc etcher m hit Wtfdom or Inirgriiy ; bot their We*k> 
Bcfi, I Qisll not Ciy Wickednert, spfcan ticwfo pbin. troa 
the Kffe&i they have produced, timt no M.an, not even the 
Vlitilller himfelf. cnn approve of them i and tbador* 
tvery Man mutt think. tTc ought at Icail to be mnoveil hr 
hit Weaknert. Hii pursuing futh Meorutet. hit ondenak* 
ifig, >■ be did by the 'IVeaiy cf Hanover, to pull dowaths 
overgrown Power of the Houle of Auilria, vay peHafa 
have proceeded from Wickednefi. It may hire procaednJ 
from hii having a greater Regard for a fomgo JntcTtt, 
beaiti(c it coincided wtih hii own. than he bid tor the ffi- 
teiclt of bi« Dative Country ; bur ibit C4nnoc be matif If- 
pear. «■ long si he It Madcr of all the Frooft, aad baa tU 
(he Fxvourt of ibc Crown at hit DifpoTal ; aod thcrrfgft. 
the tiA Step we tDud taketowjirdi dikorcring bii Wkhti* 
octs, mullbe to remove him for hii Weakndi. which. «tt 
regard to the gcnenU IniertHI of Europe, moft now, aa I 
have fiid, plainly appear, even to thofe who b««« hitfcCRO 
had the hcU Opinion of hit Conduct, 

' And now. Sir, with regartl to the particular Itrterf4 ti 
tbli Nation, will any one now (ay. that it wai wile or eighl 
10 allow Spain toamuJcut, for (o many Yean together, wtlh. 
uifling NrgotkiioBif efpecially u they vitn, dunag 

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(97) , 

fi iat^rrnptiaf; oar Tnde ami Nivjgnrion, anj Anno.u-Cto." 
mnj^ OIK Mrrcti&ntif Will any one no* fay, it iijlj^- 
or tight to conclodr wi(h Spain a ftiim Treacy, ' 
s L'onvcrtion, Without c4>rAinJn2 ar.f Sstis^dlOO tor 
[l^f »«s. or Any rrf>mil'e of Srcuiiiy againll faiart, my* 
ubmiiipg (^ much «^ a Piomilc form IntennilliOii 
if lafBitt f V^hrnan)' I'oint h^ppmi to be in Dirpuie, by 
^^\ the Nauor. ii not rxpofed lo any immedute Lofi cr 
ft»Mir Mnnllrn m^v nc^otiit^ about itand about it : 
y r-r*- f nclude tnftf nifiaint Trcitiei rtUiing to it, 
t' rci immniiaEe Rupture, E;^ inciting upon 

i^i'tuffioni but w)irn we [ufier daily and 
^7 tl»e Point in Dnpotf . nnd hiiTB it in our Power 
nund an imrrcdixc Dikyi&on, (urely our Minillcrtl 
tMX then lo nlk'w (lll^mlrlvcll to be xmuted with tfdi- 
NV£(n| .iinn» (ir urntr^ning Ttralies ; and isucb left 
alirt lUcy hive jmie iticir C^ountry tm great F.ir^ience in pre- 
pij'tii fu7 d i'.ui'Uft, u-hich was our Cife at tb« Time wfl 
Coa=liKJcd i>-ic n.ligc.ricant Treaty, al'itd the Conrrntion, 
• I »fr. ■'■pfiffd, Str. ro 1 rir an Attempt tww 

t"! ! rif" toJcus Tfcacy. orio liear sny one 

T :i had an Inclination to gnnt ut tny 

Suppofc ftiey bud by ilic Ttexiy 
livuiea. »' ibty did not, (Imi lOO.ooo). wsi due 
iftAw ui D-imagci far the Injurtn wc had fulTrmJ, 
ttwaM. out of tliia joo.oool. drduft, open 
:ci. no icri tban 173.000I fo »i 10 l»vc no 
Z7,oool to be K^tuiUy p«id to ui i muft rot 
ire iriit fhi* woold havc becn no more than a 
'rOn, m«(!c b^ the Minitlrrs ttf Spain to 
,. ^.i .itrai K'lUin, in otder to Airnifh the lattrr 
hiog vilicrcuiib to amtile iheir own Peopled 
"—-■•■ appear* from the Taprn open our 'I rble, that 
iDblled upon lier Aighc 10 fr^rch our Ships m 
%un: .^_j i-ir, bai that wc had no R'ght IdIiJI in thofc 
it»i gulf v-r • 1 :i-rred whst tbry might be plrWed 10 caU a 
*■ '■ , n IB '.ery furptifirtg 10 he^f i; Aill afferied, thir 

i ever the Icall Thought of gianting to I'l t frre 
,jji-]B, or the Irall Inclie^iion la live in Peace with 
tt» uw continued to a)to«v their Guar<1a Cofta's to 
"1, and to plunder nr feiie our hieu 
. -rwncTi were nci k( up bf verbal 
Ut wwr MioiBsr nr Negotiator in Spain, 
inotfi): 'fciiiTrf'i or tranfmiiied id our 
' 'rmoriali nufi ^Ave been 
-Jikgs :A»KAf't Cabinet Courri', 

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C 98 ) 

Annoi4iGeo tt iieqoaily rurpriuag to hear it pretended, that our c&ief 
II 'Tio. Mjniller wkt. or could pollibly be, ignorant vf ihcm, 

• I Ihall conclude, &i,r. with a fhort Reply to what hil 
been laid in Anfwcr to the Charge againA this Mmtfler, cf 
ills having cndcavontcd to obuin m cormpc loflucr.ce over 
both Houtei of Parliament. This the Honourable GenttC' 
nan admits to be a heavy Charge i but, fayi be. it ii a Kad 
tvhich. if true, may ccnainly be proved » and (or thii Ptir< 
pofc he provokes any Member tn rife tip, and iaf, that the 
Minillcr cvcrdefired him. or tetnpted hinit either by I'hma 
or Piomifeit to vote igainll his Confcience in Parliarntct 
Can It Itc (uppt^eO, Sir, that any Mitiiller would be i>i;m i 
fool as to calk (o to a Member of this Houlc t Is ihete ibe 
lead Occafion Tor him to cjtpofe bimfctf En this ounnerr 
Two or three Kxampiei : TviO or three Gentlemen beirg 
turiKd oat of ibcir Perils, afier having oppofed the Mini- 
Her'i Meafure* in Parliament, will be m luffieient Warning 
oc Threatning to all the lell of the Memberj of either 
Hoofe of Parliament, that hold any Office ur brnpluymcst 
at tbc Pleafure nf the Crown, and alfo to all (hole that bgpe 
for. cr expeft any Farour from the Crown. By the* P.xam* 
pies every one will fee, that none ol the Kavourt nf tit 
Crown are to be held or expelled, but by refigning thr:r 
Contcicncei in Parliament to the Dilates of the i'rtoie 
Miiiiltcr i and thii will beni efledual upon all thofe of rt> 
nal M*i>dt or nrcefiiious CircomltaDCes, ai if ihe Klialflcf 
hid okett ihcm one by oneafide, and threatened ihem ft' 
prefily with the Lofi of their Employment*, or with a Dif- 
appointment to their Hopes, b cafe they fhould ojipoieaBjr 
ol bn Meatures in Parliament. 

• Thii i» tbeicfwe the only Pioof we<an have of a Mi- 
niUer's endeavouring to gain a cortupt InAueacfl over bodi 
Houfetof Parliament ) andean it be faid. Sir, that wc bate 
ao proof of this kind againil the Miniitcr now ptopr'- '. 
be removed P Do not we all know, that many tn 
Members of both Hon(e* of Parlmmenr hare been 
removed from every Ofice they bttd at thePieuurc . , , 
Crown, loon after their having oppofed fomeof thll. 
iler'i Pfojeitj in Parliament, and (hat no Cinfr 
RerooMl ever wai. or coold be affigned, ' ■ 
TOitd jcc jrding to the DiAaies of their Ct^: 
pofition lo the DitUtcs of thr Minitler* iJi> r 
Know, tbat it hi» been tberonllant Maxim of 1 
llrAtiun. to confer actie of fbe Favouncf the Crown, bof 
ufcn lull 31 vjtcd iicR>n!m« to hit DircAiom at Et<£U< 
' It' Niy. 4iir, he has gone ftfther thaa 

; biitt cvct tiki . lie hat declared ihit 

hu 



( 9'9 ) 



NbxImop»)y; He hii ivowetl it I'fl tha F«ce of thit Annol4,Cco• 
" ■"■ -nb y i and (hill *e rfrfire or fceic for a Proof of H- 174* 
1 i'lci, whtcl) the Criniinil himfelf luu kvowcd 
bouicd of in chii vrry Affcmb'yf 
• T(w Kjicufe insrie fr*r iht» open Attack upon oar Cou- 
. a Brw ' Mi rS the Mjnilltt'j Goilt. It 

cf, u tfii- i.telf, to take rou'ccof ilicOp- 

•■-■■-■■>_ > . cniin in Pariiimenl ? H*i the 

lie- , i -.;,<; ;,ir^ r,i,,irU', a Right (o juJge or dtter- 
wbetbrr or no iurh iin Oppolinon be imhiCKctly and 
tally carried 00, or whr.hcr it proccedj (/otn Refent- 
rsi or l.o.-D ConrcieiKCf Sir* thcrt would be an End of 
ie prec<dcKn ol bpeech in Parlitment, at lealt with regard to 
\l (icBilcmrn. who held or exprfled any Office or Place 
jri-c .,.,.« fhe riafure of the Crown, if the Kicg 
lou fucb a Ki£bl; and cbcrcfi>rc, an/ 
'i him TO do <o, mutt be guihy oF a very 
If any Gentleioan OiouM fpeak, or 
. indecently or lodifcrcetty here, the Houfe 
- take notice of it; and whilU a Grnilcman 
\*t^ fijncii' decrntly and difcreetly, wharercr Oppoft- 
»ft tie ntkct lu l&y QueJlion in this Adcmbly, inufl, and 
to be fuppofcd to proceed ftum Mutivci of Honaur 
ifdcnee. and not from Muiivei of M)itice or Re- 
If the Crown, ot ratbct the MituHeri of the 
•tre iliowed a Riglii to judge in fuch Cafes, every 
[fpoke Bgilnlt them would be deeme-d to be indecent. 
Oppofitioo to their Mcafurei would be (oppored 
from their Malice or Hetcnintcnt ; iod thus cliey 
^aic, they had a juI) and legal Reafon for turning 
' Man oai nf che Service of the Crown, that (hould 
ir.y [f their Mealures Jo Parliament. 

-ng may, it is true, cxercilc fonicof the Prc- 
r.c Crown Without aflting the Advice of any 
Emu if he doet uiake a wrong L'I'e of any cf bts 
.J...,.-- *■■•■ ^tiriileri mufl anfwer for it, if incy cotu 
i« to * - ■■lerj. This, Sir, ii one of the Advan- 

k«ri oui <~^i.«Mi;iion, and it iia very high Advxotage: 
(t raakr* it dsngeroui for Mioifleri to endeavour to 
fuprrior Degree of Favour with the King, by bu- 
ine the Pal&ont and Fradiiei of huiDan Nature, by 
iiieh Kiagt, ai well at other Men, are too apt to be go- 
£lt ttata Advintagc wr lofe, Sir. when we happen 
bavc ao unpopular Minilfer, or 00c who fears the Re- 
itmatti of the People, aa4 bit no way to goard ag^iinlf it, 
. by gaioioj a coirapc Majgriiy in Farliament i for iiich 
Ox 





( TOO) 

Annot^.Geoi Mm moD for hi* own Rjfttji en<JMroQr to Bumiior faU 
v-ti-^ S?veicigfi in «11 hii Paflions and Fr«il:iei. for ibc fike of 

*-^^r^S^ prcfcrving hi} Favour, upon which alone bit ptilanal S»fc. 
()r, li well a> hit Power, itfcadu sd(1 if Tucb a Ml 
ibo'jid, bf fuch Muot, ro!el)r cngrufs ihc Favour of 
Martrr, and thereby gain a corruyit M'jotity io 
Houfn of Parliament, I ihuuld he glml lu know what C 
tro.ll h« ii under, or liv wlmt legal Mont our Contlitutli 
could be jclfored. This unlucky Situation we taty ftll into 
by having the fiipe Minifler too long contini:ed m Power. 
This Danger wc h»vc. I ihiok. fomc Reafon loapprebesd 
from our Vlini/lrr's being tongtr coDtintKd in Pouci; mi 
therefore I Oia>t be for agreeing to ibc Mouoa new -atuiu 
mrCotfideration. 

Mr. Harley. 

Sir, 

t. Hiriei. * I do Dot fl.nd up at thi» Time of Night, eiilirr ro ttr 
fufeoTto 6-itui aijy Min. Since I have tud the Honour !a 
lit in Piriiameot, I have oppofe 1 the Mrafutn oT the Adni- 
mention. b<raafe 1 thought them wronj> ; aiu) ai long n 
they sie, I Ihsll continue to ^ive *% (oiilbnt an OpfiofiuM 
to them. The Stiw of the Nation, by the Coodua of our 
Mmiilcii, is deplorable: A ''Var it drUrcying tu Abroad, 
Mid Poverty atvd Corruf lion are devnurirg oi w Home. 
iwbaccvir r may think of Men, God fjtbid, ihst ay fnr, 
OpIoioD (hcutd be ibe ooly Uu'c cf my judgment ! I & 
dciirc to have aa exterior CoDTiflion fioin FaAi and 
deocc; and nlihout thii I am fofar fiom condennirg, t 
I nou'd not cenfure any Man. I am fu!ly ftntJini m a, 
own Mind, that there are itiofe whn give pirriicioui and 
Urudivc Counfeli ; ard, I hope, a Time wiU corar, wbn, 
propcri legal, p;;rlamcnL:ty lu><]uiry may be 
when clear fadt an^E fu'.l hvde.ice wi|) plttnly dUcc 
^rc ibe Enemies of tbcii CuuuLry. 

• A nob^e Lord, to whcin 1 bad the Honour to b« 
litrd, hiS been vfien memioned in this Drk'ie : He 
impeached and iaipriroued i by that Impritbnment bii Yi 
wctc Ihorurrd; and ttic Prolccution wa» cariied ott by 
Hon* urabic Petfon, wtiQ 1* now the Siibjcft tif your 
tiORtlho' he kncwat uat eery Time, thai there vm aa £ 
^coce to fspport it. I api now, Sj. gUd cf tbtL 
tonity to return Good for Fril, And to do that Hon. 
Centlctrao and hit Fiftiily ihai luQicr, wbicb be di 
!Hitv» . 




( loi } 



^eiY Uie, yet I did not, it firft, think of Mr, fultmcy. 
I inc Debftic, brcinfe I had a Mind to 



Mr. Pa!tettry. 

• TW it I' ^-^^ ^ 

;(o eaHv in 

bard f-- ' i^c Honoimb'c Gcnctcntan bad co dy 

own '• i Utt finctf (he Ifoiifc lecini lobe of 

tliat i:e ukij^ht lu be ihc lall Speaker in ibis De. 

my fcif cbl:ged roslccrmy Intcntion,UKlio Kt%'e 

Senuin«eti upon the QucUion, tKfoie I tieir what 

t-iiu t.i ''-<* Aithit, I ixy, Iccmi to be the Opinion of 

iH' '1 "01 prtlntne » fiiy U is pinia] ; but { 

ot< c it is coniriry to the cfUblilhtd P»ftice 

Itl other Oki in this UoJt, find in all other Courts of 

)i,>T« evei heird of; for both in thi> HouTe, upon 

Occ:lont,And in all other Courts, the Petidoaer 

atux- >i :ilM'aysal1owM to reply i and if this Method 

obicrved upon ihii Occafioni I Ibould buTC re- 

lyklt'fur the Reply, in which Cafe I fhoold hive 

okcn pcitnulu Circ not to htve ti>enttoi>cd any sew 

je. hot wcwld hive C0D6npd tnyfr'f cnrire)y to thole 

dot hid been before menitonrd in the Octuie. This 

ire been my Method, hni I been ilFowcd to fpeik 

~ Reply ; but now, I think, I may ake the Liber- 

f\t, to uke Notice ot lome Faflg that have not 

I'MMuioaid in the Debate t and I hope the Floufe 

re me '>nv9 to cipUin a tittle farther Tome of ihofe 

(•salTcir Wkked Mealurei thic have been already mco- 

Ti> beji". Sir. wHh our fotcfgn Affiirs : I muft go ■ 
fe finbcr b*ck (hin the Treaty of Hanover, in order to 
the We»kmrfi ot that Treaty i and tf I can fhcw, that 
finiJler. wbotc ConduA i> now ibc Sobjcd of Debate. 
bimfrlf h^ve been conlcioui of the Wrakneh of tbsi 
d wai then wi^ikcd m him to approre cf it, or 
tlut pcniiaaiis Plan of Politics, upon which it 
. Sir. the Plin. and the right Plan of Pol!. 
bad been porfu'd during ibe whole Reign of 
riilissi. and the whole Rn'gn of QuKn Anne, till 
the latter End cf it, when « new Mmifiry began to 
'Ucaiurct.wa.' toditniRilhihc Power of the Houfe of 
and add to the Power of the Houfe of Aullria, in 
ffteto prcTcrrt a Balance c-f Power in Europe. In ex ecu- 
DM af cnia PUa we Joined, not ai Auxiliariei, but ai Pria- 
itttwo dtagcroGi Wars againd France- Wcexprnd- 
[aaaf MilUoM ; we lun outfelvcs many Millions in Debtt 
: fvx of which icraaiiu ii yet « L«ad upon ihu Nuioo t 

•ai 



AnP0t4,Gfca. 
U.1740. 




( I02 ) 

^jufto I4, Geo and the Earl of Oxford, our Minifter at the End of liie 
II 1740- Qucen'i Reign, was impcsch'd (he Beginning of Ull Reign, 

^^'V'^J for not purfmng this Plan. T|ie chief Article againll that 
Minillerwas, his having, by the Peace of Utrecht, left the 
Power of the Houfc of AuHria too fmall in Italy and Flaa< 
ders, and the Kingdom of Spain un^icr a Sort of Dependance 
upon the Court of France. This I fay, was the chief Arti> 
cle of Impeachment againll that noble £arl, and this our 
prefent MtBifler cojld not b« ignorant of, becaufe hewai 
Chairman of that very Committee, which drew up thoft 
Articles of Impeachment, and waj then one of the warmei 
Frofecutors of that noble Earl. 

■ To remedy one of the Faults found with the Treaty of 
Utrecht, we entered into a Negotiation, foon after the Ac- 
ceflion of his Ir^tc M::jetly, fur giving Sicily to the Emperor, 
in Exchange for S-'iiciinia, uhich Exchange was cllabliQwl 
by the Treaty of London in the Y'.ar 1716, and u tbtt 
Treaty wasfigned by this vcty Gentleman, he could not be 
ignorant of the Phn of Politics ufon which it was founded. 
In fupport of this Plan, ive arc obliged to engage in a War 
againlt Spain, which occafioncd cur dellrpying their Fleet 
in the Mediterranean in the Year 1718: and this very Flu 
was the chief Faundation of the Quadruple Allianre. which 
t^piin afterwardii acceded to, tho* the Conditions of thai Ac- 
celTion are not, as yet, 1 believe, fully Icncv-n. Thus we got 
one of the Faulti> Icjcd with theTreuiy of Utrecht ameodedf 
and as to the other, it w:.s by the Hind of Cod \try [dob 
removed; lor by the Death of the late King of France.aod 
the Regent's fetting afide his Will, which, luckily for thii 
Nation, happened (uon ?fter his lace M jelly's AcceSion, tiiC 
Depi-ndencc of the Court uf Spuin upon that of France WM 
remov'd, and an Enmity cil.ib'iihed bctwceo the two Courli, 
which foon af er broke out in sn open War. 

• By thefe Mrtn." t!:e two chief Paul's that had beta 
found with the Trc.ty of l.'trccht, wrre both reAifled ; and 
rhus the AfTiirsof Europe Unod, when this Minilter hrgu 
r.rlt to have an Influence over cur Councils. Whilll a Jea- 
ioufy, or rather Enmity, fubfined between the Courts of 
France and Spain, it wa; reifonablc enough for us to keep I 
Correfpondcnce with the Court cf Fnnce, efpccially ajal 
;hjt Time we had a Difpute with the Court of Spain ; bum 
that Enmity ccafcd by the Regent's Dedth, and as a good 
Corrcfpondence v.ts reilorcd between thcfc two Court), by 
the young King 'jt France's being married to the Infanta oi 
J'ja<n, we o'jgiit then again to have begun to be upon our 
^t'^ird againlt the Ambition of the Houfc of Bourbon, and 
•or tht? Piirrcfe wc ought to have contioiKd lo cdltivaic a 

good 



( 103 ) 

snefpondrnce with the Houfc of Auflria, and we ought Anno t4, GcA, 

cndnTOured, by all the artful Means we could think ''■ '740' 

bterrupt that Correfpondence, which had been re- ^-^"V%^ 

ied between the Courts of France and Spain, and to 

Bodaie all the Differences fnbftlling between the 

of Spain and Vienna. According to the Plan of Po- 

lAriiiet] ever fince the Revolution, thefe fhould hive 

le Ends propoted in all our Negotiations; and for 

iliihing thefc Ends, a moft happy and unlook'd-for 

nt occurred by the Court of Francc^s fending back 

inta of Spain, and getting their King married to his 

Qiieen. 

lii. Sir, was one of the moft lucky Accidents that 
Avc happened for this Nation, and for Europe, if we 
nown how to have made the right Ufe of it. The 
>f Spain immediately broke olT all Correfpondence 
uu of France, and offiircd to reier all their DifEitrences 
^ Court of \'ienna to our fole Meditation : but our 
[ Miniflcr had then got almoll the fole Direflion cf 
iblic Councils, and upon this Occafion the Plan of Po- 
c t.ld laid down to himfelf, tirlt began to appear: This 
ftif'lsw, ri lorg as the Court cf France did nothing to 
lOr interrupt his I'cueiliun of Power in this Kingdom^ 
i!d do no:i.ing that might diiplcafe them ; but, on the 
ry, wculd dii . il they delired, and connive at wJiac they 
Mind to do, m far as was confiitent wi:h hi: Safety 
c bonie. This, I f.y, was his Plan ; That it is the Plan 

rrer lirce purlunl, I fmll make appear from the 

Tenor c! hii Cor.tluA : And, when we coniidtT the 
sof it. w^ Cinnrr wonlcr at Kis h.nving emplov'd fuch 

Relation, in ccnccr:ing and e;i:>bl'(hiiig tuch a Plan. 
a Purfuance tf this Phn. .ind dirtdiy contrary to :hiE 
of Politics we (huuld 1 ave purlued, aiid ft,>r which we 
tpcnded fu much BIooJ and '''rcul..r(:, he reluled toac- 
il this fole Mediition oflerVl us by Sp.in, or to make 
iWvantige of ihis Diffcrercc thjt had h.ippencd bc- 

the Courts of France -.•.nil Spn;n. I'tom o-.ir refufing 
ept of this Mediation, the Court (.1 rr.tnce had fonif: 
n to hope, thftt the DiHerence o^'tween the Couits of 
a and Madrid might remain unaccommodated, nil Hie 
I find an Opportunity for niakini;; up the Bnach occa- 

by (ending back the Inf^nti of Sprim ; but the Court 
lio were fo irritated at the AFro .t put upon thetr. 
hey resolved at any Rate to accommodate their D\f- 
zs with the Court of \'irnna. and for this Piirp^fe the/ 
Minifier privately to Vienna, by whofe Means T;c.i- 
'Peace, Guaranty and Comm;'''ci;, were cunt.'!'jdr-i L-c- . 

tvvf-r. 







( 104 ) 

AMintA,Oeo(weeii tbetwoCourci in ihe Beginning nf ibe Yar lyjj. 
II 1740. ( The conclnding tf thcfc IrtJiies. Sir, aoti ihc good 

K^'Y"^'^ CofreJpondtnct ihercbjf eUablifliRl between the Coum »f 
VieniiA »d Mft^jrid, gave s mofl juft and rfafonabic A'lim 
to France. At tbc Court uf Spain wn highly and molt juftly 
initAtH Hgninll her, and as the HouTe of Aufl'ia w-ai hff 
molt dangn'ooi nnd invetrrate Eflcin)', the had grut Rcaloa 
ro b« 3fr4iJ of a ctofe Union bctuwn thtfe iwo Povm: 
She Itsd even iome R»ron to feai an immrdiaie Attach 
But ail the other Poweriof Europe, andthi* Nition in par- 
ticular, according to our aottent and right Plan of roititi, 
lud Rcafon to rrjoice at this Union : T.vcn itippofe thr Fc* 
pe/oT and Spam had jointly attacked France, we might havf 
looked on wiili Indrtfciencr, till one of the Parlici h*d be- 
gun to pu(h her Cofitjudl too ftr. Till this had hapjifncd, 
even ibe Durch might have looked on with Jedrffetence 
for tbo' there was ;^t that Time a Oirpute fubfifling bct< 
them «nd the Etnperor, in relation to the Oltend com 
that Difpuic wat not of Tuch Consequence at 10 occj 
Breach ; aod if the Etnperor had, in C'onjunftioo with Spgil, 
reTolved to attack France, be nould cctcaitily have factiSccd 
thai Oitnpany, for the lake of gaining a Neunalti/ btm 
tlir Dutch. 

■ Accordingljr, SiT-. wc faw, that the Dutch teltifieJ u 
Apprehcrfioni Irotn iliofe I'mlici, or fiom tbc cItTie Uniot 
thereby ellablilbed beiit'een the Etnpernr and Spain Bat 
upon fhii Occasion our Miniller'K PUn of Politict produced 
anrwF^efi, which hat been attended wi:h many oataUe 
Mtfchirfi tn thii Nition, and has now at lali overturned th* 
Otiancc of Power in Europe. Ai France hid mod j\iKf 
taken the Alarm, arid found Am cou'd not inl\il any Fun 
into the Dutch, fhe had Recour(c to cur Mituller herr, m 
oidti to fill our Court with Apprchenftoni from ifaofe Trca- 
iie«, that had bceii concluded between the Emperor aad 
Spain at Vienna For tt>it Putpore, (be invented a Story 
cf I'Cr having had certain Information frum \'icnr.a, itul 
iMre were fome feciei ArticJcj, by which the Emperor aid 
Spain had agreed to take Gibraltar and Poitmahon from a, 
10 defeat the Protedant Socceffion by refloring the PreteBda, 
And to rain our Trade with Spain, by gr*n:>ag laany cuttfi- 
derable Advantaget rathe Emperor's Sub^efls; .-icd that tU 
onlj way we hid to g<iard againQ thefe terrible DcDjas 
W£i by entering into a dcferfive AUtance with her. 

* llio' thii Story was in itfelf ridkulou», bectuJe of in 
being imptnAicable for the Emperor and Spain to rStH^Mt 
any o( thol^e Deftgni iigainft us r Tho' both the EtapecM 
and Ikiog of Spain rxprefily deaied iberc bclrg uy fac^ 

fetm 



( J05 ) 

Articin t Tho' they invjccd us to accede to the Trea- Anno u, Geo 
Bcluded between tliem; and tbo' ic nasver)' iiiucli die ^'- ■740> 
rt Intcrell to do fo; >et lucii was our Mini/lcr's In- ^./'V"^ 
I over our C'ounciis. fucli his Attachment to the Pian 
laics he tiad iaid down for his own Cc ^:i'*, that he 
Jpi on his late Majelly :o give Creili' u. ■.: i& impro- 
Fxcncb-Scory, and toconcJude with France the I'lracy 
•over in September 172;. which 'J'rcLty the King of 
. was drawn into, by making him believe, that one of 
cfignj of it was, to retlore tiic Protclt,.nts of 7'horn, 
cuie the Oblemince of the Treaty of U:iva ; but he 
tw the other contr^ding Parties had no i'uch Deiign, 
crcfore be foon left thcin. 

'hu:i. Sir, we were drawn in to fccure France againft 
aiaclied by the Emperor and Spain, when, according 
anticnt Plan of Politics, we fliould rather have pro- 
thit Attack ; becaufe we might eitlily have ufccn care 
eiliier Side (hould have pufhed the War too far, and^ 
■Dcaa time our Trade would have greatly tncrcifed by 
(cajr of the Trade of France. 1 know. Sir, it will 
I, chat the Minifler, wliofe Conduit is now the Quef- 
sfbre uff had no hand in that Treaty, becaulie he was 
Hanover when it was concluded ; bu:as he had then 
icf Oire£tion of our AfFiirs, and as it is very impro- 
■ny EngliOi Miniller at Hanover Ihuuld conclude a 
'.erf* fuch Importance, without the Advice of theCoun- 
r» therefore the Treaty's being figned at Hanover, is 
«f of his having had no hand in it. But, i hope, it 
X be pretended, that he had no hand in advifing the 
•a taken in Purfuance of this 1'rezty ; and 1 lliall 
ew, that ihoie Meafurcs were more pernicious, and 
plainly demonftrsted his Dependance upon the Coun- 
Fraace, than the Trtnly itielf. 'i he Treaty w»s r.o 
biD a defenfive Treaty • and if France hnd been at- 
, we were tiiereby obliged to tataidi her with no 
kan 8000 Foot and 4000 Horic, and ihat not till two 
p After Application Oiouid be m^de for :heni ; !o chat 
l«»r, from this Tre^iv, the leali Occ:;/:on fur pii::ing 
M to the Expencc cf augmenting our Army, or cf 



- r ; f Ti-.. . '1 i-_-i. 1 .. . 



AnnetitCee. *« IhoulJ (hen haw had Time enough to (mA oat»! 
II. i?40. dronfufficient foi difappoiniing ihctr Dfltgii!. 

^/^y""^^ » It is ihertfore imfoflihlc, Sir, to find out a Rnfon fer 
ihc Mcafuiejwc look in Pufluanceof thii Tr«ty, »By otkff 
wny than by confidcriDg what wai tht Intrttl). and ^i-hiit iC 
ihat Time Blight be the Views of the Court of Franer. 
from tbciKC. indeed, we may iim) a Rcnfon. ard h wai, [ 
■m fully convinced, the only true Rnion. FniKC hid i 
Mmd not only to gtuid againft her tieing attacked, b'.;- it 
was her Intcrell, and (he cenatnly intended to bre.-.i 
Correl'pondcnce which had b<en eibbrifhrd berwrrn th< 
pcict and Spain, and to chaAife (lie Court of Spain a littJe 
for (iariog lu lake any Mcarure< contrary to hrr loirrclt i at^ 
both ihefe r.nds ihey intendcil to occomplifh by Mt^nt of 
her Influence upon our Miriner, without puitirg heifrlf to 
any giCrit F.xpcnce. nr coming lo any open Rtach 
with the Emperor or Spain, Wag this pofTible? Vr., . ., 
by making the Oit't Paw of (his Nation, Die accompiilbed 
■il (he intended, md in the manner (he JotetHled. The 
NtceSity of pulling down the overgrown Power of die 
Houlc of AuUrp. becnme now the (avooritc Topic o* all 
our C'oart-Poiiticiiai nnd PamphlrtKn i and in order lo 
prevert the Couns of Vienna ai>d Madrid from arrying 
iheir dangerous Drfigns into Execution, our Miniflcr pre* 
vaitrd upon ut to fend out two powerful 5<]uadroDi, obc to 
infuti the ^paniinJi upon their own Co-tllt, and ABMlNrr to 
prevent the return of the Galleons ; but as France dtd Mt 
intend, that we (hould reap any Advartige to oorrclve*, or 
doSpain any real Injury, therefore, our ^uadron were oo( 
lo attack ibc Spaniard* etlhet hy Sea rr Land, but only to 
perftodctbera, in cafe we met with thrm at Sen, to deliver 
their Treature into our H.tndj, in Truil for the IcvcnU Par- 
tt*i concerned. 

• Tiius, Sir. FratKe got us to clwflifc the Court of Spain 
tor daring loakesoy Mnlum contrary- ipher Intcrtn ; aad 
then (he macte a Merit at th^t Ccuit. of her banng pre- 
vented ui Irom doirg any Miichief to them, aotwkhftaad- 
iBg their having drtlarcd Waragitnft oi, and openly at- 
tacked our Town of Gibraltar. By this Menn^ (nc laid a 
FoortUtion for getting herfelf rnonriled with the Coonef 
Spain, and by Mcin> of ihat Reconcilement, and ber I>jb> 
enec upon our Minillcr. (he accomplilbed the other Poinl 
She had in View, wbkh wai lo create a new Breach betwcra 
Ibe Courti oJ Vienna and Madrid. For thii Purpaft, kM 
inoA Chrtllian Majelly became now (be Mediator benMtt 
Q» and the Court of S[wn, and by hit Mediation the Treaty 
of Sc\-ii;ewu coflclwied, which createJ a new and alnofi 

irrccoacUaMe 



r to; ) 

jhit Breach bctueen the Courts of Vienna tnd j|nnoi4.CcD 

U .1740. 

thii TfCity we were brought upon the Brink of '-/'VX*^ 

to niter into a W-dt, m CcijuriAion nith 
Spain, agaiiift the Emperor, the who:c Nation 
okc the AUrm, fo that our MtDJIler wai obliged 
' U hii Dwo Siftty ; and thib drove him prccipi- 
Ibc Gturaaty of (ue Pngmahc Sariklion. in order 
upon tb< Etgpcfor to aomit the Iccrodu^Mo oi 
roopa iiico the ilrong Places of Ttiicany, Parpu, 
tk. The Treat)' of Seville betag. by thii din- 
r*(t\ Step, fully executed upon our Pirt, it wu 
cjcpe^ a dae Performance on the Part of Spam: 
having now by our Meani recovered iicr laRa- 
f the Court uf Spain, and ii being highly ndvan- 
for the Trade oi France 10 have Dilpuies alwiys 
between Hi And Spiin. France took Care ihit 
d peiivim nothing uf what hiiJ been prDmiTed 
n by the Treaty ot Seville, except, I thinh, the 
wioo of the Ship Pnncc rredcrlck, and perh^p* foine 
E Other Ship* that had been liizcd in the Porta uf 
at (Le Beginning af the Ru pture. A11 CO all our other 
iod«, they rrmAtncd un4jj«llcd : The Tam foradjufl- 
b/ CommiflJrici expired; that Term wm agjin 
reMWrd, and in the mean time ihc Spani;iidA ex. 
Right ihcy bad fct up, of fearching our Ships lq 
ican Sell, ard Teizing fjcb of them at bid any 
booid, whitb they were plciifed tocallt^M/jo^i;^. 
ily Ufpr^d-ition* were committed upon our Mcr- 
ihe WcllJndici; diily Comp!ainii wrre tnidc to 
cr here : xod ;hu& ACiirs llccd, uhcii Fraocc, in 
n with .SpjtnaMJ Sardinia, thought lit to xtlack 
pcfor in the Vor 1733. with an avowed DrUgn to 
In of all liii Dominion! in Italy. 
ibr Bcjiniiing of the tatc !<cigD, Sir, the Power of 
"" bf Aufirja wa« thought too »^eak, without the Ad- 
*" \y to their other Itatbn Doininiot.!. A Mini- 
i ■ r-J for Itaving thJt Houfc in foch a 

; reaty of Uirerbt : V\'e hud piocurctl 
the iixpeoce ofa War w^th Spain; bccauCt, 



( to8 ) 

Annoi^,Cco Yean before guannty'd the Pragmatic Sinflion, by which 
11.1740. [he biiiperut M^s ip<Juc:d to admit of the IntroduAion of 
^^""^ Sp.inifti Iroops in:o July, whicli Troops were now employ- 
ed in att4ckiiig him: And a third founded upon our own 
panicu'a I':t;.-ell, bccaufe we could not othrrwife cxpeAio 
obtain Saciaf-ctioii or Security from S^ain. The(e, Sir, 
were weighty ConfiJcrations j but the Plan of Politics our 
MinilUr had bid down, prevailed over all theie ; and we 
coHtinucd idle, tho* not cxpencelefs Speclator.s till the Power 
of ihe Houfc of Aullriawas diminifhed by the Lofi of Na- 
ples and Sicily, and the Power of France increaled by the 
Acccfiicin of Lorain. 

* During this War, the Spaniards favoured us with fome 
Sortof IntcnnilTton of Depredations ; but as foon as Jt wjt 
over, they renewed them with more Vigour than ever, and 
openly boifled of their being encournged, and that they 
would be proteAei.1 ngiinll the liHifts of uur Refentment, by 
France. A^our I'rade in general, as welt as our particular 
Mercliants, fiiftered greatly by thcfe Dcprtdations, it was 
highly the Interell of the Nation to infilt peremptorily upon 
Sati&f^>^lion ; hut as this was contrary to the Tntcrell of 
France, our Minillcr's I'lin of Politics prevailed over tbe 
Ir.tcrcli of his Country, and ih.-* Cries of hii Coun:ryfneB. 
At IxA fonu-lJiing mull be done for his Sif;:ty here at home, 
and ata great Expencea Treaty wasob;ained. by whicli we 
neither got SatisfiAion nor Stfcurity, buta FounJaiton for 
another ten Vcan trifling Negociation. This, he fuund, 
the N-ition was too wile to be amufid with, and therefore he 
found himfi.lf under a Neceflity of entering into 3 War 
Bgainll Spain : This Wsr, Sir, [he Court of Fr.incc mi 
obliged tu connive at, rather thtn rijk the Loij of a Mini- 
Her, who had (hewn himfelf Co much their biavc ; but how 
was this War to be carri'.d on i According to the Intereft 
of this Nation, it wai certainly to be carritd on in the moll 
vigorous Manner, in order to make it of a (bore Duration | 
and the mod exaft Care was to be taken of our Trade, 
bccaul'e there only the Enemy could hurt us : But according 
to the IntereA cf France, the War was to be carried on ia 
that Manner, which might m^tke it the moll lalting, aod 
mcll txpofie our Trade lo luffer by Spanilh Privateers ; be* 
ciufc by this Means, our Trade might at lail be ruined paft 
a'.l Redemption, and the Trade of Fr.ir.ce cflablifhed fo. as 10 
be out of our Power to hurt i:. I Ihall leave Gentlemen to 
jjjge, in which of thel'e Methods the War has been hitherto 
c'trricd on : for if it has been carried 0.1 in the latter Me- 
thod, it i:i a Proof tiiat ojr Miniltrr h3» tothi^ very Day 
purfued that Plan of Fo^itics, which I have laid fae laid 

down 



( 109 ) 

his Conda£l, at the very Begirning cf his Admi- Annoi4,<;eo. 
I. II. 1740. 

dl bc«* !cave. Sir, to mention two other FaAs, ita i/^^^J 
ihis Plan. By the Treaty of Utrecht, the Port and 
of Dunkirk were to hedeftroyed, and never to be 
i and by a Treaty between his Inte Majefty and 
in the Year 1717, it was ftipubted. That no Port, 
ir Fortilication Ihould be made or buih at Dunkirk 
yke, or any other Place whatever along that Coaft. 
vo Leagues of either of chofe two Places : Vet, Sir, 
Si this Minifter began to have the chief Dirc&ion of 
irs, not only the French began to ufe Dunkirk as a 
E it Was admitted as fuch, and as a FlemiOi Port too, 
fainding its being in the Poflcfllon of France, even 
IT CulTom-koufe Books ; and great Quantities of 
Brandies were not only allowed to be imported from 
but to be imported as Flemifh Brandies, by which 
lided paying ihe high Duties impofed by Law upon 
Brandies. This Point being once gained, the 
hon began to repair the Portiind Harbour of Dun- 
as CO nuke the Harbour fit for receiving very large 
lod now at Ull [hey have begun to repair [he rortili- 
tnd crcA Batteries; (o that in Ciife of a War with 
we may expert to ha\'e our Trade as much infilled 
kirk Privateers, as ever it vt-as in the lall War. 
b, Sir, is a farther Proof of our MtniUer'ii Complai- 
■France: and in oiderto add .inocher to thir., Imuft 
that both France and Spain hr.vc Irifb Rtgiments 
Scpricc ; but tho' thofc Regiments are laid to be in 
'ice of France or Spain, and receive their Pay from 
Chritlian or liis molt Cilhcli:: Mnjcfty. ycc they 
perly in (he Service of the I'rtrendcr, and acknow- 
mfor their Kingandchicf MalUr. Therefore, if it 
reafon, it is fumeihing very like Trealbn, 10 alTift or 
U the Recruiting of thofe RegimeQttin any of his 
s Briiilh Dominions: Yet fuch was our MiniAcr's 
ifance tor France, that, at their Dcfire, he had like to 
urred being guilty of this Crime. Nay, he would 
■have incurred it. and thole Regiments would have 
ruiced openly in thcfr Kirgdoms.and with the Con- 
Hir Admlnillration, if fomt.- of thofe whom he has 
k'd on as his Hnemie^, >'ii.l n^. warned him of hi^ 
I which ihews that their Oppcfition tu his Meafures 
proceed from Malice and Refcniment, as he has al- 
Lnoated, but from a Hncere Regard to the Guod of 
)ontry ) for furely u malicioDs En^my would have 
id to have fcenhim commit fuch a criminal Error, 

and 




f no ) 

Annot^.Ceo. and woaM, ibcrefqre, have uken nre not co prerem hi* 
W. 1740- bciog guilty cF i(, by tore-warning him of his Imager. 

V*/^"^' • HflVing now, I hope, Sir, lulBcienily dcitCkallmcd Obt 
Minilier'j Plan of Politici wi:h regard lo foreiga Affuri, I 
jfaalt rexc endeivour to inveltigacc and dcmon^nitc h:i Plti 
of Politics With regard to our domctltc AffVin j nnd here, 
be fccmi lo have laid it dowo at ■ Kule, to govrro bv the 
fole Means of Bribery aodCorrupiion ; and ^ this P»'"-'i'' 
to prevent our being able to IdTen our Dtbti, or abo i 
of our Taxe?, by ruooing the Nation eveiy Yeai tain t a • 
ordtftary and unneuefl^ry Charges, and by every uihcr Me- 
thod he could contrive. Upon hit fidl Acicnion to the 
fole DircQiofl oi our public ASairi, we were in a faJr my 
of being able in a/borltime to pay oiT every Shilling- ' 
public Debt. The South Sea Scheme, by its bcmg i 
cdly coodu6cd. hid, indeed, rained many private ^'. 
it was of fingular Service, attd might hive been m 
much gtcatcr Service to the Pubic. (>jr I 
were thereby made redeemable : The Iniciefl j . 
moil of our public Dcbti was lo be reduced in a icw Vcuf 
from Ji-vi to yiar fier Cfnt ; and the South Sea Compl&jr 
were obliged topy oS ff-vtM MiUiimtof cur Dehti at onct, 
by finking (a much of ibcir Oipiial. By thcJc Meani, de 
Sinfciag tuiui woald have been fo much incrcaicd. t 
it had been rehgioufly appticd, our public Debts mtght 
been by thii time aJmoA enurely difcbargcd. and all tKt 
gricvou» Tajcei abotiflicd ; but thii would nave very 
leffcned the MiniflerS Fund for Corruption, by drmol 
many of ibolc Pofli and Placei which be haiai hii f)ii'< 
and therefore, according to hit Plan, this EffcCt w 
means to be prevented : The public Charge wa» to b.; ; 
tBCTe^red, in order to oblige ut to apply the ^in^cing 
to the current Service, or to rua as much in D<bl with 
Hand, ii we piid off with the other; and the Land* 
wa< to be leprefentrd u the moll grievou* Tax lo tbc 
tio4), bccaufc it Aimtlhed him with the lean Meao} for 
mpcion. 

* In PurTuance of theiie Maxim, the froem MWimt te 
by the 5outh->ea Company to the Public waig< ' n- 

leafrd, attd the Expcncet of the Dvtl-Lift w: .J 

inereafcd, that a new Debt of ;oa,oooh wai ; jI 

tbeVear 172;. for paying the Debts of the C- -.J 

the like Sum hjid been granted to hit late NUjc/iv tat ik 
Cime Purpofe. but Jjiir Year* before: and upuo hii prefctf 
Mxjcily'i Acccffiun, an Addition of loo.oool. a Year wis 
Buidcto the Civil LiA Revenue, bcbdet the i t;,ooo]. vbick 
msgruued Ibr making good a prcttnkd Dc&tcacy ra tktf 

RCVCAOt. 



Be'**frgra««^WPr of lie fttivfeof AnllHa, {htx 
•ra> ite lalJ, and hsd the lend to fi-ar, thfrefore we 
bave been lh« Ul! thai put cutklvei tu &ny Expeitce 
jj^iinJl thit Ojnger ; and yet we weie not only 
life only Powrr in Europe that put itrelf to any 
tt»t Account- The Du:ct> ihnt liy moft 
fovcry litrle appre hen five, that they did not 
secede to the Treaty of Hjnover till near ■ Year 
Dtsde: nv.d the French who hid the mol^ to fear 
Itiapce between the Jluipcror arvd Sp' ir^, put 
ID Ittile or DO Expcncr, nor give a» nny AffilUttce 
rre openly attacked by Spain, on airount of 
for preventing ihe Dinger thry liy cxpolcd u>. 
r look I :,oco HrlTiani immrdntely into our 
il Siibiidtn to ttir Kicg of Sweden, the King oF 
iHeOukeof WoJfvmSuttle : and wb.n was moH 
iry. the Subtidy :o tbt Duke ol Wo ftmliuule 
oird till hnlf a Year aTirr wr hid made up Mat- 
e Emperor. an<* the HelTun Troops were comi- 
Pay for llever»l Yesr* after. 
rrirrr rr-ciudr. Sir, that all the extraordinary 
■ ■ I to on a<-cotmt of. or eonfeqtient to 
c er. could proceed from nothing but 

n: our plying off uny confiJpnbJe Part of 
iboliQiingany of our Tajie^; and iheabolifh- 
t Duty ill the Year 175c. in order to ditninilli 
Fund, ami rtviving if again in [he Year I7)2» 
the latidT^x, iia farther Proof of thii Dtftgo. 
uid be tedious (0 mrnnon all the Arguintmi ittii 
irousbt (n Pro'T of ttiii Defign, and at I hive 
ifttt iriiiwi Tiwailiwriw I ftall iiwiM* 




( 112 ) 

Annoi4,Gco wliioli, Vm afxAtii^ w^II nevrr be ag^in, we mulT, 1 ihHtl:* 
II 1740. conclude, [bit the Minillrr who drfractd it could hare 00 
\y\/^\^ DcOgn ihac our Debti ihouM ever be p»td, or oar Ton 
ilimioiQivd. 

* Before 1 bare done, Sir. witb thi« MiniUci'i Cbqdofl, I 
mud uke Nwice ^{ one ihing which itxi been too often prat- 
tired aa.'icr all MinillEr^, asJ th'it if, the tettmg o' poblk 
Seckiriiiei Hard am. witbouc any I-und foi their Paymcot, oU 
tiiey ran ra a great Dilcoant, when Ihry are bought up bf 
the Miniilcr't Frirr.dt and I'coli. pcrtiapt in I'rult for otm* 
ficir, and ttien ;i KuimI is provided lor pa/ing them off At the 
iuU Price. I'his, I lay, has been too oCcen pra^lcd under all 
Minillen. when ihey could have any Opportuan)- at it, aai 
thi) bai not been left urpra^ifed under thii Micilbr. Wc 
all know what n prod]giui:iS;iiii that Debt due to the Ana/. 
and to foK'ign Stiici, were at liji brought to, tvliicb cob- 
tinued for IcveralVeanto circulate undcnhc Niircoi Anny 
DebFctuitkiataik Inierell of /nr frr Crnt, without any Fu*d 
forpyjng off the Principal. Mofl of thole UebeMurti th« 
were certified before the 3 ill of March 1719, were lubtciihtd 
irtlo the South Scu. Company, bot of them there len-.ifni 
tufub&rtbed r^^ir 400,000!. and after (he itdcl 
1719, new Army Debentures were made out for Dei 
before Certibcd ^r near 550,000! (b that for fomc 
bcfofcihe Vear 1727. there wat rear a MilUon cu^.^ 
is Aimy Debenture* it/mr prr Ctnt^ withotit any 
Fond for p.-iyi»>gtbc Principal r for asihc Sinkirc^ I" 
been ijipropriated 10 xhe PayinPntof Debi- conw-nt- -(->.f 
the Vear 1 7 i5, fome People doub<cd if it could be a,'^ ; 
(he Paymcnccf ihrfc Ocbcnturei « and as there mt .. 
Bicat Number of them at M9rl:el, they came at bdi -jj be 
loid at above 50I. ftr Ctnl. Dil^ount. But lowatds lh> 
btter End of the Year 17^6. all that could be got ax < 
Di'cuuct tvere bought up. and a certain Shop in thtt 
Wji pjniculariy noted for the purchaling fuch Di^niiatJL 
At UU. upon the 7th of March 1736. a Refoluiioo wai 
CO JD thi) llouic, lu py off all thofe Army Oebcott 
which puUic NotKc WM given, lad by an AQ of tbei 
Srfliun, the Sinktng-Fund wit appropriated to the payiag 
off all tJtcle Debentures at ihctr full Price, by wh'xb tk 
M Puichileri got u a few Moniba above 30/«r Cem/ z}mt 
Profit. 

• Whether the Mjniller hitnfeirwa> personalty cti 
lothi* joOb, 1 (halt not prcteod. Sir, todetertnir- '■■ 
Vt hi» Fiic:id> were known to be concerned in :■■ 
iberbc wu conceioed or no, it* 1 ;.m (ure, a <. 
cas ncvci' be dccennincd aa losgai he has the U 



If ^oblic AfFiiri, If lie iv»s perrorftUy concerned, or J 
*•■ 'notice to hii Ffien-i, it was ccr«inly 

' < Proof offrcli FaAi catinotbccx- ^ 

}- vr, and ai upon thrj Motfon \vc luvH 

> ^ Inch pitiicular Cn.iiei jg^ioll bii^| 

I '••ifig uxm, I Hull t)u: iiieaiion any more of 

. c art oEhcti, ol much the fame Nature, 

•■ v-n bfprded. I Uy, Sir, we hjivc no Oct 

f , ■'S or proving any fuch Crimes for luppor 

img ihii N[nion; and I mLiU Qiy, I iiin gmily rurprii 
n Knr. jImJ fj.Ttc Cmlptncn who, I bclifve, mCAn wct 



5*r.-. 

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Gcntlcoim who fpoke fome ui_. 

^-!ingu;(h between aMoiiooforim 

Mill A Moiian for removing him ffOE. 

A Motion lor aa Impcichmeat mul 

>5 panicu'nr Allegitions of s crimii 

.^Jiiitr Son of Proof of ihofe Altegationt, 

■ an Bg'cc to It i but a Motion hic temovinf 

ty fojnde<1, fl from the whn)e Tcn&r cf hi 

M Id gcQcial, tliat he nicU cither h.ive 

! be X very xvralc-Aljn. I have cJkpUinL. 

Vha cf Poltic! with rcjsrd both ta foieigl 

: I bare HickVii, ( tliiolc, (acb tliani 

.'-Ing hit I'Un of Pohtict. (hat wc mul 

■.vicked. Of 4 very wcaIc Minifler. Li 

WT h-xVc toJo next Siimmcr: Wc ar 

fjr « dew P4t|i<imcn( : WearcH 

, -r Mfiltirc- f>r prclerving a Bu 

c irrecyvciabt] 

vvliiirt wc hj 

It tnr ilr m, who bits lAid ic doMrn u\ x Maxitnj 

.■ the (nt« Mf^fi* of Bribery and Conujji-oa , 

:nat any of the Pow^r! <>f Kurope *tiH entei 

. r or Concert with us, whilU ciiir AWiin an 

Ste D redion of a MiotRcr who ba) tbtwn hinrcl 

.Jive Ui Fiance ? 

lat « Oan^rr then. Sir, mull the I/brniei of ihii 

' ■'* What a, Danger muft the Librrii ' 

*. to, bjr cuntiiKiing tliif Minillcr b 

>n Power f If the Hunowrdble GcniJ 

hii, Sir. I »m furr, he would not ul. 

-yod for Evil, or of rffting ihU Minillc 

JuOice whrt-h Ic dcnicJ to hit T't 

: .1 which he hM ftiewi 

.: him neither CJa^d noi 

.^k-.i..id inro the lUnJi of A 




Anno 14, Geo tioD or our public AiTairs, at fuch a critical CoDJunADie, is 
II. 1743. doing the grcatell Evil, the greatelt InjulUcc to our CouDtry. 

V./V"^^ Therefore, I hope, every Gentleman wbo„froin thia Midi- 
Aer's former Conduct, and from the prefent mclancboljr 
Situation of Af&irs, both Abroad and at Home, thinks he 
has Rcafon to fufpefl his being either a very wicked, or a 
very wfcak Minilter, will give his Affirmative to the piefeai 
Queflion. 

Sir Robert Walpole, 

Si r. 
Sir Ruberc ' I confefs, I am at a Lors what to fay, or how to jufiifjr 

Wuljiolc. myfvlf on this Occafion. i had often heard, that fome 

fuch Motion was defigned againll me; but I was always at 
a Laf> t:> ccnjcAun: what the f honourable GeDtlemcn might 
have to fuy in lupport of their Motion. My own InnoccKC 
convinced mc, ihiy had oo real Crime, nor any wilfbl Neg- 
IcA to lay to iny Charge; and I therefore fuppofed, they 
had her.rd fomc malicious Stories, which they had givenioo 
much Credit to. and which 1 might eaftty ftiew the Falfluwd 
cf. when 1 came to hear tbcm explained. But now I ban. 
heard the whole Charge againll me, I do not think there ii 
any one Part of ii. except one fingle Fad, which is not a* 
Ciurgc, not only againll his Majelly and all thofe of htl 
Louncil, but ullo againll both Houfes of Parliament; u 
well as againU mc. If 1 were to anfwcr for myfcif ajone, 
] lhou]d think my Talk very eafy ; but ai I am to aorwcr 
for Kiiigi IiOrds nnd Commons, ii gives me great Pain, k& 
their Cauf'e Ihould fuller thro' any Incapacity in me: Y« 
d<ingerou.4 and pnintul as the Talk is, I mull underuke it, 
and IhAl be as concifc a& the Nature of the Catc will mdmil 
of. 

< I have, indeed, thiF Advantage, Sir, that all the QbJK- 
tions now m..dc to the L'on<Jud uf the Admi nil! ration, haw 
been alrcauy ar<M%cu'il to liii: Satl-fa^ion of a ^lajariiy of 
hdihlloufef oi r.:i!:amcnt. utiu, 1 believe, to the Sati^faAiM 
of a MnjoiiLv ot :lw better lort uf People in the Natioa; 
thereilre, I nci-ii c:iiy rcjLSt a few ol iIjoIc Anlwen thai 
have been m:Jv already, wiiich I Hull do in the Order of 
1'init: in \^h;cii Jif Icvtrral Ti.infaiTiiuDj happened, and CM- 
{;:q'.ic..i!) nuiii bigm whh our reiuiiiig to accept of the folt 
.\!tdi.')l-un ciFc c<i us by Spjin, upon the Breach between 
;)i:i[ Con:: r.n-J clic Cci^it of I'rancc, about the latter*! 
:ir<;:':ing t*X &.c iutcndcl ?.!arriagc between their King and 
ti:7 li.!.i:i:n cf S^.'iin. I hope it will not be faid, we ^ad 
any Ruatun 1 qu:'.rtel \\'::h ri.tRce upon thst Account i and 
ti.triTcTc, if CUM- n^iq-'iing of that .McdiacioQ might have 

ocafioml 



ficnedour qaamliing with Fiance, we hnd no OufiMrs Aifhou. (Teo. 
it, ualelt we had {omctbing veiy benclicial forourftlves " '74"- 
expect by the Acceptance, A KccoacilialioQ bcmcen the 
suruof \ ienna ind Madrid W2», ic ii true, what wjt to 
wiibcdfor by all Europe, u well ai bf u', frovicrd ic 
been brcugtit about without, any Ddign to dilluib am 
^nnquiility, or the Tranqtiilliiy oT Europe i but both Psr- 
et were then To high in their DeniAndi. tliAt we could 
|jpc for DO SucccTi; and iC the Ncgotiatioa bid ended 
pithouc Elleti, we might have expected the common Face 
Mtratorj, the diiobtiging of botli Panicj. There- 
t, »i it Wat our Incercri to ktcp Well witli both, I itiull 
ihink It v/ii the mod piudcnt Part we could ad, to 
tl'ute the Mediation ofKred. 

I'be ncic Step of ourforrigo Condufi fouTvd fault wich, 

the Treaty of Hanover. Sit. tf I wete to give the true 

liltory of ihat Treniy, which no Cjentleman cm defirc I 

Sould, I amftite.! could fully jaftify my own Cordoct ; bt.t 

1 liu Do<i Je^re to julUfy my uwn, witiiout jjllifv itig at the 

itne time hu late Majclly'i ConduA, 1 miJll obieri'r, that 

III late Majelly had Tuch lolivination, a* convinced rot oaly 

1. but all thofe of his Council, both at 1 lame and Abtoid, 

sat (ome dangerous Defigos had been formed bttwern the 

tpcror and Spain, at t^e Time of ibcit concludirg the 

Treaty at Vienna ia May lyxj- OtHgm. Sir, which ivcre 

tngcroDi not only to the Liberties of this Nation, bat to 

DC Liberties of Horopc. They were roi only to wrcH 

'CibnUtir and Portmabone from tliii Nation, atid to force 

tlir Prcirniicr upon ui, but they tvere to have Don Carlos 

^^arricd to the Empeior'* eldcft Daughter, who would 

Kbcttby hiiv« hid I Probability of uniting in bit Perfoo, or 

*In tJ c Pcrfoo of fonie of hia Succe ilbn, the Crown& q| 

France and Spain wiih the Imperial Dignity, and the Au> 

taftrian Dominioni. It wj» tltcrrfore highly reaionabic, boih 

^u) France and ut. to ijtke the AUiid at fuch Deftgnf, and to 

^tbirik UcMisei of prevcniing their beingcajrted iiitoFaecJ- 

tmn But with regard lo us, it was more particularly our 

»r ' tiklcc the Alaiiiif bcctufe we wcie [O have been 

u ly dltjckcd. 

* 1 UiaJl gram. Sir, it would have been very ilith-u^t, if 
not impoflibte, for Spain and the Emperor, joined tugeihcr, 

»lo have in\;i(Jcd, or made themlclvcs Malle^^ot' any uf his 
Klajclty'f Btmfh Dominion* ; but will it be fiiid. ihcy might 
not hive mvaded his Mujclly'i Diutiniotu in CiCinuny, in 
onjer (o /orce him to a ComplixPic with wli^i ilicy dclired 
pf him, 31 King of Grent hnui'iai And if (hctte Dtuni* 
had brcn invaded en account of i Qairrel with thU 
Q 3 NatioD. 




( ii6) 

rAnno(4, ^'o Narinn, IhouM not wt have been ohttg'd, bath io Ho&o«r 
JL »74* snd Jntctcft, lo drtrnd ihem ? When we vert tbai ihrn. 
*«/'V"X-' tetied, it w>j ibeiefore aUblutelv reccflity for ui to nuke 
tn Allianrc wiili Fnocc t and itui wc tn«gSt nw tniQ <oo 
much to their Afiiiiitnce. it was likewilc i-frffiiry vj fotm 
Allu&cei with tbe Nonhtrn Po*vfr>, mid n-icS f'-"- -* •*■- 
Princci m Gctminy, whJLb we never did. nor cvc 
wiihoui graotint; tiicm immediate ilubfiiliet. 'Ii^kc imu- 
furcs wtrc (heitforc, I Kill ttiiuk, not only prudent but nc 
ccfiiry. and by thefe Meafurei vvc maile u mi»<h mos' ' 
gcrciu fur ibc Emperor and S{um in attack Us, : 
would oiherwilr bavcbrcn. 

• Bui nil). Sir. iho' by ibefc Alliancetwe put ogi<«l*e( 
upon an equal Fooiingw.ih our F.ncmici. In c.tic of nri Ar* 
tacit, yet, in order lu picfcrvc ihe TraiinuiHiiy of FitrtjAf, 
»i welt ai our oM-n, there wa lomcihtng elfejo be ilon ' 
knew thJt War cculJ no: be begun or caftied on v. 
^oncy i we koKW that the Enipenji had no Mottey J. 
Purpofc, witlioul receiving large Krini(i:iaret fibm ^ ^ 
and we knew 'hntSpiin could t^d htm ro fuch RcmitOKO 
wilbout receiving Urge Returns of Tieafurc Irom ihe WeS- 
Jndiex. Tiieunly Wjy iherrfure to render iheteiwo Po«*Q 
inc«p«b'e of diliurbirg the 'rranqutlliiy of toiopc W3>. ti' 
fending B Sqandfon to the Wcll-lndici to liop ibe Re: 
the Spamlb Gallconii and (hu mflde it necefliiry 
(amr'i line to lend a Squadron ro ibe Mediirrrsneaa, t 
Security of our valaable Pof&ffioni in that Putt c: 
World. By ihcfe Meal'utcs the Htnperor law !t wu n..: 
fible tor him loaitack ui in any Part oi the World. { . 
Spain could give him no Affilbnce either in \Iq\ 
Troopt ■ ard at for the Spaoiardi Attack upoo G<i' 
it Wit fo Vain, We had no Ocnilon to call upon out 
(or Aflitiance : A IidsU Squadron of oorown prrv:r:..i . . r 
airtcking it by Sen, and from their Attack it Lin.i : hit 
notbiog lu fear; ihcy might haw knocked ihci- 
againlt iruicceQibIc Kecks, to ihii very Oi^y, wi 
ing that l-ortrrfi into any Danger. 

' I do nor p:eterKl, Sir, (a be a great Mailer of foreiga 
Afiur»: In that Poll in whicti ( h^ve the Honoar to fcrve 
his Majeity, it h not my BtifineU to meddle with ihrm i ud 
a* one of till M.ijclly% Council I hare but one Voter ; but if 
I hud been the iole Adviler of the I'mty ot Hanover, and 
all the t*>>c--.fi.rri tli.it were taken in Purfutnceor ii. IrMn 
what I lijive fji.l. I hope it will appcAr. that I do not Jrten* 
IO be cenfuiffd. cilhei » a weak or a w.rked Mtnrflrr o« 
thai Account t and now with regard to rhe Gaaraaty of iW 
Pngmatic tModuiD, J km leaUy (urprifeU u> fiod that \fea- 

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I ihu Expence. we had expofed the Balance of Power to Anno 14, Geo. 
i^er, or oorfelves to an Attack, it would have coll us, 'i-ii^' 
sham, » hundred Times the Sum, before we could recover 
Bvwt D-inger, or repel that Attack. 
' la all (uch Cafei there will be a Variety of Opinions. 

^rr*"*** *** ^ *^' °^ ^^°^* ^^° thought all [hole Ex- 
BOCi BKefliiry. and I had the good Luck to have the Ma- 
tmy of both Houfes of Parliament on my Side of the Quel- 
Mj bot this, it feems. proceeded from Bribery and Cor- 
|Kioa. St, if any one InHance hnd been mentioned; ii 
Ind been (hewn, that I eve^ offered a Reward to any 
[caber of either Houf;, or ever threained to deprive any 
lanbcr of hi» Office or Employment, in order to influence 
J vodoE in Parliament, there might have been Tome 
raond for this Charge; but when it is fo generally laid, 1 

I not know what I can fay to it, unlefs it be to deny it as 
SKralljr and as pofitively aj it has been afTirrced: and, 
■ik God ! till fome Proof be ofiered, I have the Liws of 
he Land, ai well as the Liws of Charity in my Favour, 
one Meiaben of both Hauler have, 'tis true, been re 
und from their Employments under the Crown ; but were 
key cm* told, either by me, or any other of his Mr.j,;[t) \ 
inmnti, that it was for oppcfing the Mcafures of ih: Ad - 
■iaiinuon in Parliament i They were removed, becau:e 
hii Majefly did not think fie to continae them longer in his 
Snvice. His .Mnjclly had a Right to do fo, and I know no 
Me thai has a Rignt to aft: him, What dod thou ? If hir> 
Uljefty had a Mirni that the Favours of the Crown (houl'i 
BRalate, would not this of irfelf be a good Renlon for re- 
■mig any of his Servants? Would not this ReafoQ be ap 
prandof by the whole Nation. e;:ccp:ihore ivho happ-'n !>.• 
te ifcc prElent PoJTcfrurs ? I cannot thercfb.-c Ice, hu-v- tii^^ 
tu be imputed to me ai a Crime, or how zi-y of the .'-'.iri^'i^ 
iGaifteis can be blamed for his doing whnt the I'l^b^ic i,:-.- 

II Concern in: for if the Public be well and f.iiEiifi.l:>' 
^mtA, it has no Bufincfs to af-c by whom. 
' ' Upon the Whole, Sir, it is a great C^mfoi: to Ric ::> 
hi, that my Enemies, ;iltcr aJl thsir B3:;:ti:<3;. c.n !nv r. > 

K'lilar Crime tn my Dsor, nor charge m:: Wiili ,-.n\ on^- 
ladioa, at Home or Abroad, th.it his not haJ the A]i 
nbotion of Parliament. And whitrvci l'coplcni:iy [h!:i:-: 
f Cbe VVifdom of the .Idmjniitrrttton, for 1 am fuic I ih\\\ 
K dcfiie them to think wcil of mine, tholr ConJuct v.'.'.' 
mkfjr itfcif Oar Tranquillity hts bscn ; rcrei vrd b:..: 
Jmiad and at II;mr, notwithlhndia^ 1 nioi unrc::|.;:::S - 
ti rio!cRi Oppoli:i<jn to all their McilLirvS : The t:'\- I- - 
lit of the Nilion has be:n purfu^i: Ojr Iridc h? il''- 

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Arnoi^^Georifhed: A Part of our Debt hat been paid off"; ind the 
II. 174a hnitd Interell has been very much eafed, with refpeCl to 

XyW^iJ that mod unequu] and grievous Burden, the Dtnd-Tax. I 
fay fot Sir, bccaufe upon Exnmination it will appear, that 
nichjn thehfixfeen or fcvinUeit Years, no lefs than 8,000, 
000 or our D^bt has been aAnally diJcharged, by the due 
Appiicition of the Sinkirg-Fund, and at leaft 7,000.000 
has been taken from that Fund, and applied to the Eafe of 
the Land fax ; for if it hud not been applied to the cur- 
rent Strvice, we mull have fupplied that Service by incmf- 
ing the Lnnd-Tax; and as the Sinking-Fund was origioslly 
deftgncd for paying off our Debts, and eafing lu of oor 
Taxes, the applying it in Eafe of the f^nd-Tax, u'as cer- 
tainty as proper and as neceffary an Ufe as it could be ap- 
plied to. 

* But. Sir. [ had almod forgot one F.i^, which feeni Ml 
be a particular Crime charged againll roe, ] mean that re- 
lating 10 Army-Debentures. I am fjrprized. Sir, to heir 
any thing relating to this AfTilr charged upon me : What- 
ever B!iime there miy be in this Aflair, iioughtto be phcd 
10 the Account q\ thofe thnt were in Power, when I was, u 
they ca!l it. the Country Gentleman : Ii was by ihem thu 
Affiirwasfei on Foot and conduced, and I came in only n 
pay off ihofc public Securities, whi^h their MaDageowM 
h.'id brought CO :i great Difcount, and confcguently 10 redeoi 
our public Crrdit from that Rrproach, which they hid 
brought upon it. Thrfe Army-Debentures being at a grett 
Difcoui't, was a flrong Reafun, and tlie Reifon that pre* 
v..iled with the Pnr!i.tmcnt, to apply the Sinking Fund firft 
tJ tl'C p<y'"S '•'^ \\\o\t. DcbenturL'S, but they cnu'd Tiot Ipp'j 
the Sinking Fund to that Purpcfe, till it began to produce 
{omeiliip'g ronii-lerable, which was not till the Vear 1717. 
That tiii: Sirit;ing Fund was then lo receive a great Addi- 
rion, w.is a F.i£l publi<.ly known in the Year 1726; and if 
lome IVcp'c were quick-lighted enough to forefcc, that the 
r.iili:iin?nc would probably make this Ufe of it. andcunnl^ 
enough to iii:ike the molt of their own Forefighc, coaUl 
help It, or coulk! tl'.cy be blamed for doing for But [ dcfr 
my murt invcier.ite Enemy to prove, that I had any Hand l> 
i>rirg'ng t1:c(c Dibrnture^ ,to a Difcount, Or that I had uj 
Share in the- Profits made bybuyirg them up. 

• I'o co'-.clude. Sir, iho' I (hall always be proud of tbfl 
Honour tf any TruK or Confidence from his Majefly, yet I 
fhall ;i!w: ys be re:.dy to remove from his Councils and Pit- 
IVncc, wlK-n he thinks iit 1 fliould do fo; and therefore t 
fhculd ihiiik myfelf very little concerned in the Event of 
:he preCvnt QuelUon, if it were not for the locroachmcm 

that 




Encrotcbticrttt that wis ever made upoa the Prerogatives 

of the Crowo i and tbertfore, for the fake of my Mailer, 

■^vtthouc anj* Regard lo my own, 1 hope all thofe chaihare 

'Wk due Regard fjT our Coanitution. arid for (he Rights and 

frcrogatit'ci of the Crowit, wit^I>ut which our CoatlitutJoa 

tntioi be prelervrd, wiil t>e again:! thi* Motion.* 
The whj!e Debate continusd from rlcirn o'clock in the 
fccrnoon till put ibtee the ticxt Moniirg. before tvbich 
*Time above fiicty, fuppofed to be of the Minority, left the 
Yiottfc : So (bat on the Divifion, the Motion wu carried iq 
ic Negative, Ayei 106, Noci 290. 

[The i6tb. Agreed to the Report of [he BiU toexp'sln and 
irnd an Afl 3d King Jamei I. tor the Recovery of fm»ll 
ihn, and for the Relieving of poor Debtors in London. 
Ordered it to be eogrofied. 
Read n frll time tiie Mirtiny and Dcfert ion- Bill. 
Read a third time, and pafTej the Bill for liccRfing the Tm- 
Htaiion of \'ictu2l from Ireland, &c. into Scotland ia 
rime of Scarcity. Ordered it 10 the Lorda. 
The i7ih. Read a kcood ume the Mmioy and Dcfettion- 
1)1. 

Read a fecond time the Weamifl(leT-Brtdge-Bi!l. * 

Ag^Crd to the Repott orf Yclttrdiy's RetrHuhon Oa Ways 
Rd Means i vix Rrfolved, that the Duties on Sale, and a]. 
on Red and Wbtte Herringi [delivered out for Home 
>nfiJmprio», which by an A&. 3th King George II. Hvere 
conimoed to the 2;th of Mirch 1746, be tunber continued 
10 t^e Xjtbof iVtvrch IJH- Ordered lO a Bill accordingly . 

Then proceeded 10 ifie tnrther Hen ring of the Maiierof R«*d'ngKilec. 
(he Pet.tion of J.-hn. Dodd Elq; complaining of ^n undue *"'"^""^"*- 
Election and Return for the Borough of Reading m the 
County of Herlc!. And the Cminfet were cjlled in; and fc- 
verai Wirncfrei exitnineii in behalf of William Strode, E191 
Gtting Member! and having tintlbed ihnr Eviceoce. the 
^Counlcl on both iidrs were dtreded to withdraw. And a 
Hfoiian being m^ide ard the QiKilion pjt, that William 
^Krode, Efq: It duly ele£)ed a Burgcls to ferve in thrt prefent 
BF atliamcBI, or the Sotou^h of Reading in the County of 
VBerki; it pa Bed in ihc Negative, Ayr* 155, Noei 141. 
Rclolred, that John Dodd, Et'q; is July Ele^cd, &c. 

The i8ih Read a third Time and palFcd the Bill to ex- 
plain and imcnd an AA 3d King Jamct 1. fur ibe Rccovci- 
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Annot4,Gro. JTigof ftnall Debt*, and for the Relieving of poor Debten to 

II. 1740. London. Ordered it to the Lords. 
\,y^ir\J Read a firrt time, a Bill for granting and cootinaing the 
Dutiei upon Salt, and upon Red and White Herrings for a 
farther Term. 

Readafirll time a Bill to indemnify Proteftant Purchafert 
of Eflates of Papilla, againll the Penalties or Forfeitures Pa- 
pifts are liable to, for not having enrolled their Eftatei, io 
purfuanceof an A£t 3d King George I. 

In a grand Committee made fome Progrefs on the Bill to 
prevent Inconveniences arifing by Delays of Ciu&s aficr 
Iflue joined ; and 10 proceed on the Z4ih Inihot. 

The 19th. Rcsd a fecond Time the Bill for continuing 
the Duties upon Salt, and on Red and White Herrings for a 
• further Term. 

Read a lir(l time a Bill to exprain and amend To much of 
an Aft 6th King George I. fir bttttr pcuring tp-tmim Ptvuri 
and Privilt-^ti iutmJed to be g^ranttd iy bit Majtfiy^ bj /«■'• 
Cbartat for Affuranct rf Sbipi ami Mtrcbani'iKit mt Sta, *Mi 
fir linding Money upon Boltcmryt and fir refirainiHg ftvrr»l 1 
txtravflgant and umt-arrantablt Pra/futJ tbgrein mintiontd, a» 
reUtes to the extrav.igiat and Lowarrantable Practices there- 
in mentioned. ! 

In a grand Committee, went thro* the Bill to indenaify 
Ferlbns who have omittL-d to take the Oaths, &c. with fefc- 
ral Amendments. 
• Rt^ad a I'erond time jhe Bill for opening a Tnde to ■l' 

from Pcrfn through Ruflia. 

The :o:.i. .Agreed to the Report of the Oith-Billi or- 
dered 1: to te irgrojftd. 

In a gr.ind Ccmminee took into Confideration the feTCnl 
Peti:ian> prelenied to the Houfe on the Decay of the Wool* 
kn Mar.uUclures: and Mr. Webber was called in and CKi- 
mincd conLcrning his Scheme tor a univerfal Rrgillry of 
'Wool ; CO proceed on the zjth IniUni. 

The Z2J. Received FctiEions fram the Counties of Efo 
and G'cucclier, icpreieRtingcu the Honre, That fhookl tht 
Bill foropenii:<;d 'I':ade to and (rum Perlia through RuAa 
pafs inioa L^w, it u'ljj greatly dikourage the Maoufilftire 
ot Clcth in thii Kingdom i and therefore praying that thl 
Bill m.iy nut pais into a Law, unlets ProviGoa be mdt 
therein, tu oblgc the Trdders to Perfia throngh Ruffii vt 
export in Woolitrn Cloths to the amount of the Valoc of the 
Rau-Silk. and other the Perfian Commodities ihcf kU 
impcri from Rullia: Referred to the Committee of il» 
whole HouTs. 
Ordered, That Mr. Ncttleion, Mr. Dii^ ley, aad Mr. 

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Gnmotte, Raffia Merchants, du attend the fjiid Committee Annoi4,Geo 
utbe 26th Inltant. U ^74° 

Read a fecoDd time, a Bill for the Eijcouragement of Sea- V-^'VXi^ 
Bcm,iDdibr the better and tpccdier Mannii.g his Majdlly'i 
FkcL 

Rdbawd the adjourned Confidcration of the Report of 
Ae BiJI for ibe Recoveiy of Small Debts, r.nd ordered it to 
be ingroflied. 

The a^th. Read t third time, and psidA the Bill forin- 
demntfying Perfons who havcumittrdioq'inlit')' tlirmfclves 
£ir Offices and Employments within ilic (iiue limited by 
Law, and for allowing a fAnher time for that puipofe : Or- 
dered it to the Lords. 

Rnd a fecood time, a Bill to indemnify Proteflant Pur- 
cbafers of Ellates of Papills, Sec. 

la a Commiiice, went thro' the Bill to prevent fnconve- 
nieocies arlGng by DeUyi of Ciules after lITue joined, with 
fereral Amendment!. 

In a Committee on the Bill f>r punifhing Mutiny and ptbitc on rht 
Defertion, a DcDste arofe as lulli^ws : (jiurrcnng of 

Soldivrs. 

Sir William Yonge. 

Si a, 

■ Oae of the greatell PerfeAions the Laws cf any Coun- ,i;jr William 
Irycui be attended with, is, to l*efo plain, precife. and ex- Yonge. 
prdi in all their CUafei, as not to admit of nny Doubt, Un- 
cenainty or double Meaning. 'I'his is a Rule, which ought 
to be obfcrved, as far as is confident witii humnn Wcaknefs, 
i& the forming of every new i^w ; and in no lore of Laws 
if It more neceiT^ry, tiian in thoi'e that are made (or regulat- 
iagibc Behaviour of the Civil nnd Military Power towards 
Oae another; for nothing contributes more towards making 
the Army and the People live caiily together, than to have 
Aar refpedive Rights and Privileges fjily and clearly dc- 
Mtakined, fo asthatcveiy Soldier may kn-iw the oimofl he 
CiB expefU and that his Landlord, or any other Perfon he 
)w w do with, may know what is due to him. 

' Tbia beiag the Cafe, Sir, as you are now upon thae 
Kit for regulating the Army r.nd their Quarters, which 
Md yearly, in this Kingdom, and as a Doubt has arifen 
■pa* (one Claofei inlcrted in all former AAs of the fame 
■tuc, the Duty of my Office makes it incumbent on me 
Hacquaint you with that Doubi, iind to propofea Method 
Wabviating it for the future, in all former Mutiny-Bills, 
■ kil in all that have been of late Years pafTed into Laws, 
kku been cnaCbd, <* That the Officers and Soldier) qn»r- 
Mdu dircded b; tbc-AA, ffiall be recei?ed'by the OMnncri 
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Annoi4,Geo of the Inn», Mcl Other Houfes in which thcf are fo qlIa^ 
II. 1740 tcrcd; and (h&ll pay fuch reafonable Prices ai Ihall frcm 

^*y^y^\m^ Time to time be appointed by the Juilices of ihe Peace, 
who are thereby empowered to appoint fuch reafonable Rata 
for all ncceflary Provifions for Officers and Soldiers, for one 
or more Nights, in alt Places which they {hdll come to is 
their March, or which fliall be appointed for their ReGdence 
and Quiirtert." And by another CUufe io the Taid Bills it 
has been enabled, •* That the Officers, when thry receive 
the Pay of any Regiment, Troop, or Company, ftiail give 
public Notice thereof to all the Inns, and other Places where 
th( OfEcersand Soldiers are quartered, that they may bnog 
in their Accounts ; which Accounts the Officer or Officcrk 
receiving the Pay, are required toacccpt of, and immedi- 
ately pay the fame, before tiic Subfiltence or P^y Ihall bi 
dillributed, cither to Officers or Soldier.':, provided the faid 
Accounts exceed not the levcral Rates therein mentioRed 
and afcertaiiied." 

' From thefe Claufw, Sir, it has been, till very lately, 
thought, that the Ownen of Inns, and other Places where 
Soldiers are allowed to be quartered, were obliged to lumift 
the Soldiers with Diet and fmall Beer for themfilvo, awl 
with Hay and Straw for their Horle;!, if demanded j and 
the Owners of Inm and other fuch Place)! have, till bf Ute, 
generally done fo, without charging more fiir it in their 
Accounts, than the Paymallcr was by A£l of Pailiamcnl 
required and limited to pay: }Jut of la:c Years ;• d<fIeieol 
w.-iy of Thinking has begun to prevail ; and the Owners of 
]iins and other Places have begun to rcfulc to ftirniOi llic 
Soldiers with Diet or Sniall Beer for thcmlcives, or with Hay 
and Straw for their Horfej, at the Rates altoweii by the Go- 
vernment, pretending, that by the Wurds cf the Afl, the^ 
are not obliged to funiifh Soldiers with any of thefe NeccI* 
lariei, unlets they approve of the Prices nil o^e J by the Go- 
vcrnmentt or appointed by the Julticesof PL':.ce. 

* One of the firll Difputc:, Sir, of this kind happened 
but lafl Year at Wakefield, where the Price cf Hay hid, 
during the hard Frolt, liien to an excellive Height: Upoa 
this, the juilices of Peace in that Divifion took the Cife into 
ilieir L'oniider:.tion,andappcinted the Rate for Hay fora Hor:« 
to be Sd. per Diem. As this was id. per Diem above what 
Was ;>ttow*d by A&. of Parliament, the Dragoons fcmpKd 
paying it, and the Officers lent a Letter to me on the Subje&: 
J'^is Letter I laid before the Attorney-General, and after he 
had cooGdcred the Cafe, his Opinion was. that the Juftka 
of Peace had exceeded the Powers given them by A€l of 
Parliament i that they were to appoint the Rates of neceT- 

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^*iGoai for the Sonlicrt aod ttieirlioKet, but not Co Annnr^.flfro. 

mcnl tbc iMIawADLC given by ihc Govrrnmcni. nnd "• '74^- 

My limtud by the very Afl itrdf; andthmhc Oivn- l-^V^V^ 

' lofti, SDtJ uthfr Houtei where Soldiers i^ appoiotcd 

|w to br ijiuiieied, u-ere obliged to furnjUi ihetn with 

by Provifiuns tor themfclves ant) Horle;, at a loner 

|k»a what wai nllowed by Law, if ihc Judice^ Uiould 

U It to be fo, but ttiat neitlict tiicy oultJ re(]uirr, nor 

LAicei appoiat any higher Kail*; (o be paid ; and I mull 

I it moU reiroeible ii (hsuld be (o ; For a Soldier has at 

nm one ceruin^uDifurm Pay- fiom the Governmenti 

[■yniioftot rife and f4ll asorber People* \io^ according 

\ Price o* Provifion*, or the Demand for Workmco » 

ty ii alwtyi the fame, and the Allowioce appointRl 

tw 11 the bighc(\ that Pay will admit of: lie louU be 

rtol, ftud therefore, in Time) of Scarcity, yoa muS 

r ui^nieDt the P.iy of your Soldien. or you mull o- 

[thate. wbr/e tbty ve i]iur(cred( to lurnifh them wiili 

Etrr Proviiioas at thofe K-ttcft. wbich ibcir Pay wlQ 

■^miA uke notice. Sir, i hit. be rare fbii Difpaie 

^^L there hid been one of much lite fame nature u 

PP' There, the Ofncrsof Iniij, Alehoufes. aod ibt 

^ven rrfafcd the So'dicrt tbe Ufc of clitir Firctor U- 

lodrrft their ViduaU: I'hey would allow them at} 

Beer to diitilc, nor fo mucb a* Silt to their Pottage. 

'•" : >A a \Urch cnnnot carry t Ri'chen, a Sick of 

CiK L>( Sinail Beer upon Uii Ba'^k : rhey rauR 

hingi at the i'liices whrre they arc qjai-- 

ric they had a Right to infiit iipon Lairing 

J tike to have bred a 'i'umult betwixt the 

. nftncn. 'I'bii Cafe w&s laid before thtl 

General, now Lord Cl.ief Juilice Willcs, and 

.11. Thii the OM'ncn of il^c Iloufc^ where 

kwvn Mtrr ijturterrd, were oMiged to allow tbctn 

Small Beer at the Gwcrnmciit't Allowance, or 

pcT Rite, if ibe JuiUccs of Peace Ox>utd order 

^not tityfelf. Sir, preirn.'! ?o any great Knowledge 
r, oc to the An of pnnirig the proper Meaning 
Vordt of an ACL of ['..tli:iinent t bat upon ibele 
I think, I 'I'.r,.,. I c accufed of pafling i rail) 
if J (ly, ih:. hiM, by the Law* of thli 

a Riglil [o -..uii Diet and Snult Beer for 

I, and Hay ana Straw for their Horres, from the 
tri of the Innt or Houf» where they are quaneted j 

E Stole of the A£Li of I'^rliament 
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Anne 14, Geo. made for this Purpofe, feems as clemr as Words can make it- 
[U. 1740. However, there are many Lawyers, it reemi, clpeci>lly in 

V./^'Vr the Country, who think oihcrwiie; and the People, depend- 
ing upon their Opinion, have now, in many PJaccs, begnn 
to refufe Diet and Small Beer to the Soldiers quartered ia 
their Houfc!. I do not know but they may Toon begin 10 
jxfulie a Soldier a Bed. They have, I think, as ^od a 
Right to refufe ibe one as the other i for the Law fays oaly, 
ihey Oiall receive the Soldiers quartered upon them : It does 
not iay, they {hall fitrnilh them with Beds, no more than k 
fays, ihcy Ihall furnilh them with Diet .ind Sm^iU Beer. 
Till now it h:is alnaysbcen fuppoJed, that by receiving mw 
meant, to furnifh the Soldier with fuch a Bed at he couU 
lie on, and with necflT4ry Frovifions at fiich a Price at he 
roqld pay. B-.it a different Intfrpretaiion is now put apoa 
this Woid : an-J as the DoAors of the Law thus dttfa 
among themfe.veii, the Julhccf of the Prjcc do not know 
how to behave. Jf you tjo not put an Knd to the Difpot^ 
by adding a few explanatory Words to the Jj'w, which fat 
arc ROW to revive, a Liw Suit mult, rnJ is to be begun by 
Ititorination. for terminating tins Difpute. 

* Till-, Sir, will be atieitdcd uith u great Fjcpence to tfat 
Pubix. as will as to the Pcrfon^ tlial arc to be fucd, whicl^ 
I think, you ought to prevent, nuw ym hjve fo fuir an Op- 

, portunily. Gut what is much worfe tlian the Expence at- 

tending a Liw Suit, if, upon the Event of a Law Suit, il' 
Hiould b<- found, that the Owners of Uuulcs where Soldicn 
arc quAricrrd, arc not by Iaw obliged 10 funifh them with 
Diet ami 8in»ll Btcr at the Goveriimcm't AUowaDcr, « 
with any thing die bcfidtjs Houle-rocm, the Co-jntry Pe» 
f'e, who niituraliy do r^t mucii like So'tliers, will ukeall 
the Advantiigc they cnn of what ib di:c.aied to be Law, ui 
this may oceafion u geacrHl Mutiny in your Army ; for « 
(iic other hand, the Soldiers. .Men who have got Anas il 
their Hands and who hive been taught how to ule then, 
won't like to give up a Right, they think, they have a Jul 
'I'itle to, .ind a Rij^.''. which they have enjoyed fur at Iw 
thrceft. Ui; Vears without Interruption. 
« ■ For preventing thefc Dingers, Sir, I have drawn up I 

CLiufe, as I thought I was, by the Duty of my Ofice, «• 
hiigcd to do, which I fhall beg leave to lay before yo*> 
What I prcpofe is, that inllcad of the ufual Claafc fbro- 
bilging the Inn-kceperi and others to receive the Soldkrt 
nil'eud upon them, you fliou:d inlert a Claule at falkM: 
■' Provided nevertheJefs, and it is hereby enafied, thaiiki 
Ofiiceri and Soldiers fo quartered and biilettcd » af,H«£udi 
fliall be Fcceived, and furaifiii with Ditt ttad SmmH-Bsmt 



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the Ownen of the Inns, Livery -Scabies, Alehoufes. Vic- Annoi4,Gco. 
iliflg-Houfes, and other Houfes, in wbich they sre aU I'- 1740- 
■ai lobe quirtered and billeted by this A& ; paying and L/^VT\J 
iHHilf /ir tbt fumi tht fevtrai Rates htrein a/Ur men- 
wti, A Af p^abli Qui of tl/eSul>fiSt.nci-MMej for Diet and 

Sik. 

■ It is >n unfortunate State we are fallen into, that every ^^^ San^n. 
Boa of Parliamtnt mult l>e attended with new Laws, or Eil^ 

m CUufes 10 old L»ws, for oppreOing the induflriout Sub- 
S, lad endangering the Liberties of ibe Country. It is im- 
Ale to levy high Duties upon the Neceflaries or Conve- 
ned ftf Life, it is impoflible to keep up numerous Slanding- 
min, without fuch I^ws or fuch Claufes ; and yet we 
ifc, fat twenQr Ycari, been contriving how to continue and 
CRifcboih. The high Duties we groan under, were in- 
Bdwed for fopporiing a heavy and expcnlive but nectiTi- 
' War; boi how the keeping up ofa numerouii Standing- 
imf h) Time of Peace, was iotroduced, I can no other way 
nwM for, than by luppofing, that it was neced'-try for fup- 
irtjof unpopolar, deftruftive Meafures, and a hated Mini- 
ir. i am furpri2ed to hear the forcible Quartering of Sol- 
Icn npon public or private Houfes infilled on, as if it were 
MceCiry Mean for ihe Support of our Government. Sir, 
we woe to attend UriAly to our Conllitution, even as it 
ndiac prefent, we ought, in no Mutiny-Bill, to admit of 

■ Qoartrrtng of Soldiers, even on Pub'ic Houfes, except 
iraficw Nights, in their March from one Garrifonto ano' 
ier, or for the Aril Night after they arrive at the Place de> 
|PHd for their Refidence. Tho' we now keep up, tbo' we 
«ve loag kept up a great Number of Standing- Forces in 
naeof Pace, yet, properly fpcaking, they are no more 
km is fofrnfed to be necefTiry for Guards and Garrifons \ 
■1 accordingly the Refolution annually agreed to in this 
Harfe u, *• That the Number of efleftive Men to be pro- 
lihd for Guards and Garrifons in Great Britain, for the en- 
i^ Year, Qiall be fuch a Number as is then thought necef- 
ftty." Before the Revolution we had Guards at^ Garrifons, 
tta in Tine of Peace ; but before the Revolution, nor for 
&M Years after, we had 00 Quartering of Soldiers, either 

ri public or private Houfes, in Time of Peace, wiihont 
MBfent of the Owner. On the contrary, by an exprefs 
Inr. tbc latter End of King Charles lid's Reiga. it was 
■rfied, *• That no Officer, mitiury or civil, or other 
Vrfba* flail quarter or billet any Soldier upon any Inhabi- 
. laAE 




Anno 14. Geo 
n 1740. 



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tant of thU Rralm, wiihout hii Cofifcnt;" ythkh \mv Icol 
in force till near die End cfthe Year 1693, wbtn tfae itA 
Liw wat mtdc forquancring SoUljcra in Putilic-HDolcf- 

' Before thxt Ynr, Sir, our Guardi and Girriron;. br 
which, I mem «U the SjUliets we had gn Foot, c 
their marching from one Place co aoochrr, were obli^ 
quarter cheielvct at other TriTrllen do, ioHoulei ttut were 
MriUing to receit-e tbem ; and when thc^ came to any Oani* 
{oa or Place were they were to lefidc, cii'rry Ofikcr tti 
Soldier provided Quarters for himfelfj In which. I br'"-*-'-. 
there Wit no Inconvenience found ; for when Soldten I 
civtil)', ami are agreeable [o (he People, there will ilwn . . »; 
Koufes enough, either public or private, that wiil be gUd id 
receive them for what they are able to pay, onlels ihcr- ''-: 
greater Number of them than the Place can convcr> 
accooimodate. From the Revoluiion to the Vemr 1692, wi 
had a fort of Civij War amorgtl oorfclves, for Irelaitd un 
not entirely reilac'd till thcEnd ofche Yeargi ; attdaabuw 
mrma fltni l--%tt, perhaps, during ibsi 'J'inie. fone Libenm 
were taken with itic Law*, in refpcA to Quartering or Bi^ 
leiing c( SoldicTi. But in the Year 92, the domcttic Trtt>- 
quiliiyofihe three Kingdoms being ic ellabti(h'd, il^t ' 
liament began ro think of rcitonng thcl^wi 10 ihca 
tine Force. H<)wevrr, as we were then ccgiged id s dAD- 
gcrous for>:ign War. >t>d upon that Account obliged to fceqt 
agtcacer Number of Troops thin ufoal ; and as our Tcoopa 
were often obliged to march in great Bodies, either from one 
Place of the Kingdom to another, at Danger ifarea:: 
through the Kingdom in their H-ay to Flaniderf. the t _. ._ 
ment law it woold be necrlT'iry to provide Quarters for then 
upon their March, in a dtfTercai Manocr from what had b«> 
fore been allowed by Law; and therefore m the Mutia]- 
Bill for the enfaing Year, ivhich then httl begin to be rt' 
titled. A Bill for ponilhing Officers and Soldiers ubo Qofl 
fouilny or dcfcrt tneir Majellies Service, atid for eunili 
faifc Muders, and for the Payment of Quarters, the On 
for quiriering SolHiera in Public-Hourci, without C( 
of the Owner, nii introduced, and ha» ever finer n 
in all the Mutiny-Bills p30cd, to thia very Day; lor a 
voorite Pon-er once granred to the Crown, i» feldom ! 
cd by the Subjcd. without iome remarkable Revolotloftii 
our GovenmetiL 

■ But by thu Claufe, as the AA then Itood, 1: vrsi DOI 1^ 
trndcd. that Soldier! ihould be quiitet'd or billrtrd nlki 
Placet appointed for :'<cir Refidcnce, even iDdecd apon Pw^ 
lic-Houlc%, without the Confcot of the Owner. Al \gA % 
wai DOC totcndcd, tfccy Ihoold be fo quartcr'd for uy IcwfB 

thaa 



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firft Night «/terihcir ArnvW. Thit this w as th« 
flt the Ad. is, 1 thiok, pUin, from the rcxc CUufe 
whtrebj'it iieiiadcd, " 1'hat OfEccfj and SoU 
;cd^ » dirt^fld by the preceding Claufe, dull 
i^un^Ue pDCn IS fliall btr appointed by the juf- 
:c in their Quarter Sc^iuos; and the Jollices 
required to ict Ratri lur Proviftofis, lot ooe 
Nigliu in ihrir Marching, and the hrit Ntgbtonljr 
:• «{>pumicd lor tbcir kclidence. 
Id. 1 think. Sir, plainly fhrw*, that, in Pbcc; ;ip. 
lar the KctiJcoLc ol ^oldirtt fur any rimr, neifhtr 
nor SoMier was to be quaiKr'd for more iii»B the 
^vgbt. upon £Ry Uuulc, publK or pnvKrjsnd the 
It cviilcnt. brcjule, being then Ictilrd, if they could 
lagTCy *ith their Uindlords, where they were hid iodg'tl, 
itiooance, iliry might ncxi Day look out for, and 
Lfidgingt Or Quancis Tor themtclns. It way 
totendcd to give any Soldier, and much left an Of- 
tightto lodge in ifie belt Uoom clan Ion or Alchoule, 
paying my Thing ibr ii. and thai, peihapj, far a 
lor fai letcral V'cart tsgethcr. Even when tlicy were 
>Mvcb, or Tor ibe hrtt Nigbt after cixir Arhira] «c 
■|je 3?itjir;fd for thtir RcQdencc. they Were not to 
: abloluiely itct ; bccauiJe the Tullicrs 
.- ..-\c m Kcgaid io tbe Expcnce and '1 rouble 
[ioj them, whet> they feitled the Rate* they were to 
"' - "oni. I'he tnoJern Pra^icc of gtrtag every 
icra free Lodging in the Hotilc where he is 
>ii[iA«r he fpcnds any of bii Money there or so, 
the Place where he is appomied ip telidc, as 
hs u upon • Matcti, would then ha\e beea re> 
great Contempt, if tt had been proposed; for ic 
Uyiiig a lax upon the SubjeA, without the Conlenc 
bCM, at k«ll without any ijeh Cunfetit cbninrd in 
^ nd acCQniing (o itie ulual Mechodiof 

.icac, when the Sjbjccli, or ^ny Pan of 
. u* to be iMucd with a new T^r. Cut, a Foondatian 
^Mg tkiu JaiH lor fib'ij;inrr our PubliC-Houfes lo give frcA 
Wgwrgtc ArNigiiu in their March, tod 

fclit b'li -^ ., rrival at tt.e Place where ibey 

Mk t^puiDWu 10 reluie, a Pretcocc was Irtim tbencv takca 
)i«6A, i4itSotdicnwereaIwayi tobei Load apon oar Pub* 
ic'Houica. aid to be entitled to have alMayt a free Lcdgtng 
itkaPlacea appointed fqr iheir Kriidence. Prriiapt 
of thii tint Law were left a little dou&i&l, oa 
[to draw tlul Infcicncc ftom them i bat thii wu dot 
, Vll. $ enough 



1 



Anno /4, Geo 
II. 1740. 






tnn<t-4,QrO; «B«lgh i for. in ofdfr to give SoMim i> 
ft- t'y\^- thu trni I>odging for ever, tfcc Wdh1» i 

terwnrdk ilterM, and ilic jullicc* were rcquiiwi CQ lo and 
appoint fucli renfoDftble R«l« (or all wrcetliry iVrvifl^i 
Ibr foch OfficcTt and SoUicrs. lot c^c or tncrr 

Clic (event P^es which (hey Quit come to in tu-.'-. 

or «pti»cb ftwU be appointed for their Rclu^c« ftnd QgU' 
Un. 

* Thds. Sir, you Cer what an encroaching ibiwg an Army 
H. and I wifh it did not encroach upon u» ift any mo*r *" 
ecroui Reipcil. Thti of free-Lodgirg for Sotdicn > 
BecDtne a continual and tf.lltd tix opon the Pub1ir-( 
iu all Ptarts where Sohiiers are uluslly Appf^iotcd to 
£vefyfiKh Houfc Jim gercrally oreSg'tlicr at (eal! <im(Wia 
upon it ; and it the L:indlord dcxt not give hu Ciuefi lochl 
Lodging at pkalct him, he ii> >'<i (och a Sum Wtl» 

Jy athcflwU dctnand./orliii : ^ iiiaiielf with a Lod^ 

iBg. Heie tD WVWmiufler it a by Lu'^om trtilcd it 9^. 1 
Week, that, it 395. p^r Jnnum, \ot * commf^" Stt'dipr i »•* 
confrqurotiy (lie Oncers, if they fhou!d 1: . aight 

farety dcmaod 1 great deal more. U r.ai > iJXtH 

Ue SufcjeA f h it not inctcaring the Pay ol ^, 

k'ithout any proper Irgil Aochority for cither i ■ i. 

&ir, Ift the mote grievous, brnufa of iti being raUnt affS 
Part of the People only : atitt it is the more dangeiOM, fa» 
canTe 1 MinilUr niay rdtfe it in what Plwei, >IM w «to 
f roporuom ho plc:dleit. and conrei[oeniiy nay naka k * 
Handle tor oppitfliag thofe CoaniKi, Ciliet, and Boravftak 
tbu do not feed hint up fuch Membcri to ibn Ho«fie, • 
br Aull pJc-ile 10 dirc^. But thU Handle ii nn;, u inaiH 
(olEocni, ibercforc fome new Strength moll !— -"-••1 
it ; sad lor tbit, ■ Pretence ii ukea Iron loin a 

our laic MuliDy-AA', which, 1 think, can adir.i: 'r 
Mtanifig. I he Inn keeper, or Viiliitllef. mi:i'- ' 
fttJ.furniDi ihe Soldiers ijuariei'd upon him.ooc ooly «iii 
Lodging, but ftlfo with Boaid, both accordtn]; lo tbc Ltkwg 
odbc Soldier, Biul yet be U to have no more fi>r both thul 
CirO'Ua Day In 'lime! ol Hlenty, the Soldier will t«nitlk 
htuilcH', ' ctn, ptrhflpi, doit at :d. 3 Diy.bccii 

'iiineitj! , he will oblige hn [jndlosd ta 6mdl 

him, bccju<c M •'-ncot do it pethip« uader Sd a Oiy. W 
tiii5 jail. Sir :■ U n rquit;!)to f li it pofltbic to fsfpofc ^M 
»a A& of PjrliaQi- : i?lUb1ifli Uich Irapofttiaaf 

■ 1 «lo not l:nai. .in I miKh regard. ivJnt Ojivr 

no ite Lavryeri may bive givcD ; beeaale tbey (caoallf 

^e ihcii Opinion iccotsluig u the Cate is ttiied ro thra i 

c 



( r3i ) 

lAerefbre, when the Cafe is £»\My ftite^, their Opinions Annoi4«Gco 

~fae wrong This leems to be the Cafe at prcrent. The It it40> 
<^itiuu is, not, what an Jnn-keeper or Victualler maj de- 
■nadfifbctloe&mrDifli the Soldier, quirter'd upon hint, with 
PiOffifisDi ; for ir ii plain he cannot recover more than a 
Grate a Dmjr i becanfe the Pay maAer can ilop no more of a 
Srilier*! PdjF on that Account; and how the Vi^lualler cm 
■ktrwife recover it, I believe, no Lawyer, or even a Con< 
jmreui teil. The onljr Qjeflion tbeiefore ii, whether an 
JMl-kcepcr or ViAiulIer be obliged to furnifli the Soidiera 
yinaiLJ upon them with Proviiiont ; and thii, I think, ad- 
■ica of ai little Doubt as the other. He ceruinly is not 
flUiBBd to do fo, by any exprefs Words in the MuLiny-Bill 
fifta UUl Year. By a Ciaufe in chat Bill, as well as many 
tamer, the Inn-keeprr is obliged to receive the Soldiers 
^uner'd apoB hltn : He malt let them into hit Houfe; He 

~ not ftiat fail Doori againd them: But this is all he is 
~ to do by that Law: Even his furniftitng them with 
iafajr that Law left, as it ihould be, depending upon his 
■QmuttSy t and hiiheno it has produced no Di!pu:e, nor have 
ttvSoUicri been left onfccommodated.excep*. in a few very 
Wt H aotJinary Cafei, which can aftbrd no Foundation for any 
^Iwiaiiua in the Law. 

* Both cbe Inllancei th!it have been oicntiou'd^ are of 
AiiKiad. The Difputeof Wakefield I am far f'um being 
fc^riied at; I am farpriied. Sir, there were mn fuch Di(- 
pKs Uft Winter all over the whole Kingdom. It was cruel 
akcbtige Inn-keepers to furnilh Hay and Straw to the SoU 
fim Horfe. at the Rate of 6d. per diem, when Hay and 
Aoawborefucb monllfous Prices; my when their own 
ttufe were perhaps dyihg for Want. The JuOices were in 
thm right to allow 8d. Can it be fiid. that a 1'rooprr or 
Dingoon coutd not afford Sd. for his Horfe at a Time when 
iWre was fuch a Scarcity of all Sorts of Fodd'ir : Wiiy may 
■M ■ Trooper or Dragoon live apon 4d. as well as a Foot 
toUierr Suppofe he allow'd 8d. f^r liis Horfe, he had ^d. 
»'J>ay for himfeTi and with that, or with the worle Fare 

kiafelf. he fliould have been content; cIprciRlly as he 
ibe Scarcity of Fodder could not be of a very long Con- 



*'7'hc Aflair at Ledbury too, Sir, was a Cafe of a very ez- 
'tnary Nature. The People there did not like atthat 
to have any Soldiers among them, or at lenlt nnrfij 
of them; becaufethey thought ibrmfelves o^pnflld, 
ihiitthe Soldiers were fent there, to prevent their 
tiwirown Way far freeing themielvet fr.im that O,-) 
I do not lay it wax wrong to fend Sooiiers there 
S 2 




C t32 ) 

Arii>OT4,Gcoor to fend fath a Number of them ; b^caufe vfbetbtr tlicPpo* 
' ^^^''40 f^lc iverc ojipcfUcd or no, they had tikrni very MToa{ Me- 
I Vi^lr^^ thod to ftec themlclves from that Opprcinon. Tbcir kti 
chofcn a riutoiu and tumultuoui Way of doing it » aitd 1 
Oentleman in (I r Neighbourhood, whohadsflcd ihr > 
m bold aod worthy Magjflraic. had roi only been rni'i' : _ .; 
the Mob. but ihas in dAngcr of being inurderM t>y tktm. 
1 he People in that Neighbourhood hid behaved in ^ m'-i) 
rio[OOt and obl^inate Manner upon that Occafion ; hu: 
the Obninacy of the People in a paiitcuhr Corner. ;tnu ^f—. 
a particat» Oecalion. i^ not to be pleKle^ u a Realoo IV 
^prci{ing the whole Kingdom. 

• 'i'hc few Dirpuirs chat have bappcn'd. Sir, ia fuch a loif 
Coml'e of y<»r», between the Soidtcri and the People «b«t 
they at£ quartet'd io a inuc)i llronger Reafon fui 1 iinriaian 
the hiVf as it it. The Harmony between the Soldkis and tl* 
People may hithcno be fiid to have been genrml : Saite 
not let us depend. Sir, upon the Continiunce of (hit Uw* 
tnony. if we Oiould brgin to keep up a gicaier tivmhutf 
Troopi, or erco if we fliouM continue ro keep op the ftax 
Number for many Ye:trs lo contc. The People MuAaL 
wayi rutter many Hirdfhipv by the Quarteiing of SeW^rit 
and ihefe Harufhip:f muit incrrave or diminifh in Proposiw 
as WT incTCife or diminilh ourStanding-Anny. 'I'Im Pto 
pie have for maDy Vcart cxpe^ed a DiminuiiDr of nar Ar* 
mv, and confequenily a Diminution nl the Haniftiipsilay 
niffer frcm theocc. They baveerery Vcar hopod tt mmU 
be the la;t, snd that the ncvt Year will put an End tflwA 
cf the Kardihips they fuScred on Account of nut Axwif, 
Honevrr ftiarp fighred our MiniDert and Parltai]»cBt-Ua 
bavr been, In feci:rtiig thofe Dingent which have aJI aloi| 
been prrtcoded ai a Rrallia for keeping up fuch a nmuii«< 
Standing Army, ihePeoplecouW perceive rwrveof ihfr- '^~ 
£ers, or tt leollthcy l.ppofcd, that luch tranecdous Vc. 
Wbuld na« regularly prtfetit thrmfclvcs lo View cvrry mi* 
cecding Wiaicr, and thit conjirmeil them in their aaari 
Hopd that DCxt Scflion of Parhamrni wou'd redact ikt A^ 
my, and that our Regular Troopi *om\-\ at iJlt taoM mJIt 
CO be what ibcy every Year arr Cup poled to be by ?uti 
men.', nothing but Cuirdi and G»rifoD». whKb wo»4 '^ 
courrelrfe all thofe whodonoi live io the ^ulliculoftG•^ 
iifon, or the SudAudc of a Lourt, ftotn the Ui.;ci<a o( qll■^ 
ttrinccf SiJdien. 

• hut. Sir, the People hare been fo long di&ppeh^rH ^ 
rhefe Hjipe^tiont, tiLit it is to be fearMJ, they will lov 
de-'pera!r. They will dcfpir of ever teeinf ihcnEr > 
lined £iotu (lie Ktrdlhlp;. tiiey groan qadcr, vUb irffcA n 




( »33 ) 

The Safpcion will become grncni, thicfoc^ a Anne 14. Gee. 

Ataxy it ro; kept up co pro(C£tuj agiintl foicign ^^ I7V> 

«r b«au(e it i» nccclTiiy lur the jud hnd» ol Go- V/YN^ 

hut Ixoafe It it ncceffiry for lupporimg and <n- 

-tk or Qpprrfiive Me*furci of »a Adraoillrt- 

■ . Cifii, every Coraerof the Kingdom will be- 

ibury. The Soldien wiU bccooia cvcty where 

Ibe People, and tfae People will became dcrpicabte 

IfK* ol the Soidieis. There will then be no Courta- 

iHartnAny between ihr Soldiers ard ihe Perrons upon 

\ttej arc qiunercd. The btter will furnifh nothing 

unwelcome Guelh. but what ihey are in the utmolt 

of Liw obliged to furni&i i uid every Soldier will 

the antioil Rtgotir whaKvcr he iliink^ himielf 

Law, '1 nii will of courfe occaAon m^njr 

,lhe People and the Soldiers, and itiAy at laA 

lioa t which will proci.ibl^ end in a lotll 

'ibc Array, or is tbc EiUbliibmcnt of a viUituy 

rni. 

Tonrequencc, J tsf. Sir, ii to beapprehenJeJcvai 

irmy you hare dow on Foor. and from the Law* 

[now in Force, wjth rrgud ta the Qturenng of 

'tut it' bjr new L.jWs you invrea'e the Demandi of 

rapoo his Cjuarteri. and ac the iame lime obli^ 

la opoo whom Kc ii Qd)rierc<i to anlwcr thole lie- 

« AppriMCh ofihi* tiita] Coflici|uence will be ac- 

; 1 fay, ijir, if by nny new Law you mcreale the 

lof tte Soldier; For whaterrrGrntlenieTinviy rbinfe, 

rr'i OemaDdi upon hii (^arieri wjji be ver>' much 

by what i> now propoTed. At preient he doei not 

^ *' ' '■■■■ I^nJIord n obliged toldrntlb htm w.th J>in 

I : at the Kate ot a Groat a S>if, the Soldier 

mil ujTOQ much better Provtlionf, and perhapi a grcatfr 

too, than what be nrm' chearfujly accrpti of. The 

i9et>cc rf this Wiii be, ihat a grot m*tiy of 

and other Poblic Houfc) will give over 

betake thcmrrlvei to fame iiher way of 

[*b:i w U tniireare the Uanien upon thn.e tli*- con- 

BuGocU. whicfi Milll fiKtn mske many ot ibcto 

!£une Cnnrlr: lo thai at h& you msy not have, in 

sen, : Number of Public Hotifei, fjr r» 

It rauponiheir March i and uic Cot* 

>, itMt iney iiuul either lie !» the Fields, or 

prt'-atc Houict. The former they would 

11 tbe l«tier ldri#>; to ihink«f, ant) thcrcfott { 

itlaai'e proptrfcd ' 



Sty 




AriR6 1 4. Cro 



Sir Williim 
Yons«. 



f »94 } 

SirWniiim Vonje. 

* Wben lopenrdthis Adirto yoo, and pve my Retdmu 
for the Clauff, I took the Libcny to cfter. I told yoa. tW 
the Cat'c had been UKly rendered doubtfut, by lomc Pooptii 
Tt-fiifingto furnil^i the Si!»ldieri, quarlercJ upon them, Mi 
Diet tnd Small Beer, or, todrrd, with any Thing etfie; aii 
(fast upon ihii a Lawfuit was inictuJrd to becou)inrnc«;^,iB 
«rder to have thU Queflian drierininfd. If thcic Lail farti 
Xtiy nprels Words in the Law for obliging Inn-krrpen ai4 
eihers 10 furnifli the SoTdt<r>, qjsrierrJ upoa tbera. with 
pietand Small Ueer^ai the Raie of ■ Groit a Dax.nofaefc 
•DoDbf could ever have arilen, no Man would have ! 
mad » tohive rrfi]f(d !!, when thccxpreli Wordt n( • 
appeared agiinu him, nor would tnerc hav ' 
Qty to have troublcii you with a new Ctai:!:. 
(um. But win <he Honourable GeBiIemnn liy, u- 
Ihmg ii trertomprehentted within ihe Meanrflf •*■- 
■tion cf * Law, tho" not declared in exprefi Wi- 
the very Oie now belore us; The Qoilhon th;: 
ij noc upon the rxprcl* Wordi, but upon the " 
Inieniionof the Law; and if there wiicveran\ 
creittd or cDablilheH by Inference front the Mnniag tmi 
Intenrion of a Liw, I think, there is, froin the Meaning t0 
Inteationof thii Liw. a pbmObltg&tionUid upt^n Irtn-le<4| 
tn and others, to turnilh the SoMiers «]uit[erod iip*n tloa, 
with I convenieni Lodging, at leaf) with as commriilM 
Ijo'tgTTtg ai they can aftbrd, iihI with neoefTtry PronkflA. 
that i> to fiy, Diet and Smill-Bccr, lU fuch a Kate u fluU bs 
sppointed by the Jaftirvf, notexrmDing a Gioata I^y. * 
■ Thii.Sift is my Opinion, and in thii Opinio* Im 
fipportcd, not only by the Optnioe of frrcnl eaiiner: ' : 
"yers, hut alfo by u plain Inferences «« were ever i 
World drawn from any I aw. Tint, I ihinV,, wtll ;-- 
rvidcnt. if we will bat (eitou[Iy confidcrthc two Cb'j r . <■ 
ibe lail Mutiny AA, which rcbie to this QurtllaD 
ftrft ray<t, *• That So1dtfr«(]uantrrdiia(orrfo(H, 0>- 
L-eircd by the Owners of Inns, and other I ' 
they are allowed lo be qturiered bjrthat A. 
(uch reafonabic Pricei »i Dull he xppDinic.1 ho*tt 
Tnne by the Jaflic«:'* And ihco by the Urn* CI*-. 
Jufltcei are empowered and reqnired to tti and a;-' 
lonable Hitvt tor all ncceflary Provifiasi far lurh ^-< 
• Now. Sir. if the I^wdid not intend to oblige the Ino-kcap- 
er lo huDiQ; the Soldien with MCxSuy Provifioet, (iarwkai 
£ad waa tbe Jufiice obliged to interfere ? If Utc Un kcqKr 

■ta 




Da 



( '55 ) 

10 riimQ) the Sokicr v/'iih ntetiLtry Provifioni, Anno i4,Gc 
ccifaini/ 3gre«. aniefi the Soldier on hii Pxrl 1'- i''^- 
y hon fuch Pncci at be infiUrd on; and^iftliey L/''^'^0 
tagnbcr, what liad the Jullicc to do in rhe ASiir. 
IbMoid the I^w ubiige him to inttrpofe f Nii^. his 
Btion woald Tignily nothing : for if the Ion kteptt 
» tftke leCi than ihe R»tc sppotnttd by the Jui1ic», 
aid en pnveot huinkmg kdi and, if the SotdJer 
to jmy more, ihev could not prevent \hii piying it. 
ftcm the Liw'i requiring the Juft'co lo inter- 
« It ti cviJcat. th^i u mean: to oblige (be Inn- 
rumifit the boUieri qitanered upon hrm with 
'rovifioiH I beciu(e. oihcrWire, the gieatcA Part 
would be mafi impertinent and ufelcft. 
Claxtfe. Sir, which rcbies to ihis Quctlion.tl 
■lendrd for I'ecuting the Inn-kcepcr'» Pay- 
I mud observe, ihat one of the chief De- 
Law. at ikfftun from the very Title, is to pro> 
if for paying the Quarten of the Army : and 
idc t By enifling, '* That the Paymafler, 
ttie Suld'cr^Pay, ftiall give Notice to sll 
^pCTf and othert to bring in their Arroiinrt ; andlhat 
pt c^, ted immediately pay thofe Accounu, b§~ 
: of the Subfillancc br dtliributed lo the Sotdien > 
Provifo, that I'uch Accounts ftiall not exceed ^i 
ra Foot So'dier't Diet and Stnall-Becr. C^n 
that a Ijiwch;rfiy inieitded fur fccufingihe Pjy- 
Artny'j Qunrtcri, would have had fuch a Pr»> 
d in^tnded, either that the Inr-keeprr a>oalil| 
y to charge more, or uat the Juflicei fl)(Kitd 
to appoint a higher Rntefor that Aiticie. 7 a 
,1 thinlc, (uppofing the law niaicenio have been 
ygrait Ahlurility. T ' ^i^'iry in. in mf 
widtni, 'Ihry i\.. :cttd iheutmoA 

U allow fr.t Tl'wt and S«ii!l Urer ; and they re- 
dic Itin-ieerpcr and Ifilf'ce froiti exceeding tba< 
'r*.« Inn kctfter thuH take cart to provide 

and Soiall-Bfer (or - 1, ai may bcaffbfdcil 

Ci and ibit the Soiuier mult be filjificd whilf 
n psy for no better. ' 

ir, aitothe (jueition'i being withoot any DoubTi 
ti the HonoorJble Gctitleman that fpoke hiftj 
. Iw and 1 diSer very wsilrly to oar Opinion He 

Kihc Nrg^tive Side of the C^ueRion that t« ccnata 
any I>du1v, and 1 think, it ii the ARirmative. 
t by a plain Inference Ifotr, tho* not by any ex* 
^w4j m cte Liw. ihc iDB-kcfper i* certainly obli- 





( >36 ) 

JlBflOti-Gec gfi' «o *urn (h ihcS'Uin (jusrletd upon h'm wi'h DwT r 

11 1743- :>mjtl B-rr, at 3 ^ruat i lij/i and ;.e thinks lri<ii, nmhef 
\y>^^'\J from ibe Word), nor 'ir MwHiny 0' ihc Liw. ihc Inii.kavp- 
eTi.iT. hz r'jji^-rd 10 fLiinfli the So dier wi:o Diet mwlS-nilV 
tecr, at clui ot iiiiy dtiu-r Prne, but itinc if lit duei . 
hinii he cin rrcovci no n-.ore th m a Cn>ai b Dav. 
D&l tberefurc Uy it it a Doubt, brc^ur thst Word iWmt M 
QJF^nd, but it it A DiiTcrence in Opintun. :hjt iDitlici lAt 
C'kuIc I hive oflcrol nrci ffiiy f and jis we li«ve now ibt 
OpporiLniiy be!, rc us, 1 think we ought to dmrnitnc riMl 
D-ffcrcnce, and prevent the Lxp^.ace ol 1 taw |uit, both II 
tl.« Ful'lic and to th« piivaie Pviloni ibni may be cc — rr- 
•d, A« wc arc DOW apprifcd of thii Diticrmcc iu Q, 
about the Mes.iing of ibmc of rne Claofe* in ibc jomu 
1 iitii.k, It wou,d be I Ncg!eft ui Duty in lu to rev- 
Law, wiiticut determining that Difticrcncc i for. I «tn iiut* 
we ought not, knowingl/< ^° make a Law tb*t tnuS crenc* 
LaW'liui : iitid there is nothing more apt to occ^iion Dtffdi 
snd even Bruili lietween the Suldiers and itic People dbh 
whom they are quirccred, than their difieriog ia Op|UPl 
about tbeir rcfpeitive Righti. 

* I am Id well conviat:iKl,Sir, of the Inccnvcntermiiri 
Datigertihat m»y cnlue from leaving itiis Dilkicnce in Op»- 
BtOD fubfiU-ng. th»( i thouhi rather cbufc to have it cxptti^ 
declnrcd, that Inn-keepci) Quit no; be obliged i^ farttinite 
Soldiers quditered upon ibcm with Diet and Small-Bceft 
than to h'Vtf it reotaio in the Uncertainty it U at (ircfiMC 
Sdl if I'ou fhould deteiffliae the Qoellion in thii Wajr, I an 
periotded no Inn-keepcr. Vl^tualer, or other prtion. nr«a 
whom Suldiertareulu.-Jly quartered, would funtifh lh< 
ProvifioDs at the Racci wtitch tftey are able to pay. 1 <- 
appointing a cettiun Rntc far ?rovifions would in ibu Cak 
fignify nothing i brcaukc tf the Inn-kccper did cot like iha 
Jtaie appointed by the Jullicrs. he would furnilh 00 Piv«> 
fioM : rbc Soliiicr mull provide for himfrlfi aod tak 
Bli^bt be rendered impoffible by a Combination aipoag tte 
Tra(K<men and InhAbmntt of a Country Tdwb i wbkk 
ComMn:itioD would, very probably, be entered tato mifl 
Country Towni and even in Cities, that do not 
fcave any SoldierB among them There ii, thereforr, 1 
a NccefFiiy for obliging Tome Sort of Pruptc or ocbcr loiU- 
aifh the Soidieri with nccefT^iy rruvihoni ; aad ooMCait 
fo proper to be Uid under thii' ObligiiiMU Pcrftuifc tipOft 
whom they tic qunrter'd. 

I*beD. hir^ wiib regtrd (o what the Soldier ii M pay lor 
Diet and SmaU-Beer, you may fettle it at what yoo Will, «r 
B« iettle at ail U you pluic » bat 1 am very fiiic, a SokJatf 





( ^37 ) 

■ Groil a Day for D'ltt »nd Small. S«r. Anno 
.e MoDry ntiuilly piid lum by the G> 
tftrvMut. nrvtr, at bat rtty leldiini, rvcedithnt Sum : A 
cnaaw" So! JKr Int. inJec^, Six-pence a Day al^uw'ti irim ) 
ion made fur Claithing, foi Stockings, 
utlirr Ifitidcnti, reduce hit ?4y to ^ery 
re s Uro3( a Diy for hi* Subfiilancc. Thii. thert<: 
iric :,jji.i:H he CAB gift lor Di<( and Sm^J Rrrr I 
-t tany altvayi provnlr I'ors Angle Min, 
.at acbm[MT Rvtt; than fuch iingle Man 
w for hunfeif, I am convinced, there ii not. at pte- 
In EngUtid, where a flutifr-kerper may nor 
jer, lodgrd in hit Ho<i''r, with Di't tod Small- 
tthin* Groat ■ Day. In Time* of Scirciiy, '(ii 
ra4ybc difficult K^farnifh bin with Dtct aniiSinall> 
r» St » Croat a Day ; liul, 4t Hich Time*, r) e Soldier 
|i^ tftlce up with worfe J-'ari.*; and, zi they very ieldom 
, nocubr ma'Jc a Foiir<Jaiion for any eluhhfli- 
A Famine may, irdeetj, anlie irt the Laod i 
k^j.cii) of ProTifions cfnll Kiniti may linpp«r>, Rtto 
tmpofTtb r for n So'dirr lo tubfiil upon a Gr''>aia 
.4Ry fuch Calamity (houid happen in (he Cnun- 
j'd contitiK for nay Time, it would be alilclatr- 
■ invcrnmeni, to make a trm^Kirary Ad- 
|c I'ay i (ot it i»nw to b« cxp-ftrd. that 

Wdd, *jth Arm* m their HanJ^ will all j* ihfm- 
(larve. You mufl enable them [o par<-h:irc i Sjb* 
if you do not. ihey will tike it by Force. You 
ihem by Law J if yoa donot. ihiy will pro. 
Iclret Bgainft LiW. If yuo oblige the Uwn. 
t, where ^«»l^Jifr^ are qoa/ter'd, to lutnt&t ihciti 
and SmaU Bcit it a GiOit a D^y, it may, in n 

"v. in loioe P.acei, be* Lofs lo Uie Owner* 

but that laii, t hope, will never be genc- 

ai ir.y I'mg CoDtii^kiaicc, jn<J confcqueotiv can never 

■t at tocumcwithia the Nocjce cf the l^aw, fur // 

iQ )(n«t. Sir, (bat, if fuch a Surclty at thla were to be 




If"! 



Vi .i...^'"i': 



.inci, and no /■ 
to enable ami ■ 

^C to itiC'f tj:).4Ior. 



[WW 



;>i Tircf rr.int' ffnur Pc'j'ic H< 



Pay given ta 

in to make an 

nicl and Small. 

■tci to give over 

n',i wou'd djf- 

■ per, Alchoulc- 

, oi ■ * ttn aii Lulk (or h Week i.r 

a Vl ' [i or two in feveo, by Uinj; 

EO tiinuui tiie SoUieri qaajier'd upoit ihcm w it) 

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( 138 ) 

Ji«nof4,Gco Dretind SmalNBtrr. will never force him to£(Tt< 
II l7♦^- Bufineli. even ihn' tmr Arm* were much marc ftai 

^y'Y'X^ than It U : Bof will his bring (o obigfd, creaflon Mf' 
BioiU between him and tK< Soltli«rs; beuu<r. Tthvy AoM 
not icll Ijti fici with fttch F.irc at he m>y :.fr.>rd ibem lor • 
Groats I^y* *nd fli.ulii on lint Arcoont be Dnci*ti, ukl 
|fouWe(onic in iheU Quarters, be may h'^ve an enJy Betr«>5]r, 
without aay Expence. by coroplamirg lo the coti>n<2 *«<))*§ 
Of&cer. who muli, in order to reeomitend himfelf lo iM 
Govemnicnt, be alway* ready to hrai ItcU O'lnplam?- "•* 
logive Rcdicfi. by puriifliing the Sold ier when he d< 
it. 

• From ihitConfideraticm it ». Krr, tbat if «ny Thittj'*- 
hf Law. to be left toCoort<<y »«-d Civi ity, iiocgbr, I :V -'- 
to be Irfi to ttie Courie y md CivilKy of the Saidicr : 
|hk[i hit LA|)illo:ti : Occ me the for cner mar, hy itutttu i^». 
be pur filed for Want of Coantfy or Civility, but I ktom 
no Law cy wh>ch the latier can; afi'l, from £jKpcnc' 
&n.t. ME hive leK Reafon iu accufe Soldxn ot W»m ' 
lit)', than we have to arcule iheir Land'nrdi ; ' 
be owing lo this very Rcolon. that the OScrn ar- 
band, ard have a Pawcr to pimifi) SoTdiei- fur my tuJ< fifr 

- haviour in their Qiiaricrs, wl.ems, the Perloni otMjm «h-in 
Ihey are quif ler'd, »re liable to ro f«ch Ch«k . I n t ' 
iiiir at V^;ikc6e'd, if tt htd not been for a ni»1 (Cti 
2nd piudent Interpr'&iioiiof (hceunm 'ending O/flOCr. ■ nnA 
dargrroui Tuwult might have eniotd i for the Towr'c-CB 
bad cx-()-cratcd the S'j'dicn to Inch i Pegtce. thai 
wtih the oiiDofl DifBculty the commanding Offirrr pic 
thrtr coining to Biewti and if he had not had -< 
deal r>l t'rudence. ai W'cll as greai.'iutliority, over l^> 
flier hit Commnnd, he cou'd not have relfmne'l thC:7 
n vrrging thrmirivev upon fome ol thole f'eiloni ll.^i ■«. 
uoiuiem fo )U. I (hail, therefore, never be efr^d of fM- 
I. t it n the Power of Soldierato deniSnJ f om ■" ' ' 
Kxila what t» ntKiff'ty for iheir Sobfiiianee, ui )u' 
thf canafflfd t>> p->y : ^ui 1 am otrcmcly a'ni 
it ra (he Power cl thcfe Perfoni. upon wboti^ '^ 
qDirterV, to m-ke it titipofiible fcr inem to lutiLlI . nLik,a 
ftOt. 1 thi'k. be the Cate, f ycu do not agree to U^mt tack 
KiguUlton ai I b^ye piopof^, 

• rne Hononrabl'' Gcfitlein^n fays, (he Ca-'c« ttntj 
been meniicned are of an emraonltnary Nature, ii 
not. thercfuie. Ii> be niadoa Poundat!.->0 irr q''r:ip [| 
Eif. the Cile of W^keEeld, &nd the ( -otxinr, 
ftot the only (wo L'afei tfut might be r -In 
otbcr Piftcet, u wcU u there, the locKieepert. and Atfr- 

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( "39 ) 

tntfe krcpers have refufed to fdrnlOi the Soldiers with Diet Anno 14, Cea. 
wd SmiU-Beer, or with Fire, and the titrceflary Utenfils (or ^'- >740. 
dic^^'cbctr own Pruvilioni; and now the Qiitftion is V-/''"Y'N,/ 
l«ncJ> I nuJceDjOoubc, but th-t, in a (bort Time, ttie Soldi- 
en Will meet with the fame Rcfdlal in every Corner of tht 
ckicc Kiogdoms. tt wsk never q>ieitioned, till very lately, 
hm due an Inn- Keener or V'idur.l.er wa^ obliged to fiirnifli 
ifeiSoUiers quartered upon him with Diet aiiu ioiaii Beer, 
K &ieb Rates as the JuHices ihould appcinc. not exceeding a 
Grou m Day ; but of tate they have been by I'-mc Lawyers 
■dviicd, that they are not obliged by Liw to do lo i and 
theie'ore we may expeft. .hai, from henceforth, none of 
ibem Will lurnifh the Soldiers quartered on them with Diet 
or Small-Beer, or with Firing, S-iJt, or any Kiichen-Ucenfils 
for drcfling the Provisions tiiey buy for thtmlcives, which, 
n my Opinion, will mnke it impolUble lor the Soldiers to 
liibfift* cfpeciaUy when they are upon a March fr m one Part 
of tbcKfogJom to ;>naiher; and the nccelTiry Co:ifeque.-ice 
of chu will, I thinks be a Mutiny in the Aimy: wa.ch 1 
dread miicn more than any Danger that can arife from oblig- 
!■£ iBB-Kcepcr» and othcr», to run.ilh the Soldiers qturteral 
■poo them with Diet and Small Beer, at luch rea'onitble 
Raiu u the Juiiice* ftull appoint. Dot exceeding a Croat a 
Diy. 

• I (hall admit, Sir, that k is a ]it:7e unequal, and will be a 
hn of HarJIhrp upon the Oa-ncrs of Public-Houfes, to o- 
WfC them to lurnilh Soicieru witii Diet und SmaJ-Beer it 
a Groat « D-ty, when Provilions arudc^ir; and yet to 'eave 
it ia [he Power of the Sjidicr to furnifh himfcif, or in the 
Power of the Jullices to Riai^e the Owners of (ucti Ijoufes 
nke Ids, when Pruvuions are cheap ; ikh, 1 lay, I (hall 
admit to be a Harcihip, becaufe in Time of Pier.ty the 
Owner* of fuch lljulirs ctn hvc no Opportunity to repair 
the Lofs they fuff;:red in Times of Scdrciiy. Eur, bi.-, 1. in 
a HardOlip ariiing (roni public Neceflicy, and miid iheiefoie 
be lubmtitcd to. U tioi the Quartering of Soldiers a liiiriiU 
Ihip ai well as thit ? And yet no Scrjplc l.as ever bten 
Bade to fubjeA the Owners of Public [Icule^ peculiarjy [o 
this HardQiip. It ii a Jela Hardlhip upon tl-.«:in, than it 
woold be upon any o:hcr Part of the Peuple: and a^ their 
Bufinef) IS more p:of:::;b:c and esfy, tiian moi). other forti 
of Employments, Mhich People of an infeLiur Degivc ulii- 
aUv betake themielves to, ii.c P.irli.>m(;nt wir.:iy, aiid, 1 
Ihmk, jullly too, relolved, tht they ^ione (h>>u!d wear this 
Bordeo, as often as pubiic NccctTity Ihuuld reauire. Tne 
locqualiiy, therefore, uf this Biiidcn or Tax. 1:' yon pleale 
10 call it lb, is cot to bccompUincd of, ai.i :f ^i:c <^^.i.-- 
T 2 rcrjyy 



( 140 ) 

Anno 14, Geo tering of Soldiers were made a Handle of for oj^rcffii 
II. 1740. City, Borough, or Corporation in the KiDgdom, cfp 

O^'Y^^ for the lake of influencing Eleftions, I make no Doa 
that we Ihouid foon hear a Complaint of it in thii 1 
and upon that Complaint 1 as little doubt, that the A 
of fuch OpptcflioD would meet with condign Punifhnt 
■ Thus, Sir, as I fee no Daogers that can accme fn 
Claafe I have offered ; as I apprehend many Incoaveo 
tod even Dangers too, from the Law's being left 1 
I mufl Hill hope to fee what I have taken the Ufa 
tSevt or fome Claufe to the fame EffcA, made a Part 
Bill now under your ConiJderatioD,' 

Mr. Harley. 
Si a. 
Mr Harley. ' '*''* Obfcurity and Uncertainty of the Law now 
our ConfiJcration, proceeds from a very natural C 
Caufe which renders all Laws obfcure, that are intea 
the Promoters to encroach upon the Rights. Libcrti< 
Privileges of the People. By the Laws of Englan 
fince we had fuch a Thing as an eftablilhed Conftiti 
Man*s Houfe is reckoned his Callle ; do Stranger, 1 
Officer is to enter into it without his Confent, unleA 
committed, or is fufpe^lcd 10 have committed fome 
This was the Privilege which every Engliihoian ai 
enjoyed j but Taxes and Branding- Armies have n 
prived molt of the Subjefis of England of this t 
Privilege ; and in all the Laws that have been made 
Purpolc, we may obferve an Obfcurity, which by ] 
only h)S been cleared up. At tirll the Promoters ai 
trivcrs were cautious, lelt the Friends of Liberty fhof 
ceive the Extent of their iTefign, and in the Bills tk 
poled, they fxprelTed themfelves obfcurely, that afte 
in the Execution, they might by Interpretation ext 
Efficacy of the Law : This raifed Doubts and Difpu 
thel'e h:ive generally been cleared up by new or mor4 
five Encroachmeoti upon the Liberties of the People. 
' Thefe gradual Encroach men ts, Sir, are, in do Caf^ 
appirent thoo in wh:it relates to the Laws now ttn 
Confiderarion. When this Projcft of quartering 
upon Public Houfes without the Confent of the Own 
f.^lt thought of, it would have founded Very haril 
t^rsof ail Englifhman, to have feen a Claufe infei 
compelling the Owners, even of fuch Houfts, to 
luch Ciuelif, wlirtlier they would or no. The Pi 
*.%rre therefore obligtd to content ihemfelves with 1 
•o>- giving Libcrtjr, not a Power, to Ccnflables ai 

Ma 



( 141 ) 
^Intcs to qainer Soldiers upon fucb Houfes, and iktj Anno 14, Geo. 
Acy deiired thit Libeny only for Soldiers upon a March, H- 1740 
. far the firft Night of their Arrival in the Piaces ap- k/YN«V 
Mdfurthtiir RtfitleDCC. They were forced to fuppofe, 
K ^ Owners of I'uch Houfes would willingly receive 
rfcSoUieri as were quartered upon them by the Civil Ma- 
faati but this SuppofuioD they took care not to have 
fdtd in the Law, it would then have plainly appeared, 
t there was only a Liberty, which was ail they then 
mud to aflc, granted to the Civil Magiitratc, to quarter or 
DnSoldiers upon Public-Houfe:, but that he had no Powor 
CDBpel fach Houfes to receive them. This was to be left 
CiiAon), becaufe they knew, that few private Men would 
Kudifpoic the Power of their Magillrates; and if any 
:h Difputes fliould arile, the Froje£lor» trulled to their be ■ 
[ible to get it explained in their Favour, by Ibme new 
iufc. Accordingly, Sir, when the Difpute or Quetlion 
II Sartdl, whether the Owner of a Public-Houfe was 0- 
pd to receive the Soldiers quartered upon him by the 
nIMagillrate, iheylt lalt got ihatClaufe inferted, which 
ifaeellood in all Mutiny- BilU, whereby it is enaAni, 
Tkac the Owners of fi-ch Houles fball receive the Soldiers 
^inered upon them." 

' Thu, Sir, that which was at firfl defired as a Liberty 
If, laifince been converted into a Power; and that Li- 
Rf or Power which whs at iirA defired to be temporary 
^, ibit is to fay, to quarrer Soldier? /"or one or mare Nigbtj 
Adr wuiTtbing, »ni fw tbt firfi Night qkIj in Places ap- 
whd f.r thtir Rtjidtnct^ has been iince made perpetual, by 
■ly fnull and imperceptible Alteration in the Words of 
I CUoCe. When this Liberty or Power of quartering Sol- 
nt^oa PubliC'Houfei, without the Confent nf the Own- 
,«u firft adced, the Parliament nould have been amazol 
k-fald beCD cxprefsly alked, ih.-iE Soldiers Ihculd always be 
ofiry lamacei in Public-Houfcs, that thcyfhou'd always 
nca Lodging at free Colt, even in the Places appointed tor 
iir Refideoce: Such a Prcpolal the Parliament would 
« ccrtaisly have rrjcded with DifJain. This the Pro- 
Shi were Kofible of, and therefore they nlked, only Icr 
■ <r norc Nights upon a March, and for the firlt Night 
^ tfier their Arrival at the Place appointed for their Kcfi- 
■II bat uthey had the drawing upof the BiU.^nd were 
Eiicd, if poflible, to extend it ^rther than was then de- 
1^ ibcy took care that this RellriAion ftiould not be in- 
■i ta exprcft Words, or in the proper Place, but brought 
■■ ii were by Head aod SnouJders, at the End of that 

Claulir 



( Hi ) 

^nno 14, CeoOanfe wbich nqaires the jHltices to appoiot Rites for Proi 
U. I74'>- vifioM. 

Sy^^^"''^ * By this means, Sir, our Sunding-Army-ProjcAors it 
firll obcaiDcd t Liberty to quarter Soldiers, by the Inwrpo- 
fitioD of the CivH VfagJllraie, upon Pubtic-Houfes. lor ooc 
or more Nights upon their Marcn, and for the firft N>^ 
only in Places appointed for their RcfiJencei and & FouMi> 
tiot) for a temporary Lodging at tree Colli beine ibui lai^ 
when the Muiiny-AA was revived in the firft Year of iki 
laie Queen Anne, our Army^Projcflors took care (o Ityt^ 
bctcer Foundation for rendering this temporary Privilcgl ; 
perpetual, by requiring Juliice to appoint luch reafoDafak , 
Rates for all necellary Provifionsfor fuch OS.ert and !tol- j 
diers, for ooe or mora N ghts in their marching thro' their 
Ckiei, Towns, and Vill:iges, as fiall Itt appmnitd Jkr tbm 
RtjidtiKt or Qjiorttrt. In thib form this CJiufe \an;ioue4 
for feveral Years; but at lall it began to be conceived ■ 
thefe Words, ■• And the JuiUces of the Peace aforeLiid ait 
hereby empowered and required to letnnd appoint fucb m> 
■Ibnablc Kites for all necellary Provifions, for one or laan 
Nights, in the feveral Places which Soldiers {hiill coine H 
in their M>irch, ur •ailkh fi>{iU bt appointed for tb*ir R^ 
Jen(t and ^tarUrji" in whicb Words, or Wordk to (Ml 
EfTeft, the Ciauic hud Hood ever ftoce. This, as appean* ■ 
but a very fmall Variation from [he Claufc as it llooil'ai %Ali 
and, t am perfuaded, it wus imperceptibly inirodaced, tbi 
is to fay, without being uken Notice of by ihofe wboimc 
the true and finccre Friends of the People, and of the Li* 
betties of their Country. The Misfortune is, that thafc 
who are for keeping up Snnding- Armies, have gcnciallf' 
the drawing up cf fuch Bills ; and this ro^kes it eafy lal 
them to intioduce, imperceptibly, very material and daa|^ 
Tous V'ariations, when they are not moll UriAly looM 
after. 

• But this. Sir, is not the only Misfortune : They halt 
not only the drawing up of the Bills, but they have the E^ 
cution of them after they are palTcd into Laws ; and in lla 
£]cccution they put that Interpreution upon them that bit 
fuics their own Purpofe*, in which they are encourigedtf 
a Backwardnefs, tuo cumniun among private Men, iuCai> 
tenJ wifli the Governn.ent about the Interpretation oFt 
Law, which probiibly was made obfcure. 00 purpole too^ 
ble choie cntruiltd with the executive Power to carry it itfr 
ther tiiai) was ever dreamed of, or would bave beea^ 
proved of by a Majority of thofe entrullcd with tbc*Ll 
fl.uivc. Thas, tho* our Army- Gentlemen bad for (evu 
\cars no Pawer, and for many Years 00 cxprcfi Po«cr, n I 




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ilj'rcrt ill the PImch appointed for flirir Refidtnce. *','**' U.O«lfc 

For ihr AtA N>jbt only «(ter (heir Arnval there, y^t **_"^ 

^odocett the Luftota of quaricrir.g Soltfien even in 

r— —n\Kt^ far ihfftr Rtfiacncf. and dnring (he 

their Rcfid«nc«] fd ttiat the Qinrtering of 

I, in,.c»'J of bring a tempor>ry, became i perpcioa! 

ItfpoB the fubliC-Hoofct in VV'iflminfler, ind many 

"ingaom. And thii Oiftf>m being ot>ce 

; H g'n a foTf iT legal ^Authofity for it, 

. ifcncd intbeMutiBjf Bill, fwiHi'^) ihe 7tli 

wjhcrcDV It wj» en-'Qed, •' j'har the 

lici 10 -' elunirilicr and P'^Ccf adjiiccnt, AiojM b'tlct 

I of !*>«• Foot Ouards in KiCh Houle> only a* by ihc 

. in ind about the Oty of Weflmini'er, cjj. 

f I^rdon. But ttiti of qujtrenbg Siitdien 

■ !rd f»i. and dutitig rhe whole Time of 

deetni d lo be <uc)t a (Jricimnce, that in 

I Vea/of ine late King, and by the firA Mutiny Bill 

in hii Kogn. A L'Isufc wa» rnfcned, by whicli ii was 

; nwhirg in iliai flS Diould extend to ccm- 

..t .-g v( 'ny Fof<- 5:)'dieri if* firgland, ualeU 

Mt.ty of lilt Mnjrij'a U'Ual Rcfidence, or the 

brilhould i}e preient, or in (otne G'irrifoa where 

ncbi we^enoi provided, or upon their Marchci; 

r«ch Mniclict no Perlons Oiould be obliged to 

1 »bovr jfr Dittf It a Time," 

tKc : ■ '' "r wjveMii ihii .Affair to yoo, Sir, be- 

fcca I fair ; ' XI is over, which, i fear, »!![ not 

ivc j,:ir uc II with mure Vigour ihan we ha»C 

. rr put an £nd to it by an ingloficai Peace; 

ki,*iiei; '-.t War i» over, I hope we fliillera- 

fwOpfp' eturning, itneaT as polHble, to Cur 

I r tn4y think it necrffiry to Jccrp 

(= ■'.',_^ 11 Tiineof Pcicc ; but Icao fee no 

< lu( a Mutiny Bill, unleli when ive nre 

la War. V/e kept up I'ooie regiiUr 

li(h« peunblePattorKiog willijin*i Reign, 

'rODpi, ft) far as { could evtr hear, were kept in 

gb Order wtthont any Miriny-Rilli Tor firom the 

Af.rP if.c\%, to ihe zo'.h of Febujrjr 1701, when Z 

\ Sp^in brg^i) to be thought uniroid* 

-,... ,\>l 1,1. .ling tnthi* Kingdom ; and 

-cfa Law fubiifting, e«cpt 

. iJ<L> julc I iJo not like to make 

■ Peire. to whom wt are to trail out 

wir uc]:ti<;c la Tiiae of War. 

• I{irin£ 






( 'U ) 

Anffa i4»Q<o « Hivini; iliai given yoj wy Scautr.tru xhtot i ■ 
11 174U- for whicli Soldiers m»Y or ouj^hc 10 be qturtcrcil, i 

l/*V^O come to the very Point now in Queflion, I fhiU brg Le««« 
to expliin a little farther, how, ind by what Degrees tM 
Owncfi of Public-Hoiires were compelled to receive the SjJ- 
dicn quartered upon tbcm b^ (he Civil Mfigillruc. I ri>i 
Hxt2.dj rakcn Notice, that nhra the Qmricnog of ~ 
u|)on (uch ilo\i{e» wu iirft aVd Tor, i: wsi aSt'^ l^. — 
liberty onl/, not a> « Power. The C-onlLiulci aad Ui< 
gtftratci were not empowered aod rrtjuired, it ii Otid ea'f, 
that ibey any quarter and billet OiHccrs and SolJicr* ujto 
lans and other Public-Houfes: N«)r, the ConOabln and 
MagiQrstes might have rtfoTcd To to do : There wa> no Lav 

for panilhin^ chem for fueh Rc/ufil, till the lirft ','. 

hia late M. j:Jly*s Reign, when a new Cbufe wai infr 
that Purpoie. And as (o the Owners of Pub!tc>tiouv>, 
thejf were for many years left entirely ai Liberty, wbetfar 
they Oiould receive the SoMlcr* fo quartered apoo thcsi 
far I know of no [<awthat To much aslermcd to oblige thns 
10 do fo. [jll the tench of the late Queen Annt. and t 
compulfatory Cliufe wai introduced bnc in apattij, 
nrrj for in that Lawa new Chufc waf introJucrJ. b« wL^k 
it was enjScd, ** Thstitapy Perfon (Itould be aggrjerr^hf 
1 CJonlUblc's bttirting in hit Houfe a grca er Nuf ' 
Soltlicrt than be ought to bear tn PrDpc'riton to hn .' 
bour;, upon CompUini 10* Juftlce of Peace, that fultier w 
to relieire him. by ordering to m»ny of th< SoMicri to t« r>- 
jnovcii snd quartfred upon (ome other Perfoni, who lliali bt 
obliged to receive tbeir accordingly." 

• This, I fay.Sir, iithefirii Claiife lean find, in any of ow 
Mu(iny-A<h, th«t feente to oblige Owuen of Poblit ' 1 -i' 
to receive any Soldier fo qoarrer'd vpoo tbcm i . 

Foanilaiioa being once laW, a Pretence h.-- ' 

been taken, to inferi fome new and geatral 
Mutiny -Billi of late Vean, by which it it ■ 
(he Ofiicert and Soldirrt fo qnartrrrd and 
faid. fi»U be rerrwcd by the Owner* ul the ir> 
PoWic-Hoaiirt (■■ and it i» remirltable, that n 
which make (a great as Aticraiion in our l^w, i 
fntmed intpa Claufe by ihrrpfelvci, but were, ai I i: 
fotn into the Begloring of tint C'.'ulc. *h«ch c 
•' I'hat the SoiJicti iiiaU puy teaJoKib-e Pri''r< lor tbe 
\iiioBj futrilhcd them liy the Owoen of U»» Hooie.'. 
thry »re quirwied.'' 

• You may now iee. Sir»by what i!o», - 
wb>t impixepnbtr Degreri rar ^iu(iny-A- 
prcfiuit ^l]lturtt)' and PeilciUon ; aod row I nod &; 



i 



( U5) 

Sg Twicti feemstDbcdefigned, FiflifliingI may call ii, Annoij.CoiS 

^,1na double Scnfc ; it will oc tr.e finifhiog loLcii fo :liis '' '■^*°' 

|!tl, iinid 1 am afraid, tiie ftniOiing fi.ow [o the Liberlici of w^~V~SJ 

ir Cotiiitty, Oar Soldiers, which 1 am iotry far, and 

^bicD wr m»j comr heartily to trp^iti of. iTwc ibould ever 

|Ve Occihon for their Courage; our Sotdxrl, I Uy, have 

tag bcCfi m^tdc Stivei by ibis Bill ; »nd now, (he Owners 

faU ihc PablMr.Houks la the Jung^loni Arc to be tnide the 

ITC3 of mole Stkvct: For ilii* will bcibe Calc, if we 

ilj bv Any expreft Law (tbiige the Owners of lach Hourci 

f^rniOi the Soidien q<uttci«d upun tiieni, With pietand 

iU-B«f. whether tlicy wiH, nay %vheihcttbev can. or no. 

* Sir. It 11, 10 my Opinion, of very liulc Sign:fi:;Ation to 

preficni Qucllioo, whether this w^tor wjs not the Mean' 

_ vf a'; or any of the Mutiny B.llt we h^ve palled into 

't*vn, 1 an very fure, I never thought it wai^ »nd if it 

Jfere detetmined lo b« fu. by cue D«ciecofany Court of Ju- 

ncaiure iu Englaod, 1 ^lojld be for our t-ikii:^ the Art! Op- 

>riunity to alter the Liw in ihii rcfpe£t Sue when we 

itk oftht: Meaning and Inic<itioii uf luch L^\m, wc uugbt 

dillinguiOi bet^^cen the Mir.'ntng and Intenuan vf (bolie 

bat were ibechief Promotcfsof them, and the MrAningand 

ttcntion cf thofe who only gave titcir Confent to the ptf- 

ig of them. As to the former. I muke no Qyellitio, but it 

u ihrir Meaning and Intention to oblige the Owners of 

ibliC'Houlci to fiirniOithc Soldien with ail necftlary Pro- 

■(ioaif thi' they dtirll no; declare their lotcmions in cxprcls 

^ords, became ti would ciiher have thiowii ou: their Bill, 

have otcafioocd the inlening of fume ejcprel's Wordt 

^>in(t wh.it chey intended : 1 hey the;cfv:e chofe to driw 

Ip their Biil in a dubious Sort uf Expreffion, that after they 

got it pfTrd ioiQ a Law, ihey mig-it make the molt cf 

in tbe Rieculion i and, indeed, chey made fo good an Ufe 

tbeir f't^wcr in the KxctutioD, that the Okvne.'i of moil 

Public.Houlei did >gree to wtut tbcy dcfired. 

' Btn in ibia. Sir, tbey were «l fidt very much &voured 

the CircuuiIl.iDCe of the f tmei i beciule the Nation be- 

i; at thil Time engaged in a^hoavy and expcnfivc War 

'iR France, the Uevolution in ici Infmcy, end our pub- 

^redii far fioin being lo well cAdbl>(hed ai it hai beca 

sec; out Govrinrnmi waicfteii very fhuiiof Money, an4 
Ery diUtory in their Faytncnts to i.f-* Aimy, cfprcially lo 
lofe Regimemi thAt icmAincd within the Kingdom, who 
Verc fgoictimti lor iTcreral Moatlu togtihcr WKhuui re- 
iivliig any Pay; «nd when our Soldiers had no Money lo 
^ur<hdfe Proviilum iur thcmlelves. it bcuine oectfTiiry to 
kvc them provxicd ibr by tlioTc upon whom iiie> »cte quat- 



11. i7*r 



tfreJ It Wft?. thtrerort. the Public Nectfitty tint aait 
the Owners of Publtc-Houfn fabmit la the famiOiing ihe 

Soldier* with Din and SmaH-B«r, and not iny C ■' f 

ncfa of their being obliged by Ltwtodofo; ■' 
fame Rcafoo, the Parliament, at ihat Time, cwnivr.. .1 
]nrer|^reation put upon the Mntiny-Afi by thofe that 
been the Promoter* of it : Nay, in the Year 1696-7, 1 
Parliament agreed 10 a Ciaufe, which rc?m'd to confirm 1 
iTiicipmation : for it wji then enafird. ■* TUat r>o li 
holder or other Perfon (hou'tl, doring tbc Continuance rf 
that Aft, be oblig'd to provide Meil or other V'lOualj 
any i^Idieri. legally quartered on ihtm. orcept in ta 
M*rth only, ifihey fhoald give or tender to each Horfem 
6d. per Uitm, for hi* Subfillcnce in Meat only, and to ewr 
Dngopn and Foot Soldier 4d. per Dtcm for the fttne, 
Ticet Cindle and the Ufc of hii Fire for drtiEog bU Meat 
•nd by anoihcr Claufe in the fame Ad it Mr^i pravii 
•• That Inn holder) ard oiherifhoyld furnifb for every Sof- 
dier. UwruMy <joariered upon ihem, f.odging. 5m»II-Bw, 
'»t)d Candle, with the Ufe of Fire todrcfi hii Meat by, iti 
Hay and Straw 10 a light Horfrman, and ;d. per Diriii t> 
I Dragooa. But one may esfily fee, that thefe Cmfei f 
ccetfed from the Ncceffuics the Public w»» that Year 
ccd (o, by Reafon of the clipp'd Monty hiving been cal! 
in to l>e rtcoined buc the Year before, and by Hr^ifon oft 
vaft F.xprnre this Nation wit at in fupponing the W 
which I>k! them under a NcccSity cf piying 8 per Ol, 
for Money borrowed in that Year 1 am] this obliged the ~ 
Itamcnt to content to this hirOi and uneqoal Method ofpr^ 
vidirg for the immrdiate Sjbfillcncc of the 7'roops. 

* 1 am, tlierelbre, very well convinced, Sir, that k 
ftcvet the Inieniion of the Majority in Parliament, to 
jri\ the Owneri of Public Hoolei to the unwjual and h 
Burden of being obliged to fumiOi the Soldierf, q^ 
upon ilicm, with Diet aod Small-Hrt^, at a Groat, or 
other Rate, per Dtrm 1 and, 1 believe, no Lawyer will Gr^ 
lh«t I Man cftn be (nbjefled to n Penalty, or Obljgitiofl, by 
Inference from any Words In 1 Law that can udmit of iMk- 
thcr InterpretJition. But whether or no the Mijoriiy of 
Parltamcm have been drawn in to do what they Jid ace it- 
tend, -li I am nn Ijiwyer, I (f«]I not pretrad to ifcicnsiK. 
I mnfl be, at jrart, dffobtful in my Opinion; and I hart a 
«ry good Authority for being to { for in the Aff4ir at Lf4. 
bory. a very grnt Uwyrr, and one of the Jodg«s upon cW 
AIIrx«« then holding there, I mean Judge Lomyos, w»» aftrd 
ht» OjMoion opon thu rery Qucllion, and be drdnrtd haa- 
Icf to be doubtful. 




11 '740- 



r H7 ) 

I* The ArgumcDt, Sir, which hat been iJraWn from the Annoi<«,Cko 
■J Jiillitrsio fettle idc Price of I'foviiioni, ji 
vtcci fur I do DOC tliink the Jultico lud 
Icu.c ^ny Power lo ptdcnbe how mucli a. SolJicr 
l,ot to order iliac hiE l^xudlord Chould (\ttn\fh him 
mack u be coaM at for & Groit. or at any leiT^r 
Diem : They were only to appoiot and iiit-xitiin 
■ of all iiccefr4ry PruviGotii, fuch at Srcai^S.aa!l' 
tcf, Kiuttor, Batter, Chccic, aiiJ tlic like, accofd. 
'TOtlK' 'litei, ti ihit Time, aod in tbic Place i 

Xhit A; . ' t of tbeiri, ncidicr wai, nor could be 

to Uhc i'Uce, but in Catcs whcte Itie Suidtcr mi 
llordrohild noc cgiec between themfetvci. 'I'acic tn- 
ioa HOideGgnd only, artd cou'd be ddi^nM for no- 
llua 10 prevent Dilputet between Sul^iicn and tbe 
rtooi upon wlium they were i^uaricT'd, And, furely, i( 
iitti hAve been a very bme PruviGon for paying, duly and 
Vy, ihe Quaiten of [he Army, if the Law hid obliged an 
tpcr 10 fwrnidi every Solilier will) a» much as he 
. aad of what Sort of Proviftonk he plealed to infift 
allowiog hid) any more clua a Croat a D»y, 
Ut t>ie JufcA Times, and lor the bell Sort ul Ptovi- 



^To tdl 01, Sir. that the Inn-Keeper will alwayi meet 

ifruiii tiic commanding Officer, in cafe iSo'dier 
too much, or too deliuic l-afc. bccauCe tbe Offi- 
thereby rccommeud himrell to the Guvetnment, i« 
log very ttrange. bccauCe it may, in ir.any C^fct. be 
utbrfwilc: A Regiment or two may be fcnt to cot< 
unruty County, Liiy, or [jorougb : A priva:c Hint 
thecoramMidingOrti-'er. that tliiiii the Dc- 
him there, jnd thu Oefigo may be commu- 
jUlieri. Mult we not, in this C^fc, {uppvCe 
'■ will make ine molt rigoroui Ufe of every 
^gtt £-an>r>l them by Ltw ? Can we (uppofe. that the cotn- 
ling Omccr wili be rradv to hear or redrew the Com- 
>of tbe IdliJ&itarm* It' he it, I am fure. we cannot 
be K^tll (tiereby recommend himfelf to the Govern* 
:iQCh a C3>'e at thii. Sit, may certainly happen ; and 
Sttt tu fuppi>lie, ib:ii BO foch Cafe ever did bappcii* 
icJe ita (jch CumpUmt had' ever been tiroughc lo P<ir- 
it. It i> ienpollible. Sir. to prove the Paft upon wl.ieh 
A CMbpUitit mull be gruuuded. I'hc true Caufc of 
liB( a Kcgimeni to quarter upon a Botougb, may be luf- 
i it m«y be ujinwll certainly gueHed at; bat Mini, 
h^refo many Rcafoii or Pretences to alledgc f«i Tend- 
one Df more Regiments to any P.Ltt of ' tbe Kingdom 



V 2 



tUit 



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Anno li, Geo that it is impoITible to prove, they had no other Reafonbut 
II. I740 that of the Borough's having fent two dilsgrceabie Facet to 
this AlTembly. 

* But fuppofe, Sir, thftt no fuch Cafe could ever happen i 
and ftippofe that the OiBccTi of the Army (houtd always be 
rc3,dy to hear and redrrfs every jull Complaint againft ihe 
Soldiers, or any Soldier„under their Command ; iho' I have 
a very good Opinion of thcJulUce. Honour, and Impartta- 
Jity of the prefent Officers of our Army, yet, I fliall never 
agree to a Regulation that renders any Part of the People 
liable to be opptcffed by the Soldiers, without any Relief 
but from the commanding Officer. I do not think, that the 
eftablifhing of this Regulation cin be prefumcd to h»n 
been the Jniention of any Parliament of Great Britain, nn- 
lefs we, at the fame time, fuppole that the Majority of 
the Parliament confiAed of Officers of the Army, which ii 
not tobefuppofed of any Britilh Parliament hitherto; tho' 
I do not know what may be the Cafe hereiifier, if a Bill fe- 
vera! times propofed without Succefs, fhoula never rone 
with a better Fate than it has done. If this, indeed, (hould 
happen, we may expcft to fee fuch a Clnufe as this approved 
of. ai d another Claufe,' which is the only one I can at pn- 
fent ihink of, that is wanting to make this Bill a complete 
Syttem of Slavery ; I mean a Claufe for fubjcAing Pubtic- 
Hcufes to fevcre Penalties, if they do not furnifti the Soldi- 
ers quartered upon them, with convenient Lodging and all 
fieceiTary Provtfions. 

* Such a Claufe as chii. I fay. Sir, feems to be wanting; 
:ir,d if we agree to the Claufe now ojlercd, Ifliallexpeclio 
fee fuch a one as thie offered in the very next Srffion cf 
Parliament: for your obliging Inn-Keeper» to receive Sol- 
diers, andiofurnifli them with Diet and Small Beer, willaot 
fgnify much, unlefs you fuhjcA them to Penalties, oreiv- 
power thr Soldiers lo make Dilltels and Sale of their Good;, 
if they do not. 

* 1 mention this, Sir, to fhew you what this fuperlative 
Care ot the Army mufi, at tall, drive you to: But what 
inuH be the Confequence Mn a little Time you will have 
no Inns, Alehoulei.or other Public-houfes in the Kingdom! 
It leall, nut near fufficierit for quartering your Army t at.d 
[hen you muit quarter your Soldit-rs upon private Houfc!, or 
build Barracks icr them. 7'he latter, 1 confefs, I ftiould 
rather fu^mit to, tho' I think the certain Confequence of it 
would, St Ir>>K beamilitary Government; becaute it wou'd. 
in a fncr; Time, render our Army a fort of difticA People. 
't^'bili: ojr S-jIdicrs are quartered in :he Public -Itoufes up and 
dQw;i the Couotry, it prelerves a Corrcfpondcuce, ud aa 

Intimacy 




II. 



( <49 ) 

twttn cfc«n and ihc People: TTicy often con- Anno 

[bJp* cogrUrtr, which pr<rcrves in liie Army 

ier 1^e People, and makrs i^tm look upon 

no noihiojr more t'<jn Fcllow-Subjc^j ; but. if 

lU ODCC come to be lodged in B^traclti, feparate 

-*' *-- -haiticlvtj, tliey ww'd foon begin to loolc 

1 a» fo.'e Malien : They woyld rlirn break 

jcncc with, nixi lofc all Rrgari for tbe 

iTd br t)ie rame. in ivery Rei'pefi. wiik 

They would confider nothing but thetr Pey 

in the Army, and would be ready to obey 

' >rt that codd be given them by their 

f'i the CoBfeijucDcc of which would 

:..;iii:tc[ii of a military Government. 

lir. are Con/r<]uencef that are moH jullly to Em 

you' agiccing to what is now ptopnfed ; but, 

hand, whiit \i i\ t ConfcquetKc we &re ihrea- 

II 1 itt) really furprrzcd lo heur it mentioned in 

(, li I) faid. if you do not agree to fome [gch 
Bl», the Army will miiciny. What, Sir, will 
Imioy, if yuu rcfufe [liem a ULierty to oppreii 
? Whm I hear rhis Houfe thrcittrncd with fuch 
vfocc. I muft fiy. it ii high Time for uj to think 
■f out Army, or of (ending [hem. where they 
hirv bom (cot long ago, Abraad to ^gfat our Er.e- 
*T» thry miy g'lo Eoth Hoflour and Wealth to 
9, »ihi at tbe-fa ix time yindicstc tbe Honour of 
iMry. If t| a commun I-'ailing of weak Miodi. 
tinet of nnk Miniltert too, S>r, to avoid IriTcr 
running thrmfelvei into gioter, and rather than 
bCAfcJvct tu a finai] itntitediate Oar.gcr^ to run 
flitft a Z^r>ger which ii much greater, but a Uide 
DOtt: I with thii nay not Uiely have been our 
ih retaid to fuicigo Affiirt; I am fute it wou!d 
■ > rcfpccl to (^otneflic. if. for fear of a Mu- 
. wi- tboUid give them a legal Title to op- 
xh would be the Conlcquence of our 
propolcd. aad thcieloic I mull dccUre 



'4>Ceo. 

I74tt 




, Jtily forry when I heard thai any Doubt or j^j, Pclham. 
•rKet), ffbom the A&iir you have now ondcr 
fidcntiof). I forcbw, that the Difcufton would 
cd With great iocodTcaiencin, and thac it would 
a BucJt beu<r» if the Qucllifin had never been 

ilarted 




'«''" with fk. " ^° •■ "ad tJie sS:i- "*« *« tbm 
*'"nave any iv.- l' ^cannot Dn./1, ° ""' Pxtoil 



"> «tcfy, a-j . ' * '*^, has beco .1, ^*^^ War), n 



kn. 



( 151 ) 

Soldiers (]uarKr«d upon thrm, but what wts rt- Atmo ■ 4. 
' tbcOfBccr?. ai fooB as they heard of 11. U- i"<0. 

•Iaw itictfffotr. Sir, during the Time it h« bfcn L/'^VNJ 
•n ihii Senle, hns proijuccd no bad BfTcA ; but 
be intcTpreccd o:ke;wirr, ai 11 will be, if yoa re- 
tCbulc, Gou lcnow!.n-hat iH E{K^. ii may prodocr. 
r, or ctfacr Perfon, apon whom Soldicri may 
quirtcr'd. will ibink himretf obliged to furmlb 
for the Soldiers, even when they are upon a 
iar.J onietjucnty, no Ion keeper will furniln any 
'■' >grco to p;iy the Price be plcafei to de- 
. ^ Kd mjy appoint Piicei, but what will that 
lAlan he obirgrd to furniih or (ell iti the S^oldier 
"lbeM.»rch of a Regiment, 'I'roop. or Com,' 
Ibon a Matketor £!ctiion-Oiy :;: every Couo- 
piff thro': The I'nct* of all Manner of 
|1 rile to doulile what they are upon ordr. 
■II and if the Soldicn will not, or oittiiot. 
llialy the Cafe, pay ihofe Prkcij do Man will 
Thing. Sir, it ii cify to fee wliat thit mutt 
tltf Soldiers will not (larve in a Country where 
Ifkmy, n ii onrcafbnabie to cxpefl they fhould i 
tacnot pay :bc Prkci dcroartdcJ, they will lalce 
wan: at their own Price, perh;ip* witbcut paying 
.btcaufetltc Clime will, in firifl Law, be the feme ; 
, krtak cpcn Doof ! to come St it, or to learch for 
' loch n rtoi]^ of Men (hould once b^gin to think 
~|ir ' the Eye o( the Law, they will ratu- 

^;n to rhtnk of dolLroying that Law, 
i^iietlrc/ (tietn ; !<'. m ibcy will expcd, 

1(9 ntghf, p:t. re: wilU ihcSuppott ol^ 

Amy. 

EStfl!, Sir, arc cfrciioly lobe 3pprehctuled,bf. 
r, t think, lh<y aro the o^luial Coircq-ienco of your 
r T j\. . ill (liit tefpecL I call il aitctmg the Law, 
'W,)t Ml ai IraJt been undcrltood to be 
"-r paA. It thii wat really the im* 
iniog of the Law, I'arcly ro great 

EC N~i L ,,^:ni your mikiij^ the Law tiiote 

ti* wu not the itnpUcd Mun.ng of the Law, 
■ -■■*' '-r -r-kr it die txprclTcd Meaning 
Sifcty jtqutres it- Some 
nkrn n j'-.iv(d« fof the Snidie/i; The/ 
r. atkd they muA live upoa a Groat a Oiy, bccaute 
a« note lo give- They muft tuve netefGuy Pro- 
' tfce Trices ifaey are nblr to pay for them, and thcj 
lire them ai or about the Placet where tbey are tfuur- 

teietf. 



'( t$t ) 

■Annou.Gw Wtrf, Weatjfe »ccor(!Jng tothe Rules of 

n I7*'- A'my, they cannct go rlicwhcre to feck for them If 
^Z*"*^"^ oblige ihc Owner! f^f Publir-iioafci tn furnilb nrv 
vifioni for the Soldiers quanrrcd upon them, a: ; 
ihe'^oIJrcti arc able to p4y. foi at thotc I'ticci tJic 
fprntfh or not at all, yoo ooty make ihcm a furt of 
for the Atmr, which ha> never been thtjughi a bi 
ment : They wilt generalty hare feme Diyi 
Rcgitneni, Troop, or Cumpany's cooiing to be quit 
upon them, and will take care ro proviile Tome D'y* bef 
hand, when ihe Mirtecti are cheap, or they will lerij tai 
Market I'owa tn the Nci'ghhojthood where they 
cheapen. They will always hive rnanj' OppcrtantlU 
many Method<i of providing (or the SoUiers, at a 
Rnre chiin thry can piovmc fur [heoifctvo; anJ Gnc 
may rocafily.and lb certainly, provide fur the Solditn' 
icrrd uptMi tliem. at fuel) Piices ai thcSoldierk arr ifiic| 
pay, I cannot think there would be any grtit Hknllhif 
obliging ihcm ;o dofo. 

* The Dangers froin ihcnce ariling, and whict: - ' ■ 
fei in fa lertible a Liglu by fome Genttemea in *.' 
arc in my Opiaioc, Su, mere Ilu^bcari. cieatcd t 
gimiiun oiily- It will very larely bipptn, d. ... , 
Places at any Otilance from London, that aSoldin tumj ij 
br plcmi/ullj' (urijiftied at the me of a Groat ilhy; itq 
any Soldier fliauld infiR upon agiciier <: ■ ■ ' 

or upon mote delicate Fare, than Cin i . i • ( 

Price, he wtll not only be defpifed by bis Compinioti, 
puntihcd by hii Officer i for hiihoito in the Amy, u 
fiflcc, it will always be (6. there is oothmg re<koii*iI 
tiiftionaniable and defpicablc than for a Saldirr co be i 
fomc snif unealy in his Quiricr*. without any juft 
-from whcDCe. I believe. It would be a very (Uftgefoitt 
jcd to fendSoUiert to quarter tn a City or Burou^h. 
private Hint to be z^ opprrfTive at poflibTe id their 
live Qoarten, in order to punifh City or Boroo^h i 
count of an EleAioo. Thank Godt the Sol<]i<n of 
Army would as yet defpilie fuch Ilinti. and ibofr ihacj 
Ihem : Tbey would think ihemCclvcs obliged in Hi 
difcover the Authort of fuch trtafonabic Pradicci 
ifae ConDitution of their Country 4 at 
Complaint, it would be very eaiy for tl 
and puntfli the Au:hot}: Nay. aiwe:iic c.u: 
the Kotei of Evidtnce in Weftininl1er-Hd!t, u-«; 
ptohably by proper fifung, came at ibe primr. 
Author. 




( 153 ) 

* Tor ibefr RmIoiii, Sir, I mull ihlnk, that the DiQg«rs Anno 14, Geo: 
ftmiti to trife from our obliging ihe Owners of Public- "- '^-f-'- 
MMi to furnifli Diet and SmalUBcer for the SoIdJcn qiiar' ^^TrVgy 
mnA Bfoa them, anr all imaginary ; but the Dangrrs arifing 
tfcAffir Inving the Suldicri of our Army unprovided for, 
Ml cfeca wtihoiit a Poiribility of providing for chemfelvei, 
sifir Eratn beins fo. 'Httte Dangerj therefore miifl be 
foWUigiibll : 1 Iboolil be gild to ^nd fomc other Expedi- 
m br avoiding ibefe Danger6i bat if 00 other can be 
6fKl, we noA cake what h now propofed. Tt is the Bud- 
tdltf c«try Gentleman here, wbea any DiRiculiy or Dan- 
ger ocean, 10 think of, and contrive fuch Expcdicnit 11 may 
be »eft cJK:AuaI aod moA fafe for his Country ; and yet 
tkn an £>me (jcnttemen in this Houfc, who ferm to be< 
*f t«avcry diflfeieni Manner : They arc alwayi Jlarting 
iooi ai^ainfl.and prcfaging Dangfn from every Expc- 
(icy hi4r propafcd. but never otticr any Propofil, any 
ly 0* Pievcniion, of their own. As thefe Gent'cmcn 
have a mrghty fruitful (nveniion, I wilTi they would 
K to the Cifo now before ut : I wifh they would pro- 
jntc (iflttc oihcr F.xpcdicnt for preverdng the Evil we ara 
fnftMthmtcn'd with. If they do, I protnife (hem. I (hill 
it aeaitdid a»l impartial Examination ; ami if [ think 
redSrAual or more fafe than what ti now propofed, I 
cmMtiij give it the Prtftrrpce.' 




I &all SOI prttend to tell yoo what ii now the Law, with 

U iht quartering cf SoUiteri. I huve carefully read 

riti* KSl now fabfiiting for th?t Purpofe : but I mail 

,1 an a littlt dcobcfu) in my Opinion, and I have do 

10 be afliaraed of frying fo, after lb great a L3Wyer, 

^CocDyn*. declared himCelf doubtful, ai an lionotir- 

■cnifcmia hit been firafcd to inToTtn ut. I have* 

-d for the two learned Gcnilrmen, who hare 

pinions upon the Quell-on j but at I am con- 

\tmcnz Law)-eTt, 1 have known Lawyer* gtre Opini. 

Houfe, whkh were contrary to the Opinion of 

ofihc Prof(ffii>n [ and therefore, the Opini- 

ive been givrn^caa be no Atithoriiy for dccUriug 

[jtw It prffcnt. 

H-- --'V GeotlenuQ who fpoke laR, Sir, hit 

Bf. -I' ver may be the Meaning of the Law, it 

llbf onr '■ ; ;■ 1 e*f» patt been a prevailing Opinion, that 

Owrrij t-r Pu:,lic hoiil'es were by Law cbUged to fiirniih 

-1 quar.ered opoo them, wtlb Diet and SmilN 

iL X BtKT, 



C 154 ) 

Aopot4,Geo.Beer. Thtt thii. Sir. bu been the gcnerU ?nBtk 
Il->7 4'>- be true 1 I believe the Oivneri of fucb Houfti bcTi 

L/*N^^J rally donefo) but tfaii it no Picmf of iti havUig 

gencrit Opioian, ihtti they were by Law uUligcd li 
A Mbr will fubinit to I JaiU Hardtbip, rather thta 
a doubtful Point iQ l.aw; but wben ;h&t Hardlhip I 
gricvou*. he think* It woiih h'u wbilc to cootell it; 
than (ubmit to it loy longer. The Doubt ibat 1 
Utciy ftirtcd, does act. therefore, proceed from 
biviiig altered their Opinion, but from your bivi| 
up lucba numerous Army for fucb a Number uf Yc»i 
Peop e grew at lill tired of fultniitting to ■ Hardfliif 
Chey doubted if they were oi>[ij:?il to lubmii to. toA 
inJkad of being removed or lightened. <hcy fouiui 
{rowing almoll every Year moie heavy iltao il was 

• This, Sir,u the true ReaVon of the Doub< that M 
Uiely Dated, in rclaiiott to the fumtOiing cf Soldid 
Diet and Small Beer, or with lUy and S:raw fa 
Horfei, at the Prtcet allowed by the Govetnitvent : I 
have now fuch a gical Numbrr of Land Forcci wid 
Kingdom, thm I am aot m all furptiard »i the Pe«|| 
ing gtnerally refolvcd to have ihii Qjellioo tieicrnu 
way or oihct. What UCe wai dcfigncd, or wiui 
be made of this great Liou-Army, I QiaII not pn 
gu«[t i but I Bm afraid, no U(e, at lealt no nilinry I 
be made of thcra. At we arc in courfe to have na 
mer a new Patltament chofen. the great Augmcoial 
have m^de, aad the expcnfive minocr in which % 
made that Augacntmion, gives Occafion to very a 
pkioni. People know what an U£b may bemKic 
niCuoos for Officers lo fcrvc in tb« Army, with n 
RIedloni for Members to fcrvc in Parlinmeni ; A < 
fioo, or the Promifc of a CommifEon in the Army. 

Sge a Mao and bii Fiicndi to Tme for a wcaJc or 
milter, who would oihcnvife melt certainly vot< 
bin- 'I'he Terror* of having a RegimeBt of foi 
Regimcniof Dragocotfcnt toquaiur upon a Boros 
engage the MagiArsici, fomc of whom a;e often Ii 
crt, to vote for a Court Candidate, Khofe Face thcv hi 
the Flearure to behold, in Ospobcion to the mott bl 
and boiietl Gentleman in thnr Neighbourhood. 

• Thcfe, S:r, arc Tome of the illegal Vfn that 
mideoi an Armyj and every illegal U'fe that can 
of an Amy. win receive ncwStrrngtb from ibc Am 
tow piopofed. If you lay lon-kcepcn, aad other 
cf Public-faoutef, undera legal Obligation to fitrnilfa 
tficri with uKcSiiy V-.ori&oat lot tbemlelva and t 



C >55 ) 



, C«o. 



tppaintrd by Law, is yoa cuootilbetteiB An 
irtJiy Of Kind of (acU Prorifioni. the Owocri ILj'i"" 
will Bever be able to Uatiy ibe SalJiers ijia/- V«^»^N^ 
ID. The Soldier will in Till upon having more 
lifo tile laii<I(cepcr can bu)' lor Six -pence, 
1m lUonrcd, would be k very great Oppreffion 
I and tww iihe tobetelicTedF W|tv, hy the 
|«od-nMure ofthe comnundiDg Officer. Sir. 

be good-natured ind hiiinanc.i believe mi- 

le fe) but it h bitdly poStble lo pieveat a 

liule partial to one of fiis own LJoth : and 

" tlitak, a Law for Tobjctling the People to 
Smo. B/ilhoui any other RcBcdy, could neither 
'Mtut*J nor humuic ; efpcciallyirweconrider, 
Ifigincnt is *eal to cotre^ an obilinate Bo- 

. the comnunding Officer, wtthaat fo much 
know, that lliii Prtfermcni dependi upon hit 
to the ComptaiDtt ol the lahabitanu. 
(txh i Lswai (hit, acthii Time, will therrfore 
rcaic ihofc Sclpicioni that hare been already 
AugHKotatioD wc have lardy mide to our 
Qxpcofive tiuRocr in wbkh tliil Augmentation 
ri ud in tbei'e Sufptcioni moA People will be 
tiiCfrailcfl Part of our Army it not very fooa 

KiflgdoRi, to carry on with Vigour the War 

in. If any* thing like thii bedcfigmo', 

far a tiering or rxptaining the Law i 

will ibcn have but few Soldiers quirtercd 

wiU liierefure cOQCinue to do, as they have 
A forty Vean pad. The Owncn of Pobtic- 
iptinue to rurnifti the Soldicn with neceflarjr 
n the Soldier content* himfclf with fuch Pro- 
Landlord can futnint at the Price sllowed b^ 
til : Hay, they will furnilh the Soldiers, 1 
better Kroviiiuns, and with more' Good^wjIL 
4tma lot twenty Veart pail ; for when a Pxtt 

employed in lighting viaorioufly, ai [ hope 

~iil fiMmiei of Itieir Coootry, the N^tne 
agiia begin to be rclpe^ilcd and beloved 

f, will be tba Confequaoce of fending a great 
Abroad to tighi a^ainlt the Fnetoie) c(^ 
lalndof keeping ihctn :ic Home to opptefi 
1vcac« lliG next ge-Rcra! ElcC^Joas. Fiut 
potiltoo now m-tdc to ii* gives mc fome 
that liirre ii n.'i ki much m a Dciign 
irtof our Army ALro;;d ; and ihU tnikci 
X i uc 





( is6) 

Anno 14, Ceo me tlic more unwilling 10 i|rce to whni the Hoi 
IL 1740. Gcmlcinan baibcen p cafed to propofe ; for if fuch ft Ni 

^-^''"V"''^*^ bet of regular Force* be kept wiihin the Kingdom, but fj 
a (cw Yean, xnd fucn n Iaw it >s now pmpoM turpi m 
Foiec, ihe Number of Publ»c houfei will dcercale fo much, 
that it will be impofliblc to find Qoarters lor ilic Army la 
fuch Hourct. and (hit will of courie nuke Bameki abb- 
luiely Dtce^ry, whkh will foon put as End to our ktpp 
Conllitution. We mull alMiyt bave la this KingJon a 
grcjt N'ombrr of Travclleri upon our public Roadi : If 
had no Trade, which nay be the Conletjuence of oar 
Mealuie, if oot foon aUcred, yti (be very Nature of 
ConftituiiOB occafions a greater Number of TrartUen.^ 
thit Kingdom, than jq any ncighhoaring Co-.Ptry 
Menohert both ol thii aod ibe o:ber Hou7e« of Parltaiwc 
mull hi. accommodated ivlih l^gingand StabliDg^ is tbcit 
Joumies to and from Patliamcnn but hou- OuU ihey (kk- 
commodltcd, if every Inn they come to be fullof SoJdMnF 
Will they Ik in the Streeti to make toon tor a Lmi m 
Member of Pailnmenl i Will they be commanly r>vil m 
any Traveller that conies to hamper them in ibnr Qm-j 
tttii On the contrary, thry do oot always bebare 101 
moft civil manner to Travellcn, even of the firfi 
lor lately at North- Allenoo they fciztd onnnd carried < 
Kcvcrend Hrelare'i Dinner, upon Preieiioe, that ibc 
lord had oot provided difBciently for then. WhM Rl 
iKz Reverend Prelate met with, or whether }ie applWl 
■ny, I do not know i but be could not recover hit ~ 
and thii iliews what InconvLtiienctei we, ai well ui 
Travcltcrt, may be put m. il ail the Ioo«of utf Uidc' 
we may come to upon the Koad, fbould be IbcraaiaMd 
Soldictt, a* not to be able to furniOl AccoaineditMa 
Eotcriaiomentt'or any Traveller. 

* I Ihall grant. Sir, that whilll we keep fuch a 
Army within the Kingdom, and continue themodeta Fr 
Prsthce of having fome Part of that Army always 
tng and countcrtnarching from one End of the 
to the other, under I'rricnce of what is called cjuni 
Garrironi : I fav. whilll wcdo fo. the Soklieri may . 
nadcr great DiSicultiei with regard to Pruvi&oAa, botk 1 
their Maich, and in tbeir Icit'cd t^irtert. onlcfa ' 
tbcii (^rcers to furnifli them at luch Prk«i, aa thcjrj 
«j8bid to pay; but the moS proper Eipedieai far «« 
ihit JncanvtnicccCt >it in my Opinion, very obviaw. 
i). to fend the gmtell Part of yoor Amy againA the 
my in Time of Wat, and never to keep a greater Mi 
of Troopi within the Kingdom, than an abloharijr 




( 157 ) 

the jud EnJ» «f Goireronctit. I will undcrutce, Anno rt, G«4. 
-" -'e People knew, tbai any Paitof your Army is " iT4o 
ro' the Kingdym, in order [o go smi fight ihe ^b-^'V''^^ 
'-i- Country (hey will frccty and volunurily 
titi with every ihing necffDry upoo iheir 
(iki-/ nre (cfiCbleaF what it mcuicby changiDg 
It, wbkl) in abfolute Goveromeou is iniendcd ^ 

'to prvent the Soldicft Irom :ic(]uiriag »ny Ton of 
hatent to ihl People .nniongit wtiom they live, snd to 
I look up«n thccilclv.->, >a a Body of Mco quite 
i-> ihc Prcp'r, I cannot by, amongfl whom they 
iitQRgt^ uli&m they fojourn; and tbcrcrare, tlie 
hii KmgHoifi Rioll rtiioRibly complain, find re- 
bciB( opprcfToi vf incoitimudcd With the March- 
^ .'oommnarK iiig iit ;!■;,.: i^r Troopt, when iLey 
P, or u leiH im3].-i'<c i( to ue loiended for ftich a dui- 
I »d Muitnry yi'^^ok. 

tbu'', Sii, nuntioned one Expediect. Snd I 
Jy proper £ipnlK.nit ftfi^ prevcniiiig tlie Incva- 
CTimpliinra of, i Impe ihc HonoiirHO'eCeotleinan 
M( beTc^fier fjy, ilui i.iCic ire «n)' Gcnitcnt^n in tbi) 
ifa, wkn iM aln.iv; iiirl iig Objcfli-n* igiiiul every Ex- 
-11 jir..fvijl"Ei, Lot never oB:t 4jiy Rfmedy or 
ur own Cmilemeo have Re:ilon toobjeA 
-' that are apparently worfe thin tK« Dif- 
ktly ivhen the true Keinidy ii obviout ; but u I 
tbat llic Rctncd/ X have now offered will 
t>t by Ofir chjcf State Phyiicians, and am 
Remedy ippliett rithcr than that'now pro- 
olilcrre. (hat ano'.her Remedy baa already been 
ifi (hu DelMir, whtcb I think }efs opprrjrii^e thaq 
U BOW propoled. and which 1 the rather approve of, 
lU it «t made Ufe of foon after the Rcvoi-iiion. A% 
WM u Time. Sir, wl<ich I highly Mpprovc of, I hid for 
i| •■ ftcat ir " * ' '<! tnerefnrr, if ue oiufl keep 

tach a ngo- . Army at we hnve at prefeat« 

■uSkecp iticrn nil j; tluflie tea, I am fordoing I'ooie- 
like what ivai done in the Vckr 1696-7. In that 
' ri has already told os, A 

■ A&. by which ii was 
1, llttt Di/ Itici-lii,;dct ll.ujIJ be oblif^cd lu provide 
firr any Sjidier, if he liioi^ld give hini ^. a Day, 
niJihcUieof his Fire for drefiing hit Meat. 
' new regularly p&id, we hue no Occifioii 
^'V"*K '"' '"" '■•'-■^^cri to advance any Money to ilic 
Ikt* (juarierrd u^cn [bcm, but if there be Dow iti actlo- 
Ncffioy for any titiog lUu what ii cew propoted, I 

tkiak 



!IBu4 



( «5S) 

Anno i4» Ccothink we ought lo giVe an Optkm to Inn-bolJefa* 4 
"ij"* |»rovicJe Viftoiili for fuch Soldicn, at ihc Rice of -iS. 



^•VN^ 




i 



or othrCrwilc to furniQi tbem with Lodging. Caadk, L*t 
ils fardrtiTing their Meat, a»d the Ule of ihcir Pire^ 
nothing 

• ETtnthii, Sir. «%ill be a very grtu HardHiEp upoB^ 
Owners of our Public-hourei; but, 1 ihink, it will be « M 
Hardlhip than rhac of (uhjrfling thrm lu ibc irbicrarf Di 
nund» of the SolJten quirtercd upon them, for wbai tb*] 
may be plcsfed to call ticccITtr)' Provifiooi. How tJuaCi 
pedient will do, or whelhirr it may appear to be fitCcicat III 
reraovrng the Evil conipbiocd of. I do itot knowj bat u I 
ii k Matter of the ocmoil ItnportsDce. I ihitttt DcHlicr ito 
not a.ay other Expedient ougbt to be raOiI}' gunc Intoi (oi 
which Reafon, I think, we ought to take fome Oa)>* (o ce* 
fider of it. and for that Purpofc to adjoorn the Comminm 
There is no NecclCty for imfnediatcly comnKncing a I4W 
Atit) in order to determine (he QueAion l-ilely llactal vpn 
tbii Subject. Jf the Ncccgity for thii Detcnnttutioii cavM 
be removed, by a Diminuiion of our Army, I hope, wi 
Auil in this Houfe h\l upon foaie Mrihod for dcrenniniu 
the QocHion, without fending it lots WcDmioRrr Hat] i (j 
tho' I bcloog 10 Wellminner-Hall, yet I iKall aiwayi be» 

f.inftPeopk's being brought there for deciding any QoiiiM, 
wifh tbey were out (0 apt to come there, at I m thtj 
*n: It might be a Lof) to nie, but it would be a Gats 
xht Nation i and I Hull never dcfirc to incrcafc my P| ' 
at tbe £xpcacc of my Cooouy.' 



Si I. 

■ We axe now about reviving an expiring Law: 
Meaning of that Law, at it Qaiidi at prdett, appean 
deoblful, *t hai been acknowledged by moQ Gcat' 
who hnve fpoke in thii Debate. Lao it admit of a Ddptft 
wlicther wc ought to remove that Doubt, by fomeopUMr 
tory Wonti ia the Bill now before utt Would hMcT 
moil egregious Solecirm for a ;cgiflative AJembly 
a Law which they know to be doubcfal 7 Let at 
what a Number of Ljtw fuiu may be occafioaed be^pecl 
Thnc Twelvemonth Vou cannot, at leafi you oogU 
think, to make a Law with a Rctrofped, and thcreibrt yM 
caonot putiD End lu thcfc t.aw-fu)t». by any new Law nfa 
paffed a Vcar heoce. Tho' you arc the Makeri, jTct yoa ftT 
not by our CoalUiutioa the Inletprrten of the Law: Hi 
Mijefty'* Jodgei in WeAmiolleT-Hall are the latcrpcHlB 
aod they are Iwom to give Jjdgment ia every Okk ik 



nplaa^ 
UtaA 




( ^59 ) 
tfaen. iccording to iht Lawi which were i&Annoi4,GcoL 
I thai Cdfe happened. Suppofe now, jrou diotild '^L'^i^' 
explnining ol ihh Law till next V'ear. and ;oo 
mln bcfurc then be cominenccd upon the Doubt 
aMtigcd to be in ihc Law, the Explartnoo yoa 
I put Upon (ijc law, woold net put a Slop to an}- of tbelb 
h4iiu t bccaurc the Judges might be of Opinion, that 
^'flrds of the Law couU not bear the KxpUnacion yoa 
thetn by a dcw Law, la all Cite* that might 
mdf. they wou^d be obliged to dctcnnine u. 

J (Mr EipUnation ; but in Cafei that had before 
ty would in Conlcicncc be obliged to determine 
j to ihclr own Opitiion, eveo tha* cootrar/ to what 
>>/ /t.-Jt, declatnl to be yoatt. 

heerc, Sir, you miy fee, what a Muln:udf of 

itii may Ix occaiiofted, and what a monfttoui Expencc 

!bc broaght upon the t^uhjtrd by your dcUying to ex- 

snd rrnuTc the Doubt that hath arifen. hat fof one 

Surely it ii our Oucy to prrvcnt Law-luitt. 

u (oon as we un. Tac Trade of a Lawyer. 

iicjoft will ever encou.-agc: and the Tnide too, of 

ig, Alcboale -keeping, ot letailing of Spirhoiu 

[doci not, I think, dclVrve all that Regard whicli 

(bcwo to it in thit Debate. But Oimi'ti we flip. 

thai (key Will always be a.t a great Lofs by furnifhing 

It ^aarteicd upoo thein with Diet and Small-Beer^ 

EC tH fd. a Day, the Lofi will not fall upon them: 

ki Price* they charge t.tey will oblige their other 

ri to make it good i^and therefore, if tbli ImU were 

Lxtkcd on aj a Tax, tt could Doi be confidered ai ■ 

il. Ejr unequal T^*, but a Tax laid apon the whole Peo- 

unI It niudeiibcr be no Tan at all. t»ra Tax ai ncccf* 

faaiay one that wai ever impofcd. 

men may cry, how I bow f and fecm Purprized at 

L Gml ; bjt if they will have a Utile Patience. I 

Iflui^iCgogd, I repeal i: again. Sir, that the obliging 

hJutrpCTi, aod fuch like, lo tumifb Diet and Stnall-Bccr 

"^ ' 'icra quanercd upon them, mull either be no Lots 

Bpo* (heni, or upoti any one elie, or oiherwifie 

: be aa acecibry a Tax at ever wai iiopofed id thii 

aid my Keafo-i for laying To ii thii : If Provi- 

iclMsp, «i they generally aie, that an Ion keeper 

Piei and Snuil-Bcer to the Soldicn qiurtetcd 

^d. a Day, and have a reafoiuble Projit to 

thcob-igiBg htm to do fo, can be no Taj upon 

|«r anr Man elk. Oil the other hand, ifProvlfiona 

teppca at any paruculai Time, oc tn acy particular 

Place, 



TmiD^W, Ceo PU«, » is lo 3ftr, tliit the lBn-k*«pcr cinnet fattltk Dl« 
IL 174O' anil Sonill-Qeer ht the SolJleri qutrurcd upon hiir, U(U 
|^V''\J R»t« of 4*1. a Day, 1 am very Aire, the SoUier wi:i oc 
ibleto fijrnilli Di«c and Small- Beer for himfcif a; reur 
R«ic: brcsuft an Inn keeper who brcwt faji c«:; 
Brer, and buys greai QaantJitci cf \ien it 1 lii&r, ^ 
way* beab'e to Icll ii at a mock cheaper Kam cliiaiiKS»- 
dirr can porchafe it io the fmjil nusntitits he hii cct 
for, or can afford to buy at a iitne. Out tbe< 
more than ^d. a Dty to bcftow upon bimftlf 
Smalt-Bccr, what thrn can he (In i He mull either Uarrc et 
llwl. The former we cannot fuppofe he *ill do ; and j/ « 

{jTCat Part of the Army Ihoold be brought under ihr Nerrf- 
iiy of living by Theft or Plundering, not only ogr CoaflJ. 
tuttoB, but the Prapcity of every Man in the KioHcA 
would theabeintbe uimofi Danger. 

• It hai been faid in thit Detatr. thji if our Soldicri cu- 
BOt live upun 41). a Day. uc mull augmeot their Pay i ktf 
letu^ confider. Sir. ihii in moll P^iti of the Kir}i;dot», mi 
at iroff Times, a Soldier can live upon 4^. a V*y « uii 
it fb'^u'd be piopoUd to proportion c heir Pay, accordJa|l» 
iho Timci. andaccordiagto (be Placet in which they mtf 
berjtWffffe'^. ;hi'. cartint he done by Parliament: l| ndl 
be left (o Mitiiitcri, and this, in my Opinion, wou'd be • 
■oreemeofire and a more dargerooi Power, rhan aoy n* 
lodged in the Crown. There ii, therefore, no other wtjtl 
fubrilltrg your Army, in Time i>f Scaicity, which ii (cl^ 
grnrral, and ntver lall^ long, than by obliging the 0<nm 
«f Public-houlei to furollb ihcni «tcb D>ei anj Snutt ~ 
at fucfa a Rate ai their Pay will admit of. Thit I (hi B . 
ja, in Time* of Scarcity, a fori of Tax upon the 0« 
fuch Hoofri, or rather, as I have la (d. upon their Cull< 
but ai there ii no otfler way o( fubfiiiing your Anaf, i 
fatb Times, il it absolutely ntcrffary. and will ibcrcf 
bope, be always patiently (<jbmit:r(l to 

' Ai for the Eiprdiem found oat in the Year of i( 
it was then made i.-(e c-f. becaofe our I'roopi keu 
Deithcr were, norcoutiJ be regularly paid j for . 
wi:t not be thought, thai the Soldier wairo ha*--: , 
from the Innkeeper, teftdet hii Pay from the Gaverei 
bot at the Army i> now r«gu'arly ,Hid, buth their Sub 
Money and Arreari, we have no tXcafioo forfucb aal 
dient ( will be fiir ftom removin;; the Difficulty sow 
Con6dcr.<tioni for it wiU fignlfy nothing to providl 
and UtenfWs foi a Soldier 10 dicl» his Meatw -'- -*-- 
can get no Meat lo dreft, or none at the Pfi« 
pay Icr i', wbKb will af^n be the Cafe upoaa .\u 




ikrclbrc, in rhe Yent of 1696-.7, ibe Provision in Favour of A.nnoi4,G«>. 
(•a-lio^crs wai not ejctendcd to So'diert upon a Marich ; nor ^'- ^74^^- 
hi^liC it, 1 tbink, oow to be extended to Soldiers, even in the ^/'^''^J 
kkfcf where they are appointed to refide ; bccaufe an Ina> 
holder. Alehouiie-keeper, or Vifluall'.i, can always furnilha 
Sridicr with Diet and SmallBeer at a cheaper Kate than h« 
EH ftraifll himfcif, If lie rehifeb to do fo, it mull proceed 
Imi incrc Otiftinacy, ur from an uncommon Dearth of Pro- 
nfioos : Id tfac ibr^ner CafC, he ought to be compelled ; ard 

■ the laiier, he mull br compttlcd, because there is no other 
Hwj of providing far (be Soldicr'k Sublicence, and every 
SeaiJcBiJD wiJl admit, that while we liavc Soldiers, we mail 
ftttkit for their Sjbdiicnce, in Time ot Scarcity a> well as 

■ Tine of Plenty. In Times of Scarcity it may be a Lofs 
a clw Ifin-keepcr, but, like many o(I>er>, it is a Lofs which, 
ior che fake or the Public, mull necellirily attend the Bufi- 
wbhe follawi, and at no Time it can be a Hardship, becaufe, 
M tbc Soldier 'n fubjcA to Mania! Law, that Law will 
Jaujri nake bim auc only reaibn:;ble, but civil in his Qjur- 



Si K} 

* I in furprizrd to bear Gentlemen To miich as ruppofe, 

due %vy Mu titude of Law-fuits can enfue from leaving this 

AA ia tfac very Words it Hands at prefent, and has Hood for 

hmt Years. For my own Pan, [ do not pretend to any 

ktf Learning in the Law, efpeciatly in the Prnaical Pan of 

Iti and tbenfore I Ihou'd be glad to know, from Tome of 

4Mfc Gentlemen who make that S'udy tht-ir ProfiCion, how 

l^f Biorc than ona law luit could be thi- Confequence of our 

iMnaiatning that Part i>f tliis Law, which i» now faid to be 

IUkmI. U any Suit be commenced fgr having this Q-iel- 

l&termined, it mud be brought, either by the Govern- 

at, by WAV of Information, or by a SoUier, by way of Ac- 

irf the Cife Dpoa the Statute, againttan Innfcefperwho 

^ rcfbfrd lo'furnifti him with Die: and Smal!-Beer, at 

ft Rue of 4d. a Day ; and can we fuppo e, thjt our Go- 

limBent, or rather our rao-t excellent Minillers, w*ou!d be 

^matk)U4, as to bring feveral Informations, or to allow the 

lUieis to bring Several Aflions, when one would be as Tut 

Jeat Bftfire buodred, for deciding the Question in Difpuic, 

m for preventing all farther Doubt. Whatever Opinion 

'ftoBOunble Ceiitieman who fpoke laft may have of our 

Mien, [ am far from having fu bad an Opinion of them t 

' tfeerefbre, if we fhuuld Jeave this Qiietlion undecided, 

ifce Army fliouIJ infill upon iu being decided by a Suit at 

av, X an convinced, no tn*re tkin one Law-fuit could 

Vol. vu, y *««» 



^mg,.Q^rrom ih«nce enfiie: an J t be Event of that Sjit. I belicTC. 
11. (740. o'jr lQn-k«p?rs luve no Rnfon to be ifniii of, becuiiel 

V/V^S^ cuinot think, ihst a Law, which (impi/ obli£« me to it- 
ccive a M&a idio my llouCr, <ud be fuppofei by anjr hnptt- 
flat Man in the Kingdom to oiein, that 1 fhouid be dtugi 
lifcfvvik to maintain hira. 

• But, Sir, if it (houM be determined otbrrwife t If flir 
JtidgFt fhou'j be uf Opinion, (hat the L&w, u It now Ainti, 
obligrs Inn keepers and oiheri to furnilh thcSuldicft qsU' 
trtcH upon ihcm, with Diet and Sniatt-Bcer, ut the Ran >f 
4d. i l)3», 1 ftiooM then be for altcfing the Lawai (ooait 
polViblc! becaufe, 1 think, it »ould hy imoftgrrer^ 
apon the Owners of all our Public-haurc;, a Tax wh. 
they could not recover From their Ctiftomcn, and » lu 
whJcIt t think ablolutely unnecelfiry. The fnmilhiBK of 
Soldiert with Lodging and Ifouferoom ii of ttfclf fo iroaUc- 
lomcia lon-ktcperi, that m^ny of them give the Sotdicna 
Shilling or Rightfen-pcoce a Week, lo be esriiTly ndti 
(heir Compnny } ind if you (hould further oblige Innkt^ 
erk lo furnifli the Soldiers with Diet and Small-Iksr, Ii> 
perfuaJrd, molt uf our Inns would be glad to give t&c Set- 
aicn Half a Crimn or I'Jirce Shillings a Week, to firondt 
(hemfclvc} fgtnewbrre clfe, rather ihaa have Cudomenid 
T«vel!eri bmiftied away f'Cm their Houfe, by teetag i:iJ- 
wiyt roll of Soldicri. 

* Thii. Sir, will be & moft infuilerable Burden upoaiU 
Fablic- boafes ; and to fuppofe, that thii Lofs would be fn^ 
good by tbeir riiGog ihcir I'ncci to their Cuftomcn. n ic- 
pofing igairli RrAfon and Evpetience: they ORtiM taM 
the Price of any Ltcjuori ihcy tell, which is ihe prtacwl 
P^rt of their Prtiit> i and if they Ibould make tbcm wwfc< 
no \\±a would come to purchaic or drink thera. Etcs m 
to Eatablci, the Markct-Pncc ii fo well known, thai |k| 
would be look'd upoo as Extortioners, if they deoundal a 
greater Proht than ulual, which H-ould of courlc makcdl 
ibeir Ccltemcri forfake the Hcufc i and 1 believe it «4 
aot be (aid, that, even in the Timet of the gteatrfl f^mlf, 
a PuStic-houi'e could Tupport itfclf u|K]n the Pic^ita madi tf 
tlic Soldier: <]aariered upon it. 

• Now. Sir, witb rcganl to theNeoeffity of iinpo£flg^ 
Burden or Tax upon the OMneri of ihcic Hnal'ci. whof 
Soldieisflteby Law allowed to be qusrterrd. the HoB-J3Ti!i» 
Gentleman has, ] thiolc, given us but two Realur 
and both of them I tike to be without Foaadatioo. 
T hat the 0*-fieri of iuch Houfci may boy cheaper i ! 
dltri can: It there any Fcu.-d;rioii for laying io i i 
a SttUlicf buy at cheap a; M^ikct u hU luHotd on t' 




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Cre or fix of ibcm join togethet. it they uTuall/ do, Anno 14, Ceo 
-- '-T-- 1 Urge a Joint of Meat, or as great a *^ ^7^- 

K.iia commor Houfckceper doea Jor V^>''V^^ 
j<r. uic/ will buy cheaper for ihemlelves, iliaii 
llsnl can lor them ; We luiow wtui a Difference 
-a ths Piicei of different Jointi of the Came 
r bc'.wcen the Icreral Spcc'Ci of llie finiQ 
c; r.'o^ifiost. Wbcn Soldicu buy for ihemfclvei, 
Will be cuntentnl with the coarfdl and cliMpell futl* 
^fdetr LindJord buys lor ihem, tbc/ will iqfilt upon 
[ itvc fincO ud dureti. 

Rc^on iiligiicd by tbe Hooograble Gentle. 

'■^'vceAity be pitidt for, », that in Tunes of 

- iniioi lubfin upon 4x1. a I>ay, and mull 

1 by bi^ Landlord at that Fricr^ bccaufe 

iiiuic. Buih chcfe Fa£U,Sif, I deny. There 

chat I know of, fucb a Scarcity in England, 

I make tt im{:)c(rib!c iM a \!;in to rubfill upon ^d, a 

At contented bunfcU with the coarldt fort of Pro- 

il bat the Truth of the Miitter, I believe, ii, tbe 

able Gcnilcman anJ hit Knenils h.v£ a Mind, thai 

Tiair:^ of S^rcuy Soldiert Ihould feed ai delicately, and 

aj well, 11 ibey cin do in flmei of tbe grcaiell Plenty: 

tra* 1 am for their being ai;tdc feoftlile of the DiArdTei 

CoQtitry 1 likmvile deny. Sir, that a Soldier can 

,H> Borc that) ^ri. a Day for Diet ami 3maIl-Beer. It 

'-'"vwn, tCiA! (bcSoldieriiiiOJr Marthing-Kegi- 

6i. a Oay by the Govemincnti and why 

ft^i .iiij.d bewiih-hcld from a poor Soldtei's Pay. I 

oo Reafor, aaler> it be, ihit the Colonel ilioa]d 

Inch a proniable Contract, as to get 1000 or ijool. 

clmtdtng hu tlfgimeot. aod that all the poor FrUow» 

appear dean fliavcd, and wcU po«.deied at a Re- 

roriay Part, I think a Man wiibout any Powder in 

Kur. and even with a long Butd, may look ai like a 

r. and do hi'. BuGner'^ ai well, ai a Mm with a Smock 

.aod powJcrcd Locks: and iheirfore t intifl think, 

late Veari, our Army lia^ been dcligacd nthcr to 

Ladies, than to kill [he RncniKi of ibeir Country : 

Reatbn. I am of Ot-inion, that if oitr Sokiirrt 

po: te oo greater Expcnce than Is Abfolutely necefTtry 

'ib«ir appcanng like Sotdicn, and oot like Beiui. a So\ 

cvm of a Marching Kegimcni might fpite ;J. a Day 

~}iiet and Sntl1-B<et ; an«l with rrfpr^l to the Soldiers of 

t-Gaatdt, aa they are paid Bd. a Day by the Go- 

rfit, I am farpnzed to hear it fomuch ai iDftouated, 

II tbe/ caawt fpuc above 4d. t pay for Diet and Small- 

Y a Bctrj 



Anini4,Gco ItMr ; yrt no D'fft'rfnn ii. [ SncI, to be mnic hetvtt 
i^-t'iO Sij.lAieTi of Marching RegtipfnM. find thofe rf ihc 

^^yy'^S^ Guard*, tho' the liticr on ccfWrnlj' ■•ford Top«T 

Diet anJ SnuU Cecr th-in tbc ritmer; pw) thu' tht 
■re grtirrally ([uattercd in WcHtniniirr. ird abom L 
where Houfc-rent and Provfiops are ji'waj** drarcf 
Country Pbcf!, or Ciliej lemew fiom l-ordofi. 

' Tt'm. Sir, I hope I b»ve (hfwn, ttiat, bj- tht 
nowftlTrred, » nnoft lusvy tdjiitonal Tax wottJ be '>fi 
the Ovtnersof our PubMC-hewfci t thm it t» i Taji 
ihey cciuid not oblige iKeir Cuftom«rs to besr any 
^nd ibxc it ii X mw vn^KritAr\ Tax. beotule S-^Wie 
provide (or ibcmfclvci not only in 'I'lme* of Pler'ty 
}a Timei cf Scarcity, uniefi (h«t Scarrin' ft^u'd be (t 
extra<irdinary, a* h»* feMom or never h-ifperrd, awl 
not thertfoK to bt msJc a F-undtiion for x 
flarding Re£ulo('on, which wil H all Tinvf j be 
upon a grwt Part of ttic People, and vhich miy ff 
ditninifh the Nitmber of o«r PuV'Iichottfe^, (o t» t* 
ihr Building of Birrtcki. or the Quartering of 5l 
ppon private Hotifet, abTolotely ntccffjr^.' 



Sis, 

• As mi»ft of t!;c ArgomenH made t'fe of igJii 
Oauff, now cffcrrd toyoo. htvc bern foonded npm , 
pA^lion. th;ittbe t^w, «5 it AaikJi St pre'cnt. doc* POT 
Irr-krepCf} and other*, upon wkrtm SoWitri taijr h 
fully quarcrcd, to 'urniHi tbrm wi»h Diet and Smalt 
I (hall beg leave to ftew you. thtt the Ijw i»ott>»Twi| 
ifcac what ti BowcRtrrd, h nothing but art Eip'aratwi 

'Enfcrcnneni of what ha» been I jw ever fjott we Km 
tft Aft ai 4 \furtny-Af* in ihi» K'tigHom. 

• Sir, in o^drr to iii>d om oe Mr4ning of the Ijali 
pow [l;ind», we murt not look to ibc (,''■'"*<: •'ff nhtij-ti 
Owner* of Put'ir-hoofe* (ii rtctire the So'd'*''' Ut 
quarreled Dp^n thefn, b^'Caufe iha( Claofir wu but l«tc 
ffodtind, and mart be e»:p'a'n«) by the ether C'aii'r* 
Bill ; twt He mutl ronfidrr what was aniienily nKanr 1 
Term Qu4iicrin|;[ and if wr eonOder what wu lal 
(ncant by Qdartettng. wc m"H conciude.ihar the Owi 
privare Hoiife*, « well s» public, were obliged to (um 
noldicn quifterrd upon thrip wiib evtiy thin* nK 
accordtng m tf.ttte Rutei which were prefcrtbrJ h 
Ctommiiwcr» cf the Troop* lo qmrremJ. Sefore tl 
(tont:Ot>. we b^d no Tuch '1 hing a an Armv. or any f 
froof*, bin in Tifsc of War; and (hen, i bclicrc, " 



Geo. 



( 1^5 ) 

Cttmri, tk« the Commanders wert the only Jo<Ige5,Anno i4t<S< 
• fN- • -^" Ti were to Iw treatctl by thofr upon whom *'■ *740. 

tend. If rhcy twd reidy Money wfacre- t-rV^*-' 

IMS. 'u ^-t> uirir SoMien, ihey generally ordrrtd tbem to 

K^f Munry for whii ibey had i but if they could not 

•f Urtr Si>!dKTi. ihe Perfons upon wliom they were quar. 

>«<r«itien ob!>[;fdi()rurni(h thrrrit nut only with Lodg* 

|. Nnalfo w>[h D'c: and Small Bccr. and to bring :hcir 

n !■ to ttic Public, in order lo receive SatiifaOion. 

M tht Pn&ice in 'I'lm; of War, before the Reftora 

: II wc brgm focn nficr thm Period to keep regaUr 

is continuil P^y, and ai the Ofiictra of ihtfe Troopi 

i» ta pf*/ltre in Time of Peace, whnc had been r^rmrrly 

' ' m rill)'' 'if War. iherrfbrc, toward* ihe latter End 

\ikfit Ch'i-!^ I I'i'i Reign, that Law which has been men- 

'[HI* maJe, by which it war cnaAed, " Tint So'dieri 

I'^Crrr^l Upon any Houlc whnit'oevei. without 

'wrCT." Kroro the Revolbiion to the 

" .1 wjf in a S»te of War, and prob.->bIy 

■ yoierved; butiheTrarquillity of the Na- 

I- f reilorcd, a new Law wa» made for regu- 

[Qaarteting of SoMien, and for confiinnK tc wilh- 

legal Bouuli. without leaving it id the PilVretioQ 

lilUary Oi&i€t whitfocver. 

tUi Liw, Sir, tlw Coaltubleand other Ciril 0<F- 
l*ncrini«)wetcd to qnnner or billec Soidienupon Pub> 
I, khJ uffin ihem only, and thertrfore had the bme 
kied ihcRiby Law, which the eomtnflndingOfnrcra 
^roept had furtncrly affumcd agiiinfl I^w ; that il to 
t^ br ikeir b>:irting of Soldien upon Public houfei, they 
iR R'ght to in&llBotonly upon I^ging, but upon 
I Smati tirrr, tor what they could aAbrd for it out of 
. . il'thcy received oo Pay, then the Hoofirs 
were quartered were to keep an Account, 
Actnunc* in to the Puhl^c, in order to re- 
: and to prevent all Dil'puiei between the 
laoo ifctir IjinJIordi, the Jullice* of the Peace were 
[■ttd rmpowered to feiile the Raieiof all tuch Provi- 
I wcrv fjraifbcd by the Laodlordi. I'hat thit was tbe 
r-1 ;tif.:p, who fifll gave the Ccnfbblci a legal 
eri: That by tiuariering ihcy intend- 
I have Lniertatnmcm, as well at Lodg- 
.;re iJiey were (o qu-utered. i*. I think. 
iing that Power to Public-tiourcs only ; 
iaa imended, ihit Soldier* (hnuld have nothing 
jiog. at the Houfe were ihey were quartered, they 
ruiplj IviTe given the ConfUblc Power to quarter 
' froldieri 



( i66 ) 

Annoi4.Gro.SoldiersaponaII Houfes that Icit Lodgiogi, 81 weU » opw 
IL 1740. Inn-keepers, ViAunllerf, aud other fuch Houres. Aid tin 

V.^^^'' ^^ CUufe inferted in the Mutiny A&, pafled id the Yctr 1(961 
makes it evident, that it was then fuppofed, that tlic Owica 
of Public -houles were by the Law, as it ftood before* ofalifri 
to farDifh the Soldiers with Diet and Soiatl-Bcer i for if um 
had not been fuppolcd, there would have been no Occafin 
for inferting a Claufe, •< That Innkeepers QioalilDMhl 
obliged to provide Meat, or any other Vidiuls, for any 8a^ 
dier legnlly quartered upon them, it they Ihou-d giveor M»- 
der to fuch Soldiers 4d. a Day lor their SubfiOcDoi in Mnt 
only, befides Candle, and the Ulc of their Fire for dlcfiM 
Meat." 

• How that 4d. a D.)y w.>s to be repaid to the Iaa-ke» 
en, who did advance it to the Soldiers, 1 do not know i M 
there is no C'aufe in the AA for ordering or regulating thi 
Repayment of it ; but even fuppofe it was duly and regibriy 
repiid, it was harder upon tlie Inn-keepers, than wblil 
now propofcd i and yet I never heard, that it diminiflwd ikt 
Number cfour Public-houles, or that any Inn-kccperor 
Vifluallcr gave up his fiufincls upon that Account 1 m4 
therefore, if the lamo Claule were to be revived, we (hoiU 
have no Reafon to apprehend any fuch Confequeooe fnm JL 
But, as our Army it, now regularly paid, we havenoOoafiw 
to oblige the Owners of Publichoulies to advance aay ll» 
ney to the Soldiers quartered upon them, or 10 giwaf 
long Credit to fuch Soldiers, They are now, they baisiv 
fevcral Vears been, obliged to receive the Soldier! lawMlf 
quartered upon tlicm, In this Claufe, the Word lecHH 
mull certainly relate to, and be explained by the Vmi 
quartered ; ard if by quartering be meant the fomilbi^rfft 
Soldier with Diet and SinaiNBeer, as well as Lodging) tkl 
Owners of the Houfes where Soldiers are lawfully qoaneid^ J 
•re already by Law obliged to do fo. In this Scnfe the Ur i 
has been always, til! very lately, interpreted : itboiforaH i 
ny Years been the Cuilom to furnifh the Soldiers with DiK ; 
and Small-Beer, as well as Lodging, at the Hoiiki lAo* ': 
they are quartered, and at fuch Rates as they were able W ; 
pay. This, 1 Ly, has for many Years been a continued 0^ 1 
torn ; and a Cultom founded on Law makes Law: Acidly 'i 
Culiom is the beA Interpreter of Law, and fometinci MDi 
Meanit:g upon the Words of a Law difierent from wW< . 
iirlt View they Teem to bear. 

* This being the Cafe, Sir, what are we now to do I 1h| 
are not tosltenfae Law, or to cJlabliOiaDy new RrgnlttiM. 
we arc only to explain and enforce what has been Law fcr i^ ' 
moft thcie forty Yean; and this we arc uUiecd todo^ fc|fci 





( i<S7 ) 

)mc P*oplc have b«n lately picifed lorsife. Annou,Gc6. 
It any Found ition, in order to prcvcni People's U i'«o. 
ICnfeivc* to L«w-futia and Penaltici } for by ihe L/~V*\J 
iiAadt t»w, the Owner of « Pablic-hoiile ihac jc- 
fhrc aoy Soldier Uwfally quaiiercd upon him, ii 
by the Juiticei, io a, Sum not excelling ;). nor 
■ad conrrqucntly, if by rectiving be meant the 
H of fnch Soldter with Lodginv. Diet aoC Small- 
■ ft Day, every I Rnfcccpcr ibai iD'iIl refufe to do Io, 
Bni'lfro tbat Penally, and the JufUcet niui\ line 
^K SsMtcr urany ocber rerfuo cotnei to make the 

lull jrui. Sir, thxc thU Doobi, whicb kai been To 
Icflly ntfcd. niighl be determined by one Gogtt Law- 
U. IB the mnn Inne, 2 great Number of People 
[nfclret to the Penalties of the Law, and 
■-f the Quefiion 10 Dirpiitfl w-ouM not free 
am L£Qi£ J'ccaltici. but on Che contrary wojid ca. 
I I**opIc Io prnlcctrt*. S'jppofe a LaW'finc wer« 
•- Idfl-kceperthac hxd nfiCed to fur- 
V quiiicrcl LpoD him. with Otettnd 
Ikt it B LtiQi^i » Day i tltnt Ijtw-j'uit cou'd nm in 
Hkuki be brought 10 1 ConLiufDn 1 iii the mna 
^^^Ktier (nn-ketr^er) wouM refute in the fame 
^^^Bb^-I^ Mt:i trr?pf to tsifik tbenirdvcB in the 
ft* ' tfio Qucllion in DifptUe will be de- 

Id :. ^ Then litppofc chit, upon the E- 

'iUi Lao'uii. iilltould bedciermtned, th^t Inn-keep- 
1" Uhcrt me tiv the Tjiw, II It Ftaodi ac prrfcr^t, cb!i- 
. .juQi'tered upon them , with 
- , . :, .j ; J u -> , Bod thai every Man who 
clf lothe Penalty of thp Law. which, ai t 
. .... w be impo.ed by »ny one Jallicc of the 
13m the Complaint i» Blade, of 40^. orfonie 
(r-"'f- ■- '.! Ill this (..'afc, every Inn-keep- 
■■ity, bad lefiiled to rurnlfh the 
' Sim. with Oict and Sitiatl- 
' /, aiwl to be pc^etuled for 

fiocii heoccfce. Sir, what a Nombcr of Profe* 
WOttldocaiiAn; for. si thit Complaint mighf be 
by iheSoWier. or by any other PeifonwhAtfo- 
the Juiifcr ' 00 :i fitU Proof^ tnuft 

M IttUI 401. « Pt J t:*fum1y be brought 

ttrry Man tbit hiid tiitucrci^ :he PM»lty, cither by 
l^itT that had been rernred wii«t be had by I.tw a 
ludj «r by fomc cnviont Nrtghbui ' 1 








sir }aha 

Ihttiuird. 



F.fta. 



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Tradefman. f therefore tliiok, thai what h now 
cannot JO Charily be ztfuito. in onter to prevent Ptop-i 
exp&fing tbemlelve* lo Ptoa!tic«, wtiich, in aiy OpmiM,' 
WbuldcbflAJalr be recovctcd &£uall ittcjit.' 

Sir John Baroanl. 

Sir, 

• The Hoflodfable Gentlemen who have appeared •• 
Advocaiei far iKn. Claulc, l«eni to Ukw i gfc«( Co«cas 
lor preventing tne People'* involving liierolcivrt m Liw 
iaiui iod I mull (kf, they are taking a very tScAvi 
Method lot doin£ ii ; for if whtil tbey yropotc OmbM ; 
into R Law, the People that arc to be aSrAtd bjr k' 
^oon have noibtrg to contend Tor, which, I fti:>B 
mod <9e^ual Method for preventing iheir bcmg mi 
anjr Law-luu «Utev«r. When the People are ult 
done, I fliall admit, that ibis Clautc Mill have ihe 
preventmg their being afirrwardi involved in any t. 
bvt lilltticti, it tvilt have a quite con;r3ry \iihAi bot H 
oblige ibc Owners of Pufalic-hDutes to fumifh lb« S9V 
quaricrcd upon them with reakinable Ptovilioai, or ' 
£)iri xtxd Smitl-Bcer. untfer any Penalty 10 be recovend 
tbjxoncor oiore Jullktto/ibe P^wc, ihcte will be pcrpctari 
Difputct between them about <*hat i» called ■■■ > :. Ynfti' 
ftoas, or realooaiile Diet and SniaD-Bccr. i ;t wiU 
carry bi» Complaint before Tome Jullicc wkoR-> he knowi m 
be in hii Intcrelh The Jullice will probably liixibc LAAdl«di 
and the Liter willccrtamiy leekReltcf aga ofi wluthetkiiJD 
an unjuft Senirncc, either by Appeal to ibcQunttnSctfMi, 
or (erne trorc opcntivc Method. Thui, bir, thr 1 

of our Public -boufei will at Ull be ui up, cither by tu . 
Jicn or tbo Lawyerai and till then, the CUuls now fM* 
poled ivill create, iollead of pieveniing Ijw Suin. 

* Thii, Sir, will ccruioly be the Cuiirequcnce.if yoallf 
lan-lueperi and othcrt under an rxprcfi Obligaiiun taki- 
niO) ibe Sotdirtt qturteted upon tbcm with Diet arnl Small- 
fiecrat4d a D.iy. Without any luch Obligation ilifv vil 
alwayi do (o, when the Sotdicrt ate contend wuh t^ 

be Jurnifiied at that Price; they will evco futniGi 
more, or better than whAt can be aAbrded at that i 
order to make the Soldiers oify in their Quarter*; ^ 
Soldier will be latiif'-ed with what hU La&illord pru* 
him, brcaufe he koowi, his Landlord lien under r.c t. . ._,■ 
lion to prvvide for him, and that he cannot pr(>v Je to* i s^ 
felf lb well i hot ifyou lay the Lantilord undrr an exptsi 
ObtigaAon, he will never be able to f^tjify the Sotdien qM- 
tcrtd upon bijo, ualcla be luuu bimklf by ptOMdisg !■ 




( i69 ) 

great iti) hcinr (ban on be alTcinlcd for the Price Anoo i4,Ceo^ 

unil liicD, tad ihui he mull be ruined ^^y^'^^^ 
V £'*"■;; iiic Soldteri much more thin he cm afibrd, 
!i to prevent tlictr Compbin::, or \if giving hii Mo- 
LkWTcn for defending him againlt theje CumpUtno. 
KK Uicitfofc beTsiJ, ihic ihiiCUufe it calculated ^or 
Iteg l^w-fuilt.and it itfoDtethirg very lUaogc toUy, 
lui it saw picpofed u not lo grc:ie a Hardfliip n\ lite 
moAed IB the Year 1696-7. I hope the learnd Gen- 

doca not think, tfaat the iMocey then advanced by 

rpen w» never icpsid: If tbit be iai'ilUd on, the 

lutiviifl be rend, ia order 10 fee whether there wai 

(d »hat Provifion for the Repaytneni o( that Money ; 

H!I tto:, ] believe, be infiAed on : The whole ^vas cct* 

tbc Government as foon ai poffible, and de- 

e Pay due toihe refpe^livc Regimeoi*. Bj 

• 'ore, the Landlofd only lay oat of bii Money 

. :..;c, but loft BO Part of the Principal: By what 

prspoI'Dd, he ii to be obliged to furoidi Piuviiiom to 
lifier) lor 41). « Day, which colt him perhaps 6d. or 
that Lc wiUcercaialy loft 50 or looftr Cm. of hii 
«] Money ; and chti without (o mach u a Hope of 
I the Infl Advantige, CaDtbi), Sir, be fa id to beibe 
midlbip i U it pcfilble fur any Man zo think (0 f 
lull gntkt. Sir, that Inn-keepert have generally pro- 
H* tbe Soldiers ^luirieied upoo them, at luch Pricet at 
■ere ible to pay 1 but I was furprized to hear the 

'^ "- >min fny.that thi» Praflice made Law. The 
rfj of Record may lometimei make Irfw : X 
i; 11 ^fncTtlly look'd uponai fuch when it Aas coo- 
tie lime (or a very long Time i but wiU <t be laid, 
|e PnUice between a Landlord and bli iroMier cm 
ttke Law .* It ii ac prelenc t Praflice, and i: tut long 
li Caftoata Seuthnurk, among [bore who keep Live- 
Mr*, to f'** the [)tagr>ooj quA'tered ti"! (Hem fo 
iWetfci'. ■■rabljng*:' '^heit 

WiU an) .1111 thit ['[ .^.ot 

B Ovmcri ol tiicic S;ablei at i.i>w ai)lij;cd ii> do ia i 
'rriftimg of Sn''i'eti with Diet and Small- l>eer haa 
by the Inn-keepert. beomfe ihey were able ' 
1 ; thik Clau{« you wiU put an End to the Prac- 
fattiic yoa will tender tt impoiTibfe lor tben to do fo 
PBBift]t tbcmiclvei. 

R> niX ;irctend, Sir. to be a Lawyer, bvt \ have con- 
with fome tbal atv, and from them I have often 
ibat rcatl SCBtuei are to be ilri^ly intcrprttcd : if fo, 
vli Z I 



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( 170 ) 

Anno 14, Geo I am fure no Court ia the Kingdom would think itfcU em* 
'i-N/^ powered to fine an Inn-krcper, for not furnifliing Dietud 

^-^^f^*^ Small-Bccr to the Soldiers quartered in bis Houfe, by Viitae 
of that Claufe which inBids a Penalty upon thpfe that ilttll 
refufe to receive a Soldier lawfully quartered or billetted npM 
him. Even fuppofe it {hould be hcreiifcer determined, upu 
the Event of a Law-fuit, that receiving, mean;, fariiiQui| 
with Diet and Small-Beer, which lam perfuaded it never will, 
yet no Judge. I believe, would venture to fine a Man npN 
luch a forced and ^r-fetchcd Conlliuflion, efpecially if tke 
Refulal had preceded that ConllruAion's being put uptHi the 
Word by any proper Authority. We have thercfon i* 
Caufe to fear, that a Multiplicity of Law-fuits or pFofat- 
tioni will be the Confequence of our refuilng the Ctaifa 
nowcffered ; and if the Lawlhould be left fludingaa itim 
prefent, I believe, the Innkeepers have ai little Rcafbatv 
fear, thar, upon the Event of a Law fuit, the QaeftioD tnB 
be determiaed agaioA them. But if it fliould, it would tin 
be high Time to alter the Law ; for it would certainly bt 
very hard co give the Soldier a Power of obliging hii Laa^ 
lord to furnifh him at 4.d. a Day when Proviuons happen M 
be dear, and a Liberty to fiirnilh himfetf when ProrifioM 
happen to be cheap. 

I Ihall admit, Sir, that it may {bmetimei be very hard fa 
Soldiers to live upon 4d. a Day, and, as Things are aanf- 
ed, I believe, they have very little more to fpend. M 
fucb Times they mult concent themfelvei with cotrfe Fm, 
Bat at all Times they may fubfill upon 44. a Day. Tkf 
generally do at a much cheaper Rate, becaufe half a Oo- 
ZCQ or a Dozen of them ufualiy mefs together, and hlf 
large Quantities of Provifions at a Time. The Maiiaa 
did fo at Southampton ; and there, I know, they fobfiflBl 
themfelves plentifully for left than 4d. a Day, tho' thK 
Country is far from being tbecheapeft in this Kingdom, aor 
was that a Time of any extraordinary Plenty. I can then* 
fore fee no NecefiKy for the Claufe propolod, which I aki 
to be a new and a very extraordinary Regulation ; and ai I 
think it Ihould fLbjc^ the Public houfes in the KiagdoBli 
great Hardlhip.*, and might be made a Handle for deftrof 
ing the Lioenies of the People, I mull give my Ncgatin k 
its being made a Part of thii Bill. 

D. 

Sir, 
* As I was in the Service in King Wi!Ii.im*s Reiga, n 
very well remember the Circumllanccr< tt.'^ Aim\ nu i 
when the Mutiny .\ti, which has been fo often nwnuaai 



( I70. 

■ dui Debate, WIS paiTed, ( think it incumbent upon me Anno 14, Geo. 

B p>c foa the Reafoo for inferting that Claufe, which gave ^^- >7f<^- 

nOptian to Inn-keepers to furni^ the Soldiers qu^ircered 

^Aem, with Diec and SmiU-Bcer, or to pay them 4d. 

iDgr. Id ihit Reign, Sir, the Government wjs far from 

hnv fe fliiQ) of Money as it has been fince. The Revolu- 

tin Riflg in iti Infancy, there was but very little public 

Cnfrt for People had not forgot the fhutcing up<cf the 

^Khqner io King Charles's Reign ; and therefkfre, even 

■fcrtliePu'tianieni had granted a Fund, it was very dilKjulc 

IB honw Money upon it, fo that the Government was ver/ 

oAnwithout Money, and our Tro3ps here at Home were 

wHBun for (everal Months without Pay. 1 remember 

ikeRcgiaicnt I was in was called up to London upon the 

Afifinaiimi Plot in the Year 1696, when we had been for 

•i|bMonthi without any P^y, and at lafl wc were paid in 

Kicbeqaer-Bills, which it was very d.fficult to get changed 

woUoBCf, in order to divide it among the Soidicrs. 

' I do not know, Sir, what the Meaning of the Law was 

U tks TiiDCi or what it is now, for the Claufcs relating to 

Ac Qninering of Soldiers are now p'etty much the fame 

Aej «rre then ; but I very well remember, that the Houfei 

■poo which we were quartered, never refufed to furnifh the 

SoUien with Diet and SmallBcer, and it was then abfo- 

Inriy Bccefliry they (hould do fo, becaufe the Soldiers, and 

cmoatiy of the Officers, had no Money to go to Market 

*iik,aDd could not therefore provide for themfelves. But 

>■ Uny of the Inn-holders found great Inconveniencies in 

finiUng and dreffing ViAuals for the Soldieis, efpecially 

*^ ikey had their tloules crowded with other Company, 

'^u this ojcafioned lome Murmuring, the Parliiment re- 

w^nl to give them all pofTiblc Relief, and for this Purpole 

I^Claule was inferted, which gave an Option to the Inn* 

ko'Jtr, either to provide Vifluals for the Soldiers, or to give 

l^a fd. a D*y to provide for themfelves, If they furnilhfd 

Vifiuli they brought )n each refpeflivc Man's Account? if 

ifco gave Money, they brought in an Account of what they 

M advanced, and to whom ; all which Accounts were fct- 

M by the Commanding Officer, before the Regiment, 

Tnop, or Company left the Place where they quartered, 

■d thcfe Accounts became a Debt upon the Government, and 

WfC reckoned as Part of the Regiment's Pay. But it cannot 

c fud that the Inn-holders loll nothing by this Method j for 

w Money they advanced wai fometimrs a long while b^-. 

«c >C was repuid ■ and as the poor Inn-ho!ders could 

X alwayi w&it fo long for their Payment, they were often 

iliged to (ell their Demands upon the Government at a 

Z 2 very 



( 17*') 

Anno i4,CiCO.TO7 great Difcount , wbich is far from being the Cale at 
II. I740. prefenl. 

L^^^%J * Having thus, Sir, given you an Account of the Ciicna- 
ftancesof the Army, and of the PraAice in King Willtua*i 
Time, I mofidefire, that GcnClemen would conUer whatai 
Inconvenience woiitd enfae, if it Aould be fuppoled. that H 
Inn-Iteepcr ii obliged to furDiOi Diet and Smalt Beer to A» 
Soldiers quartered opon him, and if, at the iame Time, « 
fliould, by any Misfortune or Accident, be reduced to<he Ctr> 
cumflances we were in during King Willian'B Re'^ : Ii 
that Reign if Inn-keepers had fuppofed they were not obli- 
ged to furnilh the Soldiers with any Thing but Honle-rDOfll 
■nd a Bed, I am fure, the Troops, kept here at home, mdt 
cither have ilarved, or lived by Plunder ; and as public Cre- 
- dit is of a very pr:carious Nature, we fiiould be extreoielf 
cautieusof cllaolifh ng or propagating an/ Maxim thatwodi 
be atienctcd with great Inconveniences, and even Danger, tl 
cafe our public Credit Qiould fail to, ai to make Jt impoftb 
for our Government to pay the Troops kept at home paic> 
tually and regularly. 

* What the Lawyers may mean, Sir, by Quarten, I la, 
no Judge of ; but among Soldiers we generally meaabf 
Quarters, the Place where we are to have both Bed iM 
Board for our Money, in cafe we find it neceflary to iiit 
upon having both; and when we are fent to live npM tif 
Country, without being obliged to pay Money for what «• 
have, we call it Free Quarters, which is certainly a raf 
great Oppreflion, and is feldom praAifed, but in an Enemy's 
Country i but I cannot think it any great Oppreffion H 
oblige thofe, who keep Houfes of Entertainment, to eats- 
tain Soldiers, upon their paying duly for what they havi : 
It is really ab(oIutely nccelEiry upon many Occafioni, b^ 
caufe Soldien are often quanered round a Couotry. fo tht 
many of them are far from any Market- Town ; and u tbey 
mufi be always at their Quarters, and ready at a Oil. it it 
impcffible for them to repair daily to the next kbrjts- 
Town, to buy Provifions for themfelves. Upon a Maidh 
too, it will often be impoHible for the Soldiers to provide Ar 
themfelves ; and therefore, the providing far Soldiers onm 
a March, was made an Exception to the Option aUowcal* 
Inn-keepers by the Law in 1696. 

* A« to the Inconveniencies and Dangers we bave beea 
fiighten'd with in this Debate, ihey do not at all affeA oa^ 
becaufe I take them to be all chimerical. Even BariKkii 
which are here made (uch a Bugbear of, arc not in the led 
fi ighiful to me, tho* I h%ve as great t Regard for the Libcttk 
of my Country as any Gentleman in this Houfe. I conld un 



( >73 ) 

teurt kow Kirracks can be thought inconfiAent with Annoi4.Geo. 
berdcf of the People) for an Army of true £nglifh will II- 1740. 
xdugeroui to Liberty, whether in Quarters or in Bar- L/'StN-V 
ttd aa Army of Foreigaera woultl be 11 dangerous to 
fia Qoarters as they could be in Barracks. I'he only 
■ce is, that an Army in Quarters is much more ia^n- 
liad troublelbme to the People, and the Soldiers not 
f kept to their Duty, as when they are in Barracks ; 
stfare, not only as a Friend to Uifcipline in the Ar^ 
cas a Friend to the People, I Oiould chufe to have our 
lalwayj lodged in Barracks, when there is no Occa- 
rkaving them in a Camp. But the People of thia 
n lUTc been taught to alTociats the Idea of Bar- 
Lid Slavery fo clofe together, that, like Darkncfs and 
itil, tbo' there be no iNIanner of Connexion between 
yet they cannot feparate them, nor think of the 
ilhout cbinking at the lame Time of the other. In 
I it was the fame, when Barracks were Jtril ere£led 
The People coofidered Barracks as the moil hideout 
I that could bethought of: they imagined they were 
B downright Slaves as foon as thefe Barracks were 
I yet now, they are perfeAly rccanctled to them, be- 
liiey find they are rather more Free than they were be. 
ad the Troops much lefs troublefome to them. 'And 
icks were erefted in this Kingdom, I am convinced 
■icqneace would be the fame: The People might be 
. I little at firft ; but they would Toon find themfelves aa 
before, and much left incumbered with Soldiers than 
ere when the Army was quartered upon them i abd 
mid from thence learn to feparate ihofe two Ideas 
lie now, without any Realbn, To clofely connected in 
tfiodj. 

ir thti Reafon, Sir, if the building of Barracks fliould 
f&& of what is now propofec', I Qiould think it no 
fefl : I am prefuaded the Piopie would find it a very 
ine. But, till Barracks are builr, the Soldiers moll be 
red, and as it often happens, and whilll they are in 
ra mad often happen, to be impoflible for them to 
B for themfelves, tbey mull be provided for by thofe 
whom they are quartered, at fuch Prices as they are 
pay. If they Ihould demand a greater Quantity, or a 
!bn of Vi&uali than can be afforded for what they are 
'pny,the Landlord iinot obliged to comply with their 
idl, nor it the Soldier, or his OlHcer, but the Civil 
nee, to be the Judge ; becaufe, if the Soldier fhould 
himfelf not fufficientty fupplied by bis Landlord, he 
I Kedrefj bat by a CompUia: to the neighbouring 

Juftices 



( J74 ) 

Ar)noi4iGMjaRice( of Peace, and they only, are to be Jadgei bctwm 
^- '740- bim and his Landlord. From hence, I ifainlc, it is eridcK 

l/V^J that this Claufe cao be attended with no Oppreffion, En« 
tion, or Exaction i and as it is in many C^fes aUblnd] 
Decenary, 1 therefore hope it will be agreed to.' 

Mr. Pulteney. 

S I R, 

Mr Pultenev * ^' *'* obliged to the Honourable Geotlemtn fijr « 
'plaining to ut the Meaning and the Reafbo of the Claoflii 
King William's Time, whereby Lahdlords were obliged b 
iiirnilh the Soldiers with Meat and other Vifluali, or to gtr 
them 4d. a Day to furnilh ihemfelves. 1 he Neceffitieti 
our Government, the Barennefs of our Exchequer, the In 
State of Public Credit, made It abfolmely necefl^ry foroB 
Parliament at that Time to agree to fuch an opprcffive Ei 
pedient: But that very Expedient fhews, that we ought H 
to agree to what is now propoted ; it fticwi that when Sol 
dicrs have ready Money, they may provide for themlelvct, 
and therefore, now they have ready Money, weought ootli 
oblige iheit Landlords to provide for them. We may, iti 
true. Sir, be agiiin reduced to the fame NeceOities we laboMl 
undyin King Willinni's Reign : A waAcful Miniller, wk 
thinks cf nothing but the Period of his own AdminiliratiN 
may fwecp the Exchequer clean ; and if we take no Caic| 
pay off, in Time of Peace, the Debts we are obliged tocoottlfi 
in Time of War, our public Credit mull at lall fink if IN 
as ever. If MiniHert in Timeef Peace convert to the cunti 
Service, thofe Funds th^it were fct apart for paying off a> 
Debts, in order to conce;«l from the People their Prodigality 
or the needlefs Expences they put the Nation to, Pcopie M 
begin to fu re fee the Diftref:) we mull be dtove lo, u fta 
as a heavy War happen^ ; and ihofc tliat are wife, will hepi 
in Time to draw ilicir Fortunes out of our public Fn^ 
This will diminifh by Degrees our public Credit, and at bl; 
when we have the grcateil Occafion lor ic, wc fh;ill probibl| 
have none left. Thdc fjcal Ciicumftanccs we Aiould nhi 
care to prevent by our good ConHufl ; but furcly, the Dw 
ger of our falling into tticle Circamllancei can be no Rnfcl 
for fubjeibr.g any Part of the People to fuch Hardfliipl, ■ 
canbe julUfied by nothing but fuch Ncce(It:ies. 

* I fiiv. Sir, fuch Hsrdlliips as can be julliried by notUtf 
but futh Nccefltties : But in the prcfent Cafe I muft gofel 
then I mull hy, that what is now propofed, can be joftiCl 
by no Necciliry. It is a Hardfhip to obliges free-boraSri 
je<ft to receive a LoJger into his Houfe, whether he vQlt 
iio; but tiis aninlulftiableHardthip to oblige him to piovii 

ai 



( 175) 

bViftftilsferhii Lodger, whethfr he will or no, and Arno t4i(ieo. 
X too, which he does Roc approve of.v This, Sir, is 11.1740- 
flup, which the Parliameot wou!d not, we find, agree 'w^'YXw' 
I ia the Year 1696, noiwithllanding the Neceffities 
Htrnincnc was then under; and the Exception then 
vith regard to Soldiers upon a March, was not be- 
hi So'diers could not provide for themlelves, if they 
nfiuniOied with ready Money, but bccaufe they were 
LiiAat one Place, dine at another, and fup at a third, 
! Proportion to be advanced in ready Money for each 
ither than itirniOi tbein with it, could not be adjuQed 

ItlBUDt. 

t this of providing and drefling Vifluals for the Sol- 
re ire told, cannot be fuppofed to be a Hardfbip, be- 

bu been prafiifed, and Inn-keepers have fubmittcd 
r forty Years palt. Sir, whilll wc had but loor 
I McD of regular Troops in the Kingdom, molt of our 
cperi lubmitted willingly to this Hardlhip beciufe 
ire but feldom expuled to it, and when they happen- 
i fo, they could bear the Expencc and Trouble, be- 
bcj bad but few Soldiers quartered upon them : but 
e have near ^.o.coo regular Troops with: > the King- 
he Hardfhip is fo frequent and fo heavy, that it is im^ 
'for tbcai to bear it. The moll proper Method, there- 
tr having this PraAJce continued, is to diminifh the 
roF your Troops kept at home, and this, [ hope, will 
m be done i for if this War continues, ( hope a 
hrt of our Land^Army wiil be lent out to attack 
tmy i and if the Warfhould be ended by an honour- 
my, for by no other Sort of Treaty it can be ended, 
Vit may be fufpended, I hope his Majefly, out of his 
i AHtAion to his People, wil! difband a great Part of 
D/teven tho' the Parliament Ihould not defirc it; for 
C2pe£t. in my Time, ;o fee z, Parliament defiringan/ 
ibit may fecm tobediln^reeabie to a Miniller. 
w PraAice in Times palt is'ihcrcfore. Sir, no Proof, 
e provii!;ng and drelHng Viftuajs for the Soldiers is 
duup upon thofe, who fubmitted to ir, whilft it was 
ricr than they could bear ; an'' as Iit:le is tt a Proof, 
i Meaning of the Law is lucb, as a learned Gentle- 
I been pleafed to reprefent ; or that the obliging Inn- 
I by Law to do what they have done without Law, 
le attended with no Inconvenience. It is this very 

that has made it poQible for them to do fo. Jt is 
iC being obliged 10 provide Vlftuals for the Soldiers 
sd upon them, that has enabled them to provide i be- 
w SoUien contented chcinfelvej with a litUe more 

tbaa 




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( *76 ) 

Annnt^, Geo than ihty could iSori for the Monry : If jrOQ lay llini 
U 1740. dcr a legal (l^ligatJon la do lo. the Soldien will 

k/V^^ (q eafily f<»u;6(5. They arc not Hour rtfiJy CatiiM 
myicif law once in tnirelling, a very good Didbct 
ai an Ihd ia [he Country, whkh, I wat told, wm ' 
fix OragTOoni quartered there ; I thooght it fi 
much bcticr Company, aqd yci the Dragooni, I 
were nof I'ari^fied with it. They do not kiwaya con 
wbea they aie oot pJcifed i but they grow mirctiicvoot 
cut the Linnen. margle the Plate* and the Difhcs, a 
nuiny other Tricks by which the Laodtotd luflert : 
Trick* they would prafllfc in a more eitravaMni 
and moch ufioer, if you Ihould a^tcc To this Claufe 
would Boi go 10 a Juliiceio complatn for want of V 
but by [uch Methods tliey would force their 
compiAin of ihem, and he could compliio to bodc 
0£cen. Wbtllt they know, ihat their IjuidloH 
obliged to fiiioiOi them Viauati, they will gcatailAf 
within feme Bounds ; but if you rerobve this Oicck* 
will ejccetd a I, uhich will of couife taife fuch Dii 
as any endanger oar Government. 

* Ai f .-(n a Knend to our prefenl EllablilhtneBt, X 
be for lov Kxpedieni, which I think the Sobjetl can ' 
Ai fuch, I Ihailalwayi be for preventing, a} much M 
bte. any Occifion lor Mutiny in the Aroir, Oi Jbf 
lenta among the People i but I fhall never be for 
latter Jor the kke of preventing the fonnrr, 
eiKlanger our prcfent happy BlUbliQunent, ot 
upon m a numerom StaRding-Army. Let ui co 
that we arc net now upon a Bill for raifing Mooif 
public Service : Agaioll fuch Bills, 1 think, yoa Ittfc 
down ai a Rule, that no Petitions ate to be rtcctvcdi 
hope you will not I'ay, that no Petitions are to b* 
agaiolt any Ctaufc m this Bill. The Ctaufc bow _ 
will ceruioly have Petition! agaiofl it from moft Parts 
Kingdom: The Petttionen mull be beard: By thi> 
(he Bill naji be loll, or delayed till after the Msti 
iMw fubfUtin^ be expired. What Confufioo « 
breed in your Army i The Regimeati mull all d 
would be a iort of High Trciion to keep them loseUcT) 
to cxcrcite any miitia) Law ia this Kingdom. 

• It thii. Sir, a Krik to be run, for ths Uk* of 
an Alteration in the Law, whkh Experirncc ku 
Army miy fubfill well enough without f I fay. aa 
tiOB in the Law : for aotwithttanding the Measing p«t 
the Word Quanc'ii, by the Hooounblc Gttukma& 
ipoke tattt Bad by tha Icinird Genilcmu who fptttar' 





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•fttfe kin, I oidA inlifl. that in thii Country, the Word Anno i4«Ge<r 
m igDifiesno more than a Lodging as convenient aa .11- ■740- 
l«Mr«Fthe Houfe can afford. The Soldiers may, tV\"*V 
p, cfaiik. that it liketvife implies all necef^ry Provi- 
vfach Prices la they can pay for them ; but Soldiers 
btn Notion*, and annex Ideas to Words, that are very 
ElMiwith the Laws of this Country, or with the CoD- 
■ of any free Gorernment. In this Country, how- 
na the Saldien have not yet formed fuch a Notion of 
an: At leatt here in Weilminller, they have not; for 
Inrer defire any thing more than a Lodging at tile 
•hoc they are qnartered ; ncr has any of our Mu- 
Ifii (inni them EncoarrtgeRient to expe£t more, ex'. 
Ik in [696 ) and aa that Law was the ESeStof Ne- 
i1t iMM aa-fooa as the Necelfity was over. It may, 
^ be Bccefliry, now you have fo grrat an Army on 
btblige Idttdlords to fsrnifli the Soldiers quartered 
iloiwith the Ufeof their Fire and Kitchen-Utenftls, 
ifing ibd eating the Provifions they purchafe for 
eheii bat even this you ought to take Time to confi- 
I kit an Army is a dangerous Tool to play with : Ic 
IDC to be bandied rafhiy by thofe who have a Regard 
hliibtrliea of their Country. 

fall rodily'^agrce, Sir, with the Honourable Centle- 
ku In Amy of true Engliflimen can never be danger- 
Xibei^i becaufe they would dilhand themfelves, 
kcjr loaiKl they Oioutd be of no Service to their Coun- 
Iqp wotftd' fcom to put their Country to the Expence 
MtniDg them, when they knew ic had no Occafion 
V Servitt. Bat when bad we, when fliall we hava 
t'Anny 7 An Army of EngliQimen has once already 
Ml tbe Liberties of this Country, and would proba- 
n pcrpe&iitcd the Tyranny they h.id fet up, if their 
ibcootd hive agreed among themfelves ; for it was 

Anny, but the Difagreemem among Cromwell's Gc- 
■ftcr his Death, that brought abonttKe ReDoracion of 
iMfmncmt under King Chitrles II ; and in the late 
faffles's Tine, it was not fo much the Army, as the 
ggotry of that Prince, thatbro'jght about the RcvoIli- 
Br if the -Army had feen, tiiat they were to have 
« Miniftera of that tyrannical Governoient he had fee * 

f mnld probably have fupported him in it ; b^t ihey 
U even ifaey themfelves were to bs the Slaves cf his 
•ad therefore many of them joined in divciljng tiim 
uWirary Power, which the Army in general had ai- 
■ieMODMged him to aflume.' 
nil mat,- Sir, we hod at that Time the good Lu:k to 

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Annoi4,Cco hive fcvertl great and enuneni Pairiots, who had ronfidrTV 

11.1-40 bli Intcifft ard Cooimandi m ihe .Arm)" : By their KU 
^-^""V^^^ SptfUif Liwtty ard Patriotiiin WM pfffeivcd in the Al 
but il X biii bo; bcrn fcr the open acd notorious B<g« 
ibc Prince, 1 ita alraud, it^cir Endcsvoiin»ouU) b>*e{ 
iaefft^u&l. ThCjFWOulil piQbablj' thcnilcivcj have joif 
Frmcc ttf Oringe it bu JAncing ; boctKry muli hk*c^ 
firgW aiui ft'uivci and in tuat Ln!e tticy Ri'gbt, in all. 
bility. have fal'cn Vitiims to tbtit uwn Honour nA\ 
Love For ihtir Ccanir)' I hope, uc ktrc Ilill maof < 
PSccri tit cur Aimy : 1 hope there it All! a $p:it oi 
ty amocg the Soldiers i but whoever conCdcn (he mUt 
TbuttoFmcll Men after Power, ihe HArih of CooipABy 
Convcrfitioa upon 1 Mis't vviy of thinkieg, and the r>pii 
Progiels of MArdil L<w. ir.ull conclude, it at A oumiibM 
fiandioE Army, evco al n^^cioaal Troop?, W'liether in Qsv 
icrsonn Buracki, is abl'olutely incorMecii wuh a tree C4 
vtrnmtoc, efpccully where the modelling scd ccmiaittJaj 
of that Army depccdt eniirely, ai it doci in thia KiA| ' — 
Upon the Will of ooe fine> Man. 

• It muit be admitted. Sir, that a fiatuliag Amy la ' 

tet} wilt atwayi be more ttcublcrcinc to the Pcot^lr, 

ilanding .Artny in Barracki ; but for ibts my Rc;Jo« I ftiJ 

■Iwiyi be for kcrplrg our Army in Qoar[en,''ih»i tfccpi^ 

pie maybe fent'ible cTibe Fctieo, \^bicb are preparing 61 

them, before foch a Number can be forged, u nuy he taf 

cient for (hackling ihcm clofe down totfacGrouml. Tlj 

People have fliil a Power to prevenr, or put ao EodMllj 

keeping up of too nuinrfous ati Arm) : and f iif* 1 

alwayi think of exeiciluig ibit Power btfute it be 

'I'btt ibcy may do fo, I am for keeping our Amf 

View, by ha»i»g the Soldtcr* quartered among 

tbc S<jldicr» were all kcrc in Buracks, the People 

infcnfiMeof their Numberi, and n<ght not, perhip, 

of reducing them by I^w till the Army grew U>i 

root, and became fo dofely united, u co be able 

port ilCclf againA Law. Therefore, Sir, whatever 

may be to Discipline in the Army, which, barring Ri 

we have had no great Oceaiian for thefe lutoty Vc 

whilil J am a friend to the People, I QuiJ ihittk nyf 

ged lobe bgatalt cttAing fiarrackt, and every 

may in the IrtH coairibuie towards in hcirg nrcel 

to ctrA any (uch ; and coafcqucotiy, 1 moll be aj 

Uaufenow propofcd.' 

Atljouiited Uic fanbcr Confidirition ttU TharfdavJ 
Ordered, I hat the proper OfBccrs do lay bcfdl 
littuitt ui Account of what PrrToni wcrt aothariicd 




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kt Mifdiy QuMn Aanc, under her Ro/al Sign Muual, Annoi4,G«0' 
vtv tW Cammiflioocn of ihe Arfmiraily, ta recti re antt ''■ •74'*- 
taaatit tach Somen and Srafiring Men ai DiouM be taken ^^""V"^^^ 
vp'ufarfit*octo(tn\0, 4ih Queen Anne, for ihe Encourage- 
cjukI IncrHfeof Scamrn.and furcbe better and fprcdier 
•iae her Mtjrily's Fleece: And alfo what Application* 
rBMc by ru«:ti Pcrfoos to the Jofliccs of ibc Peace, lod 
r chief 0£cert, for cauftng privy Searchei (O be made 
parfiiioce of the Ciid AA i and an Arcounc uf the Nutn- 
3 of Seaaco which were rcturnrd ra ihr Navy In purfuance 
txb Applicaiioni and privy Ss&rchei ; md likcwtl'e the 
kaijc jccc^ding the fatne. 

Tke z^ch. Agreed to the Report of the Bdl to prevent 

IJneeBTcatencie* trifing by I>eUyi of Caurci af.er Jfloe jotn- 

1, witji fcrrial Aneodnenti: Ordered it to be engroired. 

Knxtvedaa Account ihcwing the Progref* of the Colony 

if Georgia in America from lu firll Elt.ib1i(hmeQt. And 

[;efKraI Account ordic Trulleei foreflablilhing the 

,4-.. lay. ofi.ll Maoicsaad £ff(^ received zDil expended 

nj thn rrom the 9th of June, 1732, (tbr Djte of (heir 
spcrr ) to ih? (jtfa oF June, 1 740, u q^ibited purftunt to 
1 iMrcAioB of tticir Charter *. 

V- ■ -'^ Rcvciveda Petition of the Cothien of S:roud- 

ircflerfhire. complaining of feverjl greit Abufci 

«rol(icrd,aod particuUrly of the Licence lakea by 

iKooi orfettiflg up in the Ctotbtftg Trade, without 

J nikcr fcrved a lawful AppreniiceQiip to the fame, or 

flag proper Skill in the Manufi£lure i and therefore 

>'e tniy be given to bring in a Bill for the 

n of the Clothing Trade; that foch fur* 

■.KKt-tt irj> be given ai to the Houfc Ihill fcem meet. 

to ihe Commiticc of the whole Hoofc on Wool, 

Read a Uiird time, and pailed the Bill (0 prevent Iikod- 
!S4ar>n anfing ftom Dela/sof Ctufca after IflTae joined ; 
\Orirft6 n to the lAitii. 

Rnd a fecoiwJ time, Bill 10 esplaia an Ad i3th Qtteen 
Bw, (or prov;diBg a Reward for the Difcovcry of the Loo- 
Jltalr. ire. 

lo a grud Committee, went tbro' the Bill for pUfiiJliiag 
Moisy aad Deferlioo, with feveral Amendmenuf . 

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tit* MmUe$. + ji nev: Cis0/t •wamdiii.^n* Ifatg 



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A tino 14, Geo ■ The zjih. Read a fecond time, a Bill to expltia fe aiak 
II ■'40 of an Ad6[h of King George I. for the better fecuriogceh 

V^^^^N*/ tnin Powers and Privilegei intended to be grmoted b^ his Mk 
jelly, by two Charters for Afliiraoce of Shipi aod Merchaa* 
dizes at Sea, and for lending Money upon Bottomry t nd 
for retraining feveral extravagant and unmrrantablc Prafii- 
ces therein mennoned, as relate to the extravagant and n- 
warrantable PraAicei therein mentiooed, which gaTc Rife ts 
the following Debate. 

Six John Burniird. 
Sir, 
V^ J"*!" ■ ' There cannot be brought before this Houfe inyQiict 
fijrnivl. ^jQ^g more difRcnlt in themfelres, more entangled with 1 

Multiplicity of Relations, or more perplvxM with an endlcft 
Diverfity of Circumltances than thofe which relate mco«- 
mercial Afiiiin ; Af&irs on which the molt KxpertMc'd ofaa . 
difagree, and on which the moft Sagacious may deceive tbca* 
felres with erroneous Conjedures. 

' There are no QucAions, Sir, which recjaire Co aiadl 
perfonal Knowledge of the SubjeQ to which they rebie, aor 
is there any Subjcfl with which fo few Gentletnca in ikii , 
Ho-jfe have had Opportunities of being acquainted. That 
arc no Queftions, Sir, which their Variety of RelatioH tt 
different Perfona expofes to be fo eafily mifrcprefcnted witi- . 
oat Dete£lion. nor any in which the Oppofition of paiticilV ' - 
IntereQr, fo much incites a falfe Reprefentation. In aB iWi 
Cafe.*> Deceit is eafy, and there is a ilrong Temptation to 4»- 
ceiTc. 

■ Nor are thefe Queflions, Sir, always perplexed by ii> 
lendonal Fraud, or falfe Affertioni, of which they tbit onsr 
them are themfelvei confcioui. 

'. Thofe who deceive us, do not always fupprefs any TvA . 
of which they are convinced, or fet FaAj before us in iif 
other Light, than that in which themfelvei behold tbeai 
they for the moA Part err with an honefl Intention, and p»> 
pagate no. Millakes but thole which they have themMm 
admitted. 

' Of this kind. Sir, are doubtlefs the Meafures propcfcj 
jn the Bill before u*, wbich thofe by whom ihey are fit- 
moted, may eafiiy think to be of Benefit to the Public. IM 

whick, 

n ' 

fatnifi} fhm nfy luith CanJits, Vintgur and Salt, Mtd AmtM 
Bnrw Cydir, three ^arts a Dajgratii, and t» ^2t9W thm 
Firt and UUnSis /tr Dreffi^o and Eatitg tbtir Uimti ar *j| 

t^it 4^. ptr Pitta, anJ/ad tiim in tvtn Tbii^, 



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, will apfNtrtiie iUfttii o^ inptrfcQ Viewi, AnnoM.Gfio. 

iO. 

AmduDcniAl Error. Sir. of tb« Patient 

to be an Opinion, thit the Pmflice of 

known toother Nations, oar nn be cBrrio] 

Place, and fmm Ihiit Prinriplc they deduce 

which, if they iverciacviubly ccrtiin. mighi 

ai to an immediate Approbation of the Bill. 

Iw feauc oar Commerce, ami diOrcfs our Ene- 

lode. Sir, with (ufficient Jiiflftefs. that very 
would baunl tiieir F.irtunet in long Voy> 
iAilH Comncrcr, or expote thrmrelire» to the I^n- 
Ur, without S:ciirity.V(hicb Inturincci afford them. 
tg perluaded thrmlelves that fuch Security ii to he 
Emm DO o:hcr Nation, they tmagioe that we mighr, 
Uting rt, coafine all the foreign Vdfcli in their 
WdirAjr by ore Refoluttoo the Trade of both our 
Vour bnenliea. 

:our Ejlt-lodian Campflnjr may defiretbe Ratifici' 
Bill, I cmnot deny, hecaDic ihry might perhaps 
it lotne temporary Advitiuge by the (tuirt ln< 
rluch thofe whom thry car.ttdcrastheEneiniefl 
loierce would feci from it. They rany dcfire 
thiant, if it &li,u it mu().c:iDBot injure 
cccedi, oiiy produce great Advaniages (o 
kT wtfh ii. bccaufe ibey will Feel the icnmc- 
ind the Detriment will fjll opon otbcn. 
, cnquir* whether our Mcrclianti are inclined to 
■lervlcnceon ail itiofc who culiivaic the ttmc 
Coinmcrcc with themfelKs, tho' they have 
^iolatinn cf luUuraJ Righti, oor the iofringc- 
' :a compIaiD of. I fhtnld be uo- 
ih .\terchsnt, whole Acquaintance 
loa ot ait own Couairy ought id ihewhim 
.af Liberty, who ought lo be above narrow 
the Knowledge which hit Profclljon cnabtet 
o( a Dcfitc (g oscroach upon the Righu of 
Bgiolj ibc gMcnl Benefit) of Nuute,3nd(hili 
It fevcral other Nations can pledt! a Claim 
3tu Trade « CUim of ei]«utl Va:i<iity with 
'^" Dane* have their Sc;tlemcm» there, and 
JifcovereO ihe way to ihore Regions of 
MHicu fonie perbap are inclined to exclodc 

b more vain than CO atiempt to exctoda 
IE to cnfve ihtu Ships, bccaule the Opintoa 

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AnnDi4.Gce ilat t>i«y can be infored by ni>«herN«ti<mUti«irei)i nab- 

II 1740. mut Foundation. There are, si (hit Time. OSco of l»t^ 

^/V'^NJ """ "'""g '*" wt»t>le tr»*fl <^f ^^' MidUod Set, UH*| 

the Dutch, and even among ihe French- Nocktagcsadctar 
any Nation from the Tude of Infunnce bot the Wik sf 
Money, and thsi Money ii. not wanted b/ Forei^Mn, Isf 
this Purpofc, afpeats frnm the great Sunn which iWy bift 
depofited in our Fandi. 

• Thai (hi) Tr^de i» now carried on. chiefly by ih" N»- 
tion, iho' not fotel)-, ii inconceQible 1 but wliai can K-- 
led from that, 'but ihii we ought not to obHruti < 
Gain; that we ought not tom»l('a L»w to deprive ou^i.»o 
of that Ailvaniagr, of which either favounble AccidciKi or 
our own Sagacity have put ui in Pollcffion. 

• FflT thii Rcafnn it appeari, th^t it would not co«tr%sf» 
10 (be Wraith of the Public to dcbir ui from mGir 
Ships, even cf thrvfe with whotn wrirc at Wm, (or 
ways to be remembered that they wilt receive lu) Detrwas 
from foch Prohibitions, nor will ferl any othet Conlr^aeiC* 
from ihcm than a N'eceflity of trantferring to Cone UhO 
Nation the ProJil which wc receive fran it. 

• What the Profit it which arifci to the Nation from tft* 
Tnde of Infurance, it ii not poflib'e extAly to detcriDia*. 
bat that the Trade it really advantagiouf raay be rcafontWf 
conceived, becaufe after many Years ExperieiKC it ii itU 
gently followed, and a l^w wm never neccfTiry to prtkkAal 
cht Purfuit ol a Bufinehib)' which nothing u-ai to be pia«i 
But could the Gain of the Inrurer be a doubtfvl PotU, t^m 
is a crrratn Advantage to the Nation by the Mosey paid (at 
Commiflinn. Brokcnige, Stamps, and the Credit <rf (be Pit' 
nium depcf):ed here. 

• I might add. Sir, another confiderahlc Sum yctrlyitii 
ing to the Govemnwnt frt>m the additional Letter*, acn* 
iionrd by thi» Trw'e, which incrca^'e the kevfr.oe* of ikc 
foltC(Bre, without any Dedu^ioo for additioul Cbargc 

• That the LtA). of this Progi. sod the Gaiat>f ivUntp 
will enf'jc npon the Rati6cattarn of this Bill, ranaot be » 
nirdi nor doci it appear, that this Lofi will bf co<incA» 
laoccd by any Adnotaget that Will be pined ovcrMT fb* 
rail or our fcr.rmio. 

• Wfinfacr thit Bill, Sir. would prpdijceto ihf McrdbMD 
of that City by which it is promsicd, the Advantage! whiik 
ihey cxpeA from h, or remove any of the Gnmnce* rf 
which thrv complaiit. I am DOtabkpoCitircIy todctuatMi 
bat know, thtt it it not uncoramot) for Meich&r.:*. a* well •> 
other .Vfcn, to coofjDgd privair with piibUc GncraBcei.acl 
to ivagtiic theii ot»D lotcicfi the latercfi of (he Nuioi. 







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• \(iihrt^r<), Sir, to ib* Praflice of infoxiog, fnteftilAnnoi^.Geo. 
■M li^ered, at the Term i*, when an imagina/)' V'aJue is **■ ''***• 
an ibe Ship or Ci/go. often much ibove in real \-/'YN^ 
i.d£iBOot betJcnjcd, (hit fome Opptmunttin may be 
it for wicked PiaCliciM. Butlneie will alw<:y!i be 
iiAaiXM in which ihere can be no Security ag:iiRil 
bul commcn Faith ; nor do 1 fee how wr cnn lecure 
ifrfoiert agntoit the Pcffibiliiy cT being JcfiatK^cd. 
I caanot miicEfi liikayer, Sir, how ibii Mtlhtd cf Id- 
— ^ " •■ - f rrrrnced ; for how can the V'ainc of a Cargo 
A'btch it to be coltc^cd in a long Voyigr, at 
i,iL>, aikj where the Soccefi of the AdvcDturcs cf- 
:ntj| Dpon luclcf Accidtolf, which are trtj«d alwafl 
for, bet fcMcm happen. An imaginary Value muft 
foM be £xcd upoo, Hhca the Ship Icavei the Port ; br- 
ibe SucuU cf that Voyage cannot be foieknown^ and 
coatn^ing Psrliei may Le fiifel/ irullcd la fct that 
' i>i any Law to Jireit or retrain ihcm. 

rrtb^itt* .''tc oppitlTed by any pccuRar IncOR- 

[ . .', .f. 1 ^Mfl find mcani uf rcdrcffiiig (hem without 

■ ^ ;■ - -c Coromerce, miy I'topolal for that Por- 

Ji^at 10 be U^cuttb'y r(c<ivcd( bur ai the Bill now 

.-i -t f?ropof« general krflronD, and propofeifo reirove 

' ;. aie not fcic, by Kemedie*, which thofe, 

■ 'le 10 operate, do not appiore, f tluok !c 

[ht MM Id bt rtferied (D a Committee, but rrj«Acd.* 

Mr. Soatbovir. 

S I a, 
I • Wbeo I firfl prcpofed this Bill to ih« Houfe, I lamer-tcd Mr SouttwU 
•V^ it-'r-ft of that Honconble Genfletnan, frctn wbof* 
.r.t and ATgumrot! J cxprAcd great (r.fotmatioa t 
«>■- -f^' Juugiocnc, mail conmtrcul Qiiellioni, I bavt 

titc -lecni. *i hit Penctritioo not only rn«b'it him 

diit.'.-ir IDC CoflfniiMDcet of MeitK)di which have net 
bee« tried, buias fait extcs&ve Ac(]U4iatai)ce with many 
locbc* fif Tttdr, Cannot but hive infotmed bim of the 
fiaf many EcpcdicDii t'ted, at well in other NatiOci 
I oatvU'-n, [or the AdvaiKCcncnt of it. 

Traiif, Sir. it a Subjefl, cf which it h»l been jafily ob- 
'^t reiy few Gentlemen hkve aitainrd Know'edge 
: JO qialiff themretves to jji^gc of the Propriety cf 
|-t»tw Regulation; aod I cannot buicc<nfcri. ihat I have 
■aet-nuBQft .Skill in thefc QucUicni. What I have to 
rffcr 00 iKit OcoiJud. bat been fuggciltd ;o me,iiotfotnach 
i^hj ny tiwn Obleivaiicnt, ai by the lotLUigeoce which I 
Mbsvc very todiiJItMully foDgbt, ard by whitb, at I endea- 
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Aftnft#4,Cep. vrtored to wquireof thofc whoTe OpIft*n wai Iei(! Ukdy X 
bcpcrrertpd by their iBtirrell. I ho]* I kavc Ddi been miM. 

• The MerchaDtt. Sir, to whpm it Jut hetn my ForW 
to appljr, liive gtserally concurr'd lo :hc Opinfon that Ac 
pr«fent Prafliccof Infurtng, is ptrjudteiat to t>ur ConawiCit 
nor have 1 found any D1fagr«cnicRt between my CobftitMam 
knd the Traders of the great Metropolis. 

' I am unwilling to inugise tlut ttiere clo be wbj EriL 
for which the Wifdom of thii Affembly cannot diicti^tT i 
Rcniedjr, and am thrrefori; c*f OpinioD. tlut iftbe GrienMi 
IS real, foDie Expedient naay be drf(.over<d Tor retnovi^g < 
afid Ihat it is teal, I cSnnot bat be confinced by thefiKvA- 
ticnaorromaay Men. U-hocan hire no Intcrcn ja cmrpUft 
ing when tbcy fuSer nothing, and whofe k-bwfn AWiiii 
exempt them from the Sufpicion ofinputiug any Putctf 
their Uneafimrri to a Ciufe which cannot prodsce it. 

• The Bi'l before t», Sir, requires, in ray Of^ien, &HM 
AmeDdnicntt. and in its preTenc State, inight, prrlupt. pto- 
d(K« more Decriment than Advaitt?ge, but /ini:c it )i secefi- 
ry, ni leaf), to atxmpt (bmeihmg for the Reiki of Mn fa 
otcful to this NadiD, it appears n> me necrBary to foftn a 
Committee, uid to deliberate on this SubjcA with noreA^ 
tcntUQ. 



' Thsugh I am liot of Opiaion iha: the Bill ta tti pftfial 
State Ought to be patTcU into a Law, yet I am fiir from ihitk* 
it lb imperfed as not cifily to be amaridcd, and ibetciwtM 
defiroiji that it Ihould be conftder'd in a Committee. 

' I have not, iDdeed. Sir, often obfcrved, chkt Bttti tojf- 
drciouAy drawn up at firli, h;irc received great improrvaicBa 
from a frcond Conftderaitoo, and have found i: mareeafy n 
form I lew Bill, ihan !0 mjke Alteration in one that ii Ijiid 
before 01 : fot fame original Error will couimonly rcmaia. uA 
the Sentimemi of different Men, purfuing di(&reni Vie«>, <n 
feldom be modelled into cnc confident Scheme. Bui I aa 
brfrom confide.'ing thiiBilt, as one of thofe thatciaiiM bi 
ainenJcd, fut I can ditcxivei bui few Ob;e^oni to the Rff»- 
laitonsptopofcd in ii, anJ thofe not rciaung lo any of (he ci- 
fcncial Pjr». but flight and circumfUnDal, luch aa wiU xJOig 
be removed, or perhaps anfwered. 

* The Grievance, Sir, for which thii Bill propofe* ■ 1^ 
medy ii (o generally known, and fo ontferfany laoieetei. 
that, 1 believe, there is not any tltinc more worthy 
Aneniion of the Legifliiure than an Biujuiry ipto ttr 
orir,Md the propa Method of rcdrcSiiig it. 

• U 



isr Eaqtiirv loto (be Oufci of thii ObflnifUoa ol Anno 1 4, Geo. 
I am o( Opinion. Sir, ib»t cSe Pnfln,c of Infuring. 'L^i?' 
irAO latcnO, will i[-'pcdrio be ihc Koundaiion of ^te^^rV.^ 
tnl U'^ctfinelt.will be found a Pnflice of <o nam* 
bdctKX to Knud, and to »lily fufceptible of diOioncft 
, (bat I hclicve, every Klember of tbii Iloure will 
I Stippftflion 

DOBfirm D> Afftrtion, Sir, tnd itludrateihe QneflioD 
I, lOiill mention lomc psrikalar Inflanceiof Frtnd 
I ibii Co&cin hit gtren Occafiofi, of Fraud fo evident 
etcBable ihm itcisnotbe related without Indignation. 
Roj-al George wit a Urge Ship belonging co tbe 
M Compmy, which hjvirg been a Voyage 10 Vent 
ot in at Zamcnghol in bcr Reiurn ; aod being there 
to proceeJ 00 her Voyage homeward*, fei fail, an4 
lUia » Weck'i Sailing of the P«Tt, when, upon a 
ilk* Officeri entered into t Cunlulcatiofl, snd dcur* 
■ go back a Muoih'i Voyage to Antigua, for whal 
Sir. nay be eaGIy gueflrd; when it wis told thu iba 
H infured upoD a fuppofed Value of 6o,oool. 
iti Refolutian, S r, was no fooner formed, than Or* 
re given to change tbe Courfe and llnr to Antigui, in 
aooR>»U tbe RemoDflratices of the CarpcDtcr, who 
itcf^ Judge of the Condition of a A'euel, and who 
1 wiib Honefiy and Rcfalutinn agatnft their whole 
tre. But tbcy purfurd ifaeir new Scheme without injr 
epbii Murtnurt or AfTcrtion) 1 and, wheti tbey arrived 
Ina, found Came Method of infljcnciog the OKccrs 
lAaad to declare the Ship aafit lor the Profecution of 

acir Uefign. Sir, wai now hippily completed. To 
I tbe Onermination which had been pronounced tn 
ivtMr, they tirxndrd the Ship upon a Bank of Sand, 

Ribc Iron that grapplrt the Timber togcher, and 
il ukea away the Milb and Rigging, and what- 
tnild be ufcd or fold, threw ibc B^llatt to each EUkI, 
bruite the VrfTH in the middle. 
|r ihii well-Connived Shipwreck, hiving u they itna* 
nifed tbcir Fortunes, they came Home iriumphanllj 
their profpcrDa* \*oyage, and claimed the Money for 
the Ship wjiinforci. The Infurerf, ll»rtled at fucb a 
nd io uacxpc&ed, enquired ijitoibe AITiir v^iih all the 
rjr which III Importance might naturally in;:<te, and, 
SBC Confultition, determined to try whether the Sliip 
■Ot be tefo:cd and brtughi to England. 
R porfuaocc of tbii Rem ution. liiey (cB( Workmen aad 



VJl. 



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Mati- 



ir\nn 
II. 



( i86) 

t4, Rtn \fairriaU, and tvithojt much Expmce, or uiy OiScvJr^. 
•T40- bra«gh( it hr.hrr. 

• I believe, Sir. thii ReUtJon k fufficient at MKr. la 
prove ihf Praflke, andexpUrn the Niiure t T rt< F: 
which thi) Method of Infurance gtvc> Occafion t h.' 
freqiteticj'cf tlirm ufuch, thit many Infijoce* mi) : 
tlnccd, I Qiail tSer anotber Oiort Narnttre oS iv: 
kind. 

• A Ship that briongfd to iSr Eafl-lAdis Company, w- 
fured after (bit Method, wa« rjn albore by the OpCuft, la 
ftich a manner (hat he irt^Kglned none biJt bimf'cir sbV H 
recover it; ard ihcrrfoie. iKo' ii cofl joool. foU ii f. 
but the Purcli3t'er, ro left expert ihao the Optair . 
means very I'prcdily iftdifcngage it, to rertore it I'l a p-vpet 
Condition with little Ejcpeoce, and WMinifch enrtchcd by w 
fortunate Bargain. 

• I canr.oi but obfervc.S'r, ihit this kind of rnu,' ii tSt 
more fonnidib'e, a» it may be praflifed wit)ioi;c 
of DrWftinn J had ihc Captain, inlleHd of flrn 
Itroytd hii VefTct, how could his Wickrdord t\j 
bcca difcorered* Or how could the S:>«Kh.S a Cuci; - i 
Sliip liavc been brought Home, had it bcea fank in fonv 
dillani Corrrr of the World i 

' Thn PriAice, Sir, and the Fraudi whwh h liat otT>- 
ftoncd. and the Sofpiciont which the earj' Pr^ice of FnoJi 
alovayi crntn. have produced (o many 1 rial*, iml filled tht 
Coom of Juilicc \vith fuch intrtc^ir Contention*, ifr- * • 
Jadgei, who know perhap* nothing of ik:i Pnfl cebr 
ill Effr^i, have often declare.) J: to be To pregnane »ti 
CoQielii and Cheat), that it cnghtnot to be [uir<rinj, aadital 
a Law far fupprcffing it, woy'd mach concribute tn tbe £4*- 
bliflwneiitof Wace, and ffce Security of Property. 

• I am not inferCMe, Sir, of the Force of tl:« .Arf. 
made ufe of by the Honourab'e Gentlctnan wbo rp<^< 
favour of thi* Praflice, and cannot but allow it that y. 
which hi» Bexrcningi alwajt defervt t it i; the ftroegci' 
perhapj tin on!y Argamcnl. that can be produoed. Ha 
ASicnioa of ibc ImpoiTibihty of eftimating the real Valw 
of a Ship, or of (orekrowing the Socccf* of a Vo)^j[^ ii 
inconteftiWe ; But perhsp) h wjI) follow from ihcccr. Ml 
tKit in imaginary Value ought-to be admnted, but (Jul U 
lorursrce ought to he allowed, where theit ii no r-tio<al 
Method of aicertaining it 1 or at lealt, thatat] focH Ie'^< - ' 
ocght to be rather below the probable Value ihaa ab'--..' 

* If the Gricvaoce complained of, hai b^n prcvrd 
be imagioary, we ought doubt!eft to confult how ti r 
xfmedicd ) nor do I believe that our Coaldltnlotu will . 




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cfeftaal, if we rngage in :hcin, not with an Intention to Anon 14, Geo. 
perplex, bat to inform each other. 1 am of Opinion, Sir, '^- '^-t*^- 
Ibat ihe Imporunce of the QuelUon requires a Committee; *— ''''V"^^ 
Borcdb I dil'cover any eOentuI UcftrCt in the Bill, wbicii 
&imM hinder it from paffing into a Law.* 

ilr. Burrcl. 

St>, 

• I am c3Dviiiccd by Experience, as well ai Reafon, that ^f, Burrel. 
Ibmaay Jnconvcarencitf^arifc from this Method of fnluranci;, 

Uut it aflordi To many Opportunities of traud, and givea 
lodi Eocourdgemcnc to Nrghgence, that 1 Ihall willingly 
caacurinany Meafuresthat may cfTtAually fuppreG it. 

■ Ic a, Sir, toowtll known to require Proof, ihatlntereA 
if ibe Parent of Dilij^ence, and that Men attend to the Per- 
fornaoce of their Duty, in Proportion as they mull I'ufFer by 
the NrglcA of it i and therefore, every Pra^ice thatdcprivea 
HoneUy of its Rewaid is injurious to the Public. 

■ But (hat this is the Confeaucnce of ejlimating Ships at 
IB inagioary Value in the Offices of Infurance, is to the 
Ughelt Degree evident. When a Ship is ellimated absve 
\u rnl Vaiae, how will the Commander lutl'er by a Wreck, 
ar what (hull rellniin him from deilroying his VeiH:!, wacn 
it Bay be done with Security to himfelf, except that Inte- 
nitj, wbtcb indeed ought to be generally difiufed, but which 
u noc alwiys to be found, and to which tew Men think ic 
ttctocrult upon Occaliont of far left Importance f 

* To fhew. Sir, that I do not indulge groundlefs Sufpi- 
tisi, ormagnify the bare PofEbility of h'raud into Reality j 
ibil do not biacKcn human Nature, or propofe Laws agaioll 
Ki:lE«bief, that have rot yet exilled, it may be proper to 
Muioa ibmc Letters, in whi^li I have been tofurmcd by 
■r Correl'pondrai at Leghorn, of the State of the Ships 
vkich have arrived there: Snips lb weakly m.inii(»J, and fa 

Kionlly, or negligently lloreJ ; fo mucn decayea in the 
ni, and fo lU fitted with Rigging, that he declares hii 
AdoBjflineat at their Arrival. 

■ iinaydeierveour Coofideration, Sir, whether the Suc- 

tlftof the SpaniOi Prjvaiecrt may not be in great Part at- 

trlMtedto th.i periticiou> Practice ; whether Captain%, when 

ihlir Veflcls an; iufured for more than their V:iluc, do not 

t^tf veaiure into known Danger t Whether they do r.oc 

wSkUy ta'itk the Security of Lonvrys ? Whether they do 

Mt dirrfl their Courl'cs where Priv.iteer» may molt It-corely 

niie? Whether ihey do not furrender with lels keji:tance 

lia Intereft woaid eicite } And whether they do not ralie 

B 2 Clamoura 



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John 



Qamours againd tlie Governtnent for thrit fll Sotnfs 
avoid the Sulpicion of Nrgligcncc orFriud. 

' Thai oiberrraudi areconimidtd in the Prafljce of !•■ 
fuiing, is wcU known 10 itlc HoDOur&ble Cicntlcni.ia vh» 
fpoke againllihe Bi!l : Jt ii a common Prafdccto t.*ke \ 
ney upon Bocromiec, by way of Pledge for the Cjpiain'i 
ddity, andiodcflroy thit Security by infun&g tbc ml Vmic 
fo ch.ii the Captain may gals by neglcdirg the Can of k'.% 
VcHel, nr» lead fccure himfcir from Lod, ind iiuta>gr b4 
Eafe or hi» Pleafure, without any Icterroptioa Irom Ibe Fc 
of dimtniDiing hit Fortune. 

■ The whole Practice of (ararancc. Sir. ii in itt 
State, I believe, fo perplexed with I'ravd). and of fnrb 
nifcll Tendency to the Obtlruflion of Commcfce, thai ill 
folucely teijuiica foine leg;)! Regutatiuot.' 

Sir John Barnard. 
Sir, 

* Of Fraudt in the Pra^icc at Infurarice, wJtfa rcflld 
which the HonGUhbleO'cTitleman has appealed 10 nr. I 
coaiideatiy affirm, that 1 ainTotslIjr ignonot: Iknownoi^ 
aoy fraudulmt PrnAiccs opcn!y carried on, cr e(Ub]i(hcd 
Cu^om, which I fuppofe ate meant : For with rrgaid to 
gle A&s of Fr«ad, committed by parncslar Men, it is Bot| 
be iuppofcd but that they have been d«crCled m thii. &i is 
other Braocheiof Traffic; DOr cud I conceU-e thst any 
gument can be drawn frooi tbem agamlt the PraAicc t Su. 
every Part of Commerce is i« be prohibited, which bu ^ 
oHhcd Villain* with Oppofitimcio of PcceNf we fhill 
tiaQ 1'rftdeinio a narrow Compafi. 

* With regard. Sir, to the Inllaocc of the Royal 
tho* the Procecdiogs of ih< Cfiicer} are rot wholly to be 
dicaicd, }ci Put of thciiCoadu£l ii left locxplicabi* tWaj 
has been n-prelcnted. Their Keturn 10 Antigua when 
were bound Jor England, and were wtlhm a Week** 
of thctt Port, is cslily to be defended, if the Wted mi 
inry to their intended Courfc; for it 11 not difficall to 
crive th»l they might reach a dillant Pott with a ft 
Wifid. much looner than 00c much neater, with the W 
ag«inn them. 

* I have always obferrcd, Sir, that the Grntlemm aog^, 
in the Trade to thcFjtt-ln<iie3, ■(lumean Air of 5>jpen< 
to which 1 kcownoi what Claim tticy can produce. »m1 
to imiginc, that their Chatter g:vcs tbem more cxi 
Know'nlge. and more aiutc Sagacity, than bUt to the 
Men not combined in their AlTocauaB. 



"( t«9 ) 
thefc Gentlemen may diflapprore mf At- Anno 14. l_ 
. md howcirer they any mifrepreCenc them, t 0iall *'- >74^ 
kjk (hat they will hive with the Dilinterelied and 
^heir jult Weight, inc) thst thji AlFtir will not 
fKtt:inifi<d upoo ut ifflpcrfc^Exmiaauoii.' 

bcrt Walpole. 

1. 

ih« Mrrcbxatt ire fathfied with tTir prrrenrsir Robert' 
[afufing. Of wLat t« the Opinion of any leparaw Wjlpoic. 
). i [hmk i( abrolutrly annrirciliirf tu entjuire. 
Jiated for the public .4dr&nngr. aod arc cngagrd 
lentary Chancier to coufKief. not the private 
)f {sniailu Mcs, but the general Advantage of oor 

or Parfuit, Sir, of nitionil Intvrell, we fhould be o- 
^Hat!)r taOppofe the Schtmtt which private Men. 
^ftitfnsittet hiv«rcifmeil far tbetr own AJvami^, 
^pcf may be erpe^lrd to d^rcnd with all their Art s 
IKtvCry Manii unwilling to Imagine that the Pub- 
A <m] hii own are oppofitc, ami brcaafo it it to be 
l^aay maycnnfidcT the Public only in Sobordina- 
^■dvn, and be very little follicitous about the gt- 
l^rHty of (heii Country, provided none of the 
n which ifflid ic extend their IcfliieRce to ihetn- 

tiK Dtfcullton ol tbii Queflion.Sir, to coofi- 

ITC engaged m a War at^inll a Nation from 

Depredlttont, Opprtfirons, and Cneliicsi 

sg complain'd of, and againll which we are 

With a RefoluiioQ propoitioned to the In- 

fcffifred. and toour Defifcor VengMoct. Wc 

tftry Method ofdiflrefiing [hem, and to pro- 

r ^rmt even at the Expeaceof prclie&t 

■A private Men. 

I, Sir, ro alt who have either heard or 
l/di, that thfy live In Carclcfrnef* and In- 
al) the aatuial Advinuge* of their own 
tite thK Gain nf iortign Commerce, and depend 
American Siitlcmcnt). for Jill the Conrenl' 
rbapt for molt of the Nc«eCirit»of Life, 
tke nartkular Circnmltance that makei a War 
ia mach to be dreaded by them. A Naiioa 
io tbeai by Sra hold* them bcftei^cd. like ■ Garrtfbn 
an Army, proc1iide« (hem from Sjpplin. ia- 
Saccocn, and if it canoot force their WsUi bjr 

Attack, 



( >90 ) 

Anno 14, Geo AuacUj tza M leail by a, Blockide llarvc them to ■ Cipiuk* 
U i7«i>. lion, 

t/'V^XJ ' Thw. Sif. by a Nival War with an Enemy oT fspniv 
Sircagifa. cbejr omit at Icogth be fubJiicd, aod fuUucd DCifeqa 
without 8 Baltic, iixl wiihoui the pof&oillity of RpJ^"—" 
agamft fuch an Kozmy, ihcir Couragr. or their Di ■ > 
ol no Ufc ; they mijr form Armies indctU, but ntn... i.u 
only flaod upon the Shore, to detcod what (heir F^immbti* 
00 iniention of invading, and lee (hofc Sbifi k-x/.d 10 wkick 
iheir Pay is treaforcd. or ihcir ProvifioDs arc (torcd. 

• Su:b,Sir^ii our luiural Superiority orer thi' : 
Spccica of Supcnvriiy thai muK ineviubly pit 
(tot defeated by our own Folly i and lurcly a mori 
Method of defcatiag t;, the i^pjiniirds^thcmielve*- < 
havedikovetcd, duo that of infuring (heir Ships ai.. 
KIcrchdnti. 

• When a Ship tbut infured i» taken, which, notn 
iDg all frccautiunt mull lomclimn tu>ppcn. we tx-)-. 
Cargo, find if ejitremcly valuable, and triumph in < 
ccfs; Mc not only count the Gam to ourletvej. Klj: 
to our Enemict, and dcicrmmc that a Onall N.:' 
C^pturei will reduce them to v3kt us Peace u{'< : 
Termt. 

• Such ire (he Conclurioni which arc ma^. na^ n^it 
with Rcalon, by Men unicquainied with ibe Iccrct - 
of our Mnchaois, and who do not fufpcA lu 10 t>. .. 
enough to fccure our linemici agunit ourfclrrf. but it il 
found, upon a moreclofe Examtnatton. tbaioorSbipt 
have only plundered t>ur Mcrchinu, aiwl tkit oar rn 
may indeed bare cnrtcbedihrmlelvci, but impovcrtflwd 
Coontry. It is difcovered. thai the LoU of the Span 
to be repaid, and porhapt fooKtifMa wiUi Inmcfl, 
firiiiAi infuren. 

' U It be urged, that we ongttt nrt to enaA aoy 
which may obiiru^ the Gain of-our FcMow Sjbjedi, 
not be alkcd, why all Trade with Spain ii piohibitti!, 
Dot (heTradebc cquxlly gainful with the Inlurance.aad 
not the Gain be more generally diOriboicd. and t 
more properly nationLtl ! 

• But thiiTntie was prohibited, because it < 
ccfijry (0 our Enemies, than ourWvt* ; it was \ 
cade tbe Lawi ol War rec)uire, that a led t 
fafiered lo inAiA a greater 1 it ii upon thit 1'- . i 
every Battle is fought, and that wc hrc our own ahtp 

' confumc (he Nivictof tbe Enemy. 

• For thii Rcafon, Sir, ■! appears to me evident 
CoatradiAioD, that the Infurancc of Spanifh Ship* 



Tcidenral Abufea. 

■ t by Foreigners, tfae Nation 

:.'^ttrd; but, even in that Cafe, 

■■■- private [ntereil of the In- 

:y ruined, is 3 fufficiciit Securi- 

. nut. Sir, be conceived that an/ 

on a Bufiners, by which he be- 

: chat, when hedefiih, he will be 

. canaoE but know that he engages 

:ii] Rain. 

L, Affair is, that Frauds are, indeed, 

' for that Reafon always fufpeAed, 

...lenthey infure the Ship and Cargo 

>'i, anang other Chances, the Proba* 

:, and proportion their Demands, noc 

inil Danger of the Voyage, but to thft 

[he Man with whom they contract 

■-.lya the Pr^flice of thotc whom Experi- 

(inted with the Danger of implicit Confi' 

tingCredality, nor do my but the Young 

-.'jr chemrclves to be fs expofed to Frauds. 

■Aiaa Ihould be injured, or the general Gain 

. over- balanced, by a few Deceits. 

jppeari, that, ootwithilanding the Eale and 

' hic^ dw, prefcnt Methods of inftirance udmit 

""■^ ' •.Inibren, by a proportionate Degree 

'om being injured, and by-con- 

is now to bs conftdered. 



( 19* ) 

Aonoi4.<'<o >"^ ought therefore to be prohibited, for every Rabitkit] 
It. 1740- cm be tirgfd againU Games of Cfaancr. 

* With rrgard to this Bill in grnenil, it ii ia tt^OfiiM 
bigbl)' ncccIUi)-, nor can I dircorer any iroportATt Ot>iifl« 
ibat cir be made .-igaiflft it. Some Law of tbit kiad, ttdit 
this Piirpolie. I h^ive long imendeJ to offer to the CocG^- 
lion of ibi» Affcmb'yt and fincc ii ii now before ui. I wA 
we ought to confider it With the /^EtcnUon, wbich nt^ti 
jaflly expcAcd from uc.' 

Lord Baliiniore. 

S 1 R, 

Lord * t know not how properly the PriAice of Jtkfat^ii 

B^tlmore ^ termed sSpccici of Hazard ; nor do I ihtnk uy \h»k' 
more it to be corfidered, than whether the GaoK be |ii*M 
to the Kation, or not] for I caonot difcoverthst tkcte tt» 
Abfurdicy tit eoriching ourfelvo « the Eipcnce o( otic 
Nation, whether Eneonci or AHiet. That we oa|bt » 
prefer the general Good tuihe AdnDtage of lt>dV*i9ll», » 
undoubted; but I cannot conceive thai, in lh<i Cafe, tbcnci* 
beany OppolJtion between prirate and public Iq' 
our Inlurcn gain byfecuring ihe Shiiu of our E 
Kation i} benefited, for all natioiul Gain molt cicto 
the lland» of iDdJvidaali. 

' No NUn will afTicrt tbat we iMght toajTift oor 

nor will any Man imagine that weaffiit them by inpai-^ 
ingtbem: and if our Infurcn gain by Ihcir FriAjce, ttcSf*' 
niardtmull undoubtedly be Lolcri.* 

Mr. Willimoi. 

S m, 

Mr.wmimot. ' ' *>*" converfid on iht Queflion to wluck AmU 
ftlatet, with Men engaged in vanoui kindt of TnSc. id 
who tuve no common Interctl but tbat of tbeir 
have dilperled among the Mcrclunb. toolt cmisei 
AcquainiatKc wirh the who!* Extent of Come 
for their Knowledge of ibe true Intrrell ol the N 
pin of this Bill, ind cannot hud any of ibcm fo 
Ibc Gricvaocc, of which we have (a loud (.onpUian, 
defire that it Oiotild fc« redttlfo) by the Mcarurc* m* 

pofR^. 

* Thil Frauds aie pncltfed on every Sid», is 
well ai in other Tridei, the geiu-r^l Corruption of 
givct us miHcteoi Rcafoo to IulpcC> ; hm what u ca 
eveiy fort of Traffic, caniMK be produced ai on A 
for ice Px^bibiuou of any. 



( '95 ) 

luC cbc PnQice of infaring an imaginary Value* may Anno 14, Geo} 

>pporninity for greater Frauds than can be praftifed "■ *74<»- 

imon Dealings, is likewife evident, bat I cannot difco- L/'^/*^\J 
zh Frauds as tu require the loterpofltion of the Legifla* 

r they are praAifed only by thofe of our own Nation, 
iblk does not (aSeti fur Property is only transferred 
we Subject to another! the Fraihl oughc indeed to be 
f panifhfd ia the Courts of Criminal Jullice, bat the 
n which gave t\\c Opportunity of prafijling it. ought 

be rellrained. any more than any other Profei&oa not 
lal in itfe^, but liabie to accidental Abufes. 
'our Inlurcrsare defnuded by Foreigners, the Nation 
, indeed, mnre nearly affcdted ; but, even in rhatCafe, 
I be remember'd, that the private Ititereit of the In- 

who mult be immediately ruined, is a fnifick-ntSecuri- 

the PiCjlic. For it cannot. Sir, be conceived that any 
will obllinately carry on a Bufinefs, by which he be< 

every Day poorer; or that, when hedefiils, he will be 
Jed by another, who cannot but know that he engages 
c Tnffic to his certain Ruio. 

lie true Suie of this Affair is, that Frauds are, indeed, 
UMimitted, and are for that Reafon always AirpcAed. 
«t tbc Infuren, when they infure the Ship and Cargo 
: Accident*, reckon, amQng other Chances, the Proba< 
of being cheated, and proportion their Demands, not 
1 the Length and Danger of the Voyage, but to the 
3er likewiluof the Man with whom they COniraA 
his. Sir, IS :ilways the Pr^Alce of thole whom Experi- 
■9 made acquainted with the Danger of implicit Confi- 
Aud unrd''pe£tiDg Credulity, nor do any but the Young 
Folltilful iulTer themfelves to be fj expofed to Frauds, 

tJftir Kortunei thould be injured, or the general Gain 
r Bufinefs ovrr-balanccd. by a few Deceits, 
'bus it appear;, that, notwiihilanding the Eafe and 

with which the prefent Methods of Infurance .-idmic 
tobepraAiicd. th;; Infurcr;, by n proportionate [>egres 
tioa, Iccure themiielves from being injured, and by-con- 
ee the Nation 
he Infurance of fureign Ships is now to bcconfidered. 




1 194 ) 

[nnot4,Gco applinl to, becaufewe inrure Jian cafy Rate, ami wc aab' 

U. Tip fuic at 10 caiy Rjtc,bccaulc wcarcofcen applied to. 
L/'YNk^ « Nor u ih« CbupaeCk of fitiu0i Inrumice, the «Dly lit»J 
llvi 10 the PrrfcicDCc ivliich it prcfeivci among Koiciguili 
who ue ipduced to apply to thii Nanon, by tbe KcpouiiM 
wlkkb ouf Meicbanu liave dcfervcdly gained, for I'rtibi^ 
and Piiik^uality, fupciior to that ut aoy uthcr Tradc/i. Out. 
Merchaiti^.Sir, bargain without .Artifice, paywiitiotit Sub 
fuges, and ate ie;idy oo ail Ocufions lo pic^ivc tier 
raueiai the Hix^rd cf tbeir Fru£t. 

< I'lom thc{c two Confiderationiive may draw guBfce- 
3bie Argmntrnj againll aoy RcllniEti uf^n the Pfadke rf 
Inluringi if Foicigner& are onccditappointcd in lb>ir Apfl>> 
cationi tou), our Bjdncfs wilj in a great Pan cealc j aadtU 
we diall Dot tben be able to inrure at lower Rzcts tfciD aW 
JVaiiont, «e flull never recover that Branch of our Tnit. 
And as ih« CharaAer of the Eoglifh Merchant! excapa 
ttiem from my Siipicion oi Pracuces pernicious to (be Pub- 
lic, why (hou;d they be rcil rained? Why, Sir. fboold t^ 
appear to be I'ufpected by the Le^ifUiure of their own Cooa- 
iry^wboiQ r'oieigrcr»truit witbcu Kcfitation t 
• It hat been cbjected to them wuh great Warmih, tad M- 

fed wiih much xtieioticat Exaggeratiun, that they al£A ik 
Incraici of their Country, that they prolong the War. inddt- 
feat tbofe Advuiagci uhicb our S.tuiiion and Cotamtitt 
tit.vt given us. Ioip'Ji3tIona fulTr.'teutly aitrtkciouj, if ihcy 
were founded upon I'ruih. 

' But let ui. Sir, examine the .VgumctlU by wh<h tVtt 
Accuraiion hat been luppo/tcd, and cu^uirc wbeti ' 
Triumph ot EJotjuence bai been occaliaBcd by my .- 
ji«riority cf Evidence or Rcilca. It U urged. ;ha£ v. 
already prohibited Commerce with ihc Spaniard}, ai. 
I s ictorc weoi^htiiiuwikto prohibit cbc inlunscco^tkn 
j^liipi' 

* It will not require, Srr.in Imagination very fcrtiV, 0* > 
Knowledge vcty cxicnftvc, to (np^ly Argumcnti (u^'l^i 
.to reJute ihii fuppofcd Dcmontlnuion ; ui Oppc^ 

which it m<y faemjjCiJ, tbat (his kind f' '" t" 

Mculuif Nature, tluit it lubhiU upoti 
fcrvedby the Repuiaiioo of our lofuitii . .> i\l . 
the InluMft of other NatJont may obuin : 
jDCan*. and from wliom we (haU thercioie r 
' lia\*y be obfervAl.Sir, ihatothci Cun 
MCuliar i'rodu^ of different C^ot;tries, an < 
Danger of io^ipg our other Trade by iu(ff 
. itdtpcnda upon the Exuilcocc of our ^Ubu:-£.:^jci ^ 




e Mont)- anj common l{ov.ei\y ut to be found'. H 174*^ ' 

This Argumenc mxy perhaps be yet more cficclually in- V^-/'"^^^^ 
rmlirfatcd, o* perhipi CRtitdy lubverted by (ieojing the Ex* 
>eJii.tii.cof that Prohibition which is produced a! a Prefident, 
"or zinaiher Reftrain:. Nor indeed does it appeal why wc 
hcnfd preclude ourMvei from a gtinful Trudc, becaufe the 
^oney ii drawn by it out of the Hinds of our Enemies ; 
>r 1^ hv the Prtxlud of our hindi {liould lie unccmrunied, or 
lur MiuufA^urci Hand nncmploycd, rather than we ftiould 
til to our Enemies what ihey will poichafe at another 
'lace, or by the Interveniion of a reutral Power. 

• To fell to an Ercmy ttint which may enable him to lo- 
nrc ui, thai wh'cb he mull DccelTirily obtain, and which he < 

lotd buy from iio other, would intteni be, to the lall degree, 
.b*\ird ; bat thit may furely be fold chem withoutioy Breach 
if Motility or Poliiry, which [)>ey con want with Icfs lo- 
lOnvenici'cc (ban ivc can keep. If wc were bcficging a 
Towr, I Ihou'd not advife our Soldiers to fell to the Inhabi- 
laat* Animiinliton or Proviiiuns, but cannot difcover the 
Folly of admitting them to purcharc Ornameuis for -their 
lloufet, or Btocxdet tor theirLadici. 

Bot, without examining with the utmoll Accuracy. 
whether the late Prohibition was rational or not, 1 have, I 
hope, luggcfled Objc^ions fuSicient to make the QueHion 
doubtfji. and to incline ui to try the Succefi of one Experi- 
ment before we venture upon another more hazirdou*. 

X am never wil ling, Sir. to load Trade with Rcflraintt i 
Trade it In iti own Nature (0 fugitive and variable, that no 
conliant Courfe can be prefcribed 10 it : aivd thofe Jlegah- 
ti'Jlii which were proper when they were made, itray in a 
kw Months become DtfiicuUiei and Obllmflions. We well 
know, thst many of the Meafurei which our Aoceflort por- 
fucd for the Encourjtgement of Commerce, have been found 
of pernicipu! Confcijuence; and even in this Age, which 
perttapi Etpt^nrncc more than Wifdom ha) enlightened, I 
hive known few Atiempti of that kind which bave Dot dc- 
featcd the F.nJ tut which they were made. 

It Is more prnricnt to leave the Merchants at Liberty to 
furritc ihorc Mcafiires which Experience fhall dIfUte upon 
every Ocoifton, and (uRcr them to Inaich the prefcnt Oppor- 
tunity of honell Gain whenever it (ball hippen ; they will 
D^Tcr injure their own Interell by the Ufe of this Liberty, 
and by piefcrving ihcmfcives they will preferve the Natioti 
from Detriincnr; ncr will they need to be reflraincd by 1 
Law propofed wiibout their Soltciiation, and of Which they 
canQC'l difcover any beneficial Conrcquencci.* 
■' Cci Mr 



C i9« ) 

"* Il^V-to*'^'' Mr. Hotttio W«]poIe. 

LxS*>^ Si«, 

Mr. Horat<> ' ^°' ^^ ^i^' ^°^ before nt T bftTC BO fsiticnlv F 

Waipole. iiefi, not Ddire that it flioold be proraatra bf itf t 

meant thin rational ArgumcDU uid the RepreftittH 

indublt<ib!e F&£ls. 

* I have DO Regard, Sir, in tbis Enqairy, to uyfi 
Interefl, or any other Defire tbtn that of {ecoring tv) 
reft of my Country, which, in my Opinion,. cvidm^ 
quires that we ftiould give no Afliftaoce to oar Eneaun, 
our Merchants Ihould co-operate with oor Navies, td 
we fhould endeavour to with bold every thing tku i 
make the War lers bordenfome to them, and cobUe^ 
of longer Continuance. 

* It was obferved, Sir, in the Beginning of the Dd 
^jr ' by a Gentleman eminently (killed in mercantile ASiir^ 
Wm Inrorance was pra^lifed by many Nationii buthedii 
^^'' inform us of what one of the Cliufei mikcs it pn|i 

enquire, whether they allowed the Method of' infariM 
reft or no Interefl, and ratine Ships st an imagioiblcll 
This is, I know, is prohibitra by the Dutch t a Natitai 
Authority on commercial Qiieftions will not be difnni 
do they allow their Eaft-Tndia Ships to be iofurco atil 

* The Difficulty of eltimating the Value of any i 
hat been urged in Defence of this PraAicc, nor B dl 
fence wholly without Weight, becaufe the Cargo ia 
Voyages cannot be afccitained. I (halt, however, lal 
Opportunity of oVcrving. tbo' I may fomewbat digicl 
the prefent Argument, how nccefTary it ii that tomti 
exported Cargoes fhould be exactly fpecified. 

< I have been lately informed. Sir, that fix Slupi 
with Briti/h Wool, have entered at one time imo* J 
f ranee ; nor do i know how this PraAicc, which it 
complained of as pernicious to our Tiade, and thici 
the Ruin of our Country, can be prevented bat by a c 
and regular Particulariution of every Cargo can 
france. 

* I admit, Sir, that fome Cargoes wbich are !■ 
cannot be particularly regillercdi fuch is tha Gial 
which we are daily fupplicd by our Commerce .wi 
French in Oppofition to their J,awa, and which vm 
chants are therefore under the Neceflity of coBoeali^ 

* It it not indeed eafy to forefee all the lacmiTa 
thnt may arife from new Regulations of -Commerce i 1 
Difficulty is not To great as has been reprefented, no 

o 



I 



( ^91 ) 

ittwhjr itl oarConfuliitlon* on Trade fhould bewitfi. Annoi4,Gco. 
IteQ. Cicniltfnicn may obnin fame Knowlnlgc of *' ''■*"- 
from their own Obfcrvition. which they miy en- ^''''V"''^-^ 
Elf ir . cA and Jndi.Tcrenc L'onvcrfiiion wiili 

Tidbn o/ k ._>>i(rn, xnd by En^jtiines inio the i'lfic' 

5o of Cc*minercc j F.nqoinef, Sir, which arc gc- 
t'efleii ty thufc whole EmplDymenii coofitit their 
Co jnrtkuljT Parti of Commrrce, or wliofe Ap- 
10 Bufinrfi hinders them from attentjing to any 
but tbo(e which their own perfocal Expeiieaco 
_ h«» to form. 

From thffr InfonMticMii impanlaUy roUcfled, and dili- 
jf compuci, a AtiR not cngjgrd in the PrufdEon of a 
cMftt miy form gtncnl Pnnciplei, 3cd draw Confe- 

-— am, and more ntr nftve in their RrUtioni, 

are ftnick ou: onlj- from the Obfcrvation of 
Ki^iu ->|>ccie» of ComiDCTce. 

abrr of thti tloufe, Sir. ihos enlightened bjr En- 
1 wbofe lodgment is not dlvrrred from its natural 
.by ite frnpalfc ol an/ private Confidcration. n«y 
efapy commeiciat Debate trtth led l)*Bgct of Error 
finality than thr Merchanti, of whom rtTvctihcIeft [ 
ibe bifbell F.lleeio, and vvhofe Knowledge or Probity 
Jauad to depreciate, when [ declare my Fean, ihat 
letimci corfiiunH gerrr.il Maxims tifTrade 
i:cn of paitku'at Bonchc!;, and foDietitnei mif> 
in farthe Intercfl of the Public, 
iif the Merchants ought indeed always to 
ir ihii Hoofe ; but then ir ought to be regarded 
lrn>tion to that of the whole Coaimuiiity, a 
ion which the Geitilemiu] wiia fpoUe tall feemsto 
He cBiy pcrhapi not intend long to retain 
il CharaArr, aod therefore delivered his Opintoa 
Ere bant. 

|lllingtii|>cd between the CoitduCl of experienced 
(nturert, with how touch Jiiflke I llial] not de< 
I Un afraid ttiat i vigorous Enquiry wt-uld dilco- 
' oeitbcr Age cor Vauth bas been able to refill Arong 
it to fome Pradicea, which neither Law not Juf- 
fopport, and that thofe whofe Experience bat made 
cantiQUt, hare net been always ec|ua!iy hoocll. 
lactbii ii a Subje£t upon which I am not iiicUoed to 
II. and oeity mention at the Rcafon which convinces me 
*rrpricty U the Bill before us.' 



Sif 



^it^*"' SirWlMinnyonge. -. '' 

SirWiiU«m * There appears no Probability that (h^ 
YoDge. nicns which have been formed of this fiiHj 

cited by tliis Debate i nor indeed is tliere a 
jvondcripg ai chis Concrariety of Scntirocms. , 
* The fcveral Claufcs ofEhefj]] have ftrlil 
fequenccj (q difTcrcnc, ihai fcarce any rce Md 
themaHlj and in our prereni DeliberaiioB au] 
pariicufer Llaufe is confidercd as an Ar^umfl 
whole Bill J 

' It is thericfore nscelTarj' to prevent an oi 
pCEMoF Time, to rcfolve [he Houfc into a 
which ihe BJIJ may be confidered by finglcCS 
part which cannot be defended uiay be rcii 
on!y TCtiirrcd which deferves our Appiabation* 
mitu?, when we have conildertd ihe firli CIa( 
the ObJEflionsagainrt ir, we may aierd it j oJ 
amtTided. rej^H or poflpone it, and fo procew 
whok EiU wiih miich £ieatcr Expedition, a« 
lime with a more diligent View of every CJaua 
^e are obliged to take ihv whole hi once imqj 



tion. 

* I /ball for my Parr approve fomc Cla, 
Objeflions looEhcTii but tjiink it proper to 
jfflions, and iht Hcafufis ofmy Approbatfo™ 
miiiLec into wiiich we ought [o go on this Og 



• Thi BUI Uftlf tw «j AJiv^ 
A Bill to prevent iomc IccMivenicncies j|-| 

aiicctof Ships, 

Wbtnai U hath been fiitftJ ly txpti-itjKt 
Afurench, hterrj} or na Initrtp^ hatb it- 
maty ptmuium PraSLes, 'whertbi great Al 

■lyish their Cnygsii, ha'ui been f.etndulently i 
tmd n great Encouragement ti the Exportatfoai 
rarrfhg en many Dihcr probihUtJ and (Umfefi^ 
art ihtrth /rcrettd, and the Fartiri cencen^ 
l-ofs, at iwj/ 10 the DhniKUikii ef the f^al^/ti 
iht great Dttnmsni aad U/t sf the fuir 7>.| 
froduiing nrt illrgai end nri/chU'voe! k*nd of Clt 
%. undtr the PiiUnct pf cjurifi« the JW 

•J^r Iradf, tirt ItijluHtiaa and hudable DM 



< '99 ) 

litlwas rcfcrr'dto a Coininic(cc,but not forty Mem- Anno 14, Geo. 
09 in the Hoale, it wasdropc. H- i?^- 

1 to the Report of the Mutiny and Derertion-Bill: 
it to beengrofled. 

nnd Committee, went thro* the Bill for opening a 
ro'Ruflia to Perria, with levenl Amendment!!, 

ad. Kead a third time, and pHl-d the Bill for pu- 
rlatiny and Desertion, and for the better Payment of 
r.and their Quarter!! : Ordered it to the Lords 
into a grand Committee on the Bill fur the Encou- Pr-cccding 

of Seamen* and for the Tpcedier Manning his Ma-"" ^^^ 
n, when the firft Claufe bcri.g read, pr.-pufing the ^'■■""•'"' '*'" 
obe fiird thus, that every Voluntler Seaman, after 
(Service, be entitled to Six Pounds p«r Year, durirg 
John Barnard exprefled himfcif ai ibllows: 

Sir 

A itt* per*utrttdi anti that ivhich tvas iifttKdcd for 
rrngtrntMl eT Trait and}iavigatiim,beiomt$ burtjut of, 
tdiv* lo tkt Jamt. 

•mtdj txhtrn/, and for the c^r3ual putting a Stop ta, 
irtvtntimg the tiki tm'Viarruntalh l'racli:ii fjy tbt 
3i it €na:hd, i£c. That all FJuai, Injirumtuttj 
, «■ Piomi/ts ef Jff'urtLmt^ made f. om and after 
f ir ta Imertjt, and Policies 'Uixlmd iii tli Sum affiir- 
htul furtbir Protf ef Inti-fjl, than t'jt Pulicj, or in 
Iftrdi or Manner, to that w ll-i faint EffeSl i tr upon 
tthir Vf£th or deeds ^ loadtn sr to hi laadtn tbirton^ 
bona tide upon Inttrefi^ Jhallbe^ and art btrtbi dt' 
void) any La-iu, i.'atuie, or Cujlom to tbt etntraiy 

ifi not'Viithfiandiug. 

Udai-jui^s, rbatnolbing in tiis J.Q cvilained. fiall ex- 
<€ tonfirutd to extend, to •vatate ir make iiaid any jljfu- 
adt nxiikaut Fraud, upcn Intercjl '/* tht. fubtlt, graay 
tit Sum for 'u:hicb tkt .loured ft. all appear la It ton- 
tbt Vrfftl, er Gsjdt ficjit'td. 

ied eiv.-a\if that nuiit.^ in this Aci attained, Jhall 
• auiki void any A^utamt mad; upon Account of Mb- 
nfme Refpondcatij, c/- Bitamrt.-^ Btr.di, in '■^hUh tbe 
' Salvage ij allvived tbt Lender ; nor aiij Affurante 
la fide, to rt-a£urt any Sum before ajjiired, on ary Ships 
, fr /beir Cargoes i prruidtd tbe fame he mentioned ia 
t 19 hi Re affurante, or en Money f Imt en Refpon- 
^ iMitmrtt Btndt. 

■iinreas by fememl A^i of Parliaments tbt SuhjtSt of 
^thm i« general art retrained ff em tradi^ to tbe 

Eafi. 



( 20O 



Anna Mt Geo- 

sir JoM 




Si R. 

• As it hour Duty to provide Law?, by 
and Opj>rtiEons may be puniihed, when it _ 
wc are nalcfs obiigeJ to obviate fuch Pra^ices 
PuniQimtnts necesrary ; nor are we only to bcj 
iL-fliois, bmukca^vay. as far as it is pplfible.ehe 
of Guilt. It is to no Paipok Punifhn^enis arc 
they can be evadtd, or tha.i Rewards are offered^ 
by any mean Aniike* be withheld, 

' For this Rcafoo, Sir, I think it neceflary fl 
tbe Inter.i oriliis Claufe^ the raoH ^voarab''! 
Oaufe in the 3\\i, majr Icfe ita E%A by a Pt 






£<iy?- IjrJin, anJ the JhU Jiight cf tradittg 
iifJifJift ibe uff itc J Company of Af^rciranJf sjT 
ti the Ee^ hJiti ; Kaiiuilb^SSiiitig 'VL'hiih, ^-tffign 
madt in Grtal Briiasn upon Shipj «nd EfftSi A 
Suhjtfii sf ffTtign Naihni or Pf^vrrt traJimg U 
dill : Be it fatthtr tna^tdf hj the jiuthsrit^ ajbr. 
^JfvraKtez madt afttr tbt Daf V" 

iVii'frj or to t6i SuI'jeHs ll-trtef", trading to aitd J 
Indiest or from ere Part ihtrtrf to anathi 
and taktn to bt [void] lo ell laitnti, Co73jiiu£i: 
P^fii •whatjite'uir. 

4>td vihireai AJfaraait on the Ship or E 
alitn Enemies ra ikh Km^dfrn^ ert grtatfy pr, 
true Inttrtfi ihertef, and upon the Cafture rj" ft, 
f Sit the real Laft JujiGir.ed tftiii falls upm th 
Great Britain, *wj6fl bam;/ made fsKh /l^uraneei^ 
tisadtd, by the Autbontv afarffaid, tbat nf Affk** 
to bt made dirtily or indireSiy on anf the Si»bt or 
Subjtiii fj any Fringe nr Stale, mi rn Amity -wk 
of Great Britain, at ihe Time /vch AffarafKt I 
be of any Fsrre or Faltdity in La-w i. but Jhatt At 
latently ConJJruSisn:, and Purpfts ivhatjorver, 

Prwidtd ai'iaaji, ihal if bit Majefiy fkt^tl^ 
during the prefent War^ think fit, in Parfuaner^-i 
ttntained in en Ad made in the lafi SeJ^vr. «f p 
tiiitd^ An Ail for prohibiting Commerce with 
^ ihe Prohibilians and RefiriSions rf dommurctt 
thereof; then, end is fuch Cafe, it Jhalland 
make AJfu-rance an facb Cammerie, or afty p^^ 
thiȣ btmn iantaimd to tbt antrary nttvjiibfl^ 



( 201 ) 

Amp^n hv wliiffc my Mjb, hov^ivcr incliofd CO ftrre kit Appo t«, Cto. 
;< d(fnm<icd uf the Righi ot « Viiluniier. *' 'T-t'^- 

.J have volururilj' applied lo chc OfficcfS of \./t'^'^ 
ami uttrr having btcn rcjeflni by ihcm a* 
;xrvicc. tiRve been drsggcd oo BoArd wichia a 
tft, pcrhAp* hiihin a few Miiyrs .'.rieiwanis, to under- 
ib«Hi)id{bipi, wuboat liic Mernof VoiUiiIicrs. 
When any Man, Sir, h«* been rrjcflcd by the Sn-OfS- 
' to hive 3 Certificate givca bim, which fliali be 
'roai Aa li]ipirii,ihai, ti »ay other Commander 
r ."i.jre fivounbly o( his (^alitications, he m^iy al- 
(ihc P;i%-ilcge oti VotiintKf, xnd be entitled to ihc 
'wiiich be dclcrved, by hia Readinds to enter the 

.bcf'ice. 

It ;och PravifioRi are not matlr, this hatrful PraAlce. a 

t. Sir, cominon and notonoiii, aod very difcouriging 

II would ffiter the Sfrvice of the Public, may fu fir 

ia>), ihii HO Mad 0isll be ab!e to denominaie Itimrclf « 

''oinaticr. ordsim the Reward propofnl by tbe Bill.* 

Sir Darin Wager 
Sir. 

!: it not commoji for Men :o receive Injufies without *m,„,41 
pptyi&g fur Rcdrcl'i, when it nuiy certainly beobtained. If Wac^- 
y Prixaediflgilike tbolc which arermvcompliincd of, had 
ftii at the Bc4rd of Admiratty, (hey hid been 
.«nrurcd and rcdrelledi but i> no tuch Accufa- 
: red, I ihtnk it m»Y pn>bably becoocluded, that 
pe itrt have been committed. 

• rgT ntiit Purpofc Oppretiiutji oF thli kind lliould be 
pn^ded, il BOt eafv (o conceive ; lor the Officeti are not 
Halt rtwarded for laiptrHing Saiton, As ihcrerorc tc is 
probable thu any Man tfli wickedly or ctuclly wichsat 
ipcaiiofl; 41 I have r^cvc beird uny lucti Injury com- 
of by thnfc that Itiftcr'd it, 1 cannul b«it imagine, that 
r Report!, which »ri{e from Millake, or arc 

'dt, . ;a iRJure tbe OSccti, uul ubflrjd the S&t- 




i 



I BiUimore. 

'That the PrafticT now complalnei! of. is verv fte- 

"I, asd, whatTVfr may be the Tetrptat'Oti to it, (iich aa 

-> Day jirDdiicti tome InttiiKei of. I have Reai'on* I'or al- 

C With great Confidence. J b^ve, within tfaefe few 

^P.M I woi accidcniall/ upon the River, icforio'd inylcif 

^ tMB Wateriaca ienomioioun* dniu'^ by Po«c« into the 

V,t VII D i ** ' Service 




Sir John 
Ko/ijji. 



( 202 ) 
Anno i4,GeoScrvice CO which they hud iraluotarily offirr'd theaiffiw 

a 17*0 few Day* before, lb* Realon* of fucli OpptcfT 
^»T^^ Bufioefs of ihofc Grotkioea w tnqiure, whom H_ 

coirulU with the CVe of bin FWtt but to inutrdfK tki' 
Courfc of Wickedncff, to hinder it frp:n huftntuig tkr lU- 
wards offier*d by the Publk, Ji the Provioc* of the Rqirrta* 
tatives of ihe People. Aod I hope, S:r. toflic rroTdb«ifl|' 
nude in ihi&Cafe.' 

Sir John Norru. 
Si R. 

* If my fuch Pra£bcn bid been frequent, to v,%in 
be imputrd, chut thofc who emplo)' tiicir Urei m Mi 
Bufinefs fbould be Scnngcrs to ihcm f Why lure do 
Dlsinis been made by (hole that hare been irjarcu t Ot 
Inould Officers cxpofe themfelvs to the hm:d of 
without Advantage.' I uotiol difcover why tbefr " 
ftimlij be inB.^ed, nor how they raald have beert cc 
atKl therrforc think the Officer* oi the Navy may beef 
from the Imputation, ^vilhollt fiirlhcr Enquiry.* 

Sit johfi Barmrd. 
S 1 a, 

' It is in raia that Ob;e£tion5 are made, if the FaOi 
which they are fouoded may be dented at ptealcic . ji\ 
thing i< tnarccaly tlua to aeny. becaule Proofs arc nee 
quired of « Negaitve. BjI »% Nrg»ttvei require 00 PtOOC 
fo they hare no Authority, nor can any Coo(ct)urbctr l.t Ji 
duced from them, t might tbeiefjte fuffer the : 
rosin 10 tbcir prefcnc State, alEeried on one lideL^ :. 
have Rcalxins to belwve thrm, and donbtrd oa I) 
without Keaibot . for fuiely he etnnoi be Eaid to taSoti? 
quellJOD» an AiTcrtioa oaly becaufe he does not kcow it le br 
true. 

' Bui as every QueRloB by which the Liberty ot a] 
may beaffcAed.it of Importance fufficitni toirquite tliMl 
Evidenre (hould be fnpprcfled by whkh it m»y be 
1 cannot but tbinh it proper that a Comminec IbonAll 
formed to exsminc the Cotidjft of the OSccri ia ilitt flB' 
licular i and, in Confidence of the Veracity of thoft 
whom 1 received my Infoitnation, I here promifeco 
fuch Evidence ai fliaU pot an find to CODironHy 
Doubt. 

• If tliii is not granted, Sir, the PaAmofl fimd nCBttd 
and allowed ; for to doubt, Bt>d rcAife Evidence, a a D^iv 
rf Prejudice aikd ObQinacy tvithoui Examj-le. N'orutlfa 
loc ddIv <Jbjcilioa to the Claud before u\ which appon 

«7 



S:r John 
tHarnatxL 



( 103 ) 

■nth re^d lo tti« Qualifications l*peci£ed at Anun i' 
Uk Rcwtfd. The RcM-tnl ought not kj be con> i* i74'J> 
%ko fiult hereafter be invited by the Protnilc ef 
in dieSctvice, while tliofe who cnctrcd into tc 
ny fach Profpcd, sre condemtied to Dangers and 
ithcMit *■ ftficompcace. Where XIrrit it e(]iial, 
■%i ougUt to be rquAl i and lurciy where there J9 
rt:. iiic Keward, |)ropoled by the I'lrlianicnt as aa 
iracot to Bravery, oughc noi to be JcU. To be 
^rom U)c Advantigei which others kivc obtained 
voiding (he Service, cannot bin depref^ the Spirit 
bofc Zrjl and Courage incired them, at the Begin- 
c War, to enter into the FIcex i lod to dejc^ thole 
I ive exped Defcoceand Honour it ocitber pru- 
lit 

< If, in my Oprnion, proper to offer the fame Re- 
licrluinatcly to all UM (tnW accept ici Rewants 
•^"riiuurd to Delert, and oo Man can jullly 
y -1 cannot perform ; there ooghr, therefore, 

t j.'iii<[icUon made between a Seaman bj* FtuffffioD, 
II Icarneii his Arc at the Expcucc of long 1-jipe* 
bour and Hamrd, and a Man who only enten the 
(e be iiutclef] oo f^nd, and whocin only incoin* 
Mitori (ill he has be^n tnllrmHcd by chetn. 
ein, Sir. to lue a coo^derable Dcfe^l in our N.ival 
u. (bat Wngej are noc proportioned to Abiiiij^ ; 
ic it niiy not be now unfcafonably propofcd, that 
itU be paid according to the Skill which ihey 
ndt a Provilion by which an KmuUiioa wouUl be 
l{ ihcD, and that |ndul>ry excited, wJiich now 
For wanr of Kncoungrment t sr.d thofe Capacities 
^ " -mbcr ill Ignorance anil Sloth, froin 

■■^ any Advantage by Superiority of 

tft W*lp6l«. 



hii Cbarge, Sir, however pofuively urged, ii gt- Sv tLri^m 

-' ■ '■- Dcclartiioni of tbrle Hooouiabk Gerr Walpoli 

' to evince, ftnce it ii oot probable that 
I riDiit would not have found faoie i-rienJ to 
Bicd ihc/c Mirdfhipt (o the Admiralty, and no 
Vataiiont could have been made withont their 



Cai from doubting that, by AccJest, or 

., foinc Men have been iientfd in ibii 

yil no( in ihe Power uf lay /Umiaittiattoo 

D d : in 




( «<>4 ) 
luM»t4,Geo to nuke all thoft honcR or wife whom thty *n nbVigcii n, 
^ II. IT*-,, employ i and vvhcn grtai Affairs »re dcpemiirg. nunuw: O'- 
^l^'VNJ cumit^DCC) csnciot jlwayj be aiccrided lo If the Vig\U»i«| 
of thofe who art entrahcA utih ihechitf Dirrilioool 
NumbeTS of fubordinate Olficera be fuch, that ccirfBp<.j 
Itcei ire not frequent, »t\d thrir Jtiitice lucb, thai tt 
never unpaniOied when legail)' detcflcd, the mod fli 
quirer can cxpe^ no tnore. Power wiU to(ne:imei L« 
ami PuairbTncfit romnimei be rfcspcd. 

■ I: is, Sir, cafy to be conceived ihil a Rrpon mj 
tttme grneral, iho* the Pradice be very rare. The FjA 
tnuitiplied at often as it )a related, andcviry Mau m) o 
the fame Story twice, imaginn that it ■■ laid < ' 
foni. and excUims agaiaH the Tytann^r of tnc c :.. — 
Ntvy. 

* Bui thefe, in my Oplnino, Sir. arc Qoeflin'*- 
remote from the prereut AfFttr, yet hy no meAni < 
it. The Qoedkitt now before n* it, not what l>« 
hare hero cotnmttled in the Execution of Irnpiefftrft, 
JmprefTrs ihemfelves tnay become left itecciLry i M( 
Naiton may be fecurrd uithout Injury to Individusii f 
how the Fleet may be manned u'iih left Dctmnent to C« 
merce ? 

* Sir, the Reward now propofed {■ intended la e i 
Men to enter the Srrvice without Compn'fion ; and if 
Expedient be no: approved, soother ought to be fuj^_ 
Fur I hope Gentlemen arc united ir> their Endejvoutt ulI 
ojt loipe Method of Security (o the PuWiC, and dof 
ilfi'fl (he Proceeding! of the Comottdce, that. 
Fleet* lie ina^Lve and ufcicfi. they mty have ia 
iiity to repraicb the Mtmliry.* 

6ir John Norrli. 
S tt, 

■ 7*ho' it it not r^ceffyiY to enter into «n scTDrfK 
mination of the Geailcman'i Propofat, yet 1 canaat 
bbfen'e, that by making it he difcovrrs hinifell unacc 
with the Difpofiiion of Seamen. itnt>ng whom tKKbioj 
fomiich Difcoittent a? the Sufpiciori of Pirmlity. 
one Man, in the fame Rank, rcrcive larger V\'i|[ci 
other, be who rhotwht htmfr'f injurei, aj he whe 
irfi will atways think, would be to far from rjiet 
Abilitiei to attain >n K^mlity >k!ih liii AlTucutc, tlml 
w6iild pn^baltlv never he prevailed on to lay ki^ Miirid 
the 'I'ackting. '■ ilt ij'.ltn, or wori; : v, 
i^.e Ship xvciv :. ^ '" * iico/ui, Of tiik.' 



lit J ihn 
Norm. 



»Ir. 



( i05 ) 



G«rc. 

!Dia£<T0f int.-oJucing DiflinflioBi imongMrt in 
lUak, where rvcij- M^n that imagmei h'n M<rit 
Imt^y tiare an Opponuniiy of ittenttiig the Injury, 
lacb U no prodcnt Comniiindcr wtU venture to 

*-fyn in ttiii Or« brcomes ihe judge of Mi own 
tte will always ililcovcr {ome Kcat'on Tor th£ 
. u. *oo:hcr veiy difftrm: from Supcnoriiy cf De- 
li by er)nirc|ucnce, be etcher enraged ordirpiricrd. 
R^olrr 111 d«-(ett hU Commander, or betray him 
nifi.oraoi oppolc ihem. 
nbcr, tho* iinperfe£lly, a Story which 1 heard in 
ttf «n Army in which looie Troopi received a 
' rft than the rcil i a Parritnofly which coft dear 
Bftttle. for (he difgallfJ Troop liid down 
the Eoemjr, and luScrod Uietr Geoeral to 



Annntj.Gca 
II.l7t:. 



Mr. Core 



Wade. 

». 

tcMwiOt botcanctu with (he Honourshte Gentletnan ia cenenl Wad* 
ihu thoCe who tre already engagcil io the 
have borntiie F>iiigueiof a long Voj'X^c* and 
: thU Hour rxpofing (heir Livct In Bjitle to 
.. . ,, ^:hu of iheir Lountry, ought (o have the Uroe 
« ctxr Rcwird pTopolcd with (bote who (hi!l hcre- 
<Ax ihcnfelvei. Nor in my Opinion ought thoJe 
!•< knhcrto been prrlTed loio our Fleets lu be diC 
fron their Duty by an Exrlufion from the lame 
ige; For if they were compelled to ierve in the 
' ompelled when there wai not thu Edcou- 
nileri, which, prrhapi, they would ham 
.-:U been then propoted. Every M->n it leaO 
^t he would hnvc accepted it, and compbin he 
by tt.e Fault oi' the Governmrnt ; a Govcro- 
*itf v.iU not be very zcaltiui to defend, while he 
• tit Regard than otbcri ftooi whom no 
-p espcded. 

: new Rewordt, Sir, will add new Ala- 
'1X1, and ao cqaal Dillrlbuiian ol Favour 
an unihakm and iovblable Fidelity. Nothing 
OD produce Saccer<, and nothing can fcctue Union 
aautialitr uii jiillice.* 



( 206 > 



Aiuto 14. Geo 
II 1740- 



Sun. S«nd>'A, 
Efti 



Mr. Siodyi. 

Sm. 

» The Efficacy of Rewardi. and the Ntctfiiij' 
partial Dinribution, are no aofroitful Subjcdi ior 
but it may perhaps Lc more uCe(u\ ai present to ecu 
foch I Dcgrre of Attention as the Qjcilion tnult fa 
ledged to beferrc. to whom theft Rewardi art tl 
and from what Fand they areexpeAed to ink. 

With regard to thole who ate to claim the Ri 
ihcy (eem very negligently fpecificd i fur ihry 
guifhed only by the Charaflcr of having fcrvcd fi 
a JDiflindion unintcjigible, without ExpUnatioa. 

• It is, I Tuppofe, Sir, the Indent of the BiQ^B 
fiiall mifs the Reward but by hii own FjhIi, t^^^ 
may be ctiquired, what ii to be the Fate of hh 
be difabled in hit firit AdvcMure, whoui iti the i 
Month of his Service, an unlucky Shot ihaM corn 
RtnainiDg Part of hii Life to Inactivity ; Ai (be 
formed, he mult be mircrablc without a R«oi»{ 

Ilia Woundi, which m-ike him uiublc to foppQ 
will, tho* received in Defence of hu Couctry. < 
to no Support from the Public. 

• Kor » thii the only DrScuIty that may- arij 
rpccifyiog of fo lorg a Service i for huw cui aoy 
fhall enter on board the Fleet be tnfornied that lb 
contiaue for five Veari i May we not all juAlj' 
Alacrity, Unanimiry, and Prudence, may id « idi 
Time redutx our Enemies to beg for Peace > Am 
Sailors loft that Reward of iheir H3xard) ird tbcti 
only becanfe they ha«e been rucccrifu! i What wi 
lela than miUing their Bravery a Chtne or Foil] 
aifhing them far aot protrailing the War byCiM 
Treachery* 

• But let us foppoic, Sir, thofc Defefli fupplird ! 
crplicite and dctcrmtnxe Specification, ihcrr w-ilM 
an Objeiiioa which the prefent Suee of - ;J 
not fufer to be anfwered. The Cot a 
Greamefs of the annual Paymenf which ihi> Prop 
qtjtrei, ooght to incite cTery MantocropJoT all bitj 
in learch of fonc other Method equally cfiacMai 
expcnfive. ■ 

« W» ham already. Sir. ^o.coo Se»men la oor 
wkoBi Roc» more arc fpeedity to be added ; «vht4| 
tbefc fhall demaftd his Stipend. ■ new Hiinhea oTl 
mat be laid upon the Nsiioc i opon a Majiea. whM 
arc mortgaged, whofe Rcvrnuci are antkipand, M 



J 



( ao7 ) 

TiKf cannot be bornewuhout Murmurs, nor increafed with- Anno 14, Geo 

•i Sedition. !LiJi?' 

• The Nation has found by Experience, that Taxes once ^^-rY^S^ 
imoU for jult ReafoDs, and continued upon plaufible Pre- 
laaa, till they are become ^miliar, are aftenvards continued 
^oa Motives Icfi laodable, are too produ£live ofloiluence, 
lid ■» iDftrumenul towards facilitating the Meafurei of the 
fiaifti^, to be ever willingl}^ femictcd.' 

CM. Bladen. 
Sib. 

* Itii obvious that when the Balance it unequal, it may be Coi. Blader:. 
^tevdlo an Equitibrium, ai well by taking the Weight out 
'one Scale, ai adding it to the other. The Wages oflered 
' the Mcfchants overbalance, at prcfcnt, thofe which are 
tipaliBd by the Crown ; to raifie the Allowance in the Ships 
: War. will be to lay new Loads upon the Public, and will 
CflModc the Merchants, whofe Wages mult always bear 

• fame Proportion to the King's. The only Method then 
■e maaiDs, is to lighten the oppofice Scale, by retrain- 
f Cbe Merchants from giving Wages in Time of War be- 
ad a certain Value; for as the Service cf the Crown is 
■■■ore immediately necLiTary to the general Advantage, 
■■ thai of the Merchants, it ought to be made more gam- 
i. Saflon, Sir, are not generally Men of very exrenfive 
Wt'i tad therefore we cannot cxptA tlat they Ihould pre- 
^Acgeaeral Good of their '. <;. :iy before their own pre- 
H iMETcft, a Motive of I'uch 'c -vcr that even with Men of 
vioBiRekarchcs, relin'iiSent>nicnt&,.indgFneroui>£iIiJcation, 
tfiem often that it lurmounti every uthcr Conlideratlon., 

LcKd Baltimore. 

Si a. 

' To the Expedient which the HonourabV ^■^i,t]en)r,n Lord 

• ^ke lift ha» fuggellcd,nnd which hr . .^e confrlled ^'imur^-. 
have placed in the ttrongelt Light, r- ■ .- 'jujcflions may 

aaifed, which I am afraid ^ill no' ■■:- be removed. 
' The Srff,- Sir, which onurs : -<.- on thi' Oiort Reflec- 
I li not le(s than the Impofliv.' ::> of putting .^is Scheme 
DBOatioa. The Prefcripdun a Wsgcs which he propc- 
miMjf be eluded by a thou-^nJ Artifices, by iidvinced hla- 
y|||y gratuitoui Acknawic gments, the Payment of Money 
■aaesded Services, or by lecrct Contra£li, which it uiil 
■■ latereft of both Parties to conceal. 
Boi if thisObjcQion could be furmounted by Severity and 
Baooe, would not this Eipedient help to dcleat the gc- 
I laication of the Bill ? A Bill not dil'gned ai an imme- 
diate 



inno 



14, Geo 
IL 1740 



Mr. Tracy. 



Mr. R>4«. 




( 108 ) 

i'ate Rerource, a ncre temporary Projcft la 
Fieeijforti c prercntYeir. butai a M"ho(i for tt 
only OnitiuAion of the Britilh Power, ibc Difficulty otfi 
■ing ouc Sbipi of War. 

* It u. I hope, Sir. the Intrntion of every Nfas who \axt 
fered h'li Sentimenu on thit OccaHon. to conuivc ioac 
n\ Encourage ED enc for Shiiicd, wliich finll oot cmiy 
tbcm to iSiA their Country at itic i\ti\ Summoat, Im 
allure orhers to qualify thrmr<ivci fur the public Scnricc»l 
cogagiagin the lame PtoUfSion. 

• rbu is Dili/ la be (tone by making the Ctndatimd 
Sailors lerimifcrablc, by entitling ihrm to p.- . 
nouriog ihem with Uillin^'ons. Bui by Ii 

chants Wagci.if fuch Limiuiiona are indeed pDl:.bic, 'f,i-^ 
we may palliate ihe prefent Dilireli, we dtall tlimmifit 
Number of oar Sailats, ajul, thereby, oot oaly coBindl 
Commerce, but endanger our Coontry-' 

Mr. Tncy. 

SiK. 

' I know not for what Reafons the prefent MeihoJ 
rancing Rcwraidit ai entrance ii pi^tiiled, of whicfa, 
fpccioui il might appear, the Succcis by no ffieana encc 
the Continuance. The Sailors, tho* not a Gct»r] 
Men much difpofcd to Reflexion, or qualified for Kai 
lion, are not yet fo votd of Thought as not cifily to : 
that a fmall Incrcafe oF conlliint Wagei is of ra«~e 
ibui (cTcral Pounrli to be paid only at once, and wkkk 
Iquiftdeied airoonatifaey arc received. 

• Infiead iheielore of rellraining the Waen of the 
cJiaot), il feems probable that, by railing lliok of the ' 
we may man the Fleet with molt kxpedicion : aaJ 
Metliod ot raifiag the Wage* wilt be co fapprefa the adi 
Mon.y.' 

Mr, Ryder (Attoroey General} 
Si a. 

• If the Sum of Money now paid by Way oT Adi 
be ftippowd to hare any ElTc^, if it an be imagint 
Nnmber of Seamen, however inconfidcnbV. are 
ii into the Fleet, i: is more ufrfully r. rSan h 
fuppofed robe when funk intothec.t ^e», 
d«l into fmsll Payment* 

The Advance-Money Is only poid to ibofe tdat eo* 
no Voluniiera prefVni ihcmfelvr*, no MoDcy ii paid, ai 
Nation doth not fulTcr by the Olfei : Bot if the WafcaMI 
nifrd, the Ejipcncc will be certain, whhout cbc Ccrnmy ■! 



uii 



(209 ) 
iJiUtt{e; for thoTe that enter volantarily into the Fleet, Annot4,Geo^ 
MU receive no more than tfaofe that are forced into it by an ^'' '74^ 
iMncfi; and therefore there, will be nolnclttment to eater C^^^V^^^ 
vinesc Compulfion. Thui every other Inconvenience will 
llHUl, with (he Addition of a new Burthen to the Nation ; 
•■r Forcea will be maintsiDcd at a greater Expence^ and not 
miU with leT) Difficulty.' 

lord Baltimore. 
Sit, 

* I ciDBot but concur in Opinion with the Hon. Gentle- . Lord 
warn wbo Ipoke lall, from my own Acquaintance with the Biliimor^ 
SniMnn and Habits that unaltenbly prevail among thofe 

Wkm kavc been aecuftom'd to the Sea ; a Race of Meo to the 

fcft Degree negligent of any future Events, and carelefa about 
.luiv novifion againft diiUnt Evils i Men who have no 

Tfeaaghcs at Sea bat >how to reach the Liitd. nor at Land 

bvMv to Iqaudcr what they have gain'dat Sea. To Men 
JSkm Chefe it may eafily be imagined tiiat no Encouragemeot 

iiMHl to the Temptation of prefect Gain, and the Oppor^ 

MW17 of prefcDt Pleafure. 

; 'Of Ail any Mao, Sir, may convince himfelf, whofliall 
MBt 10 s Crew but half an Hour ; for he ihal] find few among 
l^dNM* *ho will not for a foull Sum of prefenc Money, fell 

■^ diftant Profped of Affluence or Happincfi. 
L * Wkctlur I am miftaken in my Opinion, the honourable 
^JilBbenwbo have long commanded in the naval Service, 
'^OHI 06I7 determine ; and I doubt not but they will agree, 
MotiveciD be propofed to a Sailor eijuivaient toim* 
I Reward.* 

fir Wmian Yonge. 
Sir. 

* That fbme DiAinQIon ought to be made to the Advan- _. T»-it'^ 
fe|eofVoIuntiers, if we intend to mannour Fleet without Yonge. ' 
MBpuifioo, ii obvious and incontelUbii:; and to avoid the 
Mnffity of Compulfion ought to be the chief End of this 
Ml lor nothing can be lefs ta the Advantage or the Nation, 
An ID continue the Ufe of fach ungrateful Methods, an^ 
ynkcrcare thepublic Expence. 

■ Wt ought, therefore, in my Opinion, to determine upon 
MM pecoliar Reward, either to be advanc'd upon their 
Ikhbcs into the Service, or paid at their DiTmiffion froia 

■Bntma I Ck, Sir, noReafon for hoping that all the En'-' 

■Mfemeat which can be offer'd, will raiie Voluntiers in » 

F«dpeBC Number toftcure oar Navigation, and aflert our 

Vol. VII. E e Sovereignty* 



( 210 ) 

Sorerei^ncy. it feemt no: proper m confine oar ConltalBwei 
to (his I'lTC of the Bill; for fince Comptilfioo u on auji 
OccslioBi apparently ncceflkry, tome Method reqolitt to' 
coiifidcr'd, m which it may be IcgaJ. 

■ What new Power ought to be placed Jn the MagiAnK^I 
what I'ime, and what ReHriflions, I am fir from albttiu 
the Prorince of lirteimining ; but thai Tome Maiuru ml 
be taken for compelling thofe who canoot be pcrfoaU. 
aod difcsvering thofe that will not offer thcmfclvct. uoHt 
sdm'n of Doubt : andai ihcMagillrate isat present «tittog| 
try Authority for tliii Furpofe, it is evident tkat his Power 
mull be extended for the fame Rcafon as it wai given la ai 
picfent Degree, the gcoeraJ Beacfic of^ihc whole Coo. 
munitjr. 

Sir John Barnard. 
S I a. 
Sir Jobn * 11 the Intent of ihii Bill be to enable one Parlofihc 

BarrUrd' Nation to enAave the other i if the rtaufibleand iavita| 

Profcfiions of encourjgjng btkI incrcaung Seamen, are M 
terminMc in \'iolrnce, Conllrainc. and Oppreffion i U li a- 
fieceflary to dwell loneer upon particular Claufet. TbC 
Intention uf the Bill ii ucieHable, and dclervci not the Ccn- 
mony of Debate, or the Formi of ccratnoo Regard. 

* 1/a Man, Sir. is liable to be forr'd from the C*n BOa 
own ptivace AHitiis, fiom hit favoorilc SclitDiei vf Lift^ 
from the EngagrmeDU of domeflic Ifcdrroeff, ik dK 
pTc(f€& of near Advantage, and fuhje^rd, without hii Cm- 
km, to the Command of one whom he haies or dre»d>, a 
pctbapi defpiict, it requires no long Atgument to fhew. tbt 
by whatever Autboriiy be is thui treated, h« it rcdoccd ta 
the Condition of a Stave, to that abjc^, to that bauful StaM; 
which every Engli/hman has been taught to avoid u tb 
i-Uzard of hii Li^, 

• It is therefore eridect, that the law which ctndi lo caefe 
tucha Power, fubvcrii our Ccmflitudoo ai fir ai ta EJitft 
extend; a Conlliuiion, which wa> originally fbn»<d \i* 
Barrier agninfl Slavery, and which one Age awr juw^cr i*i 
cadcavour'd to iltengthcn. 

* Soch a Povrer, therefore, io whatever Handi k wtf U 
lode'd, I IhxlJ always oppofe. It ii dangeroai. Sir, u> a- 
frufaAyMao with abloluie IDominton, which ii iddaa 
luowa to be impartiaJIy excrciled, and whuh oftan 
thofe cormpc aod infolcot. whom it Andi bcficrt^au 
lionrft. 

• The Bill prc^wTeioaly Cocoungcmenti aad Ec __ 
mtnt may ba given by hia Majclly, wichooc ■ new ivvt 



ii iddflB 
r^au i^H 



f 2M ) 
[n t&cfcibR draw op ao Addiers, aad ceafe eodebacr, Annou,Geo 
tb«« itnoProfpeft of AgretmeDi.' U, 17*0. 

r. WinaiagioB. 

5i 1. 

[The PijrmrBt of an antnal Sitary wilJ, In ray Opinioa, be Mr. Winn^n- 
[^a Deptt joconvemrntaod daogeroui. The fcarly ton- 
ku brco sircjdy eltimated, and arifct lo a Sum 
ikbbic in our prrlcnc Stxe. Nor ii ibe Nccefficy 
f!t> Uic I'ublic Burthen, a ^rthcn whicb u alrcadjr 
ilwrac, the only Objc^ioa to tbii Propofa). 
biag tan mote coDinbutc todi(pirii t).< Naiioa, than 
ike Coniequencet a(» War, and to make the Ca- 
cU, when the Pleiidres of Viflory and friumph 
n forgotten ; wc Quil be ioclui'd rather to bear Op- 
and Inluli. than endeavour after Rrdrefs, if we (idrtcA 
I Mtd oar PoAerity to cndlcra Ru^iions. 

ificesofibe prefcnt Pronfion tor fuperanatuTHl 
Sailors, ia no mcosGderiible Tax iipua th« Put>> 
ii not lefs barrhcn'd by it for tlie Manner of coN 
tt, by a Deduflioofrgtn the Sa>tort Wigci: fbr,wh*< 
paya tt immediately, itis the ultimate GiU of the Na- 
~ the otinoll that can Lit allowed fur thi? ParpoCe. 
' be conieiTcd.Sir, ihe Perfons eniicicd 10 the Pennon 
rntly ditiinguilhM in the Rtll ; by which, as it 
It, any oftbc wotlhlcb SuperfluiticiafaShip, cvea 
IKS of the CapUins, may, after dve Years, put in 
1, and plunder that Nation whicb they never 

:^doItfctBk,Sir, the Efficacy of this Method will bear 
tioo to the Expence of it ; for I am of Opinion, 

'of ihc Sailort will be much alfcAed by the Prorped 
iPcniioa. I am therefore fordiKling them with 
I» W be given them at their EntrBnoe, which wjll 

a tingle Payment, and probably hll our Fiecti with 

r 1 : cditKni. (ban Methods which appear nore rciia*d, 
-dt of deeper Mediutioo.' 

Cage. 

Si B. 

Nocfatfig ii mart clear than that a yearly Fcoiioir will lo^j g^ 
ItM ihc Nation without any Adv.int.ige ; and u it will 
: 0mfr" to innamerable Fraud*, it u a Method which 
! CD be rrjc^ed. 

, JO the iifw Power, Sir, whicb h propofcd to be placed 

|at.J' ■ ;:igitlratci, itutidoobrcdiy reduceierery 

i^lj. . jv-cry, tnd 11 lacoaJiUcfit wi;h that na- 

£c a Cora 



( 21? ) 

Annoi4tGco toral Rigbt to Libertv, which is conlirmeJ inJ (efimii«i 

II. 1740 ConllititticAi. The sill therefore is, in my Opiciu,^ 

^■^"Y"^^ live in all its Parts, of a Tiendency generally pern 

cannot be amended but by rcjei^ing ic* 

Mr. Pelham. ■ 

S t K, 

Mr.Fdhtm, ■ « Icannot butthink it nfcrflaiy, ibar, ob [bisQx4l 
1eafl> Gentlemen Aoald remit ehe Ardour oif Difpuui'mj 
Uy tbi Am of Rhetbrig aCd'e, that chry Ibouldl rtlErtVJ 
Vitand their Satire forQueflions of Jcfj Imparunae.' 
unite, for oDce, ifaeir End'eavouj-s, tbat ibis ABtita^] 
with no (^ftrufiiont but from its naiurdl Di^julif. 

* We are now,Sir, engaged in a V\ ar with a tsim^\ 
of the firft Rank in Power, yet by no Mcam contij 
in itfelf ; and, by its AHiunces. extrcj&ely formidibi. 
are-expofcd, by the Courf« of our Trade, and the Siin( 
our Enemies, to many ineviiable lAtSea, aa^ baveuol 
of prevcBting our Merchanis from being fclx-d, id 
DsngerorExpencetoihe Spani^ds, butb/ cuvcring^ 
witli our Squadrons. ' 

' Nor are we.Sir, to fatlsfy ourfelvcs with hvehiA, 
the DefigDs of the Sparjiards ; our Honour drmatidil 
ihould force them to Peace upon advantageous TeraJ 
we fliould not repulfe. but attack ihem ; n^sr ofilvt 
our own Trade and Potlefliont, but rndargcf tbein. 

•It is by no Means certain. Sir, that, in theProffcit 
thefe De(igDs,-«e ftal] tiotbe intctrupcfid hy thtlnj 
Jealoufy of a Nation far more powerlqj, whtife FV 
ought therefore to be able to rcfift. 1; 

• A vigoroui Exertion of oar Strength will probatd 
intimidate any other Power that may be inclined to ^ 

' 01 enable ui to repel the fnjuriea that fhill be oiTered; 

and Delay can only confirm our open Enemjes in tl 
|linacy,and animate chore that hare faitberio cooi 
Malignity to declare lagitnll: u;. 

• It is, therefore, Sir, in nodegiee priitfcRtto* 
Joconveniencies of the MeafuKS propofed, for accon 
what every Man feems cquilly 10 dtdre ; to declaiii 
the Expedients offered in the Bill as pernicious, am 
oppreffive, contributes very lirtle to |he FrodualoiL! 
Means. That our Affairs wi!t notadmil of long t 
and that the piefent Mc:hods of raifing Seamen are ( 
tjul, i> nniverfapy allowed ; it therefore evidently 
Sir, that fome other xnuJl be fpeedily Itruck ont* 

• Ithiakit neceflary topropofe.ihanbe^* ' ■ 
into ^ Comminee to-morfow Moraiogj l« 




tjO. 



< ai3 ) 

lie on this Occtfion, wtit btirg with tbrm no other Pif- Anno i4,<ie» 
icfau Znl tor tbeir Loumry.' " *740. 

Speaker then refuniej the Chair, and theChatrmaD of 

rttt< reported, chnt ihex haJ made fcnne Progrtfi} 

ErV Leave to fit spin. 

I ;d. Agreed lo the Repon of a Bill for opening ■ 
to Mtd fiom Perfu ihio' RuiTii : Ordered it to be eq- 

a third trmc. iind palTcd the Bill for the morecafy 
irery of Small Debts ; Ordered it to the Lordi. 
.CoDtmiiicr, went ihto' the Bill to intkmnifjr Piotell- 

I of Krt.itesof l'»pilb,.tc. 

4lh. To a graiu! Commince took intofiirtheT Conft. 

the Dili fur the EncouragtnicDt of Seamen, and for 

fficnlirr Manning bu Majclt>'i FJeet. when a (Jlaofe vm 

by which c I . was prupoied to be advanced lo an able 

. and ^1 toever)' other Man that fhou^d enter volun. 

lohii Majcll)''i Service, after 10 Dayiud within 60. 

unaoiagton. 
Si a. 

Thk ii a Clause ia which no Oppofiiion can be appre- Mr. Wknninc 
f, ai Uiofie Gentlemen who declared their Difippioba- 
*llkt former, were almolt ar.animous in propoling this 
aa the IttSt cxpcoGre, and the molt hke\y to 

: Time for the Reception of Votuniier; upon ihii 
1. ii. Sir, in ipy Opinion, j'ldicioudy dct^rniined. If 
tevdcd 10 a K'C:tcer length, or left unccttain. the Kc- 
lofe its kfncacy, the Sailon woald neglcfl that 
try mi|;h: accept at any time, and wouM only have 
to the Ship* of War when they coald find co other 
■tn. 

cannot conceal my Aprebenfioni, that ihii Bounty 

aJoaehc (ufficicni to man oar Fleetiwith proper Ex- 

ij and thst at A!Iuremen» may be oteftil on ore 

Force will t« found oneibry 00 the other, (hat the 

nay not on!y be intrtttd to engage in the Service by 

of a Reward, bat by (he Fear of having ij>eir Negli- 

to accept It ptintlhed. by being compell'd into the lame 

and forfeiting their Claim by tUying to be com' 

Lord BilUnere. 

Si a. 
• Toibe Reward propoTcd in diia Cltaf*. I bavt dcclaird 
! cte tanamx ConJcrcDce on this Bill, thai I have no Ot>- 

jeakw. 





Mr. Wiimjfig' 
unu 



( 214) 

Amw»t4.C^*f-j«fli&n.«nd therefore hare no AmcnJnKnt to rroptr, a 
n. 1740- ccp[ with regard to the Time limited for rbePavmeRL 

• Afc our need of Seamen, Sir, is immediate, wfa^ fimU 
not a Law for their Encouragement immedatdjr oputJct 
What AdMtiugcs can aiife from Delay* f Or «^)r hi 
that proper to be advanced now. that wiU be prepcf b 
l«ueniy Di)sf Thatall ibe lime between ibe BnaAiatail 
Operation of ibii I^wmull be lot), it evident 1 for wkowfll 
crici for two Pounds, that miygain fi»e by wilii-Mitif 
hiovfclf ftom the Service twenty Dayf longer? 

• Nor do I think the Time now limited (it(baea*i nnf 
Sailors who arc now m the .Service of the MerrloBti, iskf 
not returit foon ctwugh to Lay Claim to the Hoaiuy, mkt 
woald gladly accept of ii, ar.d who will eidternot ItoW Itl 
Crown without it, or will fervc with Difgull and CocDfiltlsdi 
ft} the LoTb of it cfttinct be imputed to their fiickMjrdA<£t, 
but to an Accident agaiml whicb tbej cojid 001 pn.vide.' 

Mr. Winnitigton. 
S r K, 

« Tbo' I think the Time now fired by the B'lf r,c,:«. 
as I b^>pe that oQr|»dent Eiigcncjr will tie but < 
tintunce, and that we (hall fooa be able to rjiCc ;. . 
e« at s cheaper Rate, yet, ai the Reafont aDedgcd fa: 
lerauoo^ihc Time may appear to odien of inofc next: 
ih-in to mc, I (hall not oppclc the Amendment,* 

Sir John Darnud. 

S 1 K. 

• With regvd to the Duration of the Time fixed kt tli 
Adranccmetitofthii Bounty, we may have Lcifare {n '■' ' ■ 
rate i but farejy il muA be readily granted by thi 
have rxpaii-itcd fo copioufly upon the prcfent t 
our Affun, that it ought immediately lo ctHnti 
ii thii be the gcner^il Ueirnnination of the Hctifc, -. 
can be 9>oie proper than toaddrefj hit Mcjelty to ,., 
rruclam.'.tioii. an Advance of £ve Pouodi, iniind 1 
which Juve been hitherto given i that, while wr ?.it\ 
irg other Mealurei lurihe Advanugeof oar C 
in which we have already coecartcdj may be . 

CUtioB.* 

Mr. Pulteoey. 
S 1 R, 

.. p^ • I "ke thii Opportunity to lay before the Hf 

GricvancB which very much rctardi the EqaipokenT 
Tkcu, ud which nioA be redrcAd before nnx Mc. 



Sir John 
BanurJ. 



( "5) 

olingthe Sailori to the public Service can be purrued Annoii Geo 
the leaft Prababili^ of Sacceri. II. 17^. 

3Uenratioa» Sir, has informed me, that to remove the 0^\^'^^ 
blioB of the KiDg*i Service, it is not neceflary to raifc 
Tag^s of the Seamea, it ii neceSkty only to fecure them ; 
■CiffTir/ to deftroy thofe hateful Inlefts that fatten in 
A ud Debanchery, upon the Gains of the Indufirioua 

lOBCft. 

Vben a Sailor, Sir, after the Fatigues and Hazards of 
{ Voyage, brings his Ticket to the Pay. Office, aod de- 
ft bii Wagei. tbe defptcable Wretch to whom he is o- 
1 aoapply, looks upon his Ticket with an Air of Im- 
■cc, acknowledges his Right, and demands a Reward 
ntnu Faynent t with which Demand, however exorbi- 
iW Ncceffities of his Family oblige him to comply. 
m tUs manner. Sir, are tbe Wives of the Sailors alfa 
d wha they come to receive the Pay of their Hof- 
i| Women, diftrefled.frieDdlefs. and unfupported; they 
lligcd to cndore every Infult, and to yield to every Op- 
DO. And to fuch a Height do thefe meroilefi Exaftors 
Acir Extortions, that lometimes a third Part of tbe 
es is deduflcd. 

rhof. Sir, do the vileft, the meaneft of Mankind, plun- 
bofe who have the highelt Claim to tbe EQeem, the 
iiade, and the ProteAion of their Country. This is 
Uid(bi|> which witb-holds the Sailors from our Navies, 
onea them to feek for kinder Treatment in other Coun- 
Tbis Hardfhip, Sir, both Jultice and Prudence call 
01 10 remedy i and while we negteft it, all our Delibe- 
UWillbeinefiettoal.* 

Ir.Soathwell. 

SlE. 

Of the Ibrdfliips mentioned by the Hononrabic Gen- jj^^ Soothmll 
IB who ijwkc lafi, I have myfelf known an Infiance, 
rfBirkaEue not to be mentioned. A Sailor in Ireland, 
Ui Voyage, met with 16 much Difficulty in obtaining 
Vagp, that he was at length reduced to tbe NecelSty of 
kliBg ra the RcduAion ot near a fixth Part. Such are 
Srieiruces with which thofe are opprefied, upon whom 
VnKr, Security, and Happinefs of tbe Nation ate ac> 
icdged to depend.* 

•KobenWiIpoIe. 

'1 is DOC witkoat Surprise that I hear the Difgull of g[r Robert 
nlori aferibed to any Inegnlarity in the Payment of Wilf)Ole. 

their 



( 2i6) 

Annoi4,Cco.thcir Wagei, which were never in any former Reign fopoaOo' 

*1 '74»- ally difch»rgcd. They rttei**. at prefent. twelve MteUt 

Ky'^/''\M>f piy in eighteen Months, wjtheut Deduction; /bthittbenim 

never more tbaa fix Montbi for which moy Dtiatni raniiw 

' dJt.Sir, the Pun^uiH^ of the Payment hii bnaductd 
ef l.tie great iDconvcnieiKJei i for there bi» been frcijDCBLf 
a Ncctfliry cf retnoving Men from one Ship R) uotbiT I 
tndit iiihclbiteclRuleofihe Pay-OfliK, loiffign errry Mtt 
to removed hi* full Pay. Thefe Men. whco the Gortrt- 
nenE is no longer indebted to them, like the (i:A Oppoitoi- 

SoHefertin^ the Service, and engagtog in BuGneli towkick 
ty hrc more inclined. 

* Thii ii not a chimerical Coinp)itnt funnded upM rM 
Indancn.and produced only tocounitribalince an flhjf ft iw i 
the faii andthe ConlVquencei are well known, fowctUdK 
near 1400 Sailori arc computed to have been loA by dta 
Pradice.' 

The Speaker. 

Si I. 

The Speaker * The Nature of the Employment with whcch I sa<» 
irolled, mikei tt my Daty to cr<dcavour that ihii Qnefici* 
may be clearly umlcrllood, and thcCoadiHonofibe Sa«ct i 
wUh Regard to ihe Keception of their Pay, jollty icf c tti *' 
cd. 

' I have not been able to difcover that any Sailoc fliai 
prodoeing hi& Ticket, ivasever obliged (o rubmit ro ihc b^ 
aoQion of any P^rt ol hii Wagei, nor Dioald any Uerk « 
Oficer under my lofpcAion, elcape for (ucb Opprrl&oa. tt 
ievcrcQ PuniChiiieDl, and mod public Ceolurc ; i wooMgi* 
him np tn the Law witboat Reiervr, and mark km nm^ 
nouiand ur.wtirthy of any Piull or Knip'oymeat. 

' But there ate Extortionert. Sir. by which thole aahl||f 
Mm, after having ferv'd iheif L«i)ntry niih Hoaefly M» 
Courage, are deprived of the ;swful Cairn of DiIigcKCol 
I^bcur. Thete are Men to whom it i* ufual amongU tte tt- 
lori 10 mortgage their Pay before i| becomei due, wbc 
sdranre their Money bat upon fbch Termi. ai cai 
. raention'd Without JiMlignatioa. 'I hefe Mea advaatr 
Sam which iiUiptilated. aod by Virtue of a Letter of 
eeyare re imbuTs'dxtthcPjy-OSce. 

■ This Corruption is, I fear, doi eonfin'd to fankitoj 
Flacci, but hai Ipread eveo to the WcO-Icdics, wkterc, ttii' 
his ovn Country, the poor Sailor ii (educed, by tiic TesfS' 
ban of present Moiiey, to fell bis Labour co EnortMaiMj 
sad Ufurcn. 



( 217 ) 

nl to the Gentleman whether the [nOance which Anno M.Geo, 
rted wai not ot this Kind. [ appeal lo hini with- ^^.^7^ 
•henfion olrtceivingaa Anfwer thai can tend to V-^iTNii^ 
what 1 bavealTened. 

Soaihwell own'dit was by a Letter of Attoroey. ] 

Sir, is indeed a Grievance pernicious and opprt-iTivei 
Endeavour;, of mine (hall be deJicient in atttmpting 
:; for by this th« Sii-or ii condemn'J, notwith- 
ii fnJudry and Succefs, to perpetual I'o verty»aad 
inly for the Benefit of bts Plunderer.* 

■nfei were then read, Empowering the Juflice-i of ^jj^'^"^'"' T^(f' 
I, kc. to iffue Warrants to. the Conllables, &c. to Seurch iprScii- 
wral privy Searches, by Day or Night, for finding men. 
caring fuch Seamen and Seafaring Men as lie hid 
I tbemretves'; and making it lawful for the OfHcers 
to make fnch Seaiches, to force open the Doors 
oufe where they Ihall fufped fuch Sejmen to be 
, if Entrance be not readily admitted ; and for fix- 
Uiy on thole who Ihall harbour or conceal any Sea • 



n Barnard. 



Detate there- 
on. 



have been hitherto deliberating apon Qucftions, in jj^ iyi^„ 
»erfi[y of Opinions might ratiTally be txpeiled, Barnarl. 
hich every M»ii might indulge his own Opinion, 
it might be,w!ti;c'jc an/ Jsn;T.rna= Coi.K-quences 
bite. But the Claufes new bef..i-i: us are of .i dilTe- 
It Claufrs which canrct be tcsA without Altonilb- 
I Indignation, nor defcnJed without betrayit.g tbe 
I the bcli, the bravclt, and moll ufeful of our t'el- 

as. 

lele Cliufes, Sir, (hould paft into a Law, a Sailor 
ive will become Terms of the (ame Signification. 
[an who has devoted himfelf to the melt ufefiil Fro- 
nd mOfl dangerous Service of his Coui.try, will fee 
lepnvcd of every Advantage wh'^h he his laboured 
, and made the mere p'fllve Property of thofe who 
Security by his Valour, und owe to his Labour thrt 
! which hardens them to Inlenlibility, and that Prido 
li them to Ingratitude. 

f mail the Sailors alone, Sir, be, .marked out from 
Mbcr Orders of Men for Ignominy and Mifery t 
oft they 'be ranked with itie Enemies of Society, 
like VigaboBdi, and purfuol like the Thief and tba 
VII. b' f . Mard«r«; 



( 2l8 ) 
Anno 14, Geo Marderer, by public C^.cers ? How or when have tbe^ fo^ 
11. 1740. tetted the common Privilege of human Nsture, or tbegenen' 
\^^/'\»J Proteftion cf the Laws of their Countiy? If it ii 1 joft 
KUxim. Sir, th.>[ he whocontributes moll to the Wcl&reof 
the Public, delerves moll to be proteAed in the Enjoyment 
of his private Right or Fortune, (a Principle which furcly 
will ncit be controverted) where ii the Mu that dam Aan) 
forth and alTcrt. that he has juiler CUims than the brivc, the 
honeft,'the diligent Sailor? 

■ I am extremely unwilling, Sir, to engage in fo invidioci 
an Undertaking, as the Coroparifon of the harmlers, inof- 
fcr.five, refolutc Siilor, with thoTe who think themfelvn en- 
titled to treat him with Contempt, to overlook hii Mcri^ 
invade his Liberty, and laugh at bis RemoBllraiicca. 

' Nor is it, Sir, neceflsry to dwell upoa the peculiar Me- 
rit of this Body ; of Men it ii fuflicirnt that they hare ik 
fame Claims, founded upon the fame Reafons with onr owbi 
that they have never forfeited them by any Crime, aid 
therefore that they cannot be taken away, without the noft 
flagrant Violation of the Laws of Nature, of Rcalbn, ad 
of our Country. 

< Let us confider the prefent Conditioo of a Sailor, kt 
us reflect a little upon the Calamities to which Cufloai, tki^ 
not Law, has already made him fubjeA, and it will toic^ 
not be thought that his Unhappinefs needs any Aniavadoh 

' He it already expcfed to be forced, upon ha Renil 
from a tediojs Voyage, into new Hardfhipe, witfaott the Ji* 
termiffion of a Day, and without the Sight of his Faai^f 
he ii liable, after a ContraA for a pleafirgind gaiDfidVaf- 
age, to be hunied away from his Profpe£ of fntereft. M 
condemned, amidll OppreJTion and Infolence, to Laboor mI 
to Danger, almoll without the Poffibility of a ReconpcMb 
He has neither the Privilege of chuflng hit CocniliaMler,MI 
of leaving him when he is defrauded and opprefled. 

• Theie, Sir. i fay, are the Calamitiei to which be isM> 
fubjeA, but there is now a PoiTibitity of efcapingthcm fk 
is not yet deprived of the Right of Refillancc, or the PoM 
cf Flight ; he may now retire to hit Friend, Md l»p» 
te^cd by htm ; he may take Shelter in hit own Cooapi, mk 
treat any Man as a Rubber, that ttiall attempt to faici kil 
Doors. 

• When any Crews are returning Home in Tim if 
War, thiy are acquainted with the lingers of an lafnlk 
but they comfort themfelret with contriving Stratag^i* 
elude i(, or with the Profped of obtaining an Exenpcioa tnA 

' it by the Favour of their Friendi : Profpe^ which ate ofn 



hyna 
I'ro 1 



^s rre<]iieaily dcJl^airil, hui whicb yet M 
»nd animate :nt if [nduftrjf. 
Sir, Ihua^d fKcome a Law, the Satlar, 
licnfetf 00 bh Return. Hiih (he I 
fltaluir, will confttJcr hi» Country si i 
Ht^iiicc tcfi to be detircd thia tny o- 
Id. He will pr&bibljr feck, ia (he Ser. 

I Prince, a kintlerTrcatmenc, and will 
try but Itu own, to Ice him:eir at le^lt 
•Men. 

I, Sir, only girc the SeHmen new Rea- 
t wilt tend likewile to aggr^ivnte (hofe 
Imdy h.'ive produced a UwteiUitan of 
■rceiy to be conqoered. 
' ihc Navy, Sir, will hirdly be made 
ireife of Fowei ) they whole Tyranny 

their Fellow Subjects from the King's 
:ould oaty depend Djxin the Ch>rac- 
odeniion fur lue Pro'pccl oi m^noiog 
ling F.sifcdiiioni, win probably, when 
y a Law }ike ihi«, ftncl made atdoluce 
I, indotgc ihemtdvej m ihc Enjoyment 
[/. cooirive new Hirdfbrpi and Opprcf- 
'ithoot Fear and wiifauut Mercy, riius, 
cmly be tyrannical io itfc'f, but the Pa- 

wiU give S;curii/ to the Ctuel, ind 
rogaot. 

U lesll any Mas bred from hti [nl^ncy 
:nce, and iccullotned to difleient Cli 
n N4tk>n>, will f:x by Choice in i 

Rhr wonl kccciMtDo, ii hardly to 
ted.thrit Mfa unqita^ificd tofupport 
tfict.or *ho haTf. tiy longCuftom, 
» for pii(ti:uljir ^Jc!hoos of Lifr, will 
ble Clicuniltancei, without endeavouf- 
^oditioot by a Change ot their Hubt- 

Kof I Sailor, acquainted ^titb nil 
tl, U of another kind. Such, Sir. 
gr, Arifing riiher from Wantoorcii or 
ird to be lecainrd by the kindpit Trrat- 

II ftcwird.. ind will therefore tnr»er 
bnl Oiipofitioiu, only to continue in a 

Pl^ Sir, very evidcn; that tbis new^ 
tg Sailor* will be lu ht fioia incrcifi 
drira them out ol the K 





( 220 ) 

A'iroit.Geo.and xt once rutn our Tnic and our Navy i at onccb(|SU 
It- '4- andiiiiaroi us. 

L/^'^'\~' * Let mjc now fuppofc, Sir, for a Moment, the Bill Wi 
pernicious in its Confequences. and confider only the Diff- 
culiic i.f executing it. £verySea-fari:ig Msn i>to be I'eized 
at P.e-ilure I y the Magillraie ; but what Defintiion is givea 
of h St.. f . ting Man ? Or by what ChaniAerillic is tlie Ma- 
giliratc !(' riil>irgiji(h him ? [ have nevi-r been ab!c to dilco* 
vcr st.y Particularities in the form of a Snman that mark 
him oat from the red of the Sprcies. 1'Lcrc U, indeed, \tb 
Servility in hts Air, and lefs Effeminacy in his Face, thia 
in tiiofe that are commonly to be fcen m Drawipg-Rooms, 
in Brbthets, and at Reviews ; but 1 know not chat a Seaman 
cii be diflinguifhed from any mher Man of equal Indullry 
or Ufc, who has never enervated himiclf by Vice, ror po. 
JifhcJ himiclf into CorruptioD. So that this Bill, Sir. if it 
flull pah m:o a l.nw, will put it at unce in the Power of the 
M^gitlnie to difpofe of V^men at hi^ ritafure, and to tern 
ivhom he plcafci a Scjinnn. . 

• Another FApedii-nt, Sir, hat been offered en this Octa- 
gon not equally tyrannical, but equally inadequate lO it* 
Kiici in View, It is propofed to rrllrain the Merchants (ron 
g.Miig Wag<s beyunij a certain Rate, on the Suppofi:ion that 
ti.' S;i:oi:- 'lavi* no Motive but that of larger Wages, to prc- 
fv- t..e Sen ■ ■ of the Merchants to that of the Crown. 

• I'hi-. bir, is a MliUke which might erfi'y arife frona 
par'i;il hi)d imperfctl Knowledge of triC AfFiir, with wbick 
vcrv few Gentkinen h.-ive Opporiunities of being well ac- 
qu.iintcd. 'J'hc W'ages, Sir, are the fmatkl) Inducemenu 
ui'ich fix the Scjmen in their Choice. The ProfpcA of 
ki'ider Treatirent, the Certainty of returning Mome in a 
fixid Time, and tl.c Power cf cliufir.g what Voyages they 
Vii: undertake, canixt but be acknowledged vrry rcafoHble 
Mo ivos of Preference. 

' On thi tL'Rtrary. Sir, when they are oncrengagtd in a 
Fh.p nf W.ir, they kn'jw neither U'hi:her they are going, 
wh.1t f^ingeri they fh^U encounter, what HardOiips ifa^ '' 
f^nil I'^ffer, ncr \i hen thty fhiil bedirmfled. i 

• litli^et. Sir, I do rot tV.ir.k it poCib'e by any Law la 
limi: the V\ agri t.^ be paid liy Merchants, fir.ce they will 
chai'gr i^.e 1 trm cf Wiges into th^t of a Frefent, or adoR 
til- S:iiIor.( tc a im^ll Share in tr.e Freight, and fo all tbc Pic- 
caut'on uccan tike will become inrffeflual. 

• In the meantime. Sir, how'uiuch Hiall weembarrafrovr 
own Lommcac, ni d iir.pair our natural Strength, the Ppwcr 
of our Fiect» p We Cull terrify our !?ailors on the one Hand, 
end couciivour to fWre them on the other ; wc fluUJ notonif 



( 2ai ) . 

9 from US by anheardof Severities, bat take away Anro 14, Ge 
xivetbitoD induce them toexpofe theuilelves to 11. 1740- 
^r f>r rdTertogibem. V-^''V"\^ 

ic confider. Sir, with what ESeQ. Methods nearly 
iwg thcfe weie praAifed in the Reign of the late 
•M. wefiiall&nd that not more than 1500 Seamen 
cd, and thofe at the Expcnce of more than 4000I. 
te E&Qs bore no Proportion 10 the Means ; oar 
re infringed, and our Conftitution violated to no 

vhtt ReafoDj Sir, can be aOigned for which it muft 
difficalt to fufiply the Fleet now with Sailors than 
^r Time ' This War, Sir, was demanded by the 
nice, in parfuance of the particular Remonflrances 
IcrchvDts. and it is not to be fuppoftrd that the Sai- 
■7 other Body of Men. engage io it with a parti- 
oflaact. 

therefore inclined to believe that theSufpicion of 
■ibcra hid in the Country, at a Diflance from the 
I raerely cbtmerical t and that if we Ihould pafs 
■c Ibould do DOthing more than grant an oppref- 
lacpafiitdtiooal Power of Search fur what in reality 
c found. 
opprcffin this Power may become in the Hands of 

or iofolent Magillraie, any Man may difcover 
mbers that the Magillrate is made judge, without 
f hit own Right to denominate any Man a Sailor, 
■• may- break open any Man's Doori at any Time, 
nnlgingany other Reafon than his own Sufpicion ; 
>.Maii can fecurehit Houfefrom being fearchcd, or, 
lib Pcrfon from being feiz'd. 
f isideed be allrdged. Sir, that this will be only a tem> 
LW. and is to ceafe with the Exigence that made it 
: Bollong Experience has inform'd us, that fevere 
eu6led more readily than they arercpeal'd; and 
Men are too fond of Power to fufier willingly the 

>n<^tt. 

ir, though thcLawfliouId not be perpetuated, every 
of u Infringmentof oarCondicution, makes Way 
iflblution ; and the very Celdtion of an oppreflive 



Anno 14, Geo 
II. 1740- 



Opt. Com- 
waU. 



Sir Robert 
Walpole 



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Captain Cornwall. 
Sir, 

* I have obferv'd. Sir, that every Man is i] 
himfetf ill treated, who is not treated according 
Opthion of his Delerts, and will endeavoor to di{ 
Notion of the Partiality and Tynnny of the Nar 
general Clainoars therefore are little to be reg^p 

' I have had, from my early Years, a Com 
Sea Service, and Ctn alli.'rt, that I never knew 
one Inlta'nce of InjulUct, and that wai punilhed wi 
rity it defcrved.' 

Sir Robert Walpole. 

Si a. 

■ It if with uncommon Satisfadion that I 
Claufe of this B>11 regularly debated, witfaoat 
Impatience, or paiTionate Exclamations. [ as 
colled from this Condufi, that the Ditpo6tioo ot 
tleman is, on this Occaiion, the lame wiih my am 
every Expedient here propo&'d will be diligentl 
and either be ferjoudy approved, or be calm'y : 

* Such Coolnefs and Impartiality, Sir, is cert 
red by the Importance of the prelent Qyellion ; 
which cannot but influence the Profperity oftht 
many Years. 

■ It is not neceflary to remind any Gentlemet 
portance of our Trade, of the Power of the, Ed 
whom we bavedeclar'd War in Defence ot it, o 
cclEty of (hewing •ihe World that our Declarat 
are not empty Nuifes, or Farces of Refentment. 
be proper. Sir, to remark, that this is not the 
nor the mofl powerful, whofe Attempts we hav 
provide againit, and who may oblige us to exei 
Power, and praflife every Expedient to increafe 

* The War has been hitherto profccuted wii 
.Vigour, with all the Attention that its Importai 

and with Succcfs not difpro portioned to our P 
nor will it ever be fuffered to languith, if the 
cefTiry for carrying it on are not denied. 

■ Nothing is more evident. Sir, than that the 1 
cr of the Njtion conJills in its Fleets, which 
the Care of the Government, fo numerous, thai 
Power of many Nations cannot equil them. I 
Fleets uofurninied with Men ? How will they i 
Dominion of the Sea, by lying una£tive in tmr I 



( 223 ) 

Methods hitherto ufed have been Tufficient to Anp.0r4.Gea 
fits, and that our Preparations have therefore Ji. j^^^. 
ore th»a anexpfnfive Shew of War, the whole \./Y"Si^ 
Bcirntly inforni'd ; it is therefore not doHbtful 
w Meafures mull be taken; whether any better 
(Ud than are offiired in thii Bill, mult be en- 
gird. Sir. to the Claufenow under oar Confide* 
a be remembred, that little more is propofed by 
I the SinAioo of Legality to a Power which bag 
ircifed by the Admiralty, without any other Au- 

that of long Prefcription, the Power 0/ ilTuing 
[mprefs upon emergent Occafioas, by which Sai- 
ed into the public Service. 
ver, in its prelent State, mull be allow'd to have 
B io any dw, and by Confcqueoce, to be unli- 
irjr. and eaUly abufed, and upon the whole, to 
only by Ni-ceflity : But that Necifliry is fo fre- 
I ii often exercilcd, and therefore ought to be 

ibe LcgiHiturc ; and by fuch Regulations, we 
efaid to remove than introducea Grievance, 
ver of fearcliing fur Sailors, however it has been 
is for from fetting tbem on a Level with Feloni, 
ir Vagabonds ; or indeed from dillinguilhing 
ir Di<a(}vantage. from the reft of the Cummu- 
h evciy Individual is obliged to fupport the Go- 
hit polTefs Eflates, or carry on Trade, transfer 

Property to the Public; and thefe ought, by 
ifon, to lerye the Public in Perfon, that have no 
rantfcr. Every Man isfecured by the Conftitu- 
.iijoyment of his Life, hii Liberty, or his For- 
erefore every Man ought reciprocally to defend 
on to which he is himfelf indebted for Safety 
in. 
irefore. Sir, unable to difcover in what corfifls 

of a Lawby which no new Duties are erjoined, 
ig requir*J, which is not already every Man's 
ry Man, indeed, who is defirousof evading the 

of any of the Duties cf Society, will corlider 
jIGonaia HardOiip, by which he ii obliged to 

the general Happineft; but his Murmurs will 
Ig but bis own Folly and Ingratitude, and will 
tne no Regard from the legiilative Power. 
I in the Bill before us. Sir, ' Encouragement fufE- 
luncien, and an Offer of greater Rewards than 
men think confiUcnt with the prefent Sute of 

the 



t 2^4 ) 
Anno 14.Cn> ite Naiiotial Revcnoei ( and what rfmiiiin ta t* ifnw %\ 

II 17^0. rtrpfl [o (hcfc who arc d«t' toill InviUit' 
jy*y'>^ all CJffcts rf Advantage? Are ihey tofi( ai ; 

rhey are idlr, or to be dillinguUh'd with iDttntgtBoe vtlj' 
/Cr wane ofdcfervrng it ? 

• TtWmi gcDcutty granted, Sir, thnt fuch DtoHi imhl 
proper (3l>jC^i Ici an Impreri. Lee us then fufpo^e ' 

" eftry Man who » willing to ftrve his Couotrr, hai }«id 
ofllic Reward prgpofcd, ird enter 'd a Vofoivtiir. 
Ftfcis arc not yet lu£ciently mann'J. tnore Sslion mi 
moduc'd. Warranci .ite illued out in the euminoa ft 
Tt.e Negligent, die (mprudent. ihe NeccflJtoiw are nl 

The V'lgilmt. the Canning, snd (hcfe t : ^ 

Money lind Shelter Jind cfcape. Can it b<- ' . 

tvliafc Circumftaocet, or good Fortune, rnabie fncn :o 
thtfmiclvei from the Officer* of the (mpre^s, defcrTe 
E^cRiption /rom the public Sen-ice, or jrom thclttrdl 
In which their Companions kre ex pled ? Hare tkty< 
charged their Debt of (Jratimdc to the Pablic (a tC' 
ally by running iway from itt Scrrice. th«t oo Sorch 

' lo be msde after them } It lecnu cviiJcnc. ihitt, irit «u 
tofcize the onc.ic i> iikcwjJc right lopurluc :he orhrr, 
it be right lu purfoe him, it ii Iikn^tle n'^l 
from efcaping the Pcrroen. It is then \ 
Perfani with the PowErortpprehcadii:^ ^ini, and m 
hthst Powcrtobelodg'J.but in the Civil Msgillnur ' 

* Every Mao, Sir, is obliged by compU'lJvc Method* C0I 
111* Country, if hcc«n be prcr>l*d upotiby^o ^t^cT. 
Man (haltrefufeto pay hii Rate* or hi&T Iti 
Goods he ftnX'X by Force, and fold before 1. _ . „^^ 2| 
partioilar Mcihbds are propofed for obliging Sen 
tribute :o the public Safety, it ii only beciufe tbe'H 
ii mote necefFiry upon more prcHtng Occifioni than 
otherst uponOccations that do not admit of Dcta)', 
ihe Hazirdof the whole Community. 

* t mod corjris, §ir, there arc ib* fly lafttDcnlai 
the Hnrdfliipi of the leafiiring Part of the Nation srcj 
liar, and truly calkmitous. A Siilor, after the 
1*01)1 of a long Voyage, when hcii now in the Si| 
PvrtJ where he hcpet \i> eijoy thai Quiei which 
Irrv'd by fo long a Scries r>f Patigun, to repair 1I 
which Vn Health h» (ufler*d,by Change l:' 
Diet of tbeShipi, ind (o recover that Stiri 
lant Vtgihince f'at worn away. When he a m 
of being reeeired by his Family with thofc Cajtffiu,' 
iheSoecoun that he brings them natorjjiy product. 
figaa ttr it& a whi^e from Danger aiid fiotn Cair, 



"Upon 



( 235 ) 

of cKefrpfeifiDg Vicw), he I'l, on tfic lW(f<n, (eit*d bj 
rrii, find fofc'd inro a Repetiiioo of all bis Miferiu, 
any lottrvHl of Rerefhment. 

aq M<n,wbu iisn tiiiak U'lthout Compiflian oa fuch 
u ilih, iMi*i\ hii Zeal for Freedom, hii Regard for 
«ry. or hit Gntirode to thok uho cootribace to the 
Iih und Power of i^cir Couoirv t letefery Man who 
v« limilelf touclicvi u/itti the Pity which tlitr fl<ghieft 
Imm), upon luch a DiiAppoincmenr, muU njiurally pro- 
fiflccrely todixvoar to obrutc the .VpwtC-y of fuch 
«l&«^e Me*riir«5, which m«y at SeaH, in part, br prcreitied, 
iag (o A1i|riilrtt<!i the Power cfhuncuig out of their 
thole whu ocgie<n the Burincb of tticir CaUingi, 
r at un^'« in Ltuntiiand Waot 
arrgirai Nmnbfrs who rttirc not from We&rineli 
. but an unieifonable Prepotteinoa ajfiinil the pub* 
i and furcly nuthing Js mors urreuroQ^ble, thxri 
DHpolitioni Ihooli) be gratified, aod chat Inclodr/ 
cspofie any Man to Feniliiet. 

the whole, Sir. t am not able to discover, that any 

M^Ked from «i^ Imprefti merely bccanfehe 

- <c, or bccuul'c Id'encftor DifiOCiiaition 

1. k^ piotnpt* htm ttraUicond. 

ilcfcri'e Indulgence, in Oppofuion to tb< Dc- 

r rubtk, U'cyare nihcr thotc who have alrta,- 

(onc Deejrec ilitcliArg'd tbcir Duty to ii. b^ conirj- 

I -■ : which it (he Con'rqueRCe ofa 

Commerce, and without which 

canr.L-: L"- 

It I* pu: wr fan'* Regret, that I am obliged to 

■ ''ufliorj which the War 
cqiKii It H^i oddenalcen j 
Hi tltci^ic tndt itic CouiiuiU ct iiic Mertrhftnt^ h^i klfori* 
iFtoof rhst lome Law of ihii Tcndenrjr jt ablohitely ncccf* 

The MerchlMS, Sir, who haw fo loudly complained 

the Decline .if Iri.Jc, the Intetruption of Navigatioa, 

Infolencc. kspjcit/and Croeky of the Spaotardij 

isli who h >cil the Natioo wi;h Keprelirntaboni of 

'■ '1 'ooragcmcott, and Mitenn. and laineet- 

ci . Manner, ih:tt tiicy were (he oaly Body 

t;j<: 1 r^ iUtare had no Rrgard, who were abia- 

m tKr Lafi« of other Naiioni, were platuJcred 

and tiegie£led at Home : the MetchAoti, at'ier 

at length by their (nponunmn cng-igeLl the Sdio 

'■r, r*t whxh ihry hare thcmiclvo cerably net tk« 

VIL O g Icut 



M 



Anno 1 4, Geo. 

/'. 174a 



( ii6 ) 

Anno 1 4, Geo loft FretCD&oni to qaeftioa cither the Jaftice or K 

II. 1740. DOW, when, by the natural Confcqucnces of a oan 

^/V*^.^ neat, Sailori become left nomerous, and Shipi nc 

cult to be equipp'd, contrad in private with foch & 

thejr ire inclinM to employ, and conceal them io 

/ hired for that Purpofe, till the Freight is ready, or 1 

ger of an Imprefs it palt, and thus fccure their owi 

ABktn at the Hazard of the Public, and hinder th 

tions of a War, which they and they ooly follicked. 

* The Danger of having other Enemies than the S 
Enemies more afiive, more powerful, and more a 
has already been mention'd ; a Danger fonear, and 
dable, that he will not be thought very folicitoa 
Country, whom the bare Mention of it does not alar 
Danger we are therefore to obviate by vigorous Pre] 
and unanimous Refolutions, nor do I doubt bat 
Enemies, if they find us united, wilt repent ofatta 

• Sir, the moll efficacious Method of manniog o 
which Law or Cuflom has yet put into oar Hands, 
fufpcading our Commerce by an Embargo, and yet I 
Nation knows how much and by what Meant it 
eludedj nofooner was it known 'that an Embargo 
than the Sailors flew away into the Country, or h 
felvrs in Corners of this great City, as from the m* 
dable* Danger ; and no fooner did the Embargo ce 
theJBanks of [he Rivers were again crowded witi 
and all the trading VefTets were immediately fupplii 

■ As I cannot doubt, Sir, that every Gentleman 
ly zealous for the Succefs of the War, and for the J 
of his Country ; and as the Infufficiency of the pn 
thods of providing for them is apparent, I hope tl 
the Regulations propofed by this Bill , to which I f< 
portant Obje£lions, or Tome other of equal Ufe, wi 
blifbed by a general Concurrence/ 

Lord Baltimore. 
Sir. 
[I LArl ' Though no Gentleman in this Hcufe can 

fl Baltimore, dently with the Succefs of the Britifh Arms, or i 

willingly concur in any Measures that may prooH 
I cannot agree to the Claufe now under our ConI 

UI difapprove it both from moral and political Motiv 
approve it as neither juft nor prudent. 

' The InjuRice of fo flagrant an Invafton'of tl 
of particular .Men has bctrn already exporcd i nor ii 
Opinion, lefs eafy to dtfcovet the Imprudence of c 
'I 



C 227 ) 

illoarSappties at once, and fweeping away all our Ssiiors, to Anim i4,Geo 
bpplfa ungle Exigency. II. 1740. 

' Itbas olKn been remarked, Sir, in Favour of a Stand- \^''Sr'\^ 
ing-Anny, that it is requi&teto have a Number of regular 
Fmii who, though too weak to oppofean Invafton, mighc 
beiUcto eftablifh Difcipline in a larger Body. An Obfer- 
niiaa which miy, with much greater Jullnefs, be applied co 
ikSeamentWhofe Art is much more difficult to be attained, 
nd who arc equally neccflary in War and Peace. 

' IF our Stock of Sejmen, Sir, be dellroy'd, if there is not 
Uiioar trading Veflclt a fuflicient Number of experienc'd 
Aflili to initiate Novices, and propagate the ProfeflioD, not 
nly our Ships of War muft lie ufelels, but our Commerce 
ilk to nothing. 

' Nor have I reafon to believe the Naval Power of France 

feiRmidable, as that we ought to be terrify'd, by the Appre- 

hafansofit, into any extraordinary Methods of I'rocedure. 

luiaforQieid that they have now very few Ships of Force 

U ii their Eiarbours ; and that they have exerted their 

VUc Strength in the American Fleet. 

' lun not, therefore, Sir, for providing aga'nft prefent 

I lltoien, without Regard to our future Security ; and think 

> lOlkug more worthy of the Confidcrntion of this Aflembly, 

^ tttt the Means of encouraging and increafing our Seamen. 

, rtichwill not be cfF.aed by the fiill before us. 

' Land Forces may be hired upon Emergencies ; bat Sai- 
' Inareour own peculiar Strength, and the Growth of our own 
hill we are therefore above -ill other Regards to attend, if I 
Hf ife the Term, to the Prelervation of the Species/ 

Ur.Viner. 

Si a. 
' A> there can be no llronger ObjcAion to any Law than Mr- Viner. 
^bibiguiiy, or indeterminate Latitude of Meaning, I think 
Iteceflkry to propofe, that (ome Word of known and li- 
Shed Import, be fublUtuted in the Place of Sea-faring Men ; 
Ii EaprclTion which, if I was allced the Meaning of it, I 
Ank) find it difficult to explain. 

■^ ' AreSea-firing-Menthofeonly who navigate in theSea p 
-The Term is then fuperSuous, for all fuch are evidently coin- 
|ratd in the Word Sesmen. Are they Birgemen or Water- 
Ma who ply on Rivers, and tranfport Provilion or Commo- 
fitili from on* Inland Town to snother } In that Senfe no 
mAf will affirm that it is a proper Woiti ; and Improprieties 
i the Expreffioa of Laws produce* Uncertainty in the 
CsKOiion of ihcm/ 

G £ 2 Ciptaia 



C a«» > 

■*«°i74i?** Ckptkla Cornwall. 

e»pt. Com- ' TheTpFfn Sea^faring Men, of whirh tn EitplioilJ 
WfU. ^fired, is intentjfd lo ificlude aK thofe uha tire by cidl| 
isg Good«orPan«Dgersupon the Water, wh^thertbtSBi 
Inlind Rivers: Nor can we rertraJn it to a mito*SbI 
vitboutexcmpiing from the public Service great finatt 
wbofe iraiiner uf Life has qu^ilified them ior it, isjii 
whom tlirir Country may with equaf Jmlite fxpeSAfill 
as from ihofrwhaare engaged ififoreicQ Trajffic' 

Mr. Viner. 

Si.. 

_. . • I atii fsr ffomcaticurring with th* HoOounb'e Call 

*ir. ylnff. ^^^ ini,J5 Opiriion, thlt the Inland VVaiefirurn arc, Im* 

Profeffion.in any degree qualified for Sea..SerVK:e, Or oif 

perly be called Sea- jaring' Men. 

• AU|Q|ja]i6caftonE for theServicr muft corfift ehk 
fpne fiiowfeijge of the Aru of Navi^tion. orirrfow' 
miltarity with the D3n^er« of ihe Sea. W«h rtgirt 
at))' previous Knowledge of naval Bufinefs^ it is well ka 
that they have no Advantage over any rotnrriDn lAtxV 
for the cnnnner o^ Tiaviga:ing a 6hip and a Barvc Un 
the moil part nottaJitg in common. 

• 'Nor are thefe Watf rmen. Sir, more abfe lo Rtvi fc* 
the Terrors of the Scorm, or the NoiiV of a Biitic. I 
thofe who fkiiloiv any other Occupatiofi. Many of ihrntfl 
faw the SeSj nor ha<te jefs Dread of it$ D^neer Llu> 
oth« Inhsbirams ef the Inland Countries. They are* 
fore neither Se^-lanng-Mfo, uorpCcuEiari;^ capable cf 1l 
made Seamen. 

•_ Butthe Hardftipnpon particular Mea isnottheftifl 
Objedion to this Claufc, which, by obElru^ing oar fii 
Navigation, may make our Rivers ufelefs, and fet the k 
Trade of the Natron at a flknd. For whowi[l brire -ii 
Son a Waterjnan, who knows him expofed by that Fr 
pon to be imprclTcd for a Seaman ? 

• It Items therefore neccflary. Sir, either to OSUE 
Term Sea [aring-Men, or to cxpfajn it in fuch a taano^ 
{niand Wa:eimen may oqc be included,' 

iMrd Gage. 

Sir, 

• So much has been urged againfl t^* 
S*^ thodt propped in chii ClaL[c. aud lb lii 

ycvr of tbcm, that it ma/ feem fa^T^voi, 




( 229 ) 
^ 10 njeavoiir. by a multiplicity of Arguments, to prove Anno 14, Geo. 
vhit common Reafon mult immediatdy difcover. But I'- ^7^°- 
theteii ooe Conrequence of this CUufe which haa not yet Vm/'VN^ 
heeoobferved, and which is yet too important not to be ob* 
vitedby a particular Provifo. 

' II ii well known, Sir, that many of tbfife to whom this 
Ad will extend, are Freeholders and Voters for eleding the 
Kgnlnitatives of the Nation ; and it is therefore apparent, 
tiuEleAions may be influenced by an ilUltmed or partial 
EntutioB of it. How ealy will it be when an Election ap- 
pnulws to rsife a falle Alarm, to propofe fome fecrec Ex- 
pedniai, or threaten us with an Invafian from feme unknown 
QwBt^.and to feize on all the Sea-faring Voters whofe Af- 
fcdioai are fufpe£led, and confine them at Spithcad till the 
CoateS is over. 

' I cinnoi therefore, Sir, but think it necelRry, that ii 
iVnCbule be fuflered to pafs, lome P^rt of its hatefut Con- 
^aencci fliould be prevented by an Exception in favour of 
fmlkiMcn and Voters, which furely is no lefs thai) what 
■HryMia owes to his own Security, to the Welfjreof hU 
Cnmiy, and 10 thofe by whom he Aas been honoured with 
Ae C^ of their tiberties.* 

Mr. Pelham. 

SlE. 

' Ido not rife ia Oppofition to tbe Propofal made by that jy^, peihim. 
ll>|kl Honourable Member, nor do I think this the proper 
Ttte cither foroppofing or approving it. Method is of the 
lii{brl Importance in Enquiries like thefe; and if the Or- 
iftilht [X'batebe inrerrupted by foreign Queflions or inci- 
'wilObjeAions, no Man will beabletoconfider the Cfnufes 
klbre as with the A:tention neccfTary to his own Sici.'ifac- 
tM, or to the ConviAion of others ; the Mind will be difli- 

Cttd by a Multiplicity of View&, and nothing can follow 
thrp'cxiiy and Confufion. 
, ' The great End. Sir, for which we are now afTembled, K 
ftilrike out Methods of manaingthe Fleet with Expedition 
■■I Certainty. It is therefore proper in the ftrft Place to 
*|Ke opoo fome general Meafures, to each of which there 
>iy BDdoubtedly be particular Obje£lions raifed, that may 
k ifierwardi removed by Exceptions or Provisions ; but 
iWe Pioviftons fliojld, for the fake of Order, be ioferted in 
fvtknlar Claufei.tobefeparately confidered. 

■ Of this kind is the Exception now ofiered, to which I 
km DO Objeflion but its prefent Impropriety, and the In- 
Unpdvk of the Pcbatc which it may now occafion ; for I 

fee 



f 23* ) 

Anno u, Ceo. fee at prcfent no Reafon againfl admitting it ii i 

V>irX^ • Whtn it ii confidered how mncb theSocBfitfll 
War may deptnd upon the Succelc of our pidcit 
takings, I hope my Sollicitode for Regnhrigr aj^l 
tion wiU be eafily excufed.* 

Sir John Hind Cotton. 

S I R, 

Sir John * I am not able to direover mny immtDtnt Dnp 

Uiiui Cotton, the Nation in Aifpending our Attentioo to the CUnfeU 

us for a few Moments ; nor indeed do we ceafe toaori 

it, while we are endeavouring t6 mollify it, ind adii|ti 

our Conftitution. 

* The Exception propofed it, in the Opinion of del 
Dourable Gentleman, fo rrafonable, that lie dedamU 
ready to approve it in another Place; and to ne,*! 
fecms more proper of its making Part of this Bill tkal 
As a Connexion between the CUufe and ExccptioiOT 
necellary and immediati;, t cannot fee why it flKMUn 
poned, unlefs it is hoped that itmiy be An^ottea.* j 

Mr. Pultcncy, 

Sir, 

Mr Pulteney. ' "^^^ '^'* Exception ftioald be fbrgotteo tkniil 
' Danger ; fjr how long foever it be delayed, J will ■■ 
gree to tlie A^ till I fee itinrened. If we fufir tklll 
of the Freeholders to be infringed, what can «c cntf 
to be charged with betraying our TruA, and pnigV 
Servitude and Opprellion thole who deputed ut to tkilJf 
bly, as the Guardians of their Privitc^s, and tbc 
of their Birthright ; a Charge too juflly to be 
tcoiittrocious to be borne! 

' Sir, the Right of a Freeholder is inrtrnrmlint 
other Circumlliir.ce, an^.'! is neither made mon or 
Wealth or Povtriy : I'Ke Ellate, however fmaU, wbtf 
a Right cf voti'-.g, oiigl.t to exempt the Owner fnm* 
ReRraint that ir..iy hinrjcr tlie Exertion of hit 
Right on which our Coiiliimtion is founded, and 
not t e uken away without iubverting our wi^ote 
ment, 

• To overlook the Diflinflions which the (iindami^ 
of our Country hr.ve made in r<.'fpeA co dilKfcm OH 
Men, and to regard only the Accidents of AAiMBoaa 
ceflity, is furely urjuLt in itielf, and'anworthy of thibl 
bly; an AfTembly, Sir, inllitiited principally to proM 
Weak .igainft the Stro;;^, and deputed to repreicai di 



(«5i ) 

re State, who are cot connderable enough to appear Anno 14, Gee. 
id claim a Voice 10 the Legiflature, H- inp- 

ntpofe an honell, a laborious, and an iifeful Man, 1/'\^'^J 
ml by the Hands of an iofolent Officer, and drag- 
the Enjoyment of his Right, only becaufe he will 
«his Confcience, and add his Voice to thofe ofSy- 
, Dependants and Proftitutes, the Slaves of Powe, 
Iges of a Court, and the Hirelings of a Fafiion, I'a 
elt degree of InjuUice and Cruelty. Let us rather, 
;p away with an Imrrcfs, the Drones of large For- 
te Tyrants of Villages, and the OppreAars of the 
t ui oblige thofe tu lerve their Country by Force, 
trtuncs have had no other EfFcd than to make them 
and worth'efs ; but let fuch who by contributing to 
ce, m^ikc every Dav Tome Addition to the public 
be left in the full Enjuyment of the Rights which 
rve ; Let tliote by wholu Labour the Expences of the 
farnilh*d, be excufcd fioni contributing to it by per- 
rvice. 

; is necciTiry, Sir, to have our Laws e(labli(h'd by 
Tfentnt JVC'S of the People, it' is necefTary that thofe 
itattves lh9u!d be freely ele^cd ; and therefore 
iw th.".! fjbdrufts the Liberty of Voters, is contrary to 
imencul Liws of our Conflitution ; and whac Mu!- 
layby this Law be either hindred from giving their 
r be terrified into fuch a Choice as by no means cor- 
with their Judgnicnci or Inclination's, it is eafy to 

n indeed cf Opinion, Sir, that this Clnu'ecinnot be 
to our CoiiJtitution, nor mociif.cd by cny F.vpedient 
aw, which wtll not by infupporcuble Hardfhips upon 
an, and make Way for abfolutc Power But, as it is 
' that a conliant Supply of Seamen fhuuld be provided, 
ic not improper to obl'crvc, that there \i one Expe- 
L remaininc;. by which, clioMt will not much afflll ui 
refcnt Exigence, the Tlects of ;hii Nation may here- 
conltantiy iupported. 

have at pref^'nt great Numbers of Chanty-Schoola 
d in this Nation, where the Children of the Poor 
m Education difproportion'd to their Birth. This 
iDo other Confcquences than to make them unfit for 
Ltions by pliciog them, in their own Opinion, above 
Igery cf d.iiijr Libour. a Notion which is too ntuch 
i as Idfenefi co-operating with Vanity, can hardly 
■in the Afcendant, and which fometimet prompts 
(uppon themfiflvcs by Pra£licci not only ufelefs but 

pernicioat 



( 23* ) 

Anno 14, Geo. pernicious to Society. This Evil, Siri cannot be hetttn 

II 1740- atcd than by allattiag a rcafonable Proportion out ol 

K^t'\^ School to the Service of the Sea, in which by emerin| 

they cannot fail to become Proficients, and where the 

taioments, which at prcfenttoo frequently produce L 

and DiQionefty, might enable ttacni toexcel. and entict 

CO Promotion.* 

Mr. Winniogton. 

S,», 

Mr. Winning* < NoiwirhfUnding the Confidence with which fob' 
ton. tiemen have propofm this Ammendmentt and the ] 

with which others have confented to it, I declare t 
Hefiution, that I oppofe it now, and intend to op 
whenever it flull be offered, becaufe it will defeat 
other Provilioot which ihall be made in the Bill. 

* 1 will venture to fay. Sir, that if every Man wl 
by whatever Tenure, the Right of voting Qiall be ex> 
from the Neceffity of contributing to the public Sa 
his perfonal Service, every Mao qualified for the S> 
by fome Means acquire a Vote. 

' Sir, a very fmall Part of thofewho give their ^ 
this Nation, enjoy that Right as the Appendage of 1 
koId_; to live in fome Towns, and to be twrn only ta 
gives the ooalienable Privilege of voting. Any Get 
to fecurehisown Interefi^orobllrud the public Scrvio 
by dividing a fmall Piece of barren Ground among 1 
dred Sailors, exalt them mil to Freeholden, and ezemj 
horn the Influence of this Law. 

* However. Sir, I am not left a Friend to the Freel 
than tbofc who propofe the Exception in their Fiv( 
in my Opinion the great Interelt of the Freeholden 
Frefervation of their Freeholds, which can only be 
bya vigorous Exertion of the Power of the Nation 
War which is now declared a^inlt the Spaoianti.* 

Lord Barrington. 

St., 

Lord Barring. * ^Y the Obfemtions which T have Opportunirie 
ton. king at the Place which I have the Honour torepn 

am convinced of the Influence that this Law will ha> 
all the Boroughs along the Coalts. There mofl of 
lers are, in one Senfe or other, Sea-faring Men, being 
all of them Owners of Vcflels, and in fome Degree sa 
with Navigation t they may therefore be horned awa 
Choice of an officious or opprefiive Magidnte, Vho 1 
Partiality and InjuQice, obtain a Majority, contnry n 



( ^33 ) 

Bcnl ladinition of the Pco^c, and determine the Ejefiion Anno 14, Ceg- 
hjUt own Authorii/, ^'- ■'7-t^- 

Sir William Yoogc. • V^ v"S*i 

' Ifcrcry Freeholder and Voter is to be exempted from Sir WillUm 
Ae InSuence ol'tlie La--v, tlie fJilI thai we aic, with fo much V<^nSC- 
Aidor, endeavouring toJrj^upand rectify, and of UrhJch 
tivNeceHuy is 10 generally acl:iiuw!<fdged, will be no other 
dan an empty Souiid, «n.l ii DdicTmindtion withuac an Ob- 
^t tor while we are empowering the Gnvernnicnt co call 
SancB into the Service, we are exempting alinuit iiM that 
utMeto fcrve fium the Ucnominaiioii ot Sizaitn : Whut 
if tkH bar to ditiiute wiiboac a Subjcd I to railc With one 
ibad ud demolilh with the other ? 

■ tatbe Wdtern Parti of the Nation, Sir, where I refide, 
■Mj who vote 31 EleAioni chilli iherr Pnvilrge by no other 
Tilcihaii rhat ol boiling a Poi; a Title which he who has it 
Ml, Bay eafily obt:)in. when it will either graiify his Lazi* 
Mborhii CuwArdice, and which, liio' not occafionaliy ob- 
mkmi, fecms not tufhcient to let any Man out ot the Reach of 
mjat ind neceHiry Law. 

' Itii therefore. Sir, undoubtedly re^uillte that the Terms 

4f the E»eption Ihuuld be explicite and dcrmittve, and that 

.fl^thofc fliiiuld heexempted who have fuch Pollefliuns or 

l^diicitiont ai this AITeoibly Ihall think a jjli Title to Ex- 

^ifbOt. For on the Wellern Coalt, from whence great 

dpplia may be expected, nliiiott every bailor has a Vote, 

•IVkich nothing i* there reijuireJ, but to iurea Lodging antl 

WaPoi; after whicli, ifrhi-. Exception be admitted in all 

illdlitude, he may lit at Eile aniid.t the Dillrefles of his 

Autry, ridicule the Liw wli.ch he i.as ciu^cd, aud let the 

■l^iitnie at open Di.ii^iiLe,* 

Sir Robe rcWal pole. 
1^ S I «. 

• Ai I think. Sir. Tone F.xcer.:i'nn mav l-e 'y.^ snd prrppr, ^jr R"beit 
ll fiippotc every OentLintan ui!: c(>rc':ruith me in rncft- •^^'i-*'* 
of fuel) Extent Ki iitill kT.'c no Objiii lor tiic Opera- 
of the Law. 

Ft is in my Opinion ^.TCf^T to Tf^rr-in tIt? Kxcmption to 
Frechc'dcrs wro arc j olitli of h;;.ii -in ii!l:i'c, a-J give* 
[Vote for the Rcpreftntativeof the diunty, by which tnofe 
Priviltge aritei from their l*rcp'*rry. iv,:i tie (ccurcd, 
iC frems rcaConable th.it thrtfe who i> tvf. I'rivilfpe!! with- 
Aorenv. flioutd pmchate them by tixir Service^.' 

BS, VII. II h Mf. 




Anno 1 4, Geo. 
Mr. Brown. 



Mr. Ryder. 



( 234 ) 

Mr. Brown. 

Sir, 

* The Exception pr^poiedwiU not only defeat tlieEi 
the Bill by leaving it few ObjeAs, but will obdrna the Ei 
tion of it on proper Occafions, ud iovolve the Magiftr 
Difficulties which will either intimidate bim in the £u 
of his Authority, or if be perfilh in difcharging his 
with Firmnefa and Spirit, will perhaps oblige him fomc 
to repent of his Fidelity. 

< It is the neceflary ConfcqiKoce, Sir, of a Sesman*) 
ftffion, that he is often at a great Diilance from the Ph 
hii legal Settlement, or patrimonial PolIcffioDS ; and hi 
therefore aflcrt Af hii own Circamftances what it m<A < 
nient u-ithout Danger of Detedion. Dillance it a So 
that prompts many Men to Falihood by which only Vn 
gratified, and few Men will tell Truth in OppofitioB to 
Intereft, when they may lie without Appreben£oa of 
conviAcd. 

< When therefore a Magiflrate receives DIreQioo) t 
preft all the Seamen within his Dillrid. how few will h 
who will not declare themfetves Freeholders is fomed 
Country, or Freemen of forae oblcure Borough. It ii 
Purpofe. Sir, that the Magitlraie difbclieves what we c 
confute 1 and if In one inltance in a Hundred, he iboi 
tniftaken, and, a6ling in Confequeoce of his £rrar» fy 
Freeman into the Service, what Reparation may aoti 
manded ? 

' I therefore propofe it to the G)n{ideration of the < 
mittee,| whether any Men ought to claim F^emptioi 
this Law by a Title, that may fo readily be proCur'd, 
fefely ufurped." 

Mr. Attorney General Ryder. 

S t R. 

< The Pr.i^ice of imprcQing, which has been decli 
againll with luch vehement Kxaggeiations, is not only h 
ed on immemorial Cullom, which makes it Part of tiie 
mon L:iw, but is likewife cHablifhM by our Statutes; 
reineni'x:- :o havtr found it in the Statutes of Queen ] 
aD>! thr-.cltjic cannot allow that it cujjiu to be treated l 
gal, ;ird aiKi-conlittution.-iI. 

* That it is not inconfillcnt with our Confiitution. ■ 
proved from the Pr.:£tice ol crefling the Royal Stai 
upon grL'at Emerge ncie:^, to which every Man was ol 
immediately to repair : 'i'his Pri£tice is as old u (hit Ca 



( ^S5 ) 
a, tad, u it may be revived at PJeafure, nay be properly Anno 14, Geo. 
cuioiied aa cquivakat to an Imprcl's.' il.1740- 

Ur. Viner. V.^On«^ 

Sia. 

■ Thii Word, which the learned Member has, by his n,. vki r. 
Mdcrfiil Diligence, difcover'd in the Statute5, may perhaps 
there, but in a SigoHication far diflerenc trom that which 
beirs at prdeot. The word is, without Doubt, originally 
each. Pa//, and imply'd what is now exprcfled by the Term 
!ady ; aad to imprefs any Man was in thofe Days only 
make him ready, or engage him to hold himfelf in Kea- 
atb, which was brought about not by CompulhoD, Purluit, 
d Viokoce. but by the Allurements of a pecuniiry Re- 
ud, or bf the Obtig-ition of fome antient'i enure.* 

ThU Debate ended in a Report, That they had made Tome 
nptb, and dclired leave to lit again. 

The (th. Read a firll time, a Gill for continuing an A& 
ihof King George II. to explain a former At\ 1 ith of 
JH George I. for the better regulating the ManufaAure 
Fuoch in the Weft Riding of Yurkftiire, and for making 
hefiud AAs morecfr<.-£luaI. 

Itaoeived a Petition of divers Merchants, Exporters of Petition rtlaf 
liVrooUen and Briiifh Manufaoriei and Filhcriesi as ingtoSci- 
hvifc Ownris and M.iflcrs of Ships concerned in the '"'-'"'" ^"^^ 
Nnjfuioa of thcfe Ships to foreign Parts; alfo thofe 
MObTDed in the Cual and Coalting- Trade, in behalf of 
AarfdTM and others, complaining of the unreafonable 
to|ndemanded, and paid to Marinen in the Mcichant'a 
k*ice of late, which if more than double of what is 
pul by any foreign Nation in Europe, (bcfidcs Crimpage, 
1 a Month's Pay advanced to Cich Mariner) 10 t<ic Dif- 
■geneat of the Trade of thei'e Kingdoms : And repre- 
ng CO the Houfe, thnt this growing Evi!, if not pre- 
by a Law. will hinder the Manncrf irom ever en- 
themfclves on board the Ships o( Wiir, while the 
sponion of Wages paid to Mariners in the King's 
:, and that of [he Merchant is lo grent; the Wages 
iMariners in the King's Service being about 23!!. and 
other Adrantages about 2Si. per Muntii, wiien the 
in the Merchant's Service are paid, and demand 
,and 3I. per Month: And further reprcfenting, that as 
[Pecitioners apprehend the prefcnt Pr.-<£li(.'ec:irried on in 
"^ng Mariners from on bosrd the tlomcWdn'-boURd 
bantShips, and Irom the Shore, does not anl'wer the 
propofcd ; and that a great many Perfjos make it their 
II h 2 fiuTiuefa 



( 23« ) 

Anno li, Geo Bufineft tofedace and encournge Mariners to l 

II. 1740- the Intent of an Aft ift of King George II. 

VX»*N^ Jiegula/ign ef Mariners in the Merchant's StrK 

thcr,' complaining of vexatious Suits carried 

Maflers and Owners of Ships, by the Advice 

nen in the High Court of Adnitralty : And 

forth, that the Aft uf Navigation obliges t 

carry three Fourths Englifli Mariners, whict 

in force when the prefent War is over; but 

often in foreign Ports enter, or are entered on 

jelly's Ships, it Is impoflible to comply with th 

the Merchant-Ships are liable to becotnr a i 

the veiy Man of War who has tnl<en their M 

And therefore pr.iying the Houfc 10 pcTin 

heard by themfelvet or Counlel upon the faic 

to grant thnt fuch Provifion may br made in i 

lating the Price of Mariner's Wages in t 

Service, and to prrvent fuch growing Abuli 

thofe under the Sanftion of the High Court oi 

order efirftual'y to man his Majelly's ShipM 

jmprelllng, pnd to encourage the 'I'mdc ant 

thel'e Kingdoms a> to the Houfe Ihall fecm 

to lie on the Table. 

VoresrrVine }" a grand Committee, took into Confide 

to the Evpor< rtl Petitions concerning the Dec^y of the * 

lation ot' faflory, Jfitc. and reported the Refolutions ■ 

Woc-l. feme, viz. Rrfolved, That the F.xportarion 

Grent-Gritain and Ireland to I'oicign Parts, 

drcia] tr> the Wcollcn-Mannf^fturcs of thi» J 

Refolved, That the I^ns row in bring a 

to prevent the Fxportaiion of Wool (rom G 

Jrcland to foreign Parts. 

ReioVed. That a public Regsif r of Wrt- 1 ; 
Britain ard Jreland, is the miTit tfttctiial h 
venting the Fxportarion tiiryeof to foreign 
was agreed to bv the Hcuff-: After whrct 
ioivco toadurels his Majeiiy. That he woi 
direct the CcmniilTioners for 'i'r?.cie and Plai 
the Rccef> of Parliament, to prepare a Scht 
giiienrg the Wool of Great Brj^.^in and Ir 
bof-re Ihi? Houfe the nt.xt Seli-.on of Pirlian 
Ordered, That a Bill b*- bn itght in for tl 
of ti-.e Manufjfture of Wuolirn iJroad CIo 
ycnt lobules in the ni:>king of the lame. 
Farther Pro- The 6th. In a grand Cominit;ee, made a 

thr's^amtn^a *^ '*"* **'" '"'' *" Encourajr^meiit of Seai 
kUl. * better and fpecdicr msoning ni^ MajeityS f 



( 237 ) 

• ^tl. Tn s gnnd Committee, oo the Bill for the En- Anno 14, Gen 
ewTkcntot Seamen, a Claufe was read, by which every 'iJ'*" 
.bio. headboTOUgh.Tything-man, or other Pcrl'on. was '*-^'r"N-./ 
Co b«: examined, upon Oath by the Jultices of the 
wkio were empowered to lay a Fine upon 1 hem for any 
£%. Offence, or Connivance; after which Sir John Bar- 
Tpoke 10 the following £fit:£l : 

5 ..«, 

l» is the peculiar Happinefs of the Britifli Nation, that Sir John 
1.*^ can be made without the Confent of their Reprc- B*""*"*- 
ci^vca ; and 1 hope no fuch Infatuation can ever hM upOD 
;tf * as may influence them to chufe a Rcprefeniative ca- 
lk^ of concurring in AbHirditiei like thi^. 

* Th« Folly, the Iniquity, the Stupidity of this Claufe, 
9> Only be conceived by hearing it repeated ; it is too Aa- 
fi*k to be extenuated, and too grofs to admit Exaggera- 
Ol>^i to oblige a Man to make Oath againA himfelt. to 

W'ft hinfelf by his own Voice to Penalties and Hard- 

Cvfi,bu once croel and ridiculousj a wild Complication of 

T>nuy and Folly. 
' To call upon any Man to accufe himfelf, it only to call 

■PM kin 10 commit Perjury, and has therefore been alwaya 
[ Mnated irrational and wicked ; in thoTe Countries where 
~-^> pnfiifed, the Confeflion is extorted by the Rack, which 

■l>d if fo neccflary on fuch Occafions, that 1 Ihould not 

*Mdir to hear the Promoters of this Claufe openly declar- 

^fbrthe Expediency.of Tortures. 
* Nothing is more evident than that this Bill, however 
F| Aillportance of theOccafion may bemagnificd.wai drawn 
^■^•itbout RefleAion, and that the Cliiulea Weie never un- 
-^bfcod fay thoie that oflered them ; Errors like thefe muft 
'^fifeoaly from Precipiution and NegIrA, for thry are too 
ptb 10 be committed either by Ignorance or Defign. 

■ Toexpofe fuch Abfurdities is indeed eafy, but not plea- 
W; for what End is anfwercd by pointing at Folly, ur 
W 11 the public Service advanced by {hewing that the Mc- 
tindi propofed are totally to be reje^ed i Where a Propofi- 
ii^^^of a mixed kind, and only erroneous in Part, it is an 
fiAl wid no difagreeable Tafk to feparate Truth from Error, 
i^A6n tangle from ill Confequences. luch Meafnres as may 
p voHiied with Advantage to the Public; but mere Siupi- 
hvcui only produce CompaOion, aad ailbrd no Opportuni- 
mtof Eaquity or Difpate,* 

Sir 



11.1740 
Adninl 



i/Lt. Citbon. 



SirChftrlcf Wspr. 

S)». . - . 

< Thii ClM.it(e luwevtr con tern piuouily trtiUcJ,a 
already paJTed toto t Law by a Parltamcvu which braj 

courceij and dreaded by the £r>ca.ieJl Put cf thcQ 
and was drawn up by a Minillr/ thatllKvc giroilid 
lerityno ReaCon to treat them with Dcri^Ofl aidGiB 
t Intbe ReigQ cf Queen Aaoe. chii McctkadaH^ 
WAS approved and edabjifhed, and wc otjiy judge dfi 
pricty of the Meaiuies followed In chat Wu, b]r^^■ 
wbich cliey procured . ^ 

• Ihofe tbcrrfure bywhoin Cdit BiU wai diiau 
cammittul tto new Attfurditici. tuit have propofrd n 
Wbicb wBi ngt ea«£lcii by the vifcQ oJ our Pfcdi^ 
ouof tlivmoaiUi|ftriottt?tno(Up|'otuHiilor)r.' 1 

Mr^ Gibbon, * -J 

• I am far from thinking a Fropontion fufficicnq 
dcd by 2Q Altfir[iun iIlic it wu admiiEcd. by not Pid 
Iqi^ Cho' 1 Jjitve BO fnclinaCton to vilify tbcir Mcjiioil 
((ijthuu.t Scruple, a^m that they had no PretcjiiioBi! 
libility, and tiyu there are in many of our ScatJt 
•fAlch Jgrorance, CrtdnUiy. Weakne^^ and 
notbect>niider'd without AilonilhincBr. 

' In Qu«!lLons of an abl^rulc and complicated Kj 
certain, i^ir, lh;ic Experience I114 taught us what 
have been difcovcred, previoufly, by the \Vjfdi-,ra 
ccliois i And vi-i have found by theif ConfetjueiK 
proprifiy q1 mr.ny Fra^ices which they approved, j 
we fhoi^^d hove (qi.'ally applauded in the fame Cii 

• £ut to ivtLui'urpol'eii Obfcivation, if we mi 
Eyes Bg;iir.li it, and ap^tii for tvtt ta che Wifd 
Ancci^DTif if we muft fLU imo Errcr, ]iL«rct)> 
were miiLkfn, and rufli upon KoLki outoSVn 

ihtjic who were wreck'd againA ibcm ? 

• in QueitLors cafily to be exaroiii'd, and DeU 
which comprized no perplexing Contrarieties of J 
Mulciplicicy olCircumdances, cltey Were equaU^J 
Qurfclves 10 be fupinc and negiigcRt, to fink Ml 
or be furpi-iard by Haflt. 1 hat the Claufe now 
was ena^ed by tlicm^ mull be alcribcd mereiy to tl 
the Seilitm in which it wa^ brought berore tbem-i 
in wJiichfo ma.ny Enqulriei of the highell Impot 
lo be made^and (q great aDiverficy of Viewa (o| 



C 239 ) 

*« Tio Wonder that fomc Abfurdities fliDuld efcape Anno 14, Geo 
t XDctrAion. 11. 17^0 

t,he Fourth of the Reign ofthsQBCCn, this Bill was V^''V"\^ 
^5' * n, as now, at the latter End o( a StlTinn, when tht 
'^'i** of [he HouJc was fatigued and diltr?:fled, and it 
'Vrried through both HouJts, and ratified by her Ma- 
*Uh very little CoLfiderution. 

■"t then, as tliis t:ircum!tfince may be jiiftly termed an 
"^tttion of iheir Erior. it ought 10 be a Lcfibn of Cau- 
* ^ui, that we may no: bc^ in the like manner, betrayed 
MAefame Weakntu.' 

Mr. Pelham. 

■ Tie ConduS of our Predeccffars feems not to fland ia j^^ Pelhanu 
■•^ofiny Excuie : for it might be eafy to vindicate it by 
^■funeats, but chat it is more proper to approve it by Imi- 
Kn. 

' Whenever the 6iU was pa/Ted, or how hnfiily foever the 
**■« enatied, i: was, I bcjieve, rather the Kfu-tS of Ne- 
cStf than of In.idv(;rtcncy ; of the fame NcccfTity which 
nrpteilCT, and which ii very ill conlulteu by tedious De- 
lia. 

_' They were then involved in a VVar, and were not fo 
Bnflcd by private Ir.tfreib as net to uni;e in the moft vi- 
("niBiOppolition of their i'nrmie!'. They knew that the 
■idiic Good ii of[-n promct^ii by the temporary Inconve- 
Mciesor Inuiviuuilsi Rn:\ when Aft^tir^of th; highell Iir- 
"■lUce demanded their A;iei;tion, whcnt'-.c Srciniy of the 
■WrNationand the li-ippinef;. cf their F'j,l/rity were the 
ilfcA of their £n(] lirifs, iney wi:-j!y fuifiTed ill's Confide* 
■iOM to csfj withuut fj'iCfri'ious and u^fcai'■Jnabte So!li- 
itde. 

' How juilly they rwfon'J, Plr, and what \'igour their 
l^felnrions givetothe ipii'nry *,>;"?raticins, our Vjdririta are 
faScieot Prooi : And if Exptritnce be the lureil Guide, it 
>uot be itoproper to irni^te thole who, in the iimc Cir- 
■bnccs with curfc!ve5,f;und Means tornifc the Honour, 
■dJBprcvc the Commerce oi'thrir Country. 
'TiucourCircumtbnctsiireche i;:mc*.vith thofc nf theP^r- 
laniby which this Law wa<i niacin, i: obvious beyond Dif- 
>e;or where they vary, the DiitLfjice is pcriups toourOif- 
fUtage. 'A'e have. Sir, the f^mc rx-Lmie!", cr, at leili, have 
■ton to apprehend the fame; but hrive iir; c hope of the 
M Allies. The prcfent War is lojbc'cairi'::! on at a great- 
Diftance* and in more I'l^cc; at ihe fuiT.e i:..~:An: ; v/.-c::n- 

nct 



^ 






( a+o ) 

Anno 1 4, a«) rmt ihtrefbre Tupplx our Shipi occafioulf/^ but moA nu 
U. i7io great Nuoibrrs in a Ihort Ttnif. 

• li ihertfotr it w» (beo cunc!ui!ed, that the Mel 
derour ExAOiinfttion vraiarrful; if M'-'t — - r— -(iiii; 
themtelrei, ma]' be luthorizvd by ^ at*f\ 

*e. in Compluiftce with the lime Ejigcii^c, luvc R< 
Cothe fxtne Gxpedientb i* 

Sir WilUam Yonjje. 

Si «. 

Sir WTUiini ' How mocb Weight ii idded to the Deteribi 
yoojc [he Houfr, by the Dignity of their Procedure, and it« 

ccRcy ofibeir Dilputaitons. a llighc Knowledge of MadM' 
it Cuilicienc lo cvmcc. It i^ wdl known ih«( Gu*tt*m0t 
U fupfurtcd by Oprntan ; and that he whodrttrtiyi iktj 
putaiion. delhoys the Auihoriiy of the Ifgiflfctire ~ 
Norit it lefi Ap[«rcn(. that he who degrades D*l 
ScDtriliiyi BDcl JctLroys ihc hokmiiiiy ol Coofultltua, 9-^ 
dcAvuurft to fink the Mmite into Contempt. 

• h wai tbetelbre. Sir. with Tnd.gitAiicpn and Surpfiv AC 
] hcarii ibe OauK before ut ceitCur'd with fuch IndcccaCf ^ 
Langu*ge. and the Auihon of it treitrd with CantaMiH 
and RcproachM [hnt ineer Error doei not drfrnre, 
appreni, but which Were cow vcued before any Emrl 
d<t<fled. 

• I know not, Sir, why the Gentlemen who 
ifiderrntly atiuU'd. hare fulTtT'd fach Rrpicael 
CenJure and without Reply. I know not why they 
omitted CO put the Honourable Gent!emio in Mnd^ 
Refpejl dne to ihh AHemtily, or to chc CharvAerti 
whom he oppofei ; Gcntlemeaeq«al)y ftilPd with 
the SubjeA of our Enquifici i and whooi hi* ow« 
mer.Ci, bowever Ijirge, or bu Abilitici, howevrr COAI 
five, cannot give btm a Right to charge with la 
Fotly 

• To reprwieh Men with Tneap-^ky n a cKnp 
aidwerin^ their Argomrnn, httt i Meihod which tl 
this Hcufe ought to excliide frr.m oar Dcbatei* 
tnl Civiliry oir the World hat biimflt'd it (ron 
Place of Coneooffe rr Converfttion. 

• I, for my Pui.S:r. QullalwAyseadegvourtD 
Attention tn the QoeHion brfbre ot, wtthoot fuCefli 
KeaioD to be biaffed, or my Enquiries divci-.rd by Is 
atfcaucns, or perfonal Animoflci&i ner when any 
i/ltm deviate) into repro:ichfal and cnntrmptuoui Ljuj 
ftiall I be {aduc'd to think more highly df cither ha 
ncDtior Capacity.' 



(Ht ) 

' I hive always heard it repreftntc9 as an Inflar.cc of In- ^. , . 
fepilf when the Tongue and Heart iriove in Cci.ccrr, uhiu Baiiuud. 
Ac Words are Krprekntationsof the Seniimencsi and have 
tbcrebre hitherto cndtavoured ts explain my Arguments 
with Perfpiciliiy, and to imprcfs my S-.'ntimenfs with Force ; 
f Juts thought it Hypocrify to trcit StupiJi'ty with Reve- 
Ki:ce,or to hcncur Noiifcnfe with the Cv't^mcny cfa Corfa- 
Btiea, Ai Knavery fo Folly that is not reciaim:ib!r^ is to 
bclpeedily difpdtched, Eufuiers is to be freed from ObHruc- 
tiot, lad Society from Nufance. 

' Nor, Sir, when I am cenltired.by thofe whom I may 
BKodby the Ufe of Terms correfpondent with i:iy Ideas, 
VillI,!^ a tame and fiient SubmilTion, give Rcafon ro fufpefl 
tkat [ In conicious of a F.iu!t, but will treat the Accufation 
witb open Lontempt, and fhew no greater 1's.eward to the 
Abmori, than to the Authors of Abfurdity. 

' Tiut Decency is of great Ufe in puUic Debates, I (hall 
ret'ilyallow ; it may fometimes fhelter Folly from Ridicule^ 
uidpreferve Villany from public Detttlion ; nor is it ever 
BOtecircfulIy fupported, than when Meafures are promoted 
hitBotfaing can preferve from Ccntempt, but the Solemnity 
»ith»hicb they are eflabjijhed. 

' Occeocy is a proper Circumftance; but Liberty is the 
RAnuof parliamenEary Dilquifitions : Liberty is the Parent 
•fTiuthi but Truth and Decency are lomecimcs at Vari- 
*K: All Men and all Propofitions are to be treated here 
*f ihty deferve; and there are many who have no Claim 
*fe ID Refpeft or Decency." 

w. Winnington. 
S,a. 

_' That it is improper in its own Xsture, and inconfiftent Mr. Winning. 
■vkonr ConHitLition, to lay any Man under an Ob!ig;:lion ;o ^""■ 
EErft bimfelf. cannot be denied ; it i« therefore evident, that 
>M Amendment is necefTiry to the Clault: before us. 

' I have for this Reafon drawn up an Auicndmrnt, Sir, 
Ucht if approved by the Committee, will, in my Oprnion, 
Dove ill the Obj.dicni to t!ii3 Part o.'the Uiil. anci by re* 
idling it with our natural and legal Riglui, 1 hope, induce 
tile to approve it who have hitherto u-ji>ied ir. 

Icherefore propcfe that thefe Wordi ihould be fubllrtutcd 
nd of thofe which are thcSubjfift ot tre Debite, or fomc 
rr to this Purp-jfe ; Thrit no Tirfcn Hull be liibJc to bs 
'OL VII. i i fired 



fjinnoi4. Geo fined by virtue of this Aa.unlclj » Wiioefj beinf en 



m 



if. 7'to ftuM make 0»th of the Mii'de mean our or Nrglefl. 
C/^V'N^ ' Tbu5 the Nectffity oi cviminifg Men upon C 
tbeifown Ciure will be cntirfly taken awxy. aixl 
Clxnfc will thcR IhnJ, ihcre will remain aoSjfpicioDi 
juflice, or Oppreffion. becaule none can ^e pnAiTcd 1 
the ConciuiCQCC of many Pcrfoni ol difiereot lw< 

Kir. Horatio Wa1|Xtle. 

Si r, 

tr. Horat<o • It doei not yet appear ihat tbe Gent'cmci »fa 

ITalpol*. engaged id this Debite liavc fufEticisiIy aitrndcd to f 

gence of oiir AfTairi, and ihe Importance of ibe Q 

They have laviflicd cheir Oratory in dccijimirg u 

' Abfurdily of the Mctho<.U propofcd, kcd dir&uvertd t 

gacity, by (hewing how future Navies may be (jpp!i 

Cbirity-Schooli, bat have fubditutcd no rxpcJitnti 

Place oftliore which tbey fo wirmly coodinin, aot bi 

detceoded to iofoim as, how we may now gusrd our C 

m^n our Fieeti for immedUte Service. 

* There arc fomc CircmnfUnces.Sir, of iheprtfr 
which make our NcccfTity of rjificg Sea Force) gi^ai 
in the Timei of King WillLia and Qneeu Anne 
chief Advj.ntaget thai we gained over the French 
Vt'dt*. were the Confequenccs uf our\'i^L<r;ci by La 

' At Sea, St, the Bilaccc w.t a!nion ei^uat, tho'ta 
Fleet aod curs were united 1 nor did tKcy quit ilx 
caufe their Ftceis wcic dcflroyed, but bcc'ia<e ih 
obtigc<i to recruit their Lard Furco with iheir 
ShtJuM they now declare War againll u!, iney w 
under no fuch NecrfTicy of deiraiidiitg tbe Sea Jfer« 
they hare now on foot an Army of if>o,ooo Mcft,«4 
mainuincd at no greater RxpcBce than 40.OCFO by tbi 
(javernmeni ; ai they &re tlicrcforr, lair, fo fermtn 
Ijod, we baw no way of oppo&ng ifaem bui by 
Fotcej. 

* Nor is their Navy fo contemptible 31 fome bll{ 
by Conjcduie or Mifiofarmaiioii irprcfcnted it. 1] 
n hich ihcy have difpatched to AmeitcB cotifiAi ooi 
tVao iweniy Ships, of whkh the Icall carry J^>r> C^ 
tbey arc fiamg out nowan equal Number in 
brfides, their EaR-lndia Company It obligt^ .^ Ihi 
^hips of tbe Line, at tlie Demand of the GcrtrtuM 

* Thtii it appurs we have Ncighboun fufRcientlj 
to alarm us with the Smfe of tmmedia " 
which ii made more imauctentbythcc 





^H At Vntich man their FteetJ, ind whfcb We nttft .'Uno l4,<:f 
^Kic if wt bupetoDpporc them with Succcd. IL 17^ 

"inetd not fay how (iit'e w»can J^pcnJ upon any Pro- 
Uwtaf Neutrality, wbitii will be bcft oblcn-cJ when ihcf 
onoibc fcciirr'^ vjoliied ; or upon the pacific Inclination of 
tlttif MiniUcr ; which IntcrcD. rcrfuafion or Caprice, m»y 
*hict,ud to which it n noi very honauroble to trufl for 
SHoy flowc^R ihu Nation fink Ipwer. «vhtcli i* or.ly 
fiw.braufe it it not invufcd by it* Neighbour! ; intl retains 
loni. only bcc-tuie no other hal Lci/urc or Jnclma. 
ulfe I hem away f 
If ,t hi-'ifiifd wh*l c»n prompt the Prcnch to inierntpt 
ution of onr Dcfi^ns, lad in the PuniOioicni 
ive plundered aiul infulted ui f h ja pot only 
to ar^c the Wtid Alliance between the two Crowns, the 
' B'ooJ. the Cnnfomiity of Intcreilj. antl thcif equal 
of the EngltHi, but uiother more tinaietliaie Region 
It ii fii'pc^cd that under Preience of vindi- 
own Rightt, weare endeavouring (o gun che Pof- 
he Sfnntfh Dominions, "wJ engrof* the We«tth of 
ttw WorliJ, and ihtt ihcrcforeil ti the ir>fi*(e1 of every 
1 whole SubjeAa traffic 10 thole Counuio, 10 opp«fe 

whether we fuccted or fail in our Attempts on 

hive the French Power 10 apprehend. If we 

i-, they may proSibly think It neceCtry to 

irrnt of our Viflorics, Bod to hinder :ac In- 

■y. tu; Doininiim*. ihdt ihcy any fccure their own 

i, ind maintain ihrir own Influence. 

■i be defeated, of which no Man, Sir, eia 

iry, (he trclinxirn of>ll loinfultthe Depref^ 

l^uQidown tlic Falling is well known ; nor can it 

ttiat utir hereditary Knemiei would neglcCl fo 

>r<unii)' of ucackingus, 

iticy migti*. iirage our Ouifti, and obdiuA our 

t, liow they might tnuinpn in the Channel, Hrtd t}!iKlc 

-■. rr, mr own Pi>n». hotnbird our rou^n*. in»i ibrearen 

■ lAont, I hope I need Dor barely -en' ion, to incite 

.'-iy to Itich biCpatch in minningoii r.ecc*,iimny 

: anc« from lnf;i)», and from rcrror. 

-'■•jStedly, Sir, in our Power to raifc a nir&l 

■3 awe the Ocean, and :eltrain the mofl dar- 

[•'ji . .;i:r' from any Attrmpti agiinft ui, but this 

be r-T ..y Haraogoci. Objeflions, and Difpuca- 

<■ Tbere ta nothing. Sir, more frroueotly the SobjcA of 
maj oc Dedamiuioo, tbu^tbc Ultfulnefi or Danger of 



( »44 ) 

AnnoMt^Sco^ Stinding-Army, to which J declare myfelf no otben 
11.1740 inclineJ tiian by my Concern for the cooimon-Sfety ; I1 

^^-^^y^f^ lingly allow that not one Soldier ought to be fupported 
(ne public, whofe Service is not neceflary ; but furely n 
of thofe who declare fo warmly for the Honour and Pi 
leges of their Country, would expore it to the Infulr 
foreign Powers without Defence. If therefore they tb 
the Danger of Land-Forcei more than equivalent to 
Benefit, they ought unanimoufly to concur in the Incmt 
our naval Strength, by which they may be protcded, 
cannot be opprelTed : They ought willingly toj;ive t 
AHiitance to any Propofitions for making the Fffet fbn 
able, that their Declarations againft the Army may nc 
thought to proceed from a Refolution toobflnidthe Meal 
of the Government, rather than from Zeal for the ConI 
tion. For he that equally oppofes the Eftablifliment oi 
Army, and the Improvement of the Navy, declares ia 
fe&. againll the Security of the Nation ; and tho', perk 
without Defign,.expofes his Countrymea to the Merc 
their Enemies.' 

Mr, Pulteney. 
S I &. 
iAr Pulteney. * * cannot difcover for what Reafon the Bill before 
fo vigoroully fupported, but mull obferve that I have fel 
known luch vehement and continued Efforts prodnceti 
mere public Spirit, and unmingled Regard for the Happi 
of the Nation. Nothing, Sir, that can be urged in fa' 
. of the Meafures now propofed, has been omited. U 

Arguments are confuted. Precedents are cited ; wbeo Pi 
dents fail, the Advocates for the Bill have Recoarfe to ' 
ror and NeceJDty, and endeavour to frighten thofe w 
they cannot convince. 

' But perhaps, Sir, ihefe formidable Phantoms may 
be put to Hight, and, like the other lllufions of Cowar* 
difjppear before the Light. Perhaps this Neceflity wi] 
found only chimerical i and thefe Dangers appear only 
Vifions of Credulity, or the Bugbears of Impofturc. 

* To arrive at a clear View of our prelent Conditio 
will be neceHary, Sir, not to araufe ourfelves with gei 
AfTertions, or overwhelm our Reafon by terrifying £ca, 



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ver, and has been fupported, not by i:s own Anno i,^, Geo. 

it by the Interefts of iu Neighbours. The vart H- 1740- 

of the Spaniardi are only an empty Shew j they ^-/'VN^ 

rithoui Inhabitants, and by Confcquence without 

bey are rather Excrercencu than Members of 

:hy, and receive Support rather than communis 

le diftant Branches of their Empire the Govern- 

liflut, as the vital Motion in an expiring Body ; 

uggle<, which they now make, may be termed 

Dies than Effbrti. 

>j)^!o therefore, unaffiAed, we bare nothing to 

and yet from thence we have been threatened 
and Invafions. 

le Condition of the French is far difterent, cannot 
their Commerce flourifliei, their Dominions are 
their Wealth increafei, and their Government 
ih fall Vigoar : Their Influence is great, and 
I formidable. But I cannot allow, Sir, that they 
tained fucb a Height of Power as fhould alarm 
ftant Apprehenfions ; or that we ought to fecure 
gainft them by the VioUtioQ of our Liberties. 
! that the Lofs of Freedom, and the DeflruAion 
litntion, ate the worft Confequences that can be 
i from a Conqueft ; and that to a Slave the 
his Mafler is of no great Importance, it is evi- 
the Po«er of the French is of fuch kind as can 
H remotely, andconfequentially. They may fill 
M with Alarms, and ravage the Tein:ories of 
f their numerous Armies, but can only injure u< 
if their Fleets. We may wait. Sir. without a 
ir, tho* not without fome D.'gree of Anxiety, 
if their Attempts upon the neighbouriDg Princes, 

be reduced to fight for our Alurs Tnd our 
[ by a fecond Armada, which, even then, the 
I &voar, and a thoufand Circumflances concur to 

It BO focb Fleet can be fitted out by the united 
of the whole World ; that our Navy, in its 
t, is fuperior to any that can be brought againft 
iftcrs ought not to be ignorant : And therefore to 
Nation with Apprehenfions of Armies hovering 
and of Conquerors to be wafted over by fuper- 
na, is to dcflroy that Happinefs which Govern- 
rdained to preferve ; to fink us to Tamenets and 
■»d to betray as to Infults and to Robberies. 
Danger, Sir. be fqcb at has been reprefented, to 
we inpote ni Upon whom are our Wcak- 

nefs. 



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17 4W- 



Arfmi4,<J«> jiefj^ oar Poveriy, and oor Mifi.*rir> to f* ffclTji 
wbom; but ihofc who havf ufiirped the Dtrcflio^ 
which tbcy (liii dot ondcrlUnJ.or which tbcir Sol 
the I'rclrrvauon of tlieir own Power hiDtlcrttl \ 

• Thtt the SpaDiird). Sir, are now riubTed to 
Aflance, and prrhsps to ttifult and dcpopoln^e oat 
that the Prrr.ch bare difpatchrd a Klcei into the 
Sess, tootflrufl, m miy beconjcfluttd, the Prog 
Artnt, and that we are in Danger of meeting in 
which we did noc exprifl. i> too evMJenc to be com 

< Bui. Sir, is not the Spirit of our Elnroitn 
floencc lathernf oor L'onardicethanor li^ir ow« 
iJoes not the Oppofii.n to our DcCgni, hy wh 
tion it dialt be nudr, aiife from ihc Corrcmpt 
been brought upon ti5 hy oar Irrcfo^ution, Forbf) 
Del«)'if find we reCctneii the firfl tmu'.t, and rt 
earlicil t^fTej bjr vigorous Ri')>r>zi)i,our Alerchasi 
ago carried on iheir Tr tSc with Set.-u'il|r, ou 
wcu'd h^ive courted ut with RcfpcA.and our ABI^ 
u] wiih Cor,6dtnce. ' 

* Our Nrgotijiion!, TrtaiJes, Propofjifr, and Q 
not otiiy ..(T-.ic'cdthfni Ltilnfe loC'iltcfi their V«i 
their I-irrt^, and turtify their Coal'!, but gave ihd 
Spiittto rcfid rho^uho cnuld Aot becmiiuertd h 
own Cowardice and Pi.Uy. By our iP-tinieii P*| 
Tinj^erirg PreparatiOti'. we er^conigrd thofe ton) 
v-, who wr>old otbcitvirc have cnl^ hated ha tci I 
dttcrrcd rhe^c fiomdtclniinj^in our Fivotir, wiM 
or GratiiU'Je might ln*e ir^ iincd to afiill ui. Pi 
fuppptt thcHerom whom no mutual Support caa M 
Acd who will expcA that thofe will defend tbclri 
defe.t thcnifelves ? [ 

* Bu:, Sir, howenrr laic our Refenttnent vrat 
had the Warbeeri profecoted vigoroully after h wf 
we might h^tvc bteti imw fccure from Danger, 
from ^Qlpertce. not would any thing have rcoui 
gi»e Liwsto oi:r Hnemies. ' ] 

• Ftom :he Succefi of Vcmon, with fo nt 
Forces, wc tn^iy coDJt^ute what would have bccil 
*rih an Armament proportioned to hit Undeni 
why he Wis not betier rupplicd, no Reafon bai yet | 
nor c*n it be cafiiy dilcovcreil why we cithr/ lU 
the U*«r before uur Knemiei had concerted cfccj 
or delay it tiU wc haJ formed our own. 

' NotW'thilaoding fonif OpfnittuDitiabaiTj 
and air cite AJVittiag^ of a liidclca 



initiu bare fcMl 

lAtucki^H 



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*j'- ^°^* notwithftindin» our Friends, Sir, have learned Anroi4,Gto. 
^P^fe and-iiegk£l as, ana our Enemies are animated lo II. 1740. 
iniisitceaDd Obltinacy, yet our real and inirir.fic Strength l/*V*\J 
>*V"*enhc fame ; nor are there yctany Prepiratioas ni:ide 
l^ivft ui j,y (he Enemy, with Views beyond their own S.:-' 
W^f^^nd Defencr. It does not yet appear. Sir, that our 
E"*"*s, however irifolent, Jcok upon us as the proper Ob- 
IiO>*>f t Conqnell, or thnt tlity imagine it poDible to bc- 
■^Vi in our own Pom, or to confine us to the Defence of 
•KWfco Coantry. We r.re not therefore to have Recourfe 
*™«faffi, which, if ihcjt ?re ever to be admitted, can bs 
^•dbyihe utmoil Dillrcfs ; and can only become proper, 
■ *'* Wand defperatcKxpcdicnt. The En^my, Sir, ought 
' i*'!*?^' not only in our Sca.t, but in cur Porta, before item 
f {•■wffiry that one P.irt of the Nation IhouM be enflavM 

* tkeprefervation ofthereA. 

, 'T»deftroy any Pari of the Communi'y, while it ii 

* Ok Power to prefervc the whole, is ciriainiy abmrd, 
'^ ncoiiliflrnt with the Equity and PenJcrnefs of a gooJ 
I^^VniiiDent : j4nd wh t is Sluvery Icfs than Drltrudion ? 
*•« greiter Calamirv has th;t: Mm to expcti, wiio hut 
^Bq alreatiy depriven of nis Lirirrty, and rcduck.-d to ihe !.c- 
^with rhifvcs a::d Murdtrcrs? W'ith whiitSoirit, S r^ 
*«! Iw draw ha Sword upon his Inv der*^, who ha; no- 
H»j to defend ? Or why iliould he rep? ! the Ir.j.iri''i which 
4| Bike no Addition to i.:<: 'viii'ery, and will ^il only on 
■Oleco whom he is enilavM ? 

* Uii veil known taat Gr2:':u:ici! r'li- Poun-Jat'on of our 
^Wy w oor Ciant/y, and :o c -■: •■■; ■ .ors, whom we are 
■ligBd to protefi on (oir.e Occi :ij, bccaufe upon others 
V htcive ProteAion fromihcn. :.id are m-iintiinM in the 
■■n Pofleffion of our FortuncF, 3:id ih? S.'C-jrity of our Lives. 

t ivhai Gratitude is d.u eo his Couistry from a Man di- 

K(Al*d without a Crii^^e by the Lcg;n.iure. f om therein 
People, and imrK'J out for Hjr.j;hips r^nd OppreRlons ? 
Vaailan who is condemn'J to Labour and toOinger.only 
k others may fatten with InJoIcnc?, and iljmber without 
tHaji From a Man who is drng^cd to Mifery without 
1, aiid hunted from hit Rc:re:i[, as the Property c-fhii 
? 
[•Where Gratitude, Sir, is not the Motive of Aflior, 
may ieaAIy happen in Minds not accu'tom'd tc otferve 
kCadi of Government and Relations cf Society, Interelt 
'&ill 10 preGde, which m^y be diltingailVd from Gn- 
^ u it regards the immediate ConirqLiences of Adions, 
pcoafinesthe View of pretent Advanragei. But wnat fn- 
Mftoo be gratified by a Man who is net Mi'.'.er cf his own 

Aflisr-i, 




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( 248 ) _^_ 

Aiinoi4,G«o Aftiom, nor fecure in (he Enjoyment of liii AcqulEtUfi * 

II 174'? W;.y(hQuIJ h« be foU'citoo* 10 incrcafc his Prcpenj, tW 

V-^'^YN^ may be torn from ih<: Pofitflion of ic in a Moment f Of i(«* 

what Moiive c^n he afl^ who will oot become note 

by dotng hi& Uuiy f 

* Many of thorc.towhom this Bill U propoi'd toi 
have taifcd FoituiKs at ihe Expeoce of their Eafc. ird « till 
Hazard of their lives j and now fit at RcA, Cnjoyit^As 
Memory of their pall HirdHiipi, and inciting oihctt 10 cte 
Profeculion of the Time Adrenturet : How will it be raM 
rc3ron;(l>tc to drag ihcfe Men from thcir KojfC), tbaotolieiK 
any other Centlemati upon hi^own F.ll^te i Aod how M^ 
gently will our Nsvigition and our Commerre be prooniAi 
when ic isdifcover'd that cither Wea'ih cannot be pincsJlJ' 
ibem I or, if (o g-ined, cannot be crjoy'd t 

* Rut it ii Hill urged, .Sir, that there it a Nccefiiri 
niinningthe Kleet i a NecclHcy which indeed cannot tewf 
bedenied.tha'aihoit Delay would produce do frif '^ 
fequcitcei, would expofe ui 10 no Invafiont, nor ~ 
from prcfecuiing the Wxr. Yet. ai ihe NecefHty at IcwiX- 
ferve* the Regard of the Lrgflarcre, let ai cont'iir' bW 
Motives have hitherto gain'd Men over to the ) 
vice; let ut examine how our Land>FiKcet are - 
bowouf MprchanTs equip ih^ir Ships How it all - 
ed withouC Murmun, Mutintei, or Difconient, L-i :>^ 
Batumi and rafy Method crolTenrg Rcwardi i 

* ft may be objf Ard, Sir, iiiat Rewards have b««*t 
dy [irono>*d without Efiicfl; bur. not to mention tb«i 
Ani n-pich have been made ui'e of to elude thai Pre 
(cjeAing thofe thai came loc^aim them, we can it 
ihtir Iprffic.cy only, that they were too fnwll ; lki| 
wete not JuSkicnt to dazz'e the Attentioit, and »iil 
from the Profped of the dilbnt Advantages wbicb 
from the Service of the Mrtchanti. Let the Rrwtf^l 
fore be dotibVd, and if it be not then fufficieot. thvbUAl 
Thttc ti tictliingbut may be bought, if an adequate 
ofTcred ; and we ate thetefoietoraife the Reward ritl < 
be adjudged by theSailori equivalent to the locoM 
of the Service. 

* Let no Man urge that tbti is Profuftoa ; iktC 
Brcacb of Trult, and a Prodigality of the [sjIjIic 
Sir, the Mar ey thuipaid i» the Price of Liberty , it m 

-KM to hinder S'avery /rom encroaching, to preferve 
III Right) frrm Infrj^icn, and the CooUituc 
Country from Violence. If we vote away the 
OBC CUi'<i miong ut, ihofe of another may qu 



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toodd; and Slavery willadvanc; by degrees, tiil t?ie lall Annoii,Gef7. 
Atnaini cf FTeedom (hail be toit. 'I' )'4'^- 

• But pcrhipF, Sir, it will appca-, upon Rrflcflion, thit "—^ ' ^^^^**^ 
nea thii Mrthcd needs not to be pra<^]iiid. It is w.-II 

kion, that it it not necefTary fjr the whole Crew of a Ship 
labecx^rt Sailors; there mull be fume Novices, and m-iny 
*fcofe Employment has more of Labour tli.tn of Arr. We 
Ane DDW a numerous Ariny which burthens our Country, 
•irtoat defending it, and from whom wc may therefore draw 
Sapiliesfor thtf Fleet, and diilribuxtlicmamorgil the Ships 
■ jnft Proportions ; they may immediately affi:i the Seamen, 
Mid will becosie aWe in afliort rime to train up others, 

* It will doubtlefs. Sir, be cbjcAed to this Propofal, that 

tfceConiinent is in Confufton, and [h»t we ought to continue 

ixi a Force as may en:>ble as tn aflift our Allies, mainiaJn 

flar iDflnence, and turn the Scale cf Affairs in the neighbour- 

V>% Coumrtet. I know not how we are indebted to our 

Allica, or by what Tics we ars obliged to alTilt thofe who 

'ner iStled ' us i nor csn I, upon mature Con fide ration, 

■Uofc ie necellary to be always gazing en the Continent, 

taichirg the Motions of every Potentate, and anxioufly at- 

lemiveto every Revolution. There is no end, Sir, of obvi- 

Mbg Contingencies, of attempting ta fecure ouri'elves front' 

■Very Poflibility of Danger. I am indeed defiroui that our 

Fiinds, if any there be that deferve that Name, Ihould fuc- 

ocd ia their Deligns, and beprote£tcd in their Claims! ; but 

Ihirii i; ought always to be remembered, that our own Af- 

hintfieft us immediately, theirs only by Canfequence; and 

4u the oeareil Danger is to be firft regarded. 

■ With refpeft to the Atnendmcnt cftWJ to this Claufe, I 
OHocicethat it will produce any A^lvantage, nor think any 
■nlmce fufficient to julUfy the BrLSch of our Conlliti<tion, 
■vfabjeA any Man to the Hardlhip cf having his Dwelling 
^ler*d by Force. 

■ Am, Sir, I ant not eniirtly fatitiBed of the Tmpart!.iiity 
iMd Equity with which it is prumifeJ that this Law will be 

ia Execution, or what new Influence is to cn-opcrate 
Ithii X.aw, by which Corruption and Opprcilion will be 
Hied. 

Il is well'kAown, Sir, that miny o:her Laws aremitile 

tiHl by Partiality or Negligence, which remarkably 

by the ttDmenfe Quantities of Corn thatare daily 

inio foreign Countrie*, by -t'egr-l Exporcitions, by 

I Traffic I am informed that we obtain molt cf our to- 

Goldp which in Renlity is pid us fgr Corn by the 

Cki ibo* k is nudioudy reprefented tn the Nnion as 

■Md 1^ oar Tnfic with Portugal, wiio can alTure us th;.c 

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nfl9|4,GGa.tkt» Liw will not be pen-erced after the Ejnnipl 



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Itr Kr^ert 



And that there will oot be Wretctiei fourd that 

ii iQ Aic E&iotlioa oF Moocy* or tbe Grytilicuion gf Re- 

Ycnge ? 

* Thut, Sir. 1 bivc (IieA-n by whit Mean* our Fictc aajr 
now be t^uippct), kt\d how a Supply or:i>i!ar> miy be ftu 
petuaud ) foi I carnol think how the Bojt which aiTcdan* 
ted at Chnri^ School* can be more pruperly ^c»[>1«y«li a 
Pioportiop may be ca&ly fclcfleJ Tor the Service, who ml 
benefit the Public much moie than by lerving Shaipcfia^ 
Aitorniei, and pilTcring either at low Gamiog-HouKt, or* 
theloni of Court. 

* Since therefore ii ii ttoc pretmded, Sir. that tbU BOI^ 
be jufiihcd othi rwifc than by KeccfliTy. aiiil it appaui 
^uppliet may be railed by other Mean*; titice iaMeai, Wj 
crcaiiog and encoungiag SettncD, ootiiing ii pranWl 
il&ct not jMaiUlWy tend, by depicffi.Dg aiwl harrBwagib 
lodiminiQi their Nuitiberi; Itbiiik it rc4(Ni«lile faded 
that 1 Qui) continue tu oppoCe it, and hop* tbu every Fntfdi 
of IJberty, ox Conitneicc, will concur in tkt OppoAtio.' 

Sir Robert Walpole. 
$1 «i 

' I hare confid'-t'd the Bill bcfonui with cbc MrMlA 
pcuTialily, aod 1 can ice no Real'un to appr<h<»d that U 
pruJuce (uch univcibl Dilcoiitent, and give Qtcafta> |»j 
RiHoy Abufei a& the Honouitible Cicntlrujcn bf wImw ' 
oppoUd, appear to (ufpe^t. It i* not uttcommoa. &i. 
judging ol fuiuie Evcntt.aod tracing iJk&M (torn Cat 
the mull :?aj>3cious to be uiiAaken. 

* I'he Ul\d Mcihod of conjciluriDgupoa tlM futvltaj 
CDD&jcr the pill, for it it al^ayi probable, tkilftoal 
CaulCft like Confequciico will atifc. Lat aa ll 
examine what InjudJce or OpprrlTion has beta llidttrt«f«^ 
tiuc'd by Lawi of the fame Kir.d 

* Tl« r^erf'rScafchiog, however itiansw 
Subje^ of lou-l FxclamattoB, and paibctic l-Unasao«i 
new lnva£oD of the Righi5of the fcople, but bubeoi 
dy granted in Its uimoU Extent, for in end ufnogreaMri 
poriancc than ihc I'rcfeivatioa ofthe Gami; Thia 
blc Auchorii> lu) btrn alrmdy trutU-d to iJm MtpflraM^t 
th« NalioD hai been already fubjeclcd to tbti 
'J'yramiy.only lell thcH^irei nod I'aiiridKealhoald faiti 
nj. and GcntlcmKii be obliged to dUbau tJbmr HowAfl 
dilmi'i their Settirg-D.gi. 

< Yet. Sir, evea with regard to ihif Poim, thn ci 
cut, and (hut lightly grantej, 1 bare heaid &o gCAcnl 




P^ ( ^5' ) 

ifiiau, nor bcllcrc that k is look'd itpoa «■ a Gikvance by Anno %4,Gtoi 
i*f, bit theft mham it rrfiniini from living upon (he (Jarae. "■ 'T**. 
>M condeiRQi M mtirRtajn (Iiemfelpes by a moti; boocilacd 
ifafnj loJiillrjr. 

* I hope, Sir, tKofe thir think thii Iaw for ibe Prtfem. 
nBorLberr Am\i{emeM rations) and juit, will have st IcaJl 
be fune Rcfird to cnc D^fcactof ttictr C4U(Ury,anJ will 
iM thiolc ihcir X'taifon dffervet greater Sollicitode, than 
itif Fortoa« jodiheir I,iUrriics. 

• Nor bit difiicLilt. Sir. to produce [nftanccj of llie Exet- 
leorthii Po»ver for the End which is now propofcd, with. 
It my CoofcqueiKcs [hit lliou)(l liikouragc u$ f(i>in rrprating' 
ir EirrtUDcnt. I have now in my Hand « letter, by 

1^ - Mayor ami AMerraen of Briflol arecmpowcreil to 

he Sailor i wi[tttn ll>e Bounds of their Jurildiflion, 

buca Older wut ejcccuird without any Oulcries ot'Oppref- 

a. or itppreheii&jotof the Approach of Slavery. 

That tliij I^w, Sir. »ill be alwaya exKUtcd wiilt tlie 

liu(uiti4ii[)', and wit^iouE the leail Regard to any 

ivate PaipoTe), cannot inceed be dcmonflritirrly proved | 

-' "^-' r'fSbiy be abufcd by ■ Combination of Pro- 

. I rfaink, be granted, thai it is dranrn up 

.r «^iLiii..i) ihAt Re^foD, or jnllice, or the Corrup- 

c prrlent Age requirci. I know not tvfaat can be 

t !■ I ::uT thin an Ailbciationof Men unlkcly (o<ofK 

V-. !.>:■ '. 'CtVk and Intctclli. A JulUccof the Peacr, a 

iriuut ct a Ship, and a Uomroiflioncr of (he Nnvy. three 

I pfobib!? unUiibWD to each other, and of which no 

• ili iicat all .'ulliciiout lodciirethe rell to unile. to Cum- 

a Crunc tu winch no Trmpunon can be rraJily ima- 

I'hn Ciotian, Sir, which cannot but be approved, and 

fiireiy i' lon^e Proof nf Judgmeitf. and Cunlideracion, 

ill a>v Of>in)on, to have exempted the Bill, and ihofe 

WhoJV it wai drawn up, from t'le rcproikchfu) 

.i in':^. - ^tt of Abfuidnjf, Ignorar.ce. and Incapa- 

rni which the Dignity of this Airembiy does niK 

■ ■•■< when they ate incontcfiabiy juO, and which 

.:t to be nude Ul'e of when the Q^elh'oo h of 

V ■ jrr. 

' 'l^men. Sir, who are now entniftetl with pob- 

;- ' i,u have never jrec difcovered that they are ia- 

^^ PpcdccrflijT* in Knowledge, or ttnef^ri!)-, nor 

fher i^.i.if^idrri lufier any DimiauiKHi by s Comporifoa 
Sch thafc who I'llify nnd traduce tfaeni. 

I'ba^, Sir. ilijc treat o<her* with fuch Ilcentlou} Con* 
pt, iTjghl (BTciy toeivc fome illallrrous Proof of ibelr ouo 
'^ Kkz AbiUtict t 



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rioijjGjo /iV:'.::if E ; ar.i yC, iTwc cxamiie what hasbetn produced e< 
l^J^ il.i- Qutliiirn, -vcUiilI liiid no Rcafoo to admire ihcir Sagi- 
'y^^ city, or tliclr Kixulci'ge 

• Wt Ji:.vc tic.-ii toM, Sir, that the Fleet might prjperly 
be ni:inti\i by a Dcatcltnient from the Army, but Jt h^s nvc 
bicn }:ruvt.J tliat wc luve ary fuperfluous Koicet i:i tiic King- 
coin, nor, ir.dccd, \vi,l o.ir Army be found fufficientiy nume- 
TOJs, if, by nc'glt^tjii^ to tquip our Fleet, we give our Ene- 
mies an OptOitu;iiiy (.f cnicring our Country. 

■ if it he eH(]jiicvl vthnt Necef&ry there is for oar firefent 
I-'orc.:: ? uh.it E.\pi:Jiiion^ arc dtfigri'd? or what Danget* 
crefiar'ti? I tti.v'n net thintc it my Duty to return any An- 
fivcr. Iejs, S.r, the grc:tt Unh-ipi'iinefs of our Cooliitutijn, 
that our Dt-Lemiin itioLi5 cannot be kept lecret, aod thhtcur 
l^^cniits m::y itluays form Curj'ftjrcs of our DefigRi, by 
kiii.-wing Our rrcpaitiiiionr j but furely more is notta^epub- 
li.li'J t!i;u NectlJicy exoris, and tnt Govcroment hasaki^M 
to co.ico.ll wiint i(W;iulJ i'^jurc the N.ition to di'cjver. 

■ Nor can I, Sir, uppruve ttic Meth'd uf levying Sailoii 
by ti-.c- IncitciDcr.t of m Lxorbicant Reward, a Ki:War<J to be 
auj^'rr.c-.tjd at l>.c I'lcifun' of thole who aie to receive ii. 
lo.- what cm I,: ilit t oii{'Lijufi.ce of fuch Piod^'g\!i(y, bat 
ttii: chcit.', lovvl.om tlii: Idrgtll Sum ii offered, will yet refufc 
ibtiir Scrvic'j i-. Kv]"ccl.i'.ioii of a greater ? The Rtwaid 
ai.LMtiy pr>>pok(! :;, ii< my Opinitv, the utmolt Stretca d 
Libtriy ; :.ii 1 ai! biryond may becenfur'd as PrcfuGon. 

* ][ i: II >i [(I b:: ::n=gir.\'. Sir, liiat ali iheJe C^jsflioni 
wovi- ri [ liv-'ii-,. aiiJ ..r.-v.^TfJ. i:i the Reign cf the 1-ite Qaeer, 
^vh-jn a l:! o:';...- i::ne Nr.iurc was pa poled ; theyarear.- 
i»V'.;r-.-ii ..: !c.iit by tli? Nti:-:;i:y of [Juic 1 in.es, which Ne- 
i.f.:i:y i. ..7 siO'.v ;-.fL;r::'J lipcn uf. 

' \\ cCo r.ol li.J t'-;: it proJiiccJ any Confequencei fj 
fiiniiiJ:.!.".'.: ai.^i i!i:;:rui:: vt-, ili;: thi-y (hoc!d for ever Oiic^u 
r.iiii" u- fr n ;i: c. ;p ir jF to i.Mli- hoi CCS liy iIk- f.»nie Mrins : 
Jti*iJ i-.-jn rc.i .: y tiai:i;J, mi.! f vccutt-J witliout 0;^pv!Kifn, 
a -<^ V.' tii'i.t L>>-i.i>!;.int^ ; r.ordiiX believe that any NieAli;:u 
can be |ii.;^jiL« o\ tquai Lliuucy, and Itls Scvcrjty.* 

\:r Sai.iyr. ■» 

Si r. 
,, _ ,,.. « W'Uc --tV..- Prcce.^.*:n:sproiiLC*J in Di'fcncc of thi^ Ell' 
*""■**'" wil" h.^L more \...vl;t than the Ari;U3ient», muk be faewi 
bv a citcIlI L.'..';;i:;i:,i:ior. wl.ich wiil perhaps dilcover lii^c 
the CitT i'cr.z tc iii£ \i iy:l:r.'.*.Li of Utitlol ccr.vey'd no new 
Pcw^r, rcr '.-xi: i:-^ U, ii;ai-.y rclpeCt, parallel to that which 
t:iii U.llii i;.:i:c:-.iJ :j ccnur. 

* Thc}'ts;:.-s oaiy (.njcioed to enquire wvtii more tlua 

uiual 



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il StriAaefs, ■((» Strollers and Vagibondf, fuch as the Annoi4,aea 
n hai always fubjefted to Punifhmcnt, and lend them to 1I^74^- 
t Fleet, iniicaJ l f any other Place of Correflion ; a Method ^-/r^V/ 
kichmay now be purfueJ without Danger, Uppufition, or 
BmpUint. 

■ Bu: for my Part, I am not able, upon the clofcd Atten- 
t* to the prefent Scene of AfFiiri, to find out the Nccefficy 
^extraordinary Methods cf any Kind. 'I'he Fears of an In* 
fion from FranLe. art, in my Opinion. Sir, merely chime- 
•aX i from their Fleet in America the CoalU of England 
ve nothiBg to fear, and aficr the numerous Levies of Seamen 

which it was fitted out, it is not yet probable that they 
1 ipeedily fend cue another. \Vc know, Sir, that the 
UDDcr of Seamen depends upon the Extent of Commerce, 
i (brely there ij as yet no fuch Dilproportion betn-ecn their 
■uie and oun, as, that they fhould be able to furnifh out a 
ral Arinameat viiih much greater Expeditioo than oun- 
»es. 

' In America, our Forces are at lead equal to thetrg, fo 
IX it is not very probable, that, after the total Oellrudion of 
r Fleet by them, they fhuuld belu Ii;tle injured, as to he 
Ic immediately to <et faii for the Cliannel, and infult lu in 
r OUTD Ports ; to elfefl \hU, Sir, they mull not only con- 
Rr us. bat conquer us without Refittar.ce. 
"* If ibey do not interrupt us in our Attempts, nor expofe 
Kafelves CO an Engageiiunt, they may indeed return with- 

ifcfiering great Danishes, but J Unow not how they can 
Elbe Shores of America unobfcrved, or pour an uQexpefl- 

ilBTsfioD upon us. Ifihey comiiiue (here, Sir, they cjd- 

tbartos; and when they rciuni, we may prepare for tneir 

Tbeie are Men I know, Sir, vvho have Reafon to think 
kljr of the French Policy, and whofe Ideas may beexalt- 
laBclief that they cmpcrroim ImpofiibiJitiea ; but 1 have 
. prevailed upon mylclf to conceive that they can bA 
i\j, or that they c»riequip a Fieet by Sorcery, coIleA 
lAim/ in a Moment, and dety us on ourown Coall, with- 
(aay perceptible Preparations.' 

|iSir Clurles Wager. 

Si a, 

[• ne calamities produced by Difcord, and Contention, Sir Charles 
to be pointed out, but it may be proper to rcfletl Wagtr. 

I the Conlequences of a Houfe divided agaiail itfelf, that 

■aj codeavour to avoid them. 

Douimity is produced by nothing more powerful than 
tiBpcaduig Danger, and therefore it may be ufeftU to fhew 
I thofc 



( *54; 

*",f I^'o'^'Aofewhofcem « prefent ia profbond Sewhj, il 
, yv/'-v 1 Power of Fruce is more fonnicUblethu tbcT arewil 
*^^'^ allow. 

* My Age, Sir, eoablet me'to remember faaajr 1 
tiona of the War in ihe late Reigns, to wbicb maajr i 
men are ^trangerst or of which the/ bare oaly ii 
Idea* from Hittorj and Tuition. 

* ia the fecond Year of the Reign of King Willi 
French gaioed a Vi&ory over the united Fleets of th 
time Powers, which gave them, for the Sommcr W 
the Domiaion of the Channel, enabled them to ibut 
Merchanu in their Ports, and produced a total Sofpe 
our Commera. 

* TboA, Sir, to whom the Importance of Trai 
well known, v^i'A ea&iy appiehend the Weight of thi 
roity, and will, I hope, rejed do Meafiirca that ban i 
fcii Tendernels to prevent it- 

* Our Ships, Sir, do not lie ufelefs becaafe tberc 
Want of Seimen in the Nation, but bccaub aaf Sd 
preferred to that of the Public. 

* There are now to my Knowledge in one T«*n 
Weft CoaQ, no fewer than 1 200 Sailors, of which I 
third Part muy be juAly claimed by the public Inieic 
do I know why they who obftinately refute to bn 
Country, Ihould be treated with fo macfa Tendenie& 
more rcalooable titat they jhonlii fuSer by their I 
than that the general Happiseft Ihould be emlxDgeid 

Mr. Southwell. 
S 1 a, 
Mr.SouthveU ■ When any Authority fhall be lodged id my H«^ 
exercifcd for the public Benefit, I ftiall always emhl 
eiicrt it with Honefly and Diligence 1 but will ■ 
made the Inflrument of Oppreffioo, nor execute^ 
miffion of Tyranny or Injultice. 

« As therefore the Power of fearching is to be pi 
the Hands of JulHces of the Peace, I think it need 
dfclare that I will never perform fo hatefol a PM 
Office, and tha;, if this Bill becomes a Law, I will 
from the Place to which my Authority is limited, rad 
contriburc to the Mifeiics of my Fellow SubjcAi-* 

Mr. Lyuleton. 

Si a, 
„ , * All the Arguments which have been ofiered in 

mr.Lytueton^j this B.ll. are reduced atUlttoone coiObKt Afli 
the NcceOity of paffing it. 



(HS) ^_ 

« been told, Sir, with great Acuimelf. tluit a Anno 1 1, Qeo 
be cariioi on wi;houi Men, and itiat Hkipt »ta " 1740 
tvnthvKSanorii udfrom rbenceitnuirerrcdchu tbc '>>^^Y'*^> 
lit Mcvflsrr. 

Farces trt, by fotne mfao', ne:clljir/ to be railed, 
■rjl OpponcDts ot the Bill will not deny ; but they 
Tore allow the iDference, ihic che Methods now 
are neccfitrjr. 

y SIC of Opinion, Sir, (hat ctoel and oppfcflive 

cm never be juilibecl, nil all others have been 

It Effeft : they ibink that the JLaw, wbeo it was 

,fiii, w» unjuJI, and are convtDced, by ublerviag 

was revived, thai it was by ExperiCDCO dil- 

be nfeier*. 

ry.abfolute NeceOtty, i>a formidable Sounds and 

iIk Keikand timorous into Silence and (JoapU- 

it will be Toaod, opoa Refle^tioo, to be olten no- 

ifl »dte FtiiDt, TO amu'eani todcluJc usi aoJ tbn 

rcprerented ns neccITir)' to the Public, is ooly fome- 

;C0Mvmicnt to Men in Power. 

leceficy. Sir. has heretofore been produced as a Plea for 

[•> fdbe no oiherwiie defenJcd. Jn the Dnys of 

-■ Money was declared to be legal, beeauie it 

;-.! ... Suvh ws* the Rcafoning of the Lxwyeri, 

)c.cfniina:ion of the Ju^^gei : but the Parliament, 

lest of PAtrioit I wiibeui Fear, :ind withoat Cor- 

ind irfluenced only by a fincerc Rfgird for the Pub- 

of a diff^reni OpinioD, aad neitlm admkted the 

nor Netelfiiy. 

It will beeofflc (u on rh'n Ocdfion to aA Wjth eqoal VJ- 

r, tMl cefivipce our CoaDcryaicn, thtit vfe proceed upoa 

Principles, and that the Libenics cf the People ah 

fc»ief Care. 

I bope rut Dull unite in defeating any Auempts that 

iaipiir the Rights which every Briton boafti a» lii» 

■nyhi. and rrjici a Law which wH\ be equally dnadad 

' ierllcd with the In^ificicFa o( Spain, 

ftr Wdliim VoB^e. 

Si a. 
jTbo' nuny particular Clauf» of thi^ Uill have been 
roved ar^l oppoled, fomc with more, and t^ainc witti 
ifon, yet ihc Committee hai hitherto agr«ed that a 
II far thii Pucpofi jt tcc*ff»ry in the prclent Sute of our 
ins Principle wc have proceeded thus far* 
en have piupuicd their Opiaiooi, coniiibutoj 



Sir WiUiafn 
Vonfc. 



(256) 

Aiinoi4, Geo ^^^■'' ObrcTTatiofls, tnd laboured » iH an A£i 
IL 1740. Kdmitted to be of high Importance to the genera 

^^yV"^^ * But now, Sir, when fome of the BiScali 
mounted, fome Expedients luckily flruck out. 1 
tioDS removed, and tl^ greac Defigii brough 
Execution, we are oa a fudden informed, that 
hour is fupcrfiuous, that we are amufing ourfel' 
lefs Confultations, providing againft Calamiti 
never happen, and raifing Bulwark) without an 
< therefore the Quellion before us it of no Imp 

the Bill ooght, without farther £xaiDtnatioii» i 
rejected. 

, < 1 fuppofe. Sir, I fhall be readily believed, 

clare that I (hall willingly admit any Atgumeo 
evince our Safety ; but in Proportion as real Fi 
Danger is to be defired, a fupine and isdoteat 1 
is to be dreaded and avoided ; and I cannot bat 
Bncmtes are more formidable, and more malici 
Gentlemen that oppofe this Bill have reprelente 

* This Bill can only be oppofed upon the 
that It gives a Sinflion to Seventies more rigor 
prcfeat Circumltaoces require ; for nothing can 

' lacious or invidious than a Comparifon of this ] 

Demand of Ship-Money, a Demand contrary 
and enforced by the manifelt Exertion of arbitra 

* How has the Condud of his prefent Majt 
lemblance with that of Charlei I ? Ii any Moo 
Order of the Council ? Are the Detcrmina 
Judges let in Oppofition to Afls of Parliam 
Man injured in hts Property by an unltmitc 
of the Prerogative i Or any Tribunal ellablifiie 
the Laws of the Nation ? 

< I'o draw Parallels, Sir, where there is no I 
and to Bccufej by Infinuations where there is n 
a Crime: to raife Outcries when no Injury i 
and to deny a real Neceflity, becaufe it was on 
for a bad Purpofe, is furely not to advance the pi 
which can •only be promoted by jull Realontn] 
Reflcflions, not by Sophillry and Satire, by 
without Ground, and by InlUnces be&de the Piu 

' • Mr. Lyttlecon. 

S I R. 

Mr.Lyttlcton * Tnie Zeal for the Service of the Public 
covered by collulive Subterfuges and malicioiu 
lions ; a Mind attentive to the common Good, « 
(M ao Occa£oa like this, have been at Leifurc 1 



( '^57 ) 
l«rmler> UluIlratioD, and exu-aft Din^fFv^ion from a cafuil Annni4 Gro 
Snirk. II. 1740. 

■ It a, indeed, not impoflible, Sir, that I might cxprcfs \../^y~'\^ 
nffelf obfcurely, ard i( may be therefore nccefliry to dc- 

ctuttlut I intended nodilrefpe^lful Uefleftion on the Con- 
dadoThis Majeftj', but mult oblerve at the fame time, that 
(Mnie or iiuccurate Expreflions ought always to be inter- 
Vmi in the molt inoffcnfivc Meaning, and that to be too 
npdoat in dircoverirg concealed Infinudtions, is no great 
raof of fuperior Integrity. 

■ Wildom, Sir, is l^Mom captious, and Hon:S.y feldom 
fiifpicioos: A Man capable of oniprehendi; g the whole £x- 
tcMofa Queftion,djrJains to divert his Atiention by trifling 
Obferrationit and he that is above the PrafliceofljtHe Art;, 
or the Motions of peciy Malice, does not eafily imagine theai 
indeat to another. 

' Th»l in the Queftion of Ship-Money Neceflity was pre- 

InM, cannot be denied : and therefore aU that [ al{'er:cd, 

vfcicb wa> only th^t the Nation had been once terrificH with- 

, Mt RcaloD, by the formidable Sound of NeccHity, is evident 

■■d BncoDtefied. 

t- ' When a Fraud has once been praflifcd, it is of LTe to 

' nwaber it, that we may not twice be deceived by the fame 

Anifer, md therefore I mentioned the Plea of Neccffity, 

ttnitmiy be eoquir'd wiiether it is now more true than bc- 

,, * Tbitthe Parliament. Sir, and not the judgei, is nov ap- 

[IGtd to, il no Proof of the Validity of the Argument! which 

■tvc been produced; for in the Days of Ship-Money, the 

,. tWnt of tbe Parliament had seen aiked had there been any 

Av^Kft of obtaining it : but ttis Court hj;i beer convmcM, 

l^^inqaent Experiments, of the [r!l;xLbility of ihe V^r'.'n- 

^•^tBOtfUui defpaired of influencing c!ic:n by P'-j'p ;i, cf AJ- 

l'^Age,or intimidating them bv FroMii.-v: ^Irr^c's. 

^. * l^bythis and every future l'a'l<'.m>.nt ini'iiiL !'.;i' Cnn- 

mB, and, like them, dittinguiih between rra' -ind pr^tci.ded 

Ihceffity i andlct not us be tcrrifiid by iJ!c C imiun into 

Vbt Efbblifliment of a I^w at uuce u/lIcis and op^-rtiTivc.' 

Sir William Yonge. 

• That r did not intend to mifreprpfent t'lc Meaning of S'r Wi'Ijam 
te Honourable Geollemsa, I hope it is not n^i-'-'fi'v to .ie- ""•''t*' 
iu* i **^ that I hive in reality been gi^i'ty or any Mifre^ 
vlieaiatioo. I am no; yet convinced. It' he did n«t intenJ 
pmllel between Ship- Money and tne prefcn: K<>1, to wh-<c 
ifpofe was his Observation * And it he d:d intend it, W4s it 
Vol. Vil. L I not 




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not proper to flirw there waj no Rcfcmbfancc, nni 
which couM be interred trorn it wai therefore f-iflacieoi 
iocoitcluiive ? 

■ Nor do I only differ. Sir, in Optoioo with the Hoog 
b!e Gevtlemin with relation 10 his Compnnfon ofMtai 
which have notning in cooimon with each other 1 but 1 
venture to declare* that he is not more accurate in fan 
tioai from Hittory. The King did not app!}' to the Ji 
beciurcihe Psriiament would not have emntcd him the 
oey that be dejuindcd, but bcciiulc hjj chief Ambitiaa w 
govern the Nnion hy the Prerogative alone, and to (Vet 
(elf and his DeCccndaois froni p^rliamencary Enfjuines, 

< That this Account. Sir. is jull, I am conhdcni the 
tortet of thole Times wiU difcover ; and therefore any 
dious Comparifon between that P^irltaracnt acd any oUm 
wilhom Poundaiion in Reafonor in Truth.* 

Mr. Bathuil). 
Sir, 

* That thU Law witi eafily admit, in the Execgtion 
foch Aburciaiwillorer balbnce the BeneUti, miy reuli 
proved; and it wiH not be conBllent wtih (hacR<gxrd 
Public, expeiicd from lu by thole whom we reprHcai, ig 
a Law which may proibably become an I oUi uokcnt 01 
fion. 

* The Servant, by whom I am now «tended. 
termed, accordingtoihe Dciermlnatioooflhe \ i*Jicw 
thii Bill, aSej-nring-Man, having been once 10 the 
Indies; and he ainy thcrcfurc l>e ibiird from mr f 
and dragged into a Ship by the Auihoiuyof 1 ' 
Peace, periuipi of fome absndon'd Prbiiiime tt^-- 
Commi&on only 10 influence FJc^lioni, aiidaw« tbote 
Kxciles and Riot AiXi cannot fubdue. 

• I ihink It, Str, not improper to do-hr*-, that I 
Force oppole the Execution 0/ a Law }ik:tbUi i 
bar my Doori aod defend ihcm ; that I woatt) call 
boors to my AffiSutce; and treat thofe who IboQ 
to enter, without my Ccafcot, atThicfca. Roffijuis, s 
dcxeri'* 

Lord Gage. 
Sir, 

• It h well kflo^vn that by the laws of tUs NsiSm 

Zis in feme Dtgiee con&dercd u a Cnme, aid 
ebtor bai onty ihis vXdranuge ovex the Feloa, tl 
BO! be purfoed into hii Dwelling, nor be fcrx:; 
Shelter of his own Houfc. 



' I tUak it Is aniverril)}' agf«d, th« the Condition of i Anno T4. 
UuiiDcbtii aliMdy fufficicmly inlfcritle, and thiit he il i7«o. 
wiiAtbe more w.'inSy of ihe l^giflative Fuwer to conirive 
AtVruiluit of bit I Urdlhlpi, tlun Additions to thcrn ; and ic 
fontb-rclore no ificonfldcnble OKjcAiori lo thii Bilt, that 
l^Wt/tmBg tbc Power of entering Hoareiby force, tt ma/ 
ft the Hjrpiei of the Law an Opportunity ofrniering. in 
CW Tamult of an Imprrf:, .md of cingging a Debtor to l 
•olfen Prifon. ondrr Frncncc cf forcing SiiJoii ioio the Scr- 
vireori^CrowQ.* 

Mr Tracy. 

St.. 
' Tlut foroe Ijkw for the Ends propofed by the Bill before ». _ 
Lkcecdiir)'. I don'r fee how we c*n doubt, after the Decia- *' 

"^i of the Adairrals, who are fully acqiuinted with the 
X for which Pruvifion it lu be made, and of the Mint- 
17. wJiofe Knowledge of the prefent St»tc cf our otva 
jih, »rid (he Udigni ofoor Entmie}, ii doubtlcft more 
tiiA Uiey can xcquire who arc not engaged in public 

ire, (he Meafure* row propofed are neccffiry, 

iu>' tniy not l>e "grrcable to the prcl'ent Dtfpofiiioni of 

tiePeopIc. forwhofe Prefrrvaiian they are intenjcd, 1 fljiH 

1 lUilc it iQj> Dmy 10 concur m them, thai ihc public Scrvico 

I ^ not be retarded, nor the Sifety of a who'e Nition ha- 

[**'td, by afcrupuluui AiteniiuD to minute Objc£tiona.' 

Ut CainpbetL 

' 1 hire orteo amUn my Elogics on Brrtini Liberty, and Mr. CampJieU 
"iDecbraiiom of t^e EJ(celIcn>:e ol our L'onlliiuiion, the 
tulity of oar Guverameni, and the Ffltcjcy of our 
been rrproiched by Foreigner! with the Prafticc of 
T:l. at act Ulii(faip which woatd ralfe a Rebellion ia 
i' ' rchie;, ini kindle tlwirc Nationi into \fadneft, 
U \»ny Agei known no other Law than the Will 

nr rn.TjL'i. A Hirdihip which includes [mprironroent 
Slavery, aad to which therefore no Aggravauoos oaghc 

• But if lullice and Rcafon, Sir, are to be overborn by 

ty 1 if \' " '•, to Aop our E»r» againil the Com- 

of the f J »od bajfd^ ojr Hearts at the Sijht 

llieir Mifery, let a at leall not dcflroy our Meraoriei, nor 

*rive ut of the A Jnntagci of Esj^erjence. 

[• X^r. HI ctK^we, sir, what were the EfTsfb of th» hateful 

L I z Autho- 



( 26o ) 

Anr>o i4,<ico Authority when it was formerly configo'd to the Mtnftnta. 
II. 740. Were our Fleets mann'd in zn Inftiint ? Were our Harboun 

l-^^Y%^ immcdiate'y crouded with Siilors? Did we furpriic wi 
Enemies by our Expedition, and make Conqucfti before ip 
Invafion cculd be fufpefled ? I have heard. Sir. gf ao fixh 
Confcquerces, nor of any Advanttgcs which defervcd to be 
purchafed by Tyranny and Oppreffion We h«'e found thit 
ver>' few were procured by the Mzgiftrstes, nod the C!mge 
of leiiing and conveying was very confiderabie, and thtrrf.ie 
canrot but concI'Ji^e, that illegal Meafure^. which have bees 
once tricdwithout Siccers,fhoa!d,foradouble Reafoiii never 
be reviv'd. 

Sir John Bernard. 
S I R, 
Rir John ' It is not without Regret that I rife fo often on thiiOc- 

)l:ui.;ud. cafioii ; for to ilifpuic with thofe whofe Dett;rniir.atlont rt* 

not iiifluLTced by Re^fon, is a' ridiculous li>i)t, a tircfoi&c 
L'llinur without Profpefl of Reward. 

■ But as an Honourable Gentleman has lately remarked, 
that by denying the NccelGty of the Bill, jnllead of loakiaf 
Objc£lions Lo farticuLir Ciaules, the whole Dcfigo of fipctng 
Expedients t) lupp')' ^^^ ^^^ Service ia at once defeated: 1 
think it ri^c^lTsry t:> remind hirai that I have made maflj 
Obj.£lion£ to this Bill, and fupported ihcm by RcafoBtwhidi 
have not yet been anfwer'd. Bot I Ih^ill sow no Ion|Lr 
confine :i'.v Remarks tofingle Errors, but obrerve that there 
is one ^;' -lal Dcfi^, by uhich the wfaoie Dill is made ib- 
iurd &r.iJ ufelcf^. 

' For the Foundation of a Law like this, Sir, the DefcHf- 
t;on ol a Seaman ought to be ti)u5 accurately laid down, k 
uuglii to be decland v>ii:it Afi< (hall (ubjeA him to that Dt' 
ri^minatiLT, and by what Mean», aficr having once cnli£ei ' 
hitalclf in cliis ur.hnppy Clafs of Men, he may withdraw ic- 
10 a mure fccurc and huppy S:ate of Life. 

* Is a Man, uho has or.ce only loit Sight cfthe ShoKt to 
be hunted as a Sea. an ? Is a Man who by Tr:i£c ha. ca- 
Tichcd a Family, to be forced from his Poneir>:>n< bv tu 
Auilurtt^cf ..n Tinnriifs ? Is a Man, who hdS putc^ikftd u 
Eitice, and built a SlVii. to follicu the Admiralty for a Pio- 
te^liuii from the rii.-i'^r.'^jcuring Conltable? Such QjillioniAi 
tliefe. Sir, m.iy betik'd, which thi: Bill before u^wJicuhU 
no Man en Ar.l'wer. 

• If a Bill for this Purpofe be truly neccl]\ry, let it at leafl 
be frv'ed from iiizn oitcr.livc Aufcrdiiiek i It: :t be drawa op 
iu a Turiu as ilihcreLt as u pclUbie Iruai ;i;Lt cf the Bill br- 

ion 



( 26i ) 

em, audit Uft [am far from imagiaiog that a Liw will Anroi4,Geo. 
ctmirivcd not injurijus to Individuals, nor detrimental to H- 1740. 
Public i not contrary to the firft Principles of our Ella- ^/"V'^SJ 
anciu. sad DoiloudL-d with Folly and AbiiirdUies.* 

Mr. Viaffr. 

Sir, 

A Definition of a Seaman is fo necelTiry in a Bill fur Mt. Viner. 
\ Purpote, tltat the Omiflion of it will defeat all the Me- 
d» that CJa be diggeJted. How ftiall a Law be executed, 
■ Pcnaltjr inflidi^, when the Magitlrate has no certain 
iks whereby he may diltinguifli a Criminal ? And when 
a iJic Man th-.t is profecut^d may not be confcious of 
ilr, or know ir.at the Law extended to him, which he is 
Lr^ed with having cftended. 

if, IQ de£oing a Seaman on the prefent Occafion, it be 
nghc proper to have any Regard to the Exampleof our 
dcceffi>n, whofe Wildom has in thii Debate been lo much 
piified I it may be obtervrd that a Seaman has been for* 
rljr defined, A Man who haunts the Seas ; a Definition 
idlfBcau to imply Hubit, ami Continuance, and not to 
iprehcsd a Man who has perhaps never gone more thin 
»gfe Voyage. 

Bat iko* this Definition, Sir, (hou'd be added to the A- 
adoMMs already propoied, and (he Bill thereby bj brought 
mvhlt nearer 10 the conl'.itu:ioniil Principles uf our Ou- 
aaieaCi 1 cannot yet thiuk it fo much reflihcd. as that 
Haidlliips will not out-weigh the Bent^fits, and therefore 
[I coBiinue to oppofe the Bil, tho' in lonie purticuiar 
aSn I have do ObjeAion/ 

rbc Term Sea-faringMan was then left out, and the fe- 
ll Ameodmenta were admitted in the Committee, 
tcociffcd the Report of His Majefly's Anfwer to their 
licf*! That he would give Direfiioni for a Scheme to 
prepared to.prevent the Running of Wool. 
toad a firtt Time, a Bill lor fupplying fome DefeAs in 
Iawi for repiiring and rebuilding County Bridges : and 
repiairing, enlarging, eieAing, and providing Houfes cf 
rBfiion. 

Ic lotli. Read a firll Time, a Bill for the Improvement 
c MaoufilAure of Woollen Broad Cloth, and to prevent 
fef to the making of the fame. 

md a fccood Time, a Bill ior fupplying fbme Defefli 
he Ijaws for repairing County Bridge^, and for pro 
m Hoida of Corrcdion. 
• Read 



t 262 ) 

An-'K>i4.Gca Rend a'tbip] Tirsr. anl p«fl«d the * Bill fin c^^_ 
II '740 Trade lo and hwm ?A/f» through /r»JE«: Oidoti • 



* Abilrad of the Hill, for opearag a Tnde to ta^ < 
PerCh, ihro' Ruffix, 

«• IfWftfr it /./f/f-ri Paltnt, iattd ftlnaiy 
firfi *nd /fi9t>A YtHT rf Kfg Philif *mJ :^rm 
Msftfi/t did iremt f ti'r Mrrtbaml Mvtntmftrt *f ■ 
fir ibf Difpviry </ Lamdi, Ttrrifwrin, ffitJ, ^t, 
m*d atH h*fxt their tan AivenliTt or EmttrfnKt, ty ^ 
Wwlffl/^w. itmmwlj frt^iitmiti tin foU Pr,~^:}.-e tl 
M tU OtmtMtMi and Ter^irtrUi e/* /W / ' 

jfiUvjiHrrmi thf LibtrtUt, iifc. grrnntrJif ;.'.. i^.. ■^t:itl 
Hut, •utrt fifttrrivarJi bi JS of Ptnlmmtai m ikt 
^tfttn EUsiaiilif tonjirmid to lift /aid Mftt^m a%d tkilr\ 
tf^i, iij ttr Namf e/'The h'tllowdup tjf ^:^>5llfti W 
for the Dtkovtty ul new 1 radci (wma nmi^^m/f 
Jtm^aXaarfairv J Ay -k'W. 6 /A* /«iV ftihmJUf ,rff , 
/t/tPfivi/ftt ff Itadmg la and fttm iht 0»mMa»»\ 
Hfitt tf m Bmpttw «f fiM^», jVmt Nmth' 
fmft-^itmrJt^ and fhrtb-'astfi viardt f^^m Ltmdmi 
tbt CwMtrui ff Armtitia Majsr, ar Mimr, iMf*,'' 
Piffiat er it/ Cf/fiian Sra : Afd it>^r«f , hy a» 
icwfr aad 1 1 tif Yiori rf Krttg H'lOfam III. tj n/m 
tfRjfJra.aij Sf ■ i Rtmlm balk a R'i*i » 

fm tf tot /aid 1 , tw Paymimf if 5/ f*J • 

And '-.•.htrioi, ^ am .it rj' hii latr Mapfy Ch^rlo 
twttJir^i»X and iantpfi^ y ^i'iffiif awd S 
tmti.ti. 'that m Cr^ ^ fitfiga Gfvjeih oW 
m'^^ tf tht fiid AH mtf ttveift^h r-r* Karl 
iSr. tm Et^f'/t IT M&ir Siifftin, w: -^ ^ < 

at thr/im n ict^tT-t^J. ^tallttfitrff • '' ' 

ttkft Plui pr F 1 BT Cnf^t'y. 

fiafttf tki jAidL.^. . ?t»dMattm,mr iXii.).-.- ,. 

tkiH Fxrti 'u-h/n tar /aid f^atd, aad CtmamJitiu ■ 
mjAel^ h&dh;{'* '■- ■ ■'•■■'■■i f- ■•. — / — - 
Miter, Ka^ tit i 

i- and divtatd m iM tit Jaid 4. 

n-y.-v.-- :<:/ /nid AS jhaU wtt tMtt%dtt ft^i:*-xt iti 
»/ IW C*mmtditiu tf ibr Strnj/ili tr Lnfami $*"*. n II 
*«-^ St/^of, aavij rttd at ttfrtia ■•'■ - tit 



, ( 4fi3 ) ._ 

[TWHonfa rcfolved Aem intoiCommitteon itiC BiH for Anpn t ^,Gea. 
ACMin{;Cinent of SnincD, and Ipndlcr Manning ihe HfiMi- 
,«hnSirCbarl« Wager ofirr'd* Claofe by which irwa> L/"V'N«,/ 
r*s*dffd. Tbat no Merchaoti, or Bodies Corporate, or 
^Akl) hire Sailors at bigiicr Wages than 5; 1. for the 
,oa Pain of forfeiiiagtlie tttbte Value of iJieSam fo 
liixt wliKb Law wiu 10 commence xfcer Fificcn Dxvt, 
for B Time to be agreed on by the HouCd. 
llfokc to the following Put pole. 
St^. 

I Wt, ar th* imfoflu^ any EaJflmMia Cnmwt»ditirs 
tAi m* S^fffiigt ^"^ mtV4gauJ at ahrv*faid, t9 tiv 
' 4»d Eafiv.-nrtl t/ Caba btim Spi'aiitMf titW tht 
tin it nt tj It/t very GroM/lh if ibt fmJ Plaett 
^md'u.hertat et thi Timt ff pfj/ifg tf" faidlafi' 
tjIS, It Kuaj rgt ujual {g bring 10 tbti Ki»pUm Ravr- 
CtmmMSlitj af tht Crp^wib and ManvfaQurt »f 
! &M^a. A»d ivbittai it may bt tf ^t*tt A^vmrn- 
FXt^iAjv, Ic 9f€H a fradttt mnd f'sm Perjta.lkro* 
t^fnmrtir^ tbt Ctn/umpiisfi ef ibt WvslUn tni 9tbtr 
m ibrrt^, if Rtnv Silt, and tfbtr Gttd', tht Pr$- 
Jffm/iM, bf ptrmiifrd fa ht imptritd inio thii Kin^dtm 
y^tptt ii return ftr furb tVseiiin and nbtr Mam/tt- 
*fnil bt txpoTltd fum bintt ihIq RtiJ^a, and frsm 
ttltmJ inia Ftr^a, and net e/bn^Kife : Bt it tnaBtd^ 
" I f.\m and after tbe ij^b 0/ j^unt 1 74 1 , it /Iba/I bt 
ifK rt.itj Mrmitr ef tbt Jatd FJlrv:Jbip «r Ruffia- 
t^'lajhit tf mU tibtri. It imfprt into ibu Kiwgdtm, 
SJtifjftKg, na^rigatfd aenrding ft LatKt fram 
ting M ibe Czar, Rafi'-Siii, er aiy otbtr Goedt 
and Mamfuiimrt ef Prrfa ; prsvidid fmt'i 
M. if tbt GrtfiKib w ftodmc ef Pttfa, br pur- 
j If S^ftr Huiib WxlUn and ofbtr Manufaihriet, er 
'*td fram Great' Britotm It RtiJ/ta^ and Jram thentt 
[*• ftrfia (add and Sih/tr in C«int and BnUhn tx^ 
'^ Wi/i ibe Prvdace ti^jiv fnm tie Sa/rt ef fv.k 
"*'. \^i. txftrttd ti Raffia, and tanird into F<tfia 
' ' and aat ntbtw^wift, mpaa fa^ng «r fKunr^ tbt 
P^jt tblt fcr tbe funte. atisr^mg la fuib fft,lii and 
'^< ai an by t,aiu f»*ftnbt4 and prafiffd 4it tbt 
■ V^ Gandi tf tbt Growth and MmnufnHttt tf Per* 
,1^''^ 'nia ibu Kii^dam fram any Part tn tbt Lmtnt- 
j^t*" f*€Tj.,- pit af tbt Tto-if, «r Levant Company. 
t- ^ '' aftJfd. t^i. Tbat no Si/*, ar tthtr Prcdnt* »r Ma- 
/ V /'">», fitalibe imferttd inta Grral Bnlain, thia* 
' ^ "^arif^ of (kit AS. mUfi tbt Jmferttr lobe an Oatb, 

ar 



tor thxt ot the Crown, is univcMally known ity ever) 
oftbeN&Ty.and every Commander of a Ti?dnig-Ve 
* A Law therrfbre. Sir, to rcflratn them m rime 
Siom foch exorbitant Demands, to deprive them 
Profpt£l> which have often no other Effect but to loll 
IdicDefs, white they flculk about in ExpeOatioo ol 



cr maki /ifirmatim htfw-t the Cel/t39r, is'c. at tkt Ptri 
fvtatiem, that to tht btfi nf bis » ittif KuruiU^t ani 
the Si/i and other tht Pr^Jutt or A'amifaiiurtt of Pr 
taintd in bit »r their Enlritt, •wasornvere rtallt fan 
Barter •with Woollen, i^c. CaaJs exported /rem Grtat 
to Rtiffia^ and from tbtmt can ieJ iata Ptrfia ( not bii^ 
Silvtr in Coin, tr BrllinJ or ixitb the Pttdute ar^ 
Salt! of tht faid Goodt, and not otbtr-wift. Jad im dt 
takini fitth Oath or Agtrmatign, bttnga Quaker, mil ^i 
tfc. pall be liable to be feixtd and JotfrUtJ, at if t 
bad been imported comtrary /» tit /aid A3 rf fbt 
Cbarlet //. 

Provided ahvajs, and be it enaQed, i^c. That mttbh^ 
A3 fiali extend to tht permitting, ufing, er iiearing 
Kingdom, any turongbt Silh or other Mamv/^einri $J 
men/ieied in tU AJ3 llib r/ tt^iUiam III. •wbirb mt 
for/ed by virtue tbtrerf thro' Kn/jin ; but the /aid ji 
Cleu/t thereof, ije. for re-exporting the fame, tt he 
Parte, i^c. 

And be it furtbtx tnaStd, Ift That if awf i^M/i 
fiallar/e, ivbefber any if tke GwJs to be imparted, i 
cf the AB, be of the Grtnutb or MannfaHare^ Peri 



{26s) 

^Uxi lo btftJfr th«in from dM«!virg themferves^ em- AfinAt4,G«i. 
r*fiin{ lh(-MeTclMiiit.iin.l ncglttling (he general loiercil ''■ I74'J- 
licir Country is undoubtedly jull. Ii 11 jull.Sir, bccaufet 
ftnl 10 ciie Public, t( ii ccccH'iry to prevent Uie gmccll 
mny thai cut Jail u poo a Pecple ; to prrfcrvK at from re- 
K| Tjtwi Irom the mult impbnbleof our F.nemicsiand 
jidl ben ulc, with reiped to parricul-nr Men, it hns 00 
iSeacy but to fupprei'i Idlcocfi, Fraod, and Exionioo.* 

f . H. Fox. 

S I t. 

I tuvt no Objeflinn to any Part of this Claurc, ejrcept Mr ILFox. 

Okj propoied for ttie CommenceDent; to m.ik« a Law 

A tuy pertiic)ou» ?ti&ict, to which thc/e are itiong 

HftittfWff. 4<id (0 give tDCife ivliole Itiiercll max incito 

10 It, 'ri.Tic tartti^ their Si^ljcmci, beforr the Law fnalt 

to operate, iccmi not very corfiltcnt with their Wifdon 

U H Mt denied, Sir. thx the Merchanu are betrayed, bj 
Rlffud to private IntcreQ which prevails too frrqacmiy 
■ Kble; Viewi, to (>ribe away from the Servhceoi the 
wn, t>r Urge kewardt, (hole Sailor* whofe AllilUnce ia 
(o nccdUrj' lu the Public j and thetrfore it ■> noi lu be 
pBfd tbat tiicy will not employ iheir uimoll Diligence 

prove th« Interval which the Bill ailowi in nwUtiug 
itn6i for the enfuing Year, and that the Sailors will nut 
tIt og3g« themfelves betgtc this Law flail pttcliule 
t Ptofpcdi of Advanvge. 

Ai ibetcfore 10 mnke no Law, and tointke a Law that 
•M be obfcrved, n in CoRre^ucncc inc liiitie, arxl u the 
* allott'd by the Oaufr, ai ii now Itandt, in.iy make the 
le Provibon iBcffirtniial. it ti my Opinion that eiiber it 
u to begin to operate to-morrow, or Chat wt ought la 

the whole AtTiir in in prdeot Su(c.' 

f Rdbut Walpole. 

S I *, 

NotAing liM* greater Appearance of InjofHee, than tOj;, Robert 
ilh Men by v>i:m of Lawk with which they wetr itot ac Wal^v. 
attd ; the law iherefiore it alwajis fuppofrd lobc known 
iKife who have oScnded ii : bccaufe jt is the l>u!y of 
J Mao to know it, and cenaiitly it ought to be the Care 
eLegiil""", 'hat thole whom the Ijiw will -.ffrrt, may 
a P^ibility of knowing it. and that thole ra^y not be 
bed tor Failing in their Duty, whom aothtng but inr' 
Ir JffcoraKc baibtirayed laca Ofi'ence. 
I VI!. Mm ' Btti 




( 266 ) 

ftnrior^<:(o. • But if r>ir Operation of ihii Lsn Hioold cwaiB M Mte- 
"•"'«"'• morrow, wlist Nunibtr* may brctic tt, ukd laffiv If df 

C/^'V^W Breach of it ■ftvolunurily, Jbd withoac OcOgn i mi ka 
Ihill wc vindicnie ouiielvrE from b^ivtog beu 
Utc Crime which we ceofdre and puDiOi?' 

Mr. H. Fox. 

S t K, 

Mr. H. Fox. ' ' 'h^" "^^ 1"^' '" DrrcDce ofay Motioo mhu, U , 
rally Itnown and hat been frequently incalond lb I 
upon this Bill, chat pnraie Conridcntioni (Misht 
give Way to the Necrffitki of the PoblK; for t 
Ikieot lo obferrr, that there ti k DHtinfHon ca be 
iwcen PaDiftunent mod Rellniots, end thatwc neve 
too early in the Prevention of pcrniciou Fndioet. 
nay fometimesdehy to puniOubctn. 

■ The Law will be known to^momiw to fitr ikcgmB^ 
Number ot'thofc who may be tempted to dcffiki it» 
there be others that break it ignotjucly, how will tktf , 
themrdvct injured by being only obliged to pay Uk 
they promiled, which it all that 1 fhoold profiofe ' 
longer V/anung. The Debate upon tbi» partKuler i 
at length reduced to a Quellion, Whether a Law fcr| 
Parpotc i£ jufl and expedient r If a Law be amAtft 
neaflUry that ii fHould be executed, and ttou bti 
only by commencing lo momw.' 

Lord Baltimore. 

S 1 R, 
tori > It appears to me of so great JmpamBCV hew 

Baluuwre operation of the Law commcrcri, or bow loagit it • 
bccaufe I fiec no Reafon for imasiiuBg cbK it vtUii 
Time produce the Efieflipropofed oy it. 

• It hat been the Amidcmcni, !iit, of the ymi e ft 
ay Life, to conterfcwuh Men whorr ir-l-iriotii oe 
plo}-mcoM have made them well acv_ . ih 
Aifairt, and amidA iDOumerablc other :^<.[]rmci fvr thej 
BOtion of Trade, have heard time hr the Regotanvl 
Wages in trading Shipj.SchcBei at tlic ErS Aff 
bUraad Jikely to fiioceed, but upon a nearer 
dcatly entangled with iofupportab.c D.Scshiri, 
to be exccotcd wUbou: Danger efiojunng the Qc 
ibi NalitUi. 

* The OaiUir.Sir. now before ui contain! In ay ' 
one of ihofe viiionary l'ro-«Hiant, which ha»ci'cr fa 
they may appear, will be ratily decaicd. and will 
other ElTctl tJUaA to pronote Lunningand Fraad^aAd col 




(267) 

AQ^ ofC(A\\i(ioa wiih which thpy wogU other- Arno 14, Gc 
h*vc been ic^uaiotcd.* II j-40. 

. LockMod. ^^^' 

* I Agree with the Honocnble Gemieman by whom this j^^, Loct- 
iMbluibetn offi;r'<J, ihtt the End for which it is propo^'J. wooil, 

wonhy the clofcfl Aitcntion of the IcgjIUuve Po*<r, aod 
ai Ibe En):, of which the Prcvcoiioo tg Dowcndeavour'ii^* 
■]r f> fame Mcnfure 001 Ool/ obllrud ourTrs^r, but en- 
«gcr Our Councry ; >nd IhslI therefore very rcsdily coRCur 

M* I-.-., for [i„j purpofe, ihatfli^ll not appear either 
!^ ujI. 

• WBetrifr (nbCiufr will be fuflicient to reflrain all elu- 
vCaotn^i, and whether «II cbe little Artl=ices of iaicrett 

Knily obrtttet], I am y« unablr ro drterminc i but 
\ aion gpon ifac Multiplicity of Relations to be con- 

Lei oi. an J »iic Varictj' of Circumlhreet to be »dju(lcd,ia 
^rori&oa of thJi kind, I am inclfii'd to thir.k that 11 i- not' 
fBtfocft of a Iranfienl Encjuiry, or of a fingTe L'UliIc, 
ICtal k willdcmarjda frpame Law.and engsge the Deli. 
RtioaaBd Regard of tfail whole ASkmhly.' 

obn Baraird. 

I a, 

NownthfiandinE the Tmpailence anJ Refcntment with Sir j..hn 
foioc Men Icc their MiHake> and Ignorance deteQcd, ft*"itnl. 
lirtthftandiDg the Reverence which Nrgligcncc and Halle 
■'"tobrmtitlrd to from this Aftmbly, 1 mill declare once 
vnthoul the Apprehciifion of being conlu^d. ib.it this 
LI drawn up without Conlideraiion, and is defended 
bring andcrflood; ihii after all rbc Amcodmenti 
■fcave been admined, and aU the Addiiiora propoi'd, ii 
toppretliveand ineffcftual.a Chaos of Ablurditiei, and 
iBOMni of rgaorancc.* 

Ut iUbm W.lpo)e. 

Sia. 

The prefem Butlnets of ihi» AQVmbl^ ii to examine the Sir _R"*<Tt 
tok btfotr 115 i but lo deviate from to necejl-ify an En 
tf iato loud Exclamation) againll the whole Bill, is in 
mn& thcCoarre of the Debate, to ^rplraour Aitcmion, 
I utcrropc the pAilt^inent m t'i Deliberation opo*^ <^ef. 
lu, to the Deter iniRiition of which the Security of the J'ub- 
11 Dtaslr cooccro'd. 

The War, Sir, in whtcb we arc now eogageJ* ind, I 
f add; mpgcd by the general Rcqucll of the whole Na- 



WaJivIt, 



M n a 



(ion, 



IJ*«» 



( 268 ) 

14. Geo tion, cin be profecuted only by the AffiOmct ofOm^ m«, 
Fom whom it is not npcflcd th»t tbcj w>it lacribic ikcir 
inimcdiite Advanuge to the Sccufity of their tooniry. 
Public Spirit, where it is 10 be found, 11 the R«iiU.af |lt> ^ 
fltitrao, nda'd by Siudy and culiid by Educstioa. tail 
not to be hoped for among tbda whotn \ow t'oitun' 
coodrmncd to perpetual Drudgery. It uiuU be itici»i 
^ccclT^ry to fupp'y the Defcfl of I-'Jiication, ind to 
by falatary Coercions iho£c Lffe^ wliich u it in riu 
pefilrom o:her Catifcs. 

* That the Service of the Siilori will bi (rt up 10 &»^t I 
Ai:flrun, and ihfti the Mcicbaaii will bid agatnit ibc Govi 
ment is iiiconlrAib!e ; nor is there any DouU thit tt 
be able to rJKr the h:ghcit Price, broule iKcy will (■! 
10 repay ihetnfelve.< by railing (he \'i1ue of ibeir 
Tbiu. wiibout fotne Reilr;iint upon the MtrchJititt. o< 
mict .who are sot ilrbarrrd by their (ortu o( Govemxtif I 
wy Method which Po'icycan invent, or abiblutvPawrr 
in ExecutioD, will pre>ud< all our IXigna, uid kl «c 
fame a. N.it:DO fupcrior \o itttaftivti.* 

Sir John BaroArd. 

Si a. 

* I think myfeir obliged, by mv DutjF to mf Cmuuy.i 

by my {Jr^tiiodc to tho-c by wh»l< hidulliy wc »kz ■ 
>nJ by ifch<ilc Courage we aredefci'ded, to malu: li 
Dcclarvtion, no; agninfl p^n^cu^'ir C'aufci, im 
CircuiD'bDCci, buc ag.iinll the wbok fiiU ; i> 
o['pitjlive. alriurt] 2nd T'dkulouit* Etijl mhatri.} ; 
oui aniidiililfi thr [{'jneH.io puzalcihc Witcaoc 
to [hr Cruel ; 1 Bill, which CAnnoi be irjd withodi A^osji 
Dtcoi, cor piHVd wiiiioui the \iuUtion of our C< 
and an gt^\izi Dif'rpanl of Policy and Humanity. 

* .All tnn'e Atierti m wi<i need to be provol oaljr bf 
barf Petuiiil of chithiKf.l Bill, by wnicb ibc nctcft,: 
nini'. tv< iihlcfs Kcpnlc, exalted to a petty Office b^ fi 
a Wri-cch only (upciiur Co i.tra in Foit-^QC, is caabtcd tal 
hit Atq^ort-y by lyraoitirg over (bole who erer^ Ugsri 
ferve the pub'ic AcIcriOwIedgciMftti cf the Coaiinun-.ty, 
totruJe upon V.ie Relreati of brave Men.fitigucd kc4 cabi 
rd by hnselt Indj^rv. todrsg tbem out with all tkc Wl 
tuod* of erovFling Aorhority. xnd chain tLem to tbc '~ 
widKwtA Moment't Ucfpite, 01 perhapi oblige tfaea (0| 
cltife, wtih th« Gaini of a dangcroui Voyage, or ib« ~ 
Ctr uf an Enemy )itc!y corqiicr'd, t Qiorl IntCiVAJ 10 tcSdi 
Ibeir A&iri, or bid their Children farcwcU. 



John 



( 269 ) 

larGcBltcmart in thii Houre, let thofe. Sir, who Anno u.CeA 
St ti*ic, pTojcfiiiig Lawi of Oppreflioo and coofcifirig H-JLL' 
(•tir ownSUves l\ji;h lic-cntioiu Autharity, paufe a fe* \.-/TrN>-/ 
tt>, md imagine themfelTej rxpoled toihc lane l-fard- 
[» I'ower fopcrior 10 Uieir own ; let tbem conceive 
lorn from the I'endernefi'amJ LiiteRet of their 
mid night liTupiionf, drag^'d in Triumph thro* 
by ft deipicablc OScer, and placed under the 
ofthob by whom they hive pcrnapi been itrndf 
Wbr (houtd we imagine tltat the Race uf Men 
I liiefe Onelties an preparing, have Icfs Si:nftuilit)r 
|o«riclve»f Why (hoald we believe thit they wiit fuffer 
CatBpUiai. atkd be iojur'd without Kefcntment t 
wt conceive thit they will not at once deliver 
and panilh their OpprefTori, by derening that 
•.thity are confider'd at Feiong.and laying hold 
Rewirdi and PiivUrgea wkicJi so other Govcra- 
:witt deny them t 

ii inideed ihennly Ten<Jency, whntevrr m»y have 
tkc IntCBtioo. of the Bill before ai ; fur I know not 
^^moft rc&a^d Sagacity can difcovtr any ether Me* 
lifcoaraging Navigation than thofie which axe dr^wQ 
'iolbetjill before t». VVc firrt give our Conliab!n 
to hunt (he S^ilort like Thicvct. and drive them 
Parfuit out of the Nation : but, tell any Man 
^icndAiip, good Fortune, or the Power of Money, 
•f ftiying behind, wc have, with equal Wifdom. 
!){■ loPovcriy and Mifcry ; and, leilthe natural 
Fhi» Profeflum (hou^l incite ktm to aflill hit Countrjr 
rar, have cootrivcd a Method of precluding him 
Adrannge th>t might have the Weakaefi to hope 
iFortitade and Uttigence. What more can be dour. 
It once prohibit to Seamen the UIc of the com- 

nti, or doom them to a general Profcriplion. 
}aA. Sir, that Advantage fhould be proporiion'J to 
Ird by which it ti to be obuined. and ibercfore a 
bu aa faooeft Claim to an Advaoce of Wagei in Time 
1 h is oeceflary to excite F.xpeAicioB, and 10 fire 
by the ProfpeA of gicat AcquifitioDi : andbythii 
it ti that fuch NumUen arc diily allured to naval 
and thatOkif Prtvaiceri arc filled with Advcntureri. 
Wagci wh'cb War malcei neccfTiry, arc marc 
tftctacim 10 thofe whom Impatience of Poveay 
to change their Stitc of LiU, than the fecure 
iul Contmercei for the Danger ii ovetlook'd 
intent apoa the Profit. 

* War 



M)t Vofcttjr at Mict, uul face an lUnoy 
f))^ tif Rkoit pence J 

* Lei auy Mmi rrcoIMl the Idoj t\Mi arrSi- 
spofi iiCAring o^ a btll fW eiKCunciii^ 
kirst aud exlminc vlie:fac( Itc (imI aii> L. 
pciiients like tJivl« ? I luppolV, it •»» nrvi 
ihac Men lAcre to be cncotit^igcd by fubjoAti 
bar Penalties, or ihAtco nkeawiy:be iitun 
Vfii a Mctbod of iKoamMMiiis ii, noi* 
l'<op'e. 

* Sut it it rnx of tcry great Inipomnce (• 
HpOQ tiie Inipioprictyof thh GauJ>, tbhicb ll 
(ib><>ty of puitiDj lA Exocution. 'I'bM ilte 
try every Method ot eluding a Law (b prajnii 
iMcreft, may be cafijy urugiocd ; and « Mil 
Truic^I of Kvarioni will iiko*vr ikat ibt* 
eluded by a tbouUnd Artlficei. 1/ the kler 
llnitted from allowiog Meti their Waget 
Stim, iIkj- will iiuke Contfa£li for ib« V4 
(he Time may rcry nfily bt compiled t 
KcwBrd for Ei|>eiliiion crd Fidality; the* 
Sum by w^y cf Advanccj they may •Uow , 
cif the rrcnif, or nvny aXtr ^l0Bey br a 
tax the Piiceof acfCoJBiuodky. of wbtdi 
she U£b Biay vary tbcii Piofartionj, it t^i 
Cegrve of Igfiorancc. No Min un dctrri 
ut Corp, unlcfi be cm legulate the HarvcA, 
Nuutbtr of ibc Pet^le for ever tit a Stanil. 

* Du )cl ui fuppofc ibtfc Meihodi a* cf 

-MUtO- 



( 2?! ) 

n AAiOfli, awi of whom Candour may p«rhip« Anrvorj, t^co 
itiat ttacf Ate odI/ duel becaufe th«y a»: ftupid. ■'- 1740- 
; ezzk into n Precedent, the moll unjull and rigo> 
n ef oar PrciifccirDr!, of which ttwy tlicmlejvct d«- 
ictr Rfipcfltoecr, or canfe&d the [nefficacy, by oever 
in; let ui ratbcr coiicavour to gmti the Sjjlors by 
■■4 Hoderatioti. »nil recoscile ihem (o the Servtce 
'jvn by ml tincouragetneni ; for it is rmtionsl {« 
itec in Praportioo u Men arc difguAcd b/ lojunes, 
• «-H br won by KicvJocf*. 

.uf-c ttoncExpedttnt, Sir, which lUfervei to beirird, 

l«ti tr^i which at Ictfl more Sucoef» may he bopetj than 

_iiB Civcily, Hunger, lad Periecntton The Stiips that 

to be filial QUI Air Service, are thofe of tbc 6rft 

ic, ivhicb ic is nfual 10 bring back into ibc Pom in 

Let ui therefore promife 10 all Sumen that fluU 

ly engage in them, b«tid« ihe Reward already pro- 

Oilichirge from the Serrice ac the Bfw) of fix or 

iHBte. By thu they witi be releafcd froni iheir 

of SUrery, and be urtain, ni ihey are when 

1 Service of tbe MerchMUi of a Refpice from their 

Tbe Trade nf the Nation will be only ineer- 

Ifcr a Time, and may be carried on io tbc Winter 

I, awl br^e Sams will he bved by difinilEAg theSaa. 

I they canaot be employed. 

* By addimg 4hb to the other Methods of Encottrogeioent, 

og sfidc ali rigorooi and oppreiTive !>chem«s, ihe 

cafily be BHintd, our CouBtry pr-H«Oed, our 

rC'eliabli&Md. nod asr Eicmiet robdacdi bat to 

(br Btl! » it now UxDili, is to determine that Trade 

,EBdtlut no SitipfliaU^outof the River.* 

Mr. Pit. 

SlH. 

* li b common Cir tliofe to hive ibefrciteA Regard *o^ ^' 
o«Mn toirfcll who diTcover the feall fur that of othef*. 
tiierefOTe, defpeir q( rci;alling the Advorate* •{ 
(nm tlM ProfecutioDof their fivoufitt Meaturci by 
iiaof gfnter EAcacy (beu Ihole which ve finadett 

iftiid Jnftice. 
thing. Sir. ii moteerldrnC. than that fome Dejjree of 
jfl If ftbiiilefe^y itccefr'»y tn Men *ho h»*e »nf 
' iritiot o( X GiTvrnmun; liUe ftorai 
the Fidelity of tbrir Adhrrtnt* by 
Ke of VVtiJom, or Of Vittuei their F.oemie* 
be awed by their Honelly, or trrnfird by tl.cir 
'^Sn^Dg. Meieattkii Bribery mil sever ptti HfalBcienc 

Majority 



ikvagt Nationi, Tucb u Slaver}) hu not yet bof 

ranajr invFBtetl, fucb as csBoot be heinl wuhoitt It 
nor thoaghi of withoat Horror. 
• < It ii, Sir, perhaps, not unfortunite, ihlit onr 
prdieni hxibeeo tiied rather ndKuloiu ttua flui 
thu ihefe Tyrantt of the AdminiilndoB. who u 
fclveiwith opprefiing their Fellow Sobjefti* vbai 
RelufUncc one Hu^ihip to uiotber, lovadc ibt 
tbofe whom they have already ovcrbonM wkk '■ 
plunder and (hen Jmpriloo, who oke all OpMf 
heighwnirg the poblk DilUeflc*, and BUkt la* 
War the Intlrumenli of itew OppreiTioni, arc loo 
be fomitdable, and owe cheir Pniver not to ibcir A 
10 ca(ual Profperity, or to the Infloenccc^Moaci 

' The other Claufcs of thii Bill, complioued i( 
Cruelty and Fotty, have beea treated wkb bccoi 
lUilion ; but [hit nay be coaCdercd with tefi Arda 
fentment. and fewer Emotions of Zeal, becaufr. ttl 
hapi eqoally ititquiioui, U will do oo Ham » Ibri 
on never be executed can never be felt> 

' Thai It will canfune the ManafiiAon of 
SmU the Books of Stataces. i% all the Good or Hi 
be hoped or fcar'd from a Law like thui A I 
&XC9 what ii ia ks own Nature monble, whkb 
Rules to the Scafom and Lisiiti to the Wiad. 

* I an too well acquainted. Sir» wuh the Di 
ill two chief Supporters, to mcfltioa the CoiH 
which this Law will be ucated by Poikrity i Su 
already (hewn abundaotiy their D'tU^ffod o( 
GcMiaiKWi i bm 1 will icotad thctta ihu^fh 



( 273 ) 

itnteraA in View, will be »fraid rf aJhering to thofe Anno ij.Cec 
Jen, bowever old and praAifed in Expedient*, hoivcvcr -I- '74u. 
■Mheo'il by Corrcprion, or elated with Power, who have 0/'"\"N-^ 
rKtfin to hope f^i Succcft from tither their Viriuc or 

Mr. Bitlinrft. 
Si>. 
Tfce Qaufe now order our Corfi'crstion is fo ircor- ^'r Eathurft. 

if dnwn up, that it is iiiipoflib:c: lo rvn-J it in the 
tcnribry Minner, without difcoverirg the Ncccflity of 
Amlndirents i no malicious Subciicies or anf'ul 
lioBi ire required in raiting Objefliuns to this P.trt of 
iBin i ihey croud upon us without being fought, and inllead 
f^Rcifing our Sagacity, wear/ our Attention. 
' Tkc Srn Error, or rather one Fart cf a general and com- 
1 Error, it the Computation of Time not by Days but 
Monthi, which, as they sre not equni one to 
r, joMj eiobarrafs the Account between the Sailors and 
: employ them. In all ContraAs of a (hort Dun- 
ibe Time is to be reckoned by Weeks and Days, by 
SBd regular Periods, which has been fo coniuntly 
il^iAice of the Sea-faring-Men, that perhaps many of 
I AtBOt know the Meaning of aKaIend.4r Month : This 
*u B NegIcA ofno great Importance, becaufc no Man 
; deprived by it of more than the Wages due for ths 
of a few Days, but the other Part of this C^pufe ii 
' Jcrioufly to be confidet'J, as it thrratsns the Siilors 
great Injuriri. For it is to be enabled, [hat :ul Cor- 
loude for more Wages i\un are here allowed lluU be 
■Dt void. 

' Jl cannot be denied to be pcflible, and in my Opinion it 
^'iterj likely, that many Conrritfls wil U* tr.ar^c iMchoutthc 
Kiewlcdge of this Ltw, and confeq<jentIy M'itl Jut ;:ry Di-- 
fai of-vioUting it; but Ignorance, incvirablc hi;nor;tnc(-, 
M* it iia valid Excufe torcvery other M.-.n. is iim Pica lor 
Aenhappjr Sailor; hemuli fulFer, tho' i:ini riTt, t:'c Pi Tinlty 
rflCrime; muft undergo Dangi-r, Hnriiiliip:, rr! I...b..jr, 
ittoDta Recompence, anditc the End o.^a i.^'rt.-'. .n \'uy.i(;c, 
.Ifcr fcavisg enriched hii Country by his !i.,li.i.:rv. jv'Ljiri 
BlHCIo a nectllitaus Family wiiliout bctr.ij ublc fj relieve 

• It is fcarccly necefTary, Sir, to rr-if" ar.y mo'i: Obj,;t!on3 
• a CHaufe in which nothing is right; b.ic lo Hew li<>w iii 
laperfeQioDt multiply uptMi the ilightcll CuMi.;tr-i:ion. L 
tftt this Opportunity to obfcrve thiit thi-re h iin ''rovifion 
ude for rrguUciog the Voy.igf« nerfcimcJ iii kL 'i ji.icthan 
Vot YII. iN n a. 



( 274 ) 

Annoi4,Geo a Month, To that the grcateft Part of the Abares, which have 

II. 1740 been rcprelented as the Occafion of this Clanfe, are yet wiih- 

^»/YXfc^ out Remedy, and only thofe Sailors who venture far, and are 

cxpofed to the greatcll Diingers, are rcttraia'd from receiving 

an adequate Reward. 

< Thus much. Sir, I have faid upon theSuppolidon, that 
a Regulation of the Sailors Wages is either neceil^ry or 
juft ; aSuppofition of which I am very far from discovering 
the Truth. That it is juft to opprcfi the molt ufcful of our 
Fcllow-Subjeds, to load thofe Men with peculiar Hardfhipa 
to whom we owe the Plenty that we enjoy, the Power that 
yet remains in the Nation, and which neither the Folly nor 
the Cowardice of Minillers have yet been able to dellroy, 
and the Security in which we now fit and hold our Confulu- 
tions ; that it is jull to lelTen our Payments at a Time when 
we increafe the Labour of thofe who are hired, and toex- 
pofe Men to Danger without Recompence, will noteaHly be 
proved even by thofe who are mod accuftomed to Paradozei, 

' and are ready to undertake the Proof of any PoHtion which 
it is their Interell to find true. 

• Nor is it much more eafy to ihew the Necefiity of thii 
Expedient in our prefenl State, in which it appears from 
the Titleofcbe Bill, that our chief Endeavour fliould be ibc 
Increafe and Encouragement of Sailon, and.l fuppofe, it hai 
not often been difcover'd, that by taking away the Profits of 
a ProlelTton, greater Numbers have been allured to it. 

< The high Wages, Sir, paid by Merchants are the chief 
Incitements that prevail upon the Ambitious, the Neceffitoos, 
or the Avaritious, to forfake the Eafe and Security of the 
Land, to leave eal'y Trades and healthful Employments, ud 
expofe themfetves to an Element where they are not certain 
cfan Hour's Safety. The Service of the Merchants is the Niir. 
fery in which Seamen are trained up for hii Majelly's NaTiei, 
and from thence we muft, in Time of Danger, expeCl tbolil 
Forces by which alone we can be proteAed. 

* If, therefore, it is neceftary to encourage Sailors, it ii 
neceffary to rcjrdt all Meafures that may terrify^ or difgoft 
them ; and, as their Numbers mufl depend upon our Trade, 
let us not emitarrafs the Merchants with any other Difficulties 
than thofe which are in(eparab!e from War, and which very 
little Care ha:i been hitherto uken to alleviate.* 

Mr. M.iy. 

Sj R. 

Mr H.y ' Ihe Objeftions which have been urged with to much 

Aiwour, and dilplay'd with fuch Power of Eloquence, are 
not, in my Opinion, formid<ible esough to dilcourage us 

frotn 



I (^75) 

W, in piiofanitipg oar Meafores ; fome of tbem may be pei- Anno 14. Ge 

F' kp rewlily aniwcred, and the reft eafily removed. , ''- '7^- 

* TiwCompatittoo of Time, as itDow (lands, is atlow'd l/'V^ 
Mt to jmdMeanjr formidable Evil, and therefore did not 
iffHR^ rhetorical a Cenfure; thelnconveniency ofKaten- 
dvUonthi may eafily be removed by a little Cindour in the 
tmtn&ing Fardes, or that the Objedion may not be re- 
amed to the iDtemiptioD of the Debate, Weeks or Bays 

mtf 1m fabftitntei], isd the ufual reckoning of the Sailors be 
Ain oouiDQed. 

That fone CoatraCli may be annotled, and Inconveni. 
cades or Delays of Payment arife, is too evident to be 
qoeftioBcd 1 but id that Cafe the Sailor may have his Re- 
medy provided, and be enabled to obtain, by an aCy Pro- 
Btfa» what he (ball be judg'd to have deferved ; for it muft 
be ^ew'd rea'fonable, that every Man who labours in honeft 
and ofefil Employments, (hould receive the Reward of his 
DSiffencc and Fidelity. 

• Tbos, Sir, may the Claufe, however loudly cenfured 
Uai nolently oppofed, be made ufeful and equitable, and 
ttepoblk Service advanced without Injury to Individuali.' 

Sir Robert Walpole. 
Si a, 

■ Every Law which extends its Influence to great Num- Sir Robert 
ben. in varioDi Relations and Circumftances, muft produce ^'^1'°''- 
Ambc Con(iequencei that were never forefeen or intended, and 
ii to beceofared or applauded as the general Advantages or 
JncoBTeniencies are found to preponderate. Of this kind is- 
lAte Law before us,' a Law enforced by the Necellity of our 
Al&irs, and drawn up with no other Intention than lofecure 
the pablic Happinefs, and produce that Succefs which every 
Msn'i Intcreft muft prompt him todefire. 

• Iff in the Execution of this Law, Sir, fome Inconve- 
BicBciei Diould arife, they are to be remedied as faft as they 
are difcovercd, or if not capable of a Remedy, to be pa- 
ticatly borne in Confideration of the general Advanuge. 

' That fome temporary Difturbances may be produced is 
fioc improbable; the Difcontent of the Sailors may for a 
fliort Time rife high, and our Trade be fufpended by tbcir 
CXtftinacy ; but O^inacv, however determined, muft yield to 
Hanger, and when no higher Wages can be obtained, they 
will chearfilly accept of thofe which are here allowed them. 
Short Voyages indeed are not comprehended in the Claufe, 
and therefore the Sailors will engage in them upon their 
owB Terms ; tnit this Objeflion can be of no weight with 

Nn 2 thofe 



( 276 ) 

.inoii,Oee thofe that oppofc the Claule, beaafe, if it is unjuft to linit 
U. 74'>- [he VVages of the Sailors, it ii joft 10 leave ihoi'e Voyigcl 
/"V^^ without RetlriAion ; and thofe that think the Elpid-nt 

iiere propofcd equitiible and rationil, may perhaps be wiW ^ 
ling to tnuke fotne ConcclEoDS t« thofe who arc of a diffe- 
rent Opinion. 

• That the Bill will not remove every Obftacle to Soc- 
c^!j nor add Weight to one Part of the Balance wiihoDt 
making the other lighter ; that it will not fuppty the Mary 
without incommoding the Merchants in fome degree ; thai 
it may be fometimei evaded by Cunning, and (ometinKt 
abuled by Malice ; and that at laft it will be lcf» cflicacioni 
th:iti is delircd, may perhaps be proved; but it has not yet 
been proved that any other Mcafures aic nioie cligibiC, or 
that wc Ti (' not to promote the public Service ns &r a» we 
arti able, i^ioiigh our Endeavoura may not produce E0ecLi 
equal to our Wilhes.' 

Sir John Barnard. 
Sir, 
r John * ' know not by what Fatality it is that nothing can be 

iri.aid. urged in Defence of the Claulic before us which dbei not 

tend to difcover its Weaknefs and Inefficacy. Tht uarmcft 
pjtroiH of this Expedient arc impelled by the tnere Fcrcc 
of Conviclion to fuch Conccflions as invalidate all their Ar 
guments, and leave their Opponents lo Ncccfnty cf re- 
plying. 

* If Ihort Voyages are not coT>prehended in thi« Prcvifioa 
what are we now controverting f what but the KxpcJiercc 
of a Law that will never be executed f 1'heSai:ors. Lowever 
they are contemned by thofe who think them only uorthr 
to be treated like Healb of UurtiiCn, are not yet fo liurld 
but tliac they c.in nfi.y find out, thut to fer\'e a Ki>r;r.igh: fur 
greater U'nges is more Ciigible iLnn to toil a Month for :cf: ; 
and as the numerous Equipments that have Lecn lately made 
^.ave not left many- more Sailers in the Sen ice tit iht \>r- 

• chiints tl-an may be tmplcy'd in the Coafling Tradv, itvit 

who tr::n:c to remoter Parts muLt fliut up their Bcol:'. ai i 
wait tiii liie Expiration cf ihia Acl for an Oppottusily cf 
icr.eui[ (> their Commerce. 

* To rcg-jlatc the VVages for one \'oyag^, and lo leave 
Bnoihcr without Limiutiuri, in time of Scarcity of Strameo, it 
ablclu'.ely lo prohibit that Tradt; which is forcflrAined, attd 
ii doubt^efs a more effcfiual hnibdrgo than has been ycc ia- 
vcn;td. 

• Let nny Man but fuppofe tli.it the Eall-India Compani 
were obliged to give only half the V^'age* that othei Tradcra 

allow. 



( 277 ) 

knr, ftwl conlicter how that part of our Commerce could Anno 14, Geo. 
E carried on i would not their Goodi rot in their Ware- 'I- ■740- 
Dsfei, and their Ships lie for ever io the Harbour f Would l./'^V^^ 
K iW Sailori refufe to contrafl with them ? or defert thetn 
fersConirafl, upon the firfl Prcfpeft of more advantage- 
Hi Enploynieiit ? 

•* Bttit ii Dot requifite to multiply Arguments in 1 Q^ier- 
■■wkkh may not only be decided without long Examina- 
iia, bac in which we may determine our Condufions by 
• Espcrieace of our Anceftors. Scarcely any right or 
■DBg MnlurM are without a Precedent, and often di£. 
■rar what the moft enlightned Reafon f^ik-d to forcfce. 

* Let OS ihereftire improve the Errors of our Anceltors to 
W OWD Advantage, and whiltl wc ncg!e£l to ifnitace th«ii- 
imws, let u»at katt forbear to repeat their FoHiei.' 

Mr. Aldermaa Perry. 

Si». 

4 Thae is one Obje£lion more which my Acquainsaticc 
bh filKigo Tndc imprelTu too tirongly upon m^- Mind to Mr. Pcrr:. 
mc Bo conceal it. 
It ia well known that the Condition of a Seaman fub- 
htn to (he Neceffity of fpending a great pin of his Life 
. DiAascc fi-om his native Country, in Places where he 
Btitlwr hear of our Duligns,nar he inllruded in our Laws, 
! thcfcfere it ii evident that no Lnw ought to »Sie&. him 
certain Period of I'ime, in which he may reafo- 
bc fappofed to have been informed of it. For every 
oaght to hdve it iti bit Power to avoid Punifhment, and 
~er oaly for Negligence and Obilinacy. '^ 

Ic ii ijuitt unoeciiEiry, Sir, to cbfervetothis A0embly, 
^ihcn: artnoij^ uat all times, great Numbers ofS-iilors 
r part of tbe World, and that they at kail equally 
dhr Regard with thofe who are under the more im- 
InfliKLce of (he Government. 

Seaman have already ccntraAcd for the Price of 
' Laboar, and the Recompence of their Hazirdi. nor 
io my Opinion, without manifeA Irjuiticc, diflb!ve 
founded upon Equity, and con6rmed by Law. 
^Xc Ui Sir, an umlifputed Principle of Government, that 
Aoald be punifhed without a Crime ; but is it 
liihmcat to deprive a Man of what is due to him by a 
SciiMilation, the Condition of which is on his Pan 
IJ7 farfilled ? 

(achine. Sir, can be imagined more cilamitous than 
■lappoiDUncu to which this Law fubje£\i the unhippy 

Men 



t- 



( 278 ) 

Anno i4,G«o Men who are now promoting tbc iDttreft of their Co 
IX ■749- in diftani Placet, amidft Dangeriind Har(I3u|it, ta atkl 

y,yy\^ CHmatn and barbarous Nationi, where thejrconfbrti 
fclres under tbc Fatigoct of Labour and the Mifer 
Sickneft, with the Frofpefi of the Sam whkh tiiey flnl 
for the Relief of their Families, and the RcTpia 
their Wages will enable them to enjof j bat apoa thi 
turn they find their Hopes blafted, *ad their CoatnJ 
folved by a Law made in their Ablence. 

' No human Being, I think, can coollf and dclib 
infliA a Hardlhip like this, and therefore J doabt ■ 
thofe who have by Inadrerteiicy gitren room fiir thii 
lion, will either remove it by an Amendment, or whi 
my Opinion, more eligible, njcSt the Claufe ai iocip 
ufetefs, and unjnft/ 

Sir William Yonge. 
S I a. 
Sir William * "^^^ Debate has been protraOed, not by any Dii 
yongc. arifing from the Nature of the (^eUions which bM 
the Subjefl of it, but by a NegleA with whkh ataet 
Opponcnu of the Billmay Ik juflly chargied, tlw} 
of dillinguilbing betweeo Meaforei eligible in An 
and MeafuTCs prefierable to Conrequencea which ait 
bended from particular Conjnnfiurei i bciwecn Um 
only to advance the public Happiocfs, and Expadi 
which the Benefit ii merely occafiooal, aod of wfc 
fole Intention is to avert fome national Calamity, ui 
are to ceafe with the Necefiity that prodoced Ibea. 

' Such are the Meafurei, Sir, wWh are bow M 
Mealures, which in Days of Eafe. Security, mod PnI 
it would be the highetl Degree of WegkneG tof 
butpf which I cannot fee the Abfurdity in Tiatcii 
ger and Diflref*. Such Laws are the Mcdiciresof I 
ufelefs and naufeous in Health, but preferable lo afi 
Difeafe, or to a miferabie Death. 

* F.ven thofe Mcafures, Sir. which have been ■■ 
fts liioft grofly abfurd, and reprefentcd as panllel mi 
Vifion made in this Claufe, only to ezpofa it to CoMI 
Ridicule, may in particular Circnmftancea bo nuB 
juft. To fettle the Price of Corn in thcTinsr of ■! 
may become the wtfeft State, and Midtitudei ai|^) 
of public Milery, by the Benefit of temporarr U 
prefcrvtd frcm DeflruAioD. Even thofe MaJh, m 
with a profperous Gale, the Ship owes iu UfeMMi 
Speed, are often cut down by the Sai!on ai the fi 
Storm. 



( 479 ) 
With ttord to the Shipt which are now in didant Flacei^nnoi^^Gco: 
icr no jCoQwIedge of this Law can poffibty be con- 11. 1740. 
WHftit it cannot be denied that their Crews ought to be fe- L/V^'^^ 
iipri irom Injury by fome particular Exception ; for tbo' it 
||tri4n>C in Compeiitions becween public and private Inte- 
pl, which ought to be preferred, yet wc ought to remember 
if no onncoefliiry Injsry is to be done to Individuals, even 
■bikvc are providing for the Safety of the Nation/ 

' Ifr. Finkerle^. 

'• 81 n. 

• • Tho' I cannot be fuppofed to have much Acquaintance ^- P'^^"* 

UA anvnl Affairs, and therefore may not perhaps difcover ^^' 

LfnD Force of the Arguinenti that have been urged in 
Bf of the Claufe now under Confideration, yet I cannoc 
1^ Aink myfelf under an indifpenfable Obligation to exa- 
Bfac il ai fiu as I am able, and to make ufe of the Know- 
wUch I have acquired* however inferior to that of 

Tte Argament, Sir. the only real Argument, which has 
in CiVour of the Rellraint of Wages now 
1, appeanto me by no means conclufive; nor can I 
' that the meanclt and molt ignorant Seaman would, 
prapdfed to faim, hefitate a \4oment for an Anfwer 
l^t me fnppofe. Sir, a Merchant urging it as a L'har^ 
a Seaman, that he raifes hi» Demand of Wages in 
if War, would not the Sailor readily reply, that har< 
'Ldionr required larger Payf Would he not alk, why 
Igfacnl Praaiceof Mankind is charged as a Crime upon 
tmlyi Enquire, fays he, of the Workmen in the 
have they not double Wages for double Labour I 
not their Lot &fe and eafy in Compariton with mine, 
OBCe eiurounter Danger and fupport Fatigue; carry 
fu and Commerce at the fame time, to condud the Ship 
\0fipaSt the Enemy, and am equally cxpofed to Captivity 
~ Supwrcck I 
^ Thai this is in reality the State of a Sailor in Time of 
, I tlunk. Sir, 100 evident to require Proof i nor do I fee 
Reply can be made to the Sailor^s artlefs Expoftulation. 
I kaow not why the S.iiiors alone Qiould lerve their 
to their DiGdvantage, and be expeAed to encounter 
wilhont the Incitement of a Reward. 
for will any Part of the Hirdlbips of this Claufe be 
by the Expcdteoi fuggefted by an Honourable 
fa who fpoke fome time ago of granting, or alloiving. 
Sailor, whole ContraAfhall be void, what our Courts of 
f flioald adjudgehim todeferve,a ^antum meruit. For, 

accord- 



( 2S0 ) 

Anno 14, Geo. according to the general Interpretation <^oarStitn 
'3^^ wiil be determined that he has forfeited hit whole Cb 

'^-^^"^'"^ illegal Contraft. To inftanre. Sir, the Sututc of I 
He that ftipulates for higher Intereft than is illowcd, 
ibk to recover his legal Demand, butirrecorerabiy ' 
the whole. 

* Thus, Sir, an unhappy Sailor, who (hall ibb* 
tranfgrefa thti Law, tauA lofe all the Profit! of hit V 
and have nothing to relieve him after his Fatignea i bi 
he has by his Courage repelled the Enemy, and by h 
efcaped Storms and Koclcs, mull fuAr yet fercrer Ha 
in being fubjcrfl to a Forfeiture where be expeded A] 
Comfort, and Reoimpencc.* 

Mr. Ryder, (Attorney General.) 
Sir, 
Mr. Ryder. ' '^^^ Claufe before us jannct, in my Opintoa, ; 

any (uch dreadfiil Confequcnces at the learned Gci 
appears to imagine: However, to remove all D'Sa 
have dr^wn up an Amendment, which I (ball bee I 
propofe, I'bat the ContraAsi wbici) may be afleoe 
Claulenow Hand;, fiatl b$ tttii onif mt to Jo mmAtf i 
ge$ oi pall exceed the Sum to 'wbitb tht Hmift JhmB 
reduce the Seaman's Pay ', and as to the ForfeiiaTCf. I 
n^ to iie levied lipon the Sailors, but apon the Mci 
or trading Companies, who employ them, and wIki i 
to pay greater Sums without being involved in Pun 
Dillrels. 

* With regard. Sir. to the Reafons for introdnct 
Claufe, they are, in my Judgment, valid and cqcitabh 
have found it .nccelT-ry to lix the Rate of Money at J 
and the Rate tf labour in feveral Cafes; and if wc 
in this Cafe, what ivill be the Confequence i A feco 
bargo on Commerce, and perhaps a total Stop to all 1 
Preparation?. Is it reafonable that any Mao ihould 
Liibour according to the immediate Neceffitin of lb 
emp'oy him ? Or that he Oiould raife bis own For 
the public Calamities ? If this has hitherto been a I 
it is a Practice contrary to the general Happiocfs of i 
and ought to prevail no longer. 

* If the Sailor, Sir, is expofed to grea t e r Du 
Time of War, is not the Merchant's Trade carried i 
wife at greater Hzzard ? Is not the Freight, equally \ 
Sailors, threarened at once by the Ocean and the I 
And is not the Owoet'i Fonune equally impaind. 
(he Ship is daflicd upon a Rock, or leized by a Prm 



( 28l ) 

* The Merchants, therefore, have as much Resfon forpiy- Anno 14, Geo. 
log Icfs Wages in Time of War, as the Sailor frr demanrfing ^^- '74=- 
■o«. and nothing remains but that the Lc£ifl.icive Power L/''V"NJ 
dtterjninc a Medium between their diffl-rent in ereAs, with 
/sllice, if poOible, ai lealt with Impartiality.* 

Mr. Horatio Walpolc. 
St I, 

■ I was unwilling to interrupt the CoLrTc of" this Dcbite w. H<iraHi> 
whi'e it was carried on with Caimnefs and Decency, by Men Waiptle. 
who do noi fufTer the Ardour of Oj.'p- frion to cloud iheir Rea- 

fin. Or trantport them 10 Jiich Exprcffioni cs the Dignity of 
this Aflembly docs not !"'«iit. 1 have hitheno dcfcrr'd to 
aDr<*cr the Gentleman wl:u Jccla!i:icJ agiinll the Bill with 
fiich Fluency ard Rheioric. :ind (u'-h Vehemence of Gefturr, 
who chargrd the Advocarc!. for the Experiierits now prcpo- 
ied. with having no Regard i<.i nny IncercU but their own, 
wad with making Laws only (o cnnfume Priper, and thrra- 
Kneit them with the Dcfeflron ot their A'lhercn:s, and the 
Lofi of their Influence, upon this new Diicovery of thcic 
Folly, and their Igrorancc. 

■ Nor, Sir, do I now anfwer him for any other Purpofe 
than to remind him how iittleihe Clamour of Rajjp, and Pe- 
lularcy of Inveflivcs, co'.tribute to the Purpofe lor which this 
Aficmbljr ia called tog;:hcr ; how little the Dipjovery cf 
Trath is promott-d, ^nd che Security cf the Nation tlia.- 
bliOied by pompous niillon, and tii'-atrical Emotion. 

• Fprmidj.b'cSour:ds, ard f-r'nas Declamations, cot fitJene 
Aflertionf, ard lofty Peril's. r:i::y aS\:£i the young and un- 
experienced, and perhap' the Gcnclciran may lave contrrfl- 
cd his Habits of Oratoiy by cor-verfing more wiih thofe ct 
bit own A^f, thsn wi;h fuch as h: vc h:id more Opportunities 
of acq'.tii!"i; Knowledge, and more fucctfsful .VKthods cf 
Gommi^ncatine^ :h-.'ir Sentiments. 

If the He.: cf hi* Temper, Sir, would fuller him to at- 
rrrd to thofc whofe Age and long Acqiiiintanci: with Dufinefi 
give them an indifputable Right to Deference ard Superio- 
rity, he would learn, in Time, to rciion r:,thcr tli-'n declaim, 
an-l to prefer Jurtnefs cf Argument, and ::n accurate Know- 
ledge of Fafls. toimmding Tpithcts .it:d [picndid Superlatives, 
«>hich m:>yditturbthe Imagin.t.oo for a Moment, but leave 
DO laflipg Imprcflion on the Mind. 

* He will le;rn. Sir, that to accufe and prove are very 
different, and that R-"rcache:, unfupported by lividence, af- 
f A only the Ch ruiiler of him that nrtcrs them. Excur- 
fions of Fancy, and fligb's of Orircy, are indeed par- 
dontble in young Men, but id nn other i and it uoutd furely 

VtL VII. O contribute 



C 282 ) 

Lnno 1. 1, Geo. contribute more, even to the Purpofe for which fome Gen- 
I^JTj^ tlemcn appear to fpeak, that of depreciating the Conduct of 

^"^^^^^^^ the Adminiftration, to prove the Inconvcnienciei and In- 
juftice of this Bill, than barely to afiert them, with whatever 
Magnificence of Language, or Appearance of Zeal, Honelly, 
or CompafiioD.' 

Mr. Pitt. 

S I R, 

■-. Pitt. » The atrocious Crime of being a young Man, which iha 

Honourable Gentleman has with fuch Spirit and Decency 
charged upon me, I (hall neither attempt to palliate, nordcny, 
but content myfelf withwilhiDg that I may be one of thole 
whofe Follies may ce;ile with their Youth, and not of thai 
Number who are ignorant in fpite of Experience. 

* Whether Youth can be imputed to any Man as a Re- 
proach, I will not. Sir, afTume the Province of determining t 
but furely Age may become juftly contemptible, if the Op- 
portunities which it brings have palt away without Improve- 
ment, and Vice appears to prevail when the Paflions have 

. fubfided. The Wretch that, after having feen the Confe- 
fjuences ofaThouland Errors, continues Itill to blunder, and 
whofe Age has only added Obllinacy to Stupidity, is furely 
the Objed of either Abhorrence or Contempt, and deferves 
not that his grey Head fhould fecure him from lofults. 

' Much more. Sir, is be to be abhorr'd, who, as he hat 
advanced in Age, has receded from Virtue, and becomet 
more wicked with lefs Temptation; who prolUcuirs himfclf 
for Money which he cannot enjoy, and fpends the Remaina 
of his Li^ in the Ruin of his Country. 

* fiat Youth, Sir, is not my only Crime; [ have becnac- 
cufed of acting a theatrical Part — A theatrical Part may ci- 
ther imply fome Peculiarities of Gellur^, or a Difllmulation 
of my real Sentiments, and an Adoption of the Opioiooiaad 
Language of another Man. 

' In the firll Senfe, 5ir» the Charge is too trifling to be 
confuted, and deferves only to be mentioned, that it may be 
defpifed. 1 am at Liberty, like every other Man, to ufe my 
own Language; and though [may perhaps have fome Am- 
bition to plcafe this Gentlemnn, I fhiitl not lay myfelf under 
any Rellraint, nor very follicitoully copy his Didion, or his 
Mien, however matured by Age, or modelled by Experience. 

< If any Man Ihall, by charging me with theatrical Beha- 
viour, imply, that I utter any Sentiments but my own, I flltl^ 
treat blmaiiaCn'uniiiiator,3nd a Villain; nor (hall any Pro- 
tc<^lori iheher ihih from the Treatment which he dcfervef. 
I- ihall, on fuch an CXcufloUj without Scruple, tfunple span 



II .7- 



hlr. Winnid 
ton.. 



(283 3 

iflikole Forms wirb which Wealth aril Dtgnity intrench Arirvot4,G( 
" , ror ftiall iny Thing but Age iffirain my Refrni- 

r ■, which always brings one Privilege, that of be- 

•c'l ' i_.ci.iand fupcrciliout wiclioul Puailhinent. 

■ Hu*. with Rcgitd, Sir, to rhafc uliotn 1 liave oSendtd, I 
j-y r* Opinion, thai if I bsj aticd a horrouH Part, I lhou)d 
-:vc -n-o-dcd their Ccnrute; the Heat that fffcndcd them ii 
tJ»e i\rdour of C<iDiriQion, and that Zcalfot the Service of 
mr Cec=iry, which neither Hope nor Fear dial! inftucnceme 
1 will not fit unconcerned while my Liberty is 
■■ r (ook in Silence upofi public Robbery —I will 
out n>y Eodcavoufl, at whiievcr Haztrd, to repel the Ag- 
nuJIar, mnd drag the Thief to Juilice, whoever may proti^ 
5rb ia their ViUany, and whoever may partake of their 
FlMdw. -—And if the Honourable Gentleman-—— 

tir. WjBiitngton citl'd to Oiilcr, nod Mr. PJtt Crting domi, 
he proceeded thtu. 
S I >, 

* II u itccelTary, l>tat the Order of ihi* Aflembly be 
drfrrvcd.and ihc Debate refumed without perfonal Alterca- 
Mttf. Such Etpreifiont as have been vented on this Occa- 
i«B, become i>oi an Houfe eniruttrd with the Liberty and 
Wdbfc of their Country- To in terra pt the Debate 00 t, 
StbjeA ''I Important as lltai before ut, ii, ta fooie meafure, to 
Vfatnifi the ntiblic Happinrfi, and violate our TrtiH : But 
VOCti more hemoui it the Crime ofczpofing cur Determi- 
MCiotil 10 Contempt, and Inciting the People to Sufptcloo or 
MaUBy, l>y tndeceiil Refleflions. or unjuft torinujtioni. 

* I do not. Sir, undertike to decide the Cofitroverfy be- 
trcni the two Gentlemen, but mufl be allowed to obferve, 
tfcatnoDtrctllty of Opinion van julltfy the Violation of De- 
cency, and the L'le cf rude and virulent KKprrfTiont; Ex- 
preAioni dilated oufy by Kefenimcnt, and uttered without 
Jltgird to ■ 

Here Mr. Pitt called to Order, ttid fcid, 

61 K, 

* If th» be to prelffve Order, there \% no Dingrr of In- Mr- Pitn 

4Ktncy from the moll liccotiout Tongue i fbrwh^t Calumny 
cw be more airocioui, or what Reproach more fevere, than 
thw of *pr»bing with Regard co any thing bat Truth Or- 
der nay fomenme* be broken by J*aflion, or Inadvertency. 
tmt wtil hardly be re-elUblilli'd by Monitort like thin who 
cinaot icnvern b»« own Paffion, whilR he is rcllraining the 
impctuolitjoroiheri. 

O o 3 • HiFpy« 



( 284 ) 

Aiinoi4|Geo. * H^ppy, Sir, ivou'd it be for Mankind, if crcry one Uw4 
11.1743- ],|s own Province; we S-ouId not then fee the lame Min it 
ly^^N^ once a Criminal and a Judge ; nor would this Geodeouik 
80*111116 the Right of difUting to pihcrs yehu he bu t» 
learned himfeir. 

* That I may return in fome Dcgre.e the Favour which he 
intends tne, I will advife him never hereafter to exert him- 
fcrlf on the 3,ibjed of Ofdi-r ; but wliepever he finds himCtU 
inclined to T^'cak on furii O;:carions, to remember how be liu 
now fuccceded, and condemn in Silence wiiat bis Ccalurq 
Vill ncvi.- pcrrorm. 

Mr. Winiiington. 

Si a, 
< Ail was faiodered by the Gentleman's Ardour and In- 
Mr. Winning- pemoiity from concluding my Sentence, none but myleif cm 
know the Equity or Partiality of my Intentioni, and there- 
fore, as I cannot juilly be condcmn'd, 1 ouf^ht to be fuppofed 
innocent : nor ought he to cenfure a Fault uf which be &inn;:: 
be certain tliatit would ever have been committed. 

* He has indeed exalted himfclf toa Degree of Aurhority 
neveryecnir:med by any Member of this IJoufe, that ol con- 
demning others to Silence. I 3m henceforward, by bit in- 
violable Decree, to fit and hear his Harangues wi(liout dol- 
ing to rppole him. How wide he may extend bis Autbotny, 
or whom he will proceed to include in the f^me Seiit<:rce,'t 
llial] hoc determine i having not yet arrived at the fame De- 
gree of Sjgscity wiih himfclf, riot being ab:e to fjrt^ni.* 
what aniichcr ij going to pronounce. 

* If I had given OiFencc by any improper Sallie* of F-l- 
fion, I ought tQ have been ccnfureJ by ihe concurrent \c tv 
of the Houfe, or have rccrivid a Krpriniand, Sir. ftcm \c--, 
to whom I fliouid have lubinittrd withi'ul Oppcficion ; but i 
will no: lie dcomci: to Silence by cnc who has no Prtteufioi.. 
to Au:horiiy, and whofe srbiirary I)ecifJ■^^s can only tend :« 
intiod-cc VfTnar, Difcordand Contuf:on.' 

Mr. Henry Pelham. 
3 t n, 
Mr. Pelhani. * "V^'htn, in tl.e Ardour o( Controverfy upon ir.tcreBir( 
QueHi.'in:, ciic Y^il of the Diipui^nts hinders them fioo a 
rice O-'KTViiiion cf Decency iinJ Regulartiy, there ii feme 
Jniu!i:i:.i:i: ilue 10 the common We^knefs of our Nature i 
cor cLi^;ht any Geni!em:into aii>.x toa nrgHgeni Exptefliou 
a mor^ (.fTerfive S^nfc than is necclTiHly implied by it. 

* To fcarch Jeep, Sir, fcr Calumniesand Reproaches ii m 
iau>!«blk: nor beneficial Cuiicfity ; it mull alvnys be irgabic- 

fcnw 



C 285 ) . 

wrftlvei, by alarming us with imaginary lojuries; Annoi4,Geo. 

iftea be unjufl to others, by charging them with In- H- 174°- 

v)ticbtt><y never in:ended. General Candour and ^^/V""^^ 

tcdersefs will bcft preferve our owh Quiet, and fup- 

Dignity which has always been accounted eflential 

,1 DebiCeB^and leldom infringed without dangerous 

■CM.* 

rttleton, 

'» 

^{3^ can ty more zealous for Decency than myfelf, A(r. Lyttleton 

ORviRced of the NeceJBty of a methodical Prolecu- 

e C^ejlion betore us. 1 am well convinced bow 

:ency and Faflionare to oneano.her,aad how ine< 

lonfulioD produces Obfcuriiy; but I hope it will 

■ remeaibered, that he who firlf infringei Decency, 

I f;om Method, is to anfwcr for at] the Confe- 

^i may arife from the neglcd of Parliamentary 

For K is not be expcAcd ih;it any Man will bear 
es wjtbout Reply, or that he who wanders from 
lioBwiil not be followed in his DigreiEons, and 
roogb his Labyrinths. 

aoc, Sir, be denied, that fome Ir.fmjationi were at- 
oriousio thole whofe Zeal may ip.netimes happen 

ibem p3 warm Declarations, or to incite them to 

Emotions. Whether I am of Jn>poriaDceenougb 
tied ip the Cenfure, I defpife it too much to enquire 
r, bot cannot forbear to obfcrve, that Zeal for the 

never become reproachful, and that no Man can 
kwterapt but thofe who dcferve it.' 

[The Claufe was amended and agreed to.J 

i t 1'hat all the Members of this Houfc, who ara 
tia the Town, do attend the Service of tbe Houffl 
ay Morning next. 

iJi.'The Houfe proceeded to take into Coniidera- 
Dpy of a Charter of the Turkey Company, and the 
icr Papers relating to the faid Company ; and feve- 
-.C9 were alfo read. Ordered, that a Bill be brought 
Jarging and regulating the Trade to the Levant 

h. Received 1 Petition of the Mayor and Common- 
e City of York, complaining of the Decay of the 
fuit£ifiure ; end reprefenting to the Houfe, That 
lAligc all Owners and Manufiiflurers of Wool, to 
le fiiiDe. ID the Parifhes in which they refide, by 
idepOMlejit, and under no Influence, chargeable 



( 286 ) 

Anno 14, Geo. with a cemin Sum to be paid only by thoie wba export 
If;i740' without being compleatly mannfaAurcd, fecmi M ikc I 
^/t'\«' titioners to be a moU effeftual Remedy to ibis grm Efi 
and therefore praying Relief, Sec. 

Agreed to the Report of the Bill for rupplyiog foncl 

fc£ls in the Lawi for repairing County' Bridge*, imI ■ 

viding Houfes of Correftion : Ordered it to &e eagnSA. 

Agreed to the Report of Yellerday'i Refolation* oi I 

Supp'y, viz. Refotved, That io;,275l. i8i. 8d. bena 

for the Charge of Tranfports hired to carry Forces n Ai 

rica : That iz^, 1:641. 83. be granted for tbc EzpeM 

ViAuali, provided for the Soldiers employed ia ibe Efpl 

tioDi to America. 

FartTierVro- fhe 1 3th, being appointed for the Report from the 

thc'&eiDwn's mittee on the Bill ff>r the Increafe and EacoaragcmeM 

|tm, Saiiort, Sir John Barnard prelentrd a Petitioa froB 

Merchants of London* and fpoke as follows. 

S I R, 

filraS" ' '^^" Petition T am direded to lay before tbis Herf 

many of the principal Merchants of that great City m)k 
have the Honour toreprefent ; Men too wife tobeimj 
wi:ti imaginary Danger;, and -too honeft to codovotf 
(^bltruftions of any Meafures that may probably advaM 
public Good, merely becaufe they do not concur witkt 
private Interell i Men, whofe Knowledge and Capscil*) 
ble them to judge rightly, and wtiofe acknowledged I 
griiy and Spirit let them above the Sufpicion of coMB 
their Sentimentt. 

■ I therefore prefent this Petition in the Name of the I 
ch<int:> of London, in fjll Confidence that it will be £■■ 
defeive the Regard of this Houfe, though I am equlljfi 
tiie other Members a Stranger to what it containi; Ar 
my Opinion that a Reprefcntative is to lay before ifacH 
theSentiments of his Coallituen[<, whether they agiHi 
his own or not, and that therefore it would bave becili 
fl'joui CO examine the Petition, which, though I migh 
wholly ha\e approved it, 1 hsd no Right to alter.' 

The Petition was rea.^, and is asfollowi: 

Tonlon P-ti- Tiie humble Petition of the Merchints and Tiaia 

r:o" agamit it. ^j^^ ^>j,y ^^ ^o^j^j^ flicweih, 

That your Petitionerit are informed a Bill m deye 
in this [?on. Houfe, for the Enroaragemeot anti loo* 
Seamen, and for the better and fpredier Manniag hi 
j:L>y'5 I'leet, h which r.re Cli^fcs, tbat, fhodd tki 



( 23; ) 

fito 1 law, 'your Petitioners apprehend will be highly Antio 14, Gctr 

ncDtal to the Trade and Navigation of this Kingdom, by Iijyjo. 

anging Perfons from entering into, or being bred to 

in Service, and entirely prevent the better and fpeedier 

tiag his Majelly'i Fleet, by giving the Seamen of Gieat 

JB, ftod of all other hit Msjelly's Dominions, a Dif* 

of ferving on board the Royal Navy. 

bat yoDT Petitioners conceive nothing can be of fo bad 

cqaenccto the Welfare and Defence of this Nation, as 

•uting fo ufeful and valuable a Body of Men, who are 

Btval Strength and Security, like Criminals of the 

eft Niture, and fo diffisrently from all other his Ma~ 

1 Snbjefts ; and at the fame time are perl'uaded, that 

iflly cfftAual and fpeedy Method of procuring, for the 

ce of bii Majelly's Fleet, a proportionable Number of 

iailon in this Kingdom, is to diitinguifh that Body of 

l^ Bountie* and Encouragements, both prefent and 
C ind hy aboliOitng all Methods of Severity and ill 
jc, particularly that Hraflice whereby they are deprived, 

looK and hazardous Voyages, of enjoying for a Ihort 
e cv Time the Comforts of their Families, and equal 
r^ with other their Fellow Subje£ls in their Native 

bujoar Petitioners bcliere, it will not be difficult to 

fach Methods pointed out, as will tend to fupply the 
■I Neccflitiei, and at the fame Time efitflually pro- 

efac laereate of Seamen, when this Hon. Houfe (hall 
t ft to enquire into a Matter of fuch high Importance 
e Naval Power, Trade, and Riches of this Kingdom. 
Int foor Petitioners are convinced this Bill will not 

be incffcAual to anfwer the Ends propofed by it. but 
be dcftrodive of the Liberties of all his Majelly's Sub* 

■I icimpowers any Parifh Officer, accomp.iny'd with 
tHmited Number of Perfons, at any Hour, by Day or 
l^iitf 10 force open the Dwelling Houfes, Warehoufes, 
^er Places, provided for the Security and Defence of 
.loTCa and Fortunes, contrary to the undoubted Liber^ 
if the People of Great Britain, and the Laws of this 

CoDfideratioD therefore of the Premifes, nnd of the 
alar Prejudices, Hardships, and Dr.ngers, which mui't 
c^iljr atieod your Petitioners, and all others the Mcr- 
■ SDd Traders of this Kingdom, .Oiould this Bill pafs 
ft JLaw, your Pe:itioaers moll humbly pray, the Ho- 
bis Hoafe, that they may be heard by their Counfcl 
ktbe Aid Claufes in the faid Bill. 
a Aid PciitioD wis ordered to lie on the Table; and 

the 



.1,... 



( x99 ) 

Anno 14. CcQihe TIoTioanbJc Mr.Buhuril Ibea prt{enttd a 
n.i74'>. fpokcas followi. 

^-''"^'^^^ Mr. Bathurft. 

5 I M. 

Mr. Bitiiwift. • The .Alarm whkh the Dilt now drprndflig 
ii ODt confined id ihc Cit)r tf Lomioit, or to My' 
Province of hit MujffI)'! Docniniomt tlic KM 
it ihrown into CommotMMi*, and tbc LAe^ bf |hc| 
propofed ate dreaded £ir and wide 31 j e^r.cr 
Ever}' Tout! which owes it* Trade ..1 
vlgaiion, apprebendi the Appro .ch 
mid ihofe which nrc Icfs immcdiarr 
lofrtdion ufour Liberuet at a Prei.i - 
H>ip(7 would it be, if we who »re mirulinl 
ttrdl, could find aay Argdtnroii [OCORviarci 
Terror wai merely pink. 

• Thai ihefe Fean have tWetdy cxler''-' 
to the Cbuoty wUicii [ rcprrfer.i, the Pc 
beg Lave to Uy be'orc the Houie, v-'i 
and I hope their Rcmonnnncei wi 
ftmbif to remove the Oufc oflhcir i^iHiujet,' 
the Blll.- 

Thia, w»i rnri[!ed» PctiiiMi orfcveni Geii:)ra 
holdert. ind other Inhabiuntt of the Coutuy or ' 
in Btha'f of tbcmfclvri and xll orher the Frc 
(aid Countf . letting tarih in Subi{aoc>e. 

That the Pctinonen be-ing iofonn'J thjt 
depeitdtog in thii Hoafr. far the Eocoti^i 
locirareof Seamea. and for the better and h 
niBg hi» Mtjefly'% Meet. conniBirg fevrmi Qii 
fhould the Bi)l p*ri inio a Law, would, u the 
ftpprchend, inpole liardlhifM upon the Pcoi 
to be borne, and create Dilconteoti ia the 
Maj«Sy*i SabjeAi ; would fuhvert aU the 
vilegei of a BritOD. and overturn hUgaa 
the Bafii on which they arc baiit 1 aad by tl 
Itroy thar very Liberty, for the PrrferrattiM of 1 
prefcnt Royal Fimilf wai >-''■ " ; -,i ^lyon the' 
Great Brinin ) for wbicii 1 ch a Ltw 

be obe)'cd, or much Blood kl.4;u oe {had ii 
of it. 

Mr. Heqry Pelhaio. 

S t a, 

* I have attended to thiv Protiott whli tKe 
tiality, wd bivt endeAroared tO'^C 
noil innocirt Scare, but can&oi for^ 



Oonctftef Pe. 

tlUOIl, 



Mi. PeUuBL 






r 189 ) 

Aat it ii fir dJtUnt from th* Stile cf Snbraiffioo Anno ItCe*' 

Rrcjorll; inUud of pcrruading. they areempt to iniimi. It 1740. 

tu, and acaace us wiih no le;') cHin S.'oocillicd and Re- 

iHian. Tbey mske ihemfelves the Judges bf our Pro- 

and appeal from our Derermiiisttont to their Opi- 

^, —d dcclgjc ihxt the/ wiU obey bo Ignger tluo ihey 

^Tf foch Petiiionias theff. Sir, are admitted t if tl>« Lew 
^laure Ih ill fubmit 10 receive Liws. and Subjedi nfamc it 
'ir« ibe Power with uhich ibe Goverr.mcne it v«ned, 
is thii Hoofe but t CoDTc&ttOD of einp:> Plun;umi, 
Determinations are notliing more than a Mocktry of 
•I 
t Every tnfult upon this Houfe is 1 Viobtioo of our Con- 
' itioD* and the Conllitution, like erery other Kabri<. by 
[Wag often battered, mult fall at Utl. It is indeed already 
f^tffaycd. if there be in the Nation any Bcdy of Men who 
ImI) with Impunity refufc to comply *ith the [jwi. pirad 
ibr pnt Charter of Liberty againft thole Powtn ika: made 
k, ud £x the Limits of tbeir Obedience. 

• I nnnot. Sir, pafs over in Silence the MrntioD of ha 
Utjt&f, wbefe Title to ibe Throne, and :h- Reafons for 
wtntb he Krij exalted to it, are (ci forth with uncftmmoa Att 
ttd STiril of Dietton. but Spirit, which, tn my Of irion, ap- 
pean cot raifcd by Zcz), but by Sediuon, and K'bich tberc- 
lore it ii our Province 10 reprefs. 

• That his Majelly retgnsfor the Preferraiion of Liberty, 
w3|be readily confcHed.but bowQuU we be able co preferve 
il, if bii Laws are not obeyed i 

• [<r tn therefore, in tcgstd to the Dignityof ihisHoofe, 
18 I; I ■ . .■ of our DcKrmination). anJ the Security of 
oar L n, difcoarage all thofe (vlio fhall iddtcCs us for 
(be tuiujc ca tbii or sny other Occsfictn, trom fpeiking in 

I (te Stilc of Governon and D^&aton, by refiifing that this 
rioo (hould be laid on the Table.* 

The QuciUoD wa» pu;, and it was agtreJ thit it lhoul4 
[aociycou the Table; Ayes 144. Nuet i<}6. 

|lr. Henry Pclham rofc up agaio. and fpoke Hum 

SlK. 

. I r^nB.^r hot ceitgTtiolate the Hoofr upon the Uoaai- Mr. Ucnr| 
ftitv lich ihii Peiition. a Petition of which I fpeak PeUtauw ■ 

U i^c ,^.i,.', ;.Ang-jige,fvlim 1 call it irrcvcicnt antldil'rctj.>rA> 
.-, ha* been rvfuird the Regard commonly paid to (he 
KcrooaUianccs of out Cooftitucnts, wbo£e Righu i am ^ 



VuL vn. 



f P 



Iron 



( «90 ) 

Anno 1 4- Gto from defiringto infringe, when leadeavour to regiilite their 
n. i74i> Condufl, and recal them to tbeir Duty. 

^yYN^ * This is an Occafion, on which it is, in my Opioicn, 
necelbry to ixert '>ur Authority with Confidence and Vigour,. 
aa the Spirit of Oppoiition muft fthnys be proportioned to 
that of the Attack. Let us therefore not only refji'e to thil 
Petition the u(ua! Place on our Table, but rejcft it as uawor- 
thy of this Houie. 

[ rbe QuelUon was put and the Petition rejcfied } 

The Houre then entered upon the Confideration of ihe 
Bill, and when the Report was made from the Committee, 
and the BUnks gil'd up. Sir Willum Yonge fpoke in the 

fullowing Manner : 

S I a. 

Sir William * "^^^ Bill has been brought by fleady PerfeventDCC ud 
Yonge. diligent Attention tofachFejfcQion that much more irapor* 
tant EfFcds may be expe£bed from it than from any fonaer 
I^w for the fame Purpofe, if it be executed with the lame 
Calmnefs and Refoluuon, the fame Coottmpt of popular 
Clamour^ and the fame invariable and intrepid Adherence to 
the public Good, that has been ibewn in forming and dciod- 
ingit. 

• But what can we hope from thil or any other Law, if par- 
ticular Men, who cannot be convinc'd of i'li Expedience, uall 
not only refufe to obey it, but declare their Defiga of ob- 
firufting the Execution of it ? fhaJI determine to retire {torn 
the Sphere of their Authority, rather than exercift itia 
Compliance with the Decree of the Senate, and thrcaice ia 
plain Terms to call the Country in to their AflirtaDce, aad CO 
pour the Rabble by Thoulands upon thofe who fluU daic ID 
do their Duty, and obey tbeir Governors ? 

• Such Declarntioni as theft. Sir, are little lefiibBBSlllin 
of Rebellion, and if they pafs without Cenfure, will perbapi 
produce fucb Commotions af may require to be fupprefledb|r 
other Means thr.n Forms of Law and Parliamentary Cenfarcf. 

• Nor do 1 think that by rcj^fling the Petition, we have 
fufHctently ctiablrfti'd our Authority ; for, in my Ojrinion, we 
yielded too much in rene.ving it. The Bill before ui, what- 

. evtrr a\..y be its Title, is in reality a Money-Bill, a Bill I7 

wiiich Aids are granu-d ro the Ciown, and we bave Cbeia> 
furc no NeceHity of rejecting Petitions on this OccafioBa b^ 
caufe the lUhding Orders of tnc Uoufe forbid ui CO adnic 
chem.' 

TJiey 



(^91 ) 

Thfy then prOcrf*3ed loUie ^mendmenti, and when t^c AnnoH.i 
Qub for Itmiring ihr Wdg»of ^c;>.mrn wai reid, Sir John '^ *'*°' 
kaud rote up, tnd (poke to ibii Effccl. 

..Sift, 

■ i Wcart nowtocooftJcrthr CUnle to wliich ibe Pftliion sir John 
ftel which I have no* y.r. ir.trL', a I'-tiiion on a Siihjrtl bartuiJ. 
itfhgrncfil hnpcruncc. and . iV -M hy \^!rn iniii*;! .rqiwint- 
rtwrth every Aigu.nfni tlijtili.'i bcotl. 'i!, irdfvrry Ob- 
it CJin be rnilnl, that their KeijuciL of Ix^ng hczrd 
Cooncil, cannot Ik dcmet), w>[ho<it cxpnling ui to 
rC of adbcriiig obllrniitc'f lo our own Opinioni* 
-..- . n^ our Eart agitnll Inform-iiioBi of pitfrrnng Kxpe> 
to ^iccurity, and dilrcgarding the Welfare of our Couo- 

* It viQ not be nectfTiry, lodcJerour Deiciintnatior.s on 

' ".li for more ihiin three Days, the' vie (hould gnitlfy 

inJ common Reqiwil. And will not ikh Cait be 

■.umpentatcU 6y the Sxutf.'^tia of ihe Pcup'e, for 

Siftty wc arc dtbscing, and by (he Cotijciouftief't ihit 

ic iKgl«£t?d nothing which might contribute lo iho 

I fifiort of uur Meal'u.'c* ? 

Mcrchanct, Sir, do eot come before ui with load 
- -ncri and harra^ng ComplaiotJ. thry do nor apply 
. but our L'udcrlUndiDgs aod oUcr fuch lofor- 
I very much faciiiwte tliepurtli;; Service. It 
cnt. m thetourreof ihi« Dcbjrc, to hrar loud 
: b<:icr Iljtpcdicnt^, aod mote cfHdiiiijus chao 
which h^re bcCQ propoieJ, and is it to be couceivcd 
io)e wboc4llcd thiimgerlr for new PropoCili intended 
jftforro themfelvet bm to filcnce ikeir Opponents? 
whom. Sir, are (be bctl Mrtbodj for the Proiccu- 
(ttval .\RA\n to he cxpedcd, but from ihoff whofc 
»r^ fncnt in the Stud)f of Qwiineicc? whoie Foi- 
I'DH the Knowledge of the Sea, and who will 
j.v^^.,. , exert their Abilities in concriving Expe'.ienti 
sitt the Succefs of the War, than they whom the Mif- 
igeofour P",cet» tnufl i.reparibly ruin ? 
' The Merchints Sir, are enabled by their Profeflion to 
iferm Di, Are detcr'd by their Inicreft from deceiving m ; 
•^Kavc, like all other Suhjefis, a Right to be heard on any 
•efiien, a»d a bet ■ ~ thnn any other when their !n- 

htt U more imni' Tcfted ; and thercfsre to rcfufe 

h«ar ihein, will be a; cncc iupoliric and cruel t it ^vill 
(cover at the i^aoie time • Contempt of the moll v&luiiblc 
ttt d ooi FcllMr-fabjc^t. and an inflexible Adherence lo 
X own OpioioDs. 

P p = • The 




detrnnTnrd widraot thevlarrft Ki>owIe(l£e ifi 

furmaiiun.* 



a 



S<r Robeit Walpole. 

Sii, 

SirKobnt * The PetiHcm, wbether juflifiaWc Or not, wi:Ji 

Walpq!e. ijjg Occafion oo which it is prefenicd, or lh« 1a 

u'hich It ii cxprefTed. » ceminly offered it in 
Time, and ihcnfme cso Uy fto CUini to the IUj;tf 
Houie. 

' The Time pcrfcribed by the Relei of tMi Hob 
Recrpiion of Peiiiioni is that, at which the Bii) is i 
djceJ. nriat whkb it » tabefioatly detrmiicid. 

' The Pedtion before ui ii uid not to rtginl t 
general, but a piinicuUr daulc : &nc] U U chcicron 
tit:i( it may now properly b« lieai<J ; but thlt Plea «f 
dutely Tinilh, when it fhxtl be msdeapp^ (btt ti 
ii not mentioned in i:, and that ciiere i* no part 
lion bciwccnihjtaod the Peutioo, which I fliall 

Sir Jobs Bunanl. 

S t R. 

Sjf jobrt * I rife i))us abruptly, to prcferre the Order of |] 

iUrrurX and to prevent my Gendcmin fftun hiving In t| 

any other Adviotagc above the let), ih&Q thl( < 

Abiliiiet, or moie cxtcnfire Kcowlctfge. 

• The PetitioQ w» not oidercti by the Htmfc tt 
in the Right Honourable CentlemaB*! Hand, fa 
I'uble ; nor hat he a Right to make ole oF WT oth 

. ktt kk la" 



*. 



tahrUam thinkinf, the Rule: q{ the Honfe aflerr- 
inny Opinion, tic Ktglicoi tbcMrmbcrn infringe 
. percmpiory Demand. Ii it not u tbebighcil Dc> 
itiite, tiiat he who is about tu fcafonupoa the Pcii> 
lU tcqiuitit himrdf wiEh the SubjcA on which be l§ 

^Bconvenieoce* an enfue from fuch Liberties at 

K( sblatodifcovcr, and as lU the Orders of the 
1^ doul'tlefij made Tor more eaiy and cxpcditiou* 
; if an Older be contrary to th.k End. ii ought lo 
teed for the Hcafons for which others arc qbfcr»cd, 

Ooofidence with wliicb ibis Pebtion waaprelemed, 
'ui«r ui to iaiagtoe that the Ferfoa who offer'd it 

itc<n fuftff by a dole Examination, and, lluppofc, 
ic tilt rpokea lo warmly in Favour of it without 

be doet not cxpefl cbu otben fhould with cqu&l 
X wimit — — 

IB Barnard obferving that Sir Robert W»tpolf louwd 
lO«Wdi the 1 able, to read the PetitioD u k l*y» 



Jiimi>i4,€eoi. 

It «740. 

Mr. Henry 



t oocc more to iJcnuind The Obfervation ofihe Or-Sir Jdhn 
c Hottfe, and to hinder the Right Honourable Gen-I^ruid. 
<oin doing by Straugem. what he did nore opcaty 
iftljr before. 

lu so little Furpotc list he Uid down the Petition, 
DCd it within the tcicK of Kia InfpcAianj fui I was 
MoifSir, to binder him frono reading, aiid was far 
'r*^'-|T that he would uke it away, i iofitt, that 
. obey the KuleV ofthii Houfe with im Eyes 
*v :in ml Handt, a&d cake no Advantage of bii Scat, 
1/ enable bun to perplex the QucUion id Debate.* 

^kcr. 



r aadmlncdly rtqoircd by (he Orderi of the Hou(<e, The Speaker. 
Pscuiont (bould lie upon the Table, and tbae any 
,who u deGrout of any farther SaiuNAMm, fhould 
hti ibey be rcid by the Clerk, that every Member 
9limiui* Opporiunity of underfbndingand con/i- 

Cue miy be excluded trom Jofor- 
Illation 






( 294 ) 
AwHi I*. C«* mation by the Curiofity or Delay* ofanoihfr. I 

II ^•^o. [torunce of ihii Aniir feems not tu be fo 1 
^/"V"^ qufre a rigorous Obfcrvancc of iSc Ruin . 
wiftied, *or (he Rafe and Expedition of 
Gen-iemen would ncfaer yield Polots of i- 
unoihcr, ihin in&ft fo warm)/ on CtrcunUtaneci 
Kftfuire. 



S.r Robert Wilpo'e then defireJ thit (be Cle 
re-id itic l^ctirion, which brin{> tmmniUtely d 
cccdcd in the fb'Iowing Mmoer. 

Sir Robert Wjilpole. 

SlE, 

• H*ving (at above f. rty Years In Ih- ArT'-; 
never btrtl failed lo Order befof«, I wai iw-.\fm 
■eertet) by Jt Cenfure fu new tml onexjMffed, m 
Opinion, brtJcferved 60 (fiat I im fonwwliat 
%»«ft rrg-.rd (o the Tnii» of A'-gumeni* whkh I 
eWcavoiir Jo rcrovcr. Yet I cjnnor bot rctnirk^ 
Q(i tf fo follicitous for Order raoth 
Uiti H)1y (oobfcrrr it ; *nd (hit. If I 
gircQ in uohsppy 'Pro(tdrn( of violntng tikr Rl 
hour<. I have, ifl Tome Menfurr, iton^ for oi] 
tci>ce, by a patient Aiteotioii to Reproof, aad a 1 
ra:ir>OQ to Authority. 

• I brpc. Sir. I nay ckim fon« trdolRerc'T frot 
(i?eof my Offvucc. whiCh wui only a l>" - -^ 
■nd ah Apprchenfion tbst I might, by m. 

ling lotnc PafTigei in the Pciition, lole it 
ititcj'upr ihe Proceeditgi of the Iloute to r 

• Km having ni w, sccotti'mg to Order, ^.rlro in 
iitd lourul no Rcafon to alter my Opinion, I fluO 
lo t 'xuftf, that it ouj^ht rot to be gm 

• ' Sifj itio fu- ffom bcBiingasy 
Rt' . ttut it don 
I'm ! in It. but 
cenerftl ii>cclaia(ioo o( Utk^nwnt, iid(picifMI» 1 
liuri cf dangerout Proceedinge, Rnd Diflike of 
ctrJirg* : Inlinu:ition», Sir, by co Mcibi <o»€ 
the Kcvcirrtre due to tbii A(tirmfaHr« aivd wbkli 
cf ctvil GovcromcDt requiitt alwayt to be pild < 
fi-.tivc Poiier, 

• 'lo fu pctt any Mao, Sir, in common 
Degrre to detrtft from hi» l**p«tlticn. <* 
Proportioa to ibc Itippurcd Wildom .\:d iir.z^: 
who dcclaiet hi) Suipi<:ion. I o luJy-cci ti- : '. • : 



495 ) 
U toinrarKUte their Ueciitonf, and fubjcA tticm lo Annnti^Qem. 
asd Oppofiiioo. U iTju 

ud fucfa ontjr appears to be tlie Teadenc)^ ofliie ^^^>^ ^^ 
wfctcii bai flow been mA j t Petition, Sir, verf 
IfdrtLwa, if it vras tucndrd againll the C aafe no- 
C'oofidenitiDn, ior it has cot 3 tingle Pcticd or Ex. 
dtu docsnoccquaUv regsrd 2II tbe other Cladet. 
Uy pariicuUr Objcclion is tnide, or say tingle 
more dininilljr i>otnted ai, it is the Pra^ice of 
; a Hard^ip I own peculiar to the Siiilori ; but it 
t oUicTvcii, thai it is a Pra&icc cltablilhed by irantr- 
lUlom. and a Irain of Precedents not 10 be nun)' 
^_ i sad It h vkH known that the whole common I^w 
Vttit Xaiion is nothing more thao Cullom, oi wbich Che 
I^Biiirg cannoc be traced. 

• ImyrciTci, Sir. have lit all Ages been i/i'iied out by 
Cftc wi tbe Royal Prerogative, and have in all A{» 
ku obeyed I and if this Hxertion of that Authority ba4 
in coaikicrcd a a Method of Severity not coinpcnCitcd 
^ Ac BcDriii which it piuduces, we cannot inugine but 
Jarftn pAtUaments, anidk all their Ardour for Liberty, all 
Tcademefs for the People, and all their Abhorrence 
Power of the Crown, would have obviated it by fosie 
at tbole Times when nothing could hikve been rcfui'd 



* Tkc fToper Tiirr ibr new Scheinei and long Dcltbrra- 
bOKI, forainrnding our Conliitution, find trmu^ing, invete- 
:t[e Grievances, ate tbe Dtyi of rfolfcnty aod &• fcty. 

• Immeciate Dangrr preflcs upon ut, nor any public 

^ » »Pfy-.r* to threaten u» j but when W»r isdtclared, 

win»'c^ic 'ly. gcd ID open HolliJiiiesagatoJl one Naiioa, 
mj . — /. .. i^ tprcdily attacked by anotl-rr, we are not tu 
trf r,t», but apply 10 d.-tDgcroiis iiviU thate Re- 

acd-vi, wHKii. iho(ig)idirBgr«eabie» »e know 10 bec&ca< 

* Aod though. Sir, the Petitioners had been more p-tnicu- 

far* 1 caaaot liikover Uic Rr^lua^bkncb of hi:4i>i,|{ ditn 
lytlMir CuuDcil; (or to wh;it I'ur^oie are tbe (.jwycts 19 
wikCroducM i not to inilruct m> b> liieir I caicing, (or their 
faployment i> 10 underilaiKl i!ir Law* that h.>%c been al- 
ttti/ tahdei and luppoit the Pr^fVcck which they knd 
tfti&|i(bcJ B^t the Queilion before ui relates not to ut 
Sit biM the iuturc ; nur are we now toeJumme what t\ • 
Men doae m iJtmer Ages, but what it will become w t.9 
(iiUilb oa the picfent Qcril'ioD : A SubjeCt ci Enquiry oa 
wkirb this Houis can cxpctt niy Mtio laAwmauon [i-.m 

^jAs tnkllan e( the Lmu 1 

■ • Perhapt 



> 




Antto f4,Cco. • PcrKao* thc Paltioocffi cxptA (rota thetr 
11.1740. ihcf (hould difpby rhe Fecundity of iticJt 1im| 
tlic Elegsncc &f their languge 1 Uut they 
U4 wiih the lilurions of Oratory, diale 01 with 
affeCl at with tirong RcprclisiuaiiaaG ; sad tall 
mooious Periods i but if it be only iDtcndcd 
nod valid Atgumenis fhtwld be laid bcfote ai, iMy ' 
IccciTcd wichouc Oxc Decorationt of (he Bar. 
Sir, it woald bavc been ruScient had Uw 
their Rtprcfertitiv-es of tho MethoJi whick 
propofc i for the Abilitiei of the Gentlemoi wl 
lui( de|mced to this Hoofe, are welt known a 
lUnd in Deed of no AlEftiDce from occifional Onic 
can it be expelled that any Men tvill be foand 1 
of undertlandingthe ArTuncnti of the McrclttBOU 
qualified to by them before the Houfe. 

* That every Pedtioner hit (cxc«pt on Moac7*| 
R'lgtn to be beard, ii uRdoubcedly true ; bat ili» 
dent that (hii Right k limited to a certaJa TfaM^i 
ihii Occifioo the proper Time is elaptied. Ji 
b*[li to Individuali and to the Nation ; if ' 
any 'i'iioc be ofFcr'd, and are wheocver ofiti'd 
afniAU Qody of Men might, by uofcafbfiableai 
PetidoBi. retard any occationai Law, till it 
ODDCcclUry. 

■ Petitiont, Sir.aretobeoflitr'd whraaaewBillitl 
into the Hoofe, thst all ufeful Informatioa n»y bci 
bat wbcQ It bos pifi'd thro' the Kxsminatios of 
mitieef, hu been approved by th« CoUcAivc Wi 
the Parliament, and requirei only ■ fornitl Katif 
[;tve it [he Force of Law, it 11 ncitbcr ofuil aor 
oflrr Petitioni, or declare any 0iQike of whait 
meat bai admitted. 

* Wa are not, when we have procMikil tJtu> br. 
Pleaders to cximioe our Coodu£t, or vary our 
lioDf, according to the OpinJotii of ihofe wbon «« < 
believe lets acquainted uith rhe Qoeftioit Cbaa 
Should wc once tie reduced to aik Advice, aiu) f ' 
ton, what woald be the Repuuiioo of ihtt 
Couru, er m our own Country ? What oouht ' 
but thitoar Eaemiei of every kind would codi 
gulate our Determiftatioiis by bribing our Inf 

* Nor C9D I think it nece&ry that Lau-yen 
ployed to hying before a» any Schrr- ■, ' ■! '1 ii 
may piopofe. for fitpplying the J ) 
Inconvcniencies of the Law%, by ^oko ^jiIc 
fea: ievicd for the Royal Navy ( far how 

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( 297 ) 

Bl&ftne qnaified thin other Mer, to cxpTain the particulir Arnoi4,Gefc 
kdvutages of (ach Expedient.*, or toaniwcr any ObJLClicns ^'- '74o- 
Rkkh my happen to arife i V-X^'V*^ 

* It i« well known that ic '» not eafy for che moti happy 
fipnker nimprefs his Notions with the ^crcngth with which 
VtncciTC) them; and yet harder is the I'afk of tranfmic- 
tii|iapined Knowledge, of conveying lo others thole Senti- 
■ftDwhich we have not llrack out l>y our own Reflet^lion, 
MTOdiefied from our own Experience) but receiveo wciely 
'ftvnitheOiAates ot another. 

■ YctfiKh mull be the Information that Lftwyers can give 
■■(Vkocio only 'relate what ihcy have implicitly received, 
mti Miken the' Arguments which they have heard, by aa 
laperitfi Recital. 

' Nor do I only oppofe the Admifiion of Lawyers to our 
Bar, bis think the Right of the Merchants themf'elves in 
thcarcJcBt Cafe very quellionable i fur t ho' in general it 
iWEfal rillowedi that every Petitioner has a Ciaim to our 
AnodN, yet it ii to be enquired whether it is likely that 
dsfrite Happinefs is his chief Concern, and whether his 

Ettlnterelt is not too much affefled to fuffer him to givs 
rill Evidence, or hone(t information Scarcely uay 
Babe made by which fome Man ii not either impo- 
VUtkul, or hindered from growing rich : and we are not tO 
BIq u Complaints, of which the Foundation is fo caftly 
ntolmd, or imagine a Law lefs ufcful, becaufe thufe who 
MvfaRimmtdutelKConveaience from i:, do not approve 

'» ■ The Qneftion before us is required by the prefcnt Exi- 
JpNI«f our Affiiirs to be fpfcJi.y d.-cidcl ; and tho* the 
MKhants have, with great 1 endernefs Companion, nnd 
iftMjt condelcended Vj oifer us their Advice, L think lix- 
Midoo preferable to ai:y Informntiuo tli^tt can rcdlonablv 
it cneAed from them, and iha;, ai^ they will futfer in tine 
llPlace by any Milconduflof our nav.l Afl^irs, we ih.iM 
Inrnorc Regard to their Intcrell hy marning our i'icct 

Kiltel)r,- thin by wainng three or four Days foi farther 
tiooi* 

Mr. Sxaiji. 

SiK, 

^ The Merchants of London, whether we ci-fider their Mr- Sandys. 

— hrn, their Property, their Integrity, or tli=ir Wifdotn, 

(.a Body of too much Importance to be thus concemptu- 

^ fcjeftedi rejected when they ?Ik nothing that can bo 

Kf deaicd to (he nie?^eft SubjeA of the Kingdom : when 

Vol. Vli. Q q (he/ 



. ( 298 ) 

Anno 14. Geo. they propore to fpealc on eathing bat wliit tfcdrl 

^Ll'JSi "lable* *•»<'" » uoderfliBiJ. 
I— ^^^^ • To flO?crf>ofcis it urged, (hat cbc Bin h hrtd 
for if we have not proceeded in the right way. we 
be in more Htfte to return, in Propor(ioo zt tt-e k 
brther ; nor can I dircover why we ihuo'tt expediH 
much Afliduity, Meafurn which are judged incii 
ifaole wbo know their Con(e<{uencet bcft, mi for m 
* vantage ihty ate partJcutarljr dcfiganl. 

• That we hive iUezdy Iprnt to mach Time iB CC 
Method) for tnanning the Fleet, t( fartly one Re 
we ftwuld endeavour at h& to e^ablifb fucb a$ may 
lusl ; nor can we hope to fuccred wsthoat m patieaf 
to ihrir Opinion, wbo mail necefliirily be well sz; 

I in naval Affiiri. 

• h ii fgrely therefore neither prvdent nor juft * 
Intrlligencc from our Afrcmbliet. and ridicate tb« 
tcntion of (hoCe th« o0er ic : lo coaful; upoa the hti 
coti far enct>tingrng and iacreafing Sailors, idij \ 
Merchanii offi-r thrrrSchrmr, to treat theinai Uk 
uoeni.idle Mcdieri, ibataHiime -.* 

Mr- (Attorney General) Ryder called him 
fpoke after thia manner : 

S I a. 
■ It ii flot very conMcrit to preb the Difpti 
and to fcGinJ it at iht rsme nine by inrraio«i 
or unjuil Reprcreniatibni of Aigumenii or Ex 
whenever any E^tprtOioBii cenrured, it ongbttobt 
in thrbme Words: forotherwilVdoea not the Anil 
nifc tbe Phantom that be eocounteri / Doea he »oc 
Slain, which be endesvoara with fo oiflcb officiow 
Wipeaway » 

• That no Gpithetsof Contempt or Ridtctilt ba 
I>cb.iie brcn applied to the Nfeivhinti. nor any Vi 
J>crnry aiicmptrd, it ii uanrceiTiry ta^tove 1 iod 
itil neither regular nor candid lorepirlent any M 
gravating the Reftifal cf their Pttltion utih Rcproi 
iDfaUs. But not 10 dwell longer on thii looiia 
take the Liberty of reminding tbe Cenileman. tl* 
Invcdirn are atwayi at lead tupciiluoji, aad tkat 
Befiof tbe Day rccpora rather Argumrnti tbaa Sn 

Mr. Saodyi. 

Sift. 

• I un by M> nttot eonviiKcd *iui tb« tnnaJ 
tuu wbo (birgn ao with Irfrgalarity, U bfOr ■ 






Smki}U 



ihiD ayfcif with the Rules and Cuftoms of this Houfe, Anno 14, Geo, 

which I have fiudicd with great Application, afliiied by long 11- 174^* 

ElpertCBCe. I hope, therefore, it will be no inexcut'able V.X^V*^/ 

fltrainptioni H, inftead of a taciL Submiflion to his Genlure, 

I iftrt, in my own Vindicacion, that I have not deviated 

im the cAabJilhcd Kules of Parliament ; that J have 

j^nken only in De/ence of Merit infultcd ; and tliat I have 

CMdanned ooly fuch injurious lofinuations; I did not, Sir, 

aoenpt to repeat ExpreHious, as ought cot to be heard with- 

cot Reply.' 

He Speaker. 

Si a, 

* I believe the Gent'eman either heard imperfcAly, or The Speaker, 
ufioderflood thofe Exprelli<jns, which he fo warmly con- 

^01, ibr nothing has been uttered that could jutUy excite 
U| Indignation. My Ofiice obliges me on this Occafion to 
nmrk, that the Regard due to the Dignity of the Houle 
<^1uio retrain every Member from DigreiGons into private 
Sxbai for in Proportion, as we proceed with lefs Decency, 
nwl^rinioitions will have lels InHuecce. 

Mr. Hcory Pclhain. 

S.I t, 

* The Reputation which the Honourable Gentleman has Mr-Pelham. 
I ^BRd by his uncommon Knowledge of the Ulages of 

'wiuem, is too well founded to be fhaken; nor was any 
^BKk upon his Character intended, when he was inter- 
nvtol in the Hioftcution of his Defign. To cenfure anjr 
■HceDt Expreflion by whomfocver u:tered, is doubttefs con- 
■Int with the l)ri£lell Regularity ; nor is it lefs improper ^ 

^- IB obriateany Mifrcprcfectation which Inattention or Mif- 

\ lihe may produce. 

* lam iar. Sir, from thinking that the Gentleman's la- 

Agoatioawas excited rather by iMalice than Millake; but 

Midakei of this kind may produce Conlequences which 

ouoc be too cautioufly avoided. How uawilUngly would 

ikat Gentleman propngate thro* the Nation an Opinion that 

ifce Merchants were infulied in this Houfe, their Intereft 

■rtlefted, and their intelligence defpifed, at a Time when 

■o Afperfion was thrown upon them, nor any thing intended 

bot Tendernefs and Regard ? And yet fuch had been the 

BeprelcntaE>on of [his Day's Debate, which this numerous 

Audience would have conveyed to the Populace, "had not the 

Mifiake been immediately reflified, and the Rumour crulhed 

ia tbcBirdi. 

0.9 2 < Nothing, 



( 300 ) 

.nno,i4» Geo ' Nothing, Sir, can be more injurious to the Chirafier of 

It. 1740. this Houfe, by which the People are reprefenuii, thsn to 

-/''^VN.y accu'e tlicm of treatitig any Clafs of Men wi;h Ini'olcnce 

am' Cor.tempt; and [00 much Diligence cannot b:: ulcd in 

obviating a Report which cannot be fpread in the N'tcion, 

without givinr^ Rile to Difconienr, Clamourf, and SeJition. 

• Thoic who (hall be inclined to rejrft [he I'ctitior, may 
T>crhaps a& withr.olefs Regird to 'he Merchant', ami laif 
promote their Intcrcll and thtirSccuriry wiih no lef- Ar- 
dour ihrin tiiole who moll fullicitoully labour fur JLs Recep- 
tion. I'or, il rlit-y arc not nllowed to be he^rd, it is only 
bccaufe the pub tc Intcreil requires Fxptdiiion, and becaufo 
every DeUy cf our Prepnnilioni i> nn Injury to Trade. 

< That this is not a prnper Tiino for Petitions agiinfl '.fee 
Bill to be hcar<i, is univer'.illy known, :ind I tan difcoi'rr 
nothii g in the I'cfition that reliraiiis ic to li.is paiiicubr 
Claufe, uhich is fo fcr from being rpi.'ci!:Ld, tha: ic apptjr; 
to be the only Part of the Jjill vf which they have hid no 
lr.telligencc. 

• Let the warmcft Advocates for the Petition point oot 
any Pnrt of it that relates to [his fingle Claufr. and I will 
retraft tny Atlurciun; but as it <ippe.irs ihat there are only 
general Dtrli rations of the Inexpediency of the Meafurei 
propofcd, and the pernicious Tendency o( the Methcds now 
in Ufe. what is the Petition, but a Compbint againft the 
Bill, and a Requcfl that it fhould be laid afidc ? 

• The Pniftice of Imprcjli-:, Sir, is p^rticubrly cenfurH, 
as fevcrc ard opprcflive ; a Ch:i:ge which, howtver true, 
lias no Relation to this Claufe, which is intended to prom> tt; 
the vohmtary Engngemer.t of S:tilors in the Service of the 
Crown; yei it may not be improper to obferve, that ai the 
Praflice of imprciling, is, in iti'elt very cfli.:aciou)i, lad wetl 
adapted to (ni.'den Emergencies, as ic ha^ been eltabliflwd 1^ 
B long Succeflion of Ages, ^.nd it then fore become almidt a 
Psrt of cur Conllitution ; and as i: is at this '1 tme nccefliry 
to fupply the Navy with the utmoll Expedition, ic is Mttbcr 
decent nor prudent to complain too loudly againlt, or to 
heighten ihc Di'content of the People at a ncctfbTy Evil. 

• We have. Sir. examined every Part of this Bill with the 
Aicentinn wi.ich the Di-t^ncc of the Na'ion reqaircii we 
have rcf;en'd the Rigour of the Methods firft propofcd, and 
a(!mit:ed no Violence or Harc^^iip th:it is not abfoluwiy dc- 
ct'iTary to inr.ke ihe LaweA^eftual, which, like every other 
],aw, mvifl he executed by Force, if rt be obltruAed oroppo* 
fed. Wc have inferted a great Number of Amendnent), 
prnpofed by thofe who are reprefet^ced as the moft a&zieas 
Cuuidiatts of the Privileges oj the People, and it» aocfiirclx 

If 



( 30" ) 



hat (o Anno u,Cea. 
II, 174^. 



Piirpofe tbat ihe great Council orttc Natcon 

^ttul loJtudiciuliy labour'd, 

Thok who ftrechoren by the People to rrprerent them. 

iwk>i^(i!ly, Sir, fome Cl^im as IndividuaU to their 

and Rerpefl : for to imagine that tUcy have com- 

tlic g:c«t Ch.Mgc of parliarxMoiary Employ men ti, 

Ititff luve tiuiled their I.ibertiei aad their Happineli to 
twiiore Inegrity they iu(fe£\, or whole UndcriUndingt 
ddpitc, ii to iinngine them much more llupkl than they 
•bica rcprerentcd by thofe Kho are cenl'ur'd as their 

Bo: fir diflercnt is the Regard due to the Determina- 

fonatd by the callcAive Wtfdoiti of the Farli::nicnt ; m 

mhich ought to border upoa Kevcrence, and which 

Jy confjflen: with the leaJi Murmur of Di^IalitCiaJoB. 

are lo hear the prefent Petitioner*, h it not pro- 

' -ewe have difparch'd them, we {ball be loUi- 

, who Will then picjd the fame Right, fapport- 

U Dcw r'lcccdent * And i.<s it not pcflible that by oae In. 

upon another, our Meafures may be delayed, till 

'OiiH be iQefTL-doa] t 

U ietmi 10 me to be of much more Importanct to de- 

Mcrch^ma than lo hear them, and 1 fhjU iherefore 

laoCoAcrfliontst thb Time expedient, which may ob- 

EUMgreii Ei»d pfourEodc&TOUrs, the E<]uipmsat of the 

Ut, ?utteney, 
S.a, 

Notwiiiiflanding the Art and Rlotjuence with which the Mr. PuU«r 
Cnat of the Mcrchanu Pcntion hat been oppofed, I am 
Miyetabic todifca^-erthat any thing is aSted unreafonable. 
H^RcHented, or incoovcnient [ and I am confident, that oo 
Ral ObjeH oa caa have beet orcr-Iook'd by the Geottemea 
*bo have (]-oken ^gainl) it, 

' I hare tpent. Sir, thirty fire Vean of my Life in the 
hrliaamt. and knew that Information has alwayiupon im- 
^3ftallI Qutlliont been willingly receivediand it cannot fure> 
^be doubfod that ihe Pettiioncri are belt able to inform ai 
afaafil Dulinefi. and to Judge what will be the right Me- 
dndof leconciling the Sailun to the public Service, and of 
fcflplyiag our Klt^;* without injuring our'l'rade. 

* Tbcir j^bilitici and Imporuncc have beco hitherto fo 
JCwfalty acknowleilged, that no Parliament hai yet rcfufed 
to anrt>d to their Opinion, and (urely we ought not to be 
inbitioui of being the tifll Houfcof the Rcprcfencaci^'Mof 
the People, tku h&t rcfuTcd aa Audience to the Merchanti, 

• WiUi 



( 302 ) 

Anno 14, Geo. ' With regard to the Expedient! of delay tpg the I 
IL 1740 theprefent Conjun^lare; he mulUhiok very contempt 

|/"V''\^ of the Petitiontrs, who imagines that they htv? noil 
oflfer that will counter-balance a Delay of two Daj 
jnuft entertain an elevated Idea of the Vigilanceznd A 
of our Enemies, Enemies never before cmioeoc for £ 
tion, if he believes that they can gain great Advant 
fo fhort a Time. 

* The chief Reafon of the Oppofittoa appeari, i 
. not to beeither the Irregularity or Inexpediency of \ 

them, but the Offence which fome have received fi 
irreverent Mention of the Power of ImpreiEng; a 
which never can be mestioaed without Complaiat ( 
tclUtion. 

* It Is nor, indeed, impoflible that they may intni 
prefent to the Houfe, howtnuch the Sjilors are op| 
how much our Commerce is impeded, and how mu 
Power of the Nation is exhauiicd by this croel k 
They may propofe to {hew that Siilon, not having the 
of their Voyages, nre often hurried through a fudden < 
of Climates from one Extreme to another, and that 1 
can be expe£led from fuch ViciOi:ude!, but Sicknefa, 
nefi.nnd Death. They may prcpofe, that to havcji 
ved from the South may be pleaded as an Exempiia 
an immei^i^te Voyage to the North, and that the! 
may have fome time to prepare himfcif for fo great 
teration, by a Rcfidcnce of a few Months to t tu 
Climate. 

* If this (hould be their Intention, it cannot, in B 
nion, Sir. be call'd cither unreafunabie, (ir difrcfpefil 
will their Atlcgatiors becafily difproved. 

* But it is inlinuated that their Grievances are prope 
■s aiTeA them only st ditlind from the relt of the Con 
and that they have notiiing to corapUin of but a tei 
Interruption oftheii private Advantiige, 

* I have, indeed, r.o Idea of the private Advann 
legql Treaccr. For unlcfj, Sir, we ncglefl our Dutj 
viding that no Commerce (hall be carried on to tkc 
znent of the Public, the Merchants Profit inuft betb 
of the Nation, and their Intereils in(eparab]y combiv 

* It may, liowever, be poflihie, that the Merchai 
like other Men, prefer their immediate to their gie 
vantage, and may be impatient of a painful Rene 
necelTary to prevent a more grievous Evil. But U 
cenfure them by Sufpicion, and punilh them tor 
which it is only pofliblettiey may commititetui. Sir, 
have all the Certainty that can be obtaioed, ud all 



( 303 ) 

1 Aodience j let us neither be fo pofitive as not to receive Anno 1 1, Geo 
obniKitioni nor fo rigorous as not to litt^n to Entrrncies. H' '74^' 

* If [be MerchantJ h^ve nothing to offer, nothing but OOTN^ 
ZoBipUinn; and can propofe no better Menlures than tbofe 

vUch they lament : if thrir Arguments Oiould be found to re-> 
ptdftnly their prefent Intrrell, and to be formed upon nar- 
«v Views and prirntc Purporei, it will be eafy to de:eft the 
'■poftiire^ and rejeA it with the Indignation ic fhall deferve; 
lor will our Proceedings be then ceniuird by the N:ition, 
ildch requires not that the Merch.ints fl>ou1d be implicitly 
■Bercd, though it exprds they (hon!d be heard. Let us at 
M hi*v a Convention, chu' we OiouId not be able to con- 
idt a Treaty. 

* I koow not. Sir, why we have sot tnken cnre to obviate 
U thefe Difficulties, and to remove the NccrHity of t 'ctittons* 
Mm, Searches and tmpreni-s, by the plain and eify Me- 
Mofa Voluntary Regifleri by retaining fuch a Number of 
Imm as may properly be rcquifite upon fudden Emefgen- 
MtL Would not the Nation with more ChcarfdlneCs contri- 
■k Half-pay to thofe wtto are daiiy labouring for the public 
iiri, tbaa to the Caterpillars of the Land-Service, that grovir 
m i» I^zJDCfa, and are difablcd only by Vice ? 

* Let ten thoufand Men receive daily a fmall Salary, upon 
hWhioathat they fhall be ready, whenever ca lid upon, to 
Ine in tbe Service of the Crown, and the Diffi:alty of 
KkitbI Preparations will be at an End. 

^t Tkat it i> neceffiry to exert ourfelves on this Occafion, 
■dioftrike outfome Mcafures for fecaringthe Dominion of 
IpOcean, cannot be denied by any one who conftders that 
"ihave now no other Pretentions to maintain ; that all our 
on the Continent, at whatever Expencc gained and 
], is now in a manner loft, and only the Reputation 
' naval Strength remains to prcTtrveus from beinjj tra-n- 
land infulted by every Power, and from tinding Spxniiirds 
fKnry Climate.* 

I Sir William Yonge. 

P The Violence and Severity of Imprrfies. fo ofren and Sir Wi'Jiani 
I |intbetically complained of, appcira to be now nothing 1^0"S^- 
Ihc thu a Punilhment inflidcd upon thofc who ncg'eA or 
Mr to receive the Encouragement ofTtreil with the uimoll 
l^cnditf by the Government, nnd decline the Service of 
|HP 'Coontry from a Spirit of Avarice, OblUnacy, or Re- - 
kvcnt. 

* Thnc fnch Men deferve fome S^veriries, cannot be 
ibccdf ud therefore a Law by wuich n'j Peual^y fhould be 

cna^cd. 



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Annoi4, GeoenaAed, woald be imperfeA and tDcBeauI. Tb« 

1 •V^V-J *'°''* ^^'* of all Liws is to be enforced by Rewan 

^■^ ' ^^ Side, and Punifliments on the other, that every Pa 

be influenced, and even our Weaknefs made inOru 

the Performance of our Duty. 

■ Iq the Bill before us no PuDilhment is indeed ei 
creed, becaufe the Sailors who ftiill difrcgard it, 
left to their former HardOiips, from which thofe 
jgage volunurily in the Service of the Navy are ei 

* Why (o many Rewards and fo much Violence 
. aeceflary to allure or force the Sailors into the p 

vice, I am unable to comprehend. . For, cxceptin 
den Change of Climates which may doubtlefs fometi 
on Dilteraperi, the Service of the King hai i 
Tantages which are not common to that of the Met 

* The Wages in the Navy are indeed lefi, but 
to be remembered, that they are certainly paid, 
the Sailor ii in lei's Danger of loiing by a Ten 
"Wreck, the whole Profits of hii Voyage, beca 
can preferve his Life, he receives his Pay. Bat 
Voyages, the Seamen mortgage their Wages, as 
for [heir Care, which, if the Ship is lolt, thtj 
demned to forfeit. 

< Thus, Sir, the Hardlhips of the Navy appe 
great when compared with thofe of the Mercbui 
as they have been hitherto reprefented ; and I i 
that if Counfellori were to be heard on both I 
Meafutes taken for fupplying the Fleet wonld be 
be rcafondble and juA. 

Sir John Barnard rofe to fpeak, when Mr. FoD 
Order, and proceeded thus. 

S I K, 

Mr. Foi. * It is well known to be one of the Handing am 

ble Orders of this Houfe, that no Member Ihail k 
in a Debate on the fame Quellion, except when, i 
Freedom, we refolve ourrelves intoa Committee. 
Queftion, the Honourable Gentleman has already fp 
cannot therefore be heard again; Without fach a Tn 
of oar Orders ai mull inevitably produce Confufioi 

Sir John Barnard, 
S I ft. 
Sir John < I know not for what Rea(bn the Honoorable ( 

*•''"'*• apprehends any Violation of the Order o( the I 

M I have not yet ipoken opon the prefeot Qnefti 



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MfaabMd ftight tobe heardi a Right which that Genti«- Anno 14. Geo 
1 cuaot take away.' lV^V^N^ 

William Yonge. ^^ 

Sit. 

I know BOt by what fecret Dininflion the Gentleman sir-vriUiam 

rts in hit own Mind this Declaration, which, 10 the yonge. 

iHeafe muft appear very dlfHcutt tobe defended; for 

Mnft, before w( can admit it, allow our Memories to hnve 

I ni, and our Eyes and Gnrs to have been deceived. 

Did be not, as fnon -m the Ciaufe before us was read, rife 

laienihe CharaQersof the Petitioners, and their Kighc 

' AtteotioD of the Houfe ? Did he not dwell upon their 

e, their Abilities, and their Integrity : and enforce, 

bUiafnl Eloquence, every Motive to the Reception of 

ihlilion ? How then can he afli;rt that he has not fpokea 

inrefent Debate^ and how can he expeA to be heard a 

ll^ne, fmce however his Eloquence may pleafe, and 

EAlgnments convince, that Pieafure and Conviction can- 

X^m be obuined, without infringing the Itanding Orders 

rfcHoore.* 

Mr. Speaker. 
St a. 

It is not without Uneaiinrfs that I fee the Time of the Mr. Speaker. 
*'Ti and of the Pulilic, wafted in fruitlefs Cavils and un- 
Controverfies. Every Gentleman ought now to 
__.. _ that we are confulting iipon no trivial Qucllion, and 
ait Expedition ik not lefs neccfTirythnn Accuracy. Itcan- 
■Ibe denied, Sir, [to Sir John Barnard] that you have aU 
Mily fpoken on this Qucllion, and chjt the Rules of the 
Bmb do not allow you to fpcik a fccond Time.* 
Sir Robert Walpole. 

S 1 a, 
■ I tm ftr from thinking the Order of theHonre fo facred. ^'^SST* 
Bihai it may not be neglected on fome important Occafions i * ^^ 
■I if the Gentleman has any Thing to urge fo momentous, 
ftt, IB bis own Opinion, it outweigns the Regard due to our 
lUei,! IhttI willingly confcntthat he ihalt be heard.' 
Sir John fiainard. 
Sir, 
^ * I an far from being inclined to receive as a Favour, what, 
■ By own Opinion, I m.iy claim as a Right ; and dciire not Bani^? 
^ Dwe the Liberty of Speaking to the Condcl'ccnfion of the 
">|kt Honoanble Gentleman. 

' What I bave to urge is no lefs againfl the Bill in genenl 

AMtbepafxicuUrClaaic aow immediately under our Confi- 

Vol. VU. R X deration. 



( 3o6 ) 

Anno t4t Ceo deration, and tho' tbe Petition ihoald relatt likeivi 
11.1740. whole Bill, I cannot dircover why wefhoald rcfafei 

C^'N^^O ' Petitions from Men of much inferior Rank, a 
Intereft is niucb lefs cIoTely conneAed with that of t 
have been thought neceflary to be heard, nor is O. 
Individual to be injured or reftrained withoat being 
to offer bis Argumenu in hit own Favour. Even 
ocymen Shoemakers, one of tbe lowefl ClafTes of 
manicy, have been permitted to bring thlir Coun 
Bar^ and rcmonftrate agaioft the InomvcDiencies 
they were afraid of being fubjeOed/ 
Mr. Winnington. 
Sir, 

Mr. Winning' ' I Bm always willing to hear Petitions, when n 
ten. drawn up, and regularly fubrcrib*d,bntcan by nol 
cover that this is a real Petition, for I have he 
Names affixed to it, it i) therefore s Rirqueft from 
and by rcjeding it no Man is refufed. It may, fo 
be difcover'd, be drawn up by the Gentleman who 
and perhaps no other PeifoD may be acquainted w 

Mr. Hay. 
Si a, 

Mr. Hay. ' ^^ ■*• i" ^7 Opinion, neccflary that a Petit 

Name of the Merchants of London ttiould be 
by the whole Number, for if only a few fiiould 
Names to it, bow does it appear that it is any ifa 
than an Apprehenfion of Danger to their own part 
tereft, which perhaps the other Part, their Rivals 
may cooGderas an Advantage, or at leaA regard w 
fcrence. This Sbfptcion is much more reafonabl 
Petition is fubfcribed by a fmaller Number, who ma; 
imagined to have partial Views, and DeGgns not wt 
mient with the Intereit of the Public' 

Sir Charles Wager. 
Sir, 
Sir. Charles ' If I am rightly inform'd, another Petititm it 
Wager. i^y feveral eminent Merchants, that this Claufe ma; 

Part of the Bil) ; and ceruioly they ought to be 
wellas li.e prefent Petitioners, which will o:cafion 
unntrcclTury Delays, and therefore I am againft the 
Mr. Campbell. 
Sir, 
Vr Campbclf. « I agree with that Hon. Gentleman that if 1 
charts aic .lii/iv)ed in Opinion upon this Poiiit, 
i)t:'jh: to be heard as well as the o^ber, and hope 1 



C 307 ) 

(0 I Rerolution for chat Purpofe. For I fliall in- Anns 14, Geo 
\j promote every Propofal which tends to procure the ^'' '74^- 
Iflfbfmation in all Affjirs that (hall cotne before us.' C/'^V**^ 

' Tin the Qoeftion was pat. That the further Conlide- 
flfthe Report be adjourn'd for two Days (in order to 
the MercbiniO and it palled in tbe|Ne£atire, Ayes 
itf, Noei 196. 

2tm likewife moved, that Claufe A, which limits Sea- 

ital Wiges in the Merchants Service at 35 s. per Month, 

kicjeAed : After Debate, it pafTcd in the Negative: On 

'.•Stnfioa, Ayes 127, Noes 183. Refolved, that Claufe 

i do Band a Part of the faid Bill. 

(h the Report the eleven Claufes of Severity were given 
■ without any Divilion, and a Claufe was added, viz. 
MMed that nothing in this Bill be conftrued to extend to 

»Contra£ts or Agreements for the Hire of Seamen [or 
■i employed as fuchj in Voyages from Parts beyond 
it Seit, or to Great Britain. 

(Meied, That the Bill with the Amendments be in- 
pfid. 

The 16th. Read a lirfl time, a Bill for enlarging and re- 
' fdnng the Trade to the Levant Seas. 
[ Kcad a fecond Time, a Bill tocontinue an A& for Relief 
■fDnfalors, with refpea to the Imprifonment of their Per- 
fal I and two fubfequcnt A&s for explaining and amending 
Alfane; and alfo tocontinue an Ali for [he free Importa- 
in, of Cochineal and Indico. 

'n ■ Committee, went thro* the Bill for continuing the 
Stfa open Salt) and upon Red and White Herrings. 

Read a third Time, and pafled the Bill to fupply fonie 
OeftQt in the Laws for repairing and rebuilding County 
Bridges : and for repairing, enlarging, erecting, and pro- 
lUiag Houfes of Corrcftion ; and for paOlng Rt^gues and 
VanSonds : Ordered it to the Lords. 

Read a fecond Time the Bill for the Improvement of the 
IhiO&Aare of Woollen Broad Cloth, and to prevent Abu- 
fa in iDaking of the fame. 

The 17th. Agreed to the Report of the Bill to indemnify 
PiQMffaint Purchafers of Eflates of Papilb, againit the Pe- 
adties or Forfeitares Papilli are liable to for noc having en- 
Itfled their Eflates, &c. with feveral Amendmints : Or- 
faed it to be engrolTed. Read a firll Time-, a Bill to pre- 
nat fbme InconvenicRcies arifing fiom Infurances of Ships. 

Agreed to the Report of the Bill fur continuing the Di> 
tin Bpoa Salt, &c. Ordered it to be ingrofud. 

. Took into Confidcration the AmenOments nude by thf 

Rr 2 Im. .5 



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Anno 14. Geo. Lords to the Bill to 3 mend the L»w concerning cobubh 
J^h^^^i Recoveries, and to explain so Aft 29th of K- Charlei II. 
^'^^r"**^ for prevention of Frauds r.nd Perjuries, fo far a» the bni 

relates to Eltalcs, per auier Vie: And agreed to them, ■■i.,^. 
made ;ir.ot!',er Amendment thereto. Ordered it to the Loid^M 
for their Concurrence. 

In.i Cummirtee, went thro* the Weflminfter-firidge-BtlK^ 
with fevcrnl Amendments. 

In a Commitcee, went thro' the Bill for the better Rt^s-* 
fervation of the public Roads of England, with fevc 
Amendments. 

The iSth. Agreed tothe Report of the Bill to continue! 
A£l for Relicfof Debtors ; and alio to continue an AAfortl 
free Tmporution of Cochineal and Indjco : Ordered it lo t»^ 
ingrcfli'd. 

Read 2 third Time, and pnfled the Salt Bill. 

Read a third Time, and paffed the Bill to indemnify PrO' 
teftant Purchafers ofEllatcs of Papilii, againU the Peiuliies 
or Forfeituics PapiRs are liable to for not having tnrolltti 
their Eilates, in purfuanre of an Afb ^d of K. GeorgjC I, 
f I r thst Purpofe: Ordered it to the Lordi. 

The '9th. 7'aok into Canfiderition the Report of ibB 
'Welltrinfl.-r'Bi-idgc-BIM, and made a Progrefi therein. 

The zctS. Read a third Time, and pafled the Bill M 
continue an kSt for Relief of Debtors, with refpcA to ibi 
Imprironnicnt of their Pcrfons ; and atfo to continue an AA 
for the ImpurtntioR of Cochineal and Jndico : Ordered it n 
the Lords. 

Read a fccond Time the Bill for regulating the Trade to 
the Levant Seas. 

In a Committee, went thro' the Bill to amend » AH 
6:h of K. George 1. relating to the AAurance of Ships apcM 
Bottoniry, wi;h feveral Amendments. 

Orucred, That the S;:amcns Bill be read a third time u 
Mondiy next. 

The 21 fl. Ordered, That the Merchants tradiog lo the 
Levant Sca<, do hy before the Houfc. an Account of the 
Number cf Ships employed in the faid Trade ibr 3a Ycua 
pafl, anJ ti.e Tonnage thereof. 
R0V3I A^T-rir Wr. Speaker repotcd. That the Houfc bad attended Hit 
Ri-.un to liivc- Majtlly in ihe Houfe cf Peers, where hi> MajeAjr wai' 
ral Bills. plcaffd to give the Royal AfTent to, 

1. Alt Act fo.- continuing the Dutiei upon Malt, Munii 
Cyder and Perry, ic. 

2. All .\(li to prohibit the Exportation of Com. Gnin, 
(Rice cxccpicil) Meal, Malt, Flour, Bread, Bifcait. Stirchp 
Beef, Pork and Bacon, till December 25, 1741.' 

3. Att 



C 309 ) 

(. An A& for punilhing Mutiny and Defertion. Anno 14, Geo 

4. An AA CO indemnify Perfons who have omitted to I1-1740. 

■ke Che Oaths. &c. V-/^VX^ 

c. An Afl for continuing the Duties upon Salt, ind od 

Hnrings, to March 25, 1753. 
6. An aA 16 indemnify Froteftant Parchafers of Papilts 

Elun, &c. 

J. An AA to prwent the Sealing and deftroyingof Sheep 
other Cattle. 

8. Ad A&. for licenfing the Imponition of Vidual from 
Ittlud, kc. to Scotland, in time of Scarcity. 

9. An Ad to explain an AA 3d of K. James I. for the 
Kttorery of Small Debts, and for relieving poor D^ton 
iiJLoadon. 

.0. An AA to prevent Incoovenicnciea uifiog from De> 
liyiof Aufes afur liuie joined. 

II. An A& to amend the Law, concerning common Re* 
csMries ; and to amend an A&. 29th of K. Charlei II. Ar 
^Rfeation of Frauds and Perjuries, fo &r ai the fame relatea 
lo Elates, ftr auttrVit. 

Alio 10 II Road A£ls, to 9 other public, anrf to 22 prl- 
VttcAOs. 

The Z3d, the engrofled Bill for the Increafe and Encon- 
■Wtmenc of Seamen was rend according to Order, whea 
Mr. Digby role and fpoke as follows : 

Si «, 

• I have a Claufe to be offered to the Houfe as neceflar7 Mr- IM|hr. 
>0 be inferted in the Bill before as, which was put into mjr 
C&id) by a Member, whom a fudden Misfortune has made 
■aiUe to attend his Duty, and which, in his Opinion and 
^iae, is of great Importance, and I Ihall therefore take the 
CJbeny of reading it.* 

»• Be it enabled that every Seaman ofrfrlng himfelf to 
bne his Majefly, fliall, upon being refufed, rccf ive from 
fadi Captain, Lieutenant, or Jufticeof the Peace, a Certifi- 
^K, fetttng forth the Reafons for which he is refufed, 
Mich CertilRcatc may by produced by him, as an Exemp- 
EioB from being feiaed by a Warrant of Imprefs." 

< I hope the Keafonablenefs and Equity of this Claufc U 
^iBGoatefiably apparent that it will find no Oppofition ; for 
Nrfcat can be more cruel, unjull, or opprcfllve, ttutn to punilh 
kin for Neglefi of a Law which they have endeavoured to 
Itef . To what Purpofe are Rewards oliered, if they are 
kucd to tbofe who come to claim them ? What is . it lefs 
km Theft, and Fraud, to force a Man into the Service who 
iBaJd willingly have entered, a&d fubjeA him to Hardlhipa 

without 



( 310 ) 

Anno 14, Geo without the Recompence which he miy juftly demand fraa 

11.1740- thefolemn Promifes of the Legiflature." 
l/VNJ Sir Charles Wager. 

Si R. 
Sir Chirles * T** '1*'* Claufe, which the Gentleman has reprerent 

Wiger as fo reafonable and ju(l, ObjcAions may, in my Opinioih^ 

be eaftly made, of which he himfelf acknowlc tge the Korc^^ 
The great Obflruflion of public Meafures is P.irtialil)d*>- 
whether Irom Friendfhip. Bribery, or any other Motive- 
againft Partiality alone the Claufe which is now offtrred M: 
Uvciled, and indeed it is fo dangerous an Evil, thu it c<inn^^i 
be obviated with too much Caution. 

* But this Claufe, inflead of preventing private Carre- ^■ 
pondcnce, and illegal Combinations, has an evident Tcr^ - 
dency to produce them, by inciting Men to apply with pr^r*' 
tended Offers of Service to thofe who are before ruborncil c-^ 
Tcfufc them, then make a ftlerit of their Readinefi, and d^ ' 
mand a Certificate. 

■ By fuch Artifices Multitudes may exempt themfelvr^ 
from the Imprels who may be known to be able Sailors, eves* 
by thofe that condutl it, and may, under the ProicAion of ^ 
Certificate fallaciuuny obtained, laugh at all Endeavours t0 
engage them in the public Service.* 
Mr. Digby. 

S 1 R, 

Mr "DiRhv ' If this Authority, lodged inthc Hand^of tho-le who are 

proposed in the Claufe to be encnilicd wiih ir, be in Dan. 
gtr of being executed without due Regard to the tnd for 
which it is gr.-ir'cd, Jet it be phced wtiere there is neither 
Temptation ror Opportunity to abufe it. Let the Admi- 
rally alone have the Power rf grmting fuch Certificates, the 
Oilicers of whiJi uill be :ib)e to juJgc whether the Siilor ia 
really unfit for the Siirvice, and deiiv>.-r thofe whom Age or 
AcciJcrts Iiave dil.ib.'cd from the 'I'crror of ImprefTe; i for 
fureiy, hr tliat 1* fit to ferve. when taken byViolence, ij no 
Icfs (i'j;!:fied when he enters vo^unEarily, and he who could 
no: b^: ;>fimi;:td when he tcmicred himielf, ought not to be 
dnggc".! aw.'.y, when perliaps he has contracted for another 
Vo/;!ge.' 

Sir Chsrks Wager. 

S I K, 

j.;_ Charles ' '' '°' ^f^'''""^**- ^-^'^ proper to place fuch Authority ia 
Wii^tr. ^"^^ Ofiicuri of cii» Adni'-arty, th:;!! in any other ; but it doei 

not apptar tlir.E tiie Eenti;; wli-jh the Sailors may receive 
from ii, to wli itcv- r iiant- i: if criru;led. wiil nor be over- 
balanced by the lr<j'jrywh.chUx Public will probably fuffer. 

» SiiJora 



(3") 

• Sa!!ors are frequently levietj in remote Parts of the Anno 4, Geo. 
iogdom ; io Ports where the Admiralty cannot fpcedily U- 743- 

! informed of the Reafons for which thofc that may peti- Vi/Y"^,^ 
on f^r Certificates have been refuted, and therefore cannot 
juA litem Kiihout Danger of being deceived by fraudulent 
Account). 
'The Grievances fur which the Remedy is propored 
Blot frequently occur; fur it is not probable that in a 
Hm cf navut Preparations any Man <iua]ified for the Ser- 
ite Ihould be rejefled, fiuce the Officers gain nothing by 
keii RefufaL* 

Mr. Hay. 

S t n, 

* It u very poflibte that thofe Inftances which ni^iy be }jir. Utj. 
ndoced of Men, who have bcL-n imprefled by one Officer^ 

bs they have been reje^ed by another, may be only the 
Wtquences of the high Value which every Man is ready 
ifanpon his own Abilities. For he that offers himfelf, 
sdoobt, demands the higheft Prxmium, tho' he be rot an 
bh Sailor i and if rejcftcd, t^nd afterwards impreJcd as a 
rmice, thinks himlelf at Xiberty to complain with the 
cd importunate Vehemence, of Fraud, Partiality, and Op< 
vl&on,' 

The Quellion being put, was refolved in the Negative, 
■uA unanimoufly. 

Then Mr. Sou:hweIl offered a Claufe, importing, Thatw-jQujij-^i 
lSlilors,whu ftinuld titke Advance-Money of tfaeiVlerchanta, 
■lid be obiigeu to petfurm their Agreements, or be liable 

be uken up by any Magiltrate or JulHce of tiie Peace, 
Adeemed Defencrs, except they were in his Majcfty's 
ift of War. 

He was fcconded by Lord Gage as follows : 

S I K, 

■ As this Claufe has no other Tendency than to promoteLord Gage. 

tintereft of the Meicliancs, without obiirufling the pub- 

f reparatiuni ; as it tends only to confirm iegal Con, rafts, 

[ ftcilitatc.tii't Commerce from whence the Wca tn and 

wer at thi^ Nation unfc:, I hiipe it will readily be admit- 

i as we may, by adding this SanAion to thu Contrafli 

le between the Merchants ami Siilers, in fome Degree, 

UKC the Obllruilions whcrcwitb we have cmbarraiTcd 

de by the other ClauTes.* 

s:r 



( 3" ) 

Annot4,Ge6. Sir Charles Wa«r. 

II. 1740- „ * 

Ky\'\j Sir, 

SirCharleB * Tliis Claufe is unqueflionably reafontblrt but nut i^ 

Wafer. cei&ry, for it is to be found already in an Aft made fore; 

Encouragement of the Merchaata, which is tlill in For 

and ought, whenever any fuch Fraads are committed, t» 

rigorouily obferv'd. 

Sir Robert Walpole then deGred thae the Clerk vai^lMM 

read the A&, in which the Claufe being accordingly fouacf^ 

Mr. Southwell withdrew his Motion. 

Then the Queflion was put. Whether the Bill lor rb* 
Encreale and Encouragement of Sailors do pafs, which tva' 
refolved in the Affirmative, 153 againft 79. 

Agreed to the Report of the Wetlminller-Vridge-Bill^ ^ 
Ordered it to be ingrofled. 

The 24th. In a grand Committee, went thro' the Bill W 
explain Part of an AA latb of Q. Anne, for proridingi 
public Reward for fuch Perfon or Perfons as {hall dircorcr "^ 
the Longitude at Sea, with feveral Amendments. 

Read a 7'hird Time, and palTed the Bill for the better 
regulating the Manufacture of Cloth in the Well-RidiB| 
of Yorkshire : Ordered It to the Lords. 

Agreed to the Report of the Bill for better PrefervatiM 
of the Public Roads : Ordered it to be ingrofTed. ■'- 

In a grand Committee, took into Confideratiou tbe Pe- 
tition from South- Carolina, in behalf of the diftrelTed Inhir 
bitantsof Charles-Town, and came to Rcfotutioa. 

The 25th. Agreed to the Report of Vefterday'a ReToIa- 
tion, viz. Refolved, That the Province of South-Caroli'u 
has been greatly weakened by the late dreadful Fire on tbe 
1 8th of November laft ; and that fome Proviflon fhoald be 
made for the refettling the Inhabitants thereof: Referred to 
the Committee on the Supply. 

Agreed to the Report of the Bill for czplainiDjaa AA 
for AlTurance of Ships, and Merchandizes at Sea, aad for 
lending Money upon Botto'mry : Ordered it to be ingroQed. 

In a Committee, went thro* the Bi:i for the Improvemeac 
of the ManufdAure of Woollen Broad-Cloth, &c. 

The z6th. Read a lirft Time, a Bill for the morexafjr 
and effeftual Conviflioa of Perfoas returning from Tianf- 
portation. 

Read a third Time, and pafted the Bill for the better 
Prerervation of the public Roada in Engbutd : Ordered it 
to the Lords. 



{ B'3 ) 

II a grintf Comiftittee, took ioto Confiileracioa the Eill Annul 4, Gen, 
^b enUrging and xtgaUtiug the Trade to the Levant-Seas ; H- J749. 
' ilfo the feveral Papen and Accounts concerning the 
e: And a Motion wai made, aad the Quedion being put, 
tUr. Speaker do leave the Charr, it pailcd in the Nega- 
^w a Dlvifion> Ayes 37, No s 62. RIade a Progrefs, 
iMpracetd on the 8tlt of April ; then adjourned to the 
of April. 
'.^«M[i^/l. Reads third time, ^nd palTcd the Bill for fur- 
'7 ^^P^ the chwf Ports and He;iil-Lar.d3 on the Coaft of 
It-Britain and Ireland, and the Plimatioos belonging 
00^ for the more ejtaA Determination of the Longitude 
lUtiORle thereof *. Ordered ic to the Lords, 
f Adjourned the Report of the Bill for the Improvement 
'if ike Jkfanufiifltire of Woolicn Broad-Cloth, for a Month. 
Jtewl ■ third liine, and paiTtd the Bill for rellraining and 
F •vcflting feverkl unwarrantable Schenaei and Undertakings 
4ttc Plantations 10 America f . Ortlered it to the [.ords. 
Kctd a fecdnd time, the Bill for thf more cffciflual Con- 
|Bion of Perfuns rcEurnir.g from TranfporLition 
TTkt 3d. Read ■ liecind unit;, and comrnitced the Bill to 
Mrreni Inconvi-niencies aHfmg from infurances of Ships : 
MX Divifion, Ayes 6}. Noes 2Z. 

The 6lb. Read a third time, and pnfTcd the Bill cvrri-ible 
fte CommiHioners for buildinp WfiLini.>iiur-?]riHi>c to r;LiliB 
tt nrtbn- Sum of Mo'py by way of Lottery, tinvjrds fmiih- 
ia^thc faid Bridge, &c. Ordered if to tiie i....iis. In a 
teiad Commr::tie, tooU ; .^ ^^'cnli !';"^''on th-: Bitl to pre- 
Wttfome lnconvenic.-'iC:r: -uilicg fruni Inlurancesof Sh'ps: 
J^A rttd a Pctitior of the Corporstion of t^.e London- •'\frur-' 
aaec againil the Bill. And a Motion was made, and the 
fjnriliiT- put. I'hxi the further Confidcration thereof be de- 
fined for a Month %• 

The 7th Received an F.ftimate of the Cha-ge of 1000 
DMlifli Horfe, and 50CO D^nifh Foo: i Lritiiti P:iy, from 
MBrch the 28:h lall, to DcciT-ibcr tht 25(11, 1741. 
Vol. II. S f Alfo 



• Tiir BiUtKM rteia fii-fi lime, en February tbt ^th, Imt 
At 7itit ivai itUtrtd 9H the d-iri Rtaiing. 

■|" TWr Rillvjai rtad a firfi time, en Ttb>uarj the I'jth, 
isf tht Tit/e lirai allf c, -m ihi third blading. 

J Thi Ihuft JiiiideJ, Afti 25, A'ict 8; but fevtm nan 
WuwAtri btivg luawttJ tt ta.iie a Hvnje, •u:ithjut •mhiih thty 
amM mt froce/d an Bufiatfif tht Biii dropt tj louf/t, and tit 
Btarfitt^mriud. 



( 3H ) 

Annoi4,Gco. A'fo an Kilimate cf the Charge of i264Hcrre, and iSTCo 
II. i74'5- Foot, Hcffian Trcops, from March the zjth laft, toDecember 
L/ir»J the z;th» 1741, with the Levy-Money and Subfidy (or ihe 
fame. 

The Sth. RejeAed a Petition of John Meres, Printer, 
praying to be admitted to Bait without paying his Fees. 

Mr. Speaker reported, I'hat the Houlc h^ attended hii 

Klajelty in (he Houfe of Peers, where his Majefly waa 

plealied to give the Royal Aftent to, 

-^ _ An Ail to fupply fome Defcfls in the laws for repiirin 

JvetVto fc«-i^°""*>'*^"'^B"* ^'"' f*P»'"ng ■"d providing Houfes - 
nlBilla Corre^ion; and fbrpafling Rogues and Vagabonds. 

An AQ. to continue three former A£ts for Relief of Dela- 
tors, with refpe£l to the Imprifonment of their Pcrfons ; anif 
sifo to continue an Aft fur the free ImporUtion of Cochi- 
neal and Irdico. 

An A& for continaing an A€t 7th of King George II. to 
amend a former A& nth of King George f. for the better' 
regulating the Manufaflure of Cloth in the Weil-Riding of 
Yorkfhire. And to feven private AAs. 

Afterwhich his Majelly was plmfediomakeamoftgnei- 
ous Speech froan the T hrone as follows : 

My Lords and Gentlemen, 

Kins'a Speech " At the Opening of this SeOton. I took Notice to yoaof 
^ the Death of the late Emperor, and of my RetoTution to ad- 

here to the Eiigngements 1 am under, in order tothenain- 
caining of the BiUancc of Power, and the Liberties of Eu- 
rope, en that imporunt Occafion. The Afliirancei I received 
from you, in return to this Communication, were perfeftly 
agreeable to the Zeal and Vigour, which this Parliameet 
has always e.xrrtcd,tn the Support of the Honoar and Inierdl 
of my C'rov/n and Kingdoms, and of the Common Caiife. 

< 'I'he W;<r, which has fince broke out, and been carried 
on, ia part of the Auftrian Dominion!, and the varioat aad 
cxtcnlive L'1niir.>, which are piil)licly made on the late Em- 
{leror'.s Succeilion, arc new Events that require the Qtmoft 
Cflrc And Aitcniion, as they may involve all Furope in a 
bicotly U ar, and in Conftquence, cxrc^le the Dominions of 
fucli I'rirces. a^ (hill take Part in {upport of the Pragma- 
tic Siiflicji'. to imminent and inimcdlate Danger. The 
Q>:i:': oi Iluiigary h-.a cirrady m.idc a Requifition of the 
\?. .-Cf' .Mti., ixprtfiy fiij-jiiitcd hy Treaty ; and thereupon 
I Iv::--: /tmnrdni cf ibeKiiigof Denmark, andoftheKio^ 
of &■ .-^ti, .:. l^nilyrsivc of Ihfit:-Ciiffel, their rctpeOiTB 
Ui>::i'j; (.f i'i\T 'v, co;ifi;li.-.g o.*" 6000 Men each, to be in 
rciidin;;!^ v^ laau.r r.T;uwtUi to the AlHltance of her Hur.ga- 

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( 3^5 ) 

riaii MajeAy. T am alfo concerting fuch farther Meafurei Anno i^.Geo, 
as niy obviate and difappoint all dangerous Defigns and At- i^>MO' 
lenpu, chat may be forming and carried on in Favour of V^ir^y 
mj aajaft PretenfioDi, to the Prejudice of the Houfe of Au< 
fat. In this complicated and uncertain $tate of Things, 
auy Incidents may arife, during the Time, when, by Rea. 
At of the approaching ConcluBoB of this Parliament, it 
JB^ be impoflible br me to have your Advice and AiliAance, 
Vwh may make it qccciiary for me to enter into lUll larger 
Zxpeocet, for maintaining the Pragmatic SanfticD. In 3 
CMJoiiaare lb critical, I have thought it proper, to lay thefe 
laportaat Conliderationa before you, and to defire the Coa- 
Bmtnceofmy Parliament, in enabling me to contribute, in 
At moll effeflual Manner, to the Support of the Queen of 
Hoagiry, the preventing by all realonable Means the Sub* 
verfian of the Houfe of Aullria, and the maiotiining the 
lAeiuct and Balance of Power in Earope.'^ 
Gentlemen of the Houfe of Commons, 

" I muft recommend it to you, to grant rac fuch a Supply 
»Uj be requifiie for thefe Ends ; and the jull Concern and 
Kadioef) which I have conHantly found in you, to mikeajl 
MGcfliry Provifions for the Public Good, and ourcommop 
^tity, leave me no room to doubt of the fame good Dif- 
p^n and AffeAion in this Inflance.** 

Uf Lords and Gentlemen, 

" 1 am perfuaded, I need fay no more to recommend thefe 
Canfiderations to you, which fo neccAarily arife from the 
infeit Sitaation of Af&irs : I (hall therefore only add. That 
l*htever Expences may be incurred on this Occafjon, {hall 
* aaic in as frugal a Manner as poflible i and an Account 
tfcttof lliall be laid bffore the next Parliament." 

Wbereopon they rcfolved, That an humble Addrefs be pre- 
fiwed to his Majcily, as follows. 

• The Houiie on this Occafion prefcntcd the following A4' 
in&. 

Moft {tacious Sovereign, 
■ We your Majelly's mofi dutiM and loyal Subje^s, Che Aildrefs i| 
Conmona of Great Britain in Parliament aflTcmbled, beg Ktrturn. 
LfiVe to return your iVIajefly our moft humble Thanks for 
W Majefly's moll gracious Speech from the Throne; and 

• Cxprefs our dutiful Senfe of your Vlaflelly's jull and due 
Ecgard for the Rights and Intereil of theQuecD of Hungary, 
■d for maintaining the Pragr:ati': Sanftion. We cannot 
BC entirety concur with your Maj. I'y in the prudent Mea- 
im, which yourMajefly if purftiing for the Support of the 

S f 2 Commog 



( 31^ ) 

Unno 1 4, Geo Comnon Ciafe, &nd for the Prcfeiration of the UbcTWi, 
II. 1740. ^f^i the Balance of Power in Europe. We ackaowlidi^ 

^/"y"^*' your Majefly's Wifdom ind Refolotiob, in DOtfufieriag yoor* 
^ ielf to be diverted from fletdtly perftrcring in your jull Par- 
fofei of folfilling the Engagementl, whicK your Majefty kit 
entered into with the Hoiife of AHllria ; and do afliire yev 
Xlajelly, that io JuAice, and in Vindication of the HoaoV 
and Dignity of the firitrlh Crown, tfaii Houfewill cficAnaHf 
fbnd by and fupport your Majefty againft all JofDha tai 
Atucki, which any Prince of Power, » RefepuncM if 
the juft Meafures that your Majefly haa lb wilcly laka^ 
Jhall make upon any of your M^jefly'i Territoriet or Ds- 
ininions, tho* not belonging le the Crown of Great Britia. 
And we beg Leave further to aflure your Majefty, ifcu il 
any future Events, which may arifc from this nncertaa 
State of Things, and which rnay make itacccflary Ibryiw 
Majeily to enter into ftill larger Expences, ycwr lukU 
Commons will enable your Majefty to contribute, in tht 
moft effi£lual Manner, to the Support of the Queen of Hm- 
gary^ to the preventing, by all reafonable klcani. the Sib^ 
verfion of the Houfe oT Auflria, and to the maiataming itl 
prigmatic. Sanation and the Libertiei and Balance of Popft 
Europe.* 

The qth. Referred his Majefty's Speech to the Qmw^ 
tee on the Supply. 

The loth. The Honfe went toaddreft his Majefty at to 
Palace at St. Jamcs^. 

The t3th. Received the Report of his Ma jell's Aafiq 
to their Addrefs. viz. *• I give you my Thanks for ifca^ 
tiful and loyal Addrefs. Your great Readinefs in cMbBA 
me 10 make good my Engagements with the Queen of H»< 
gary, and the Afliirancci ybu give me, not to fu|fer my fh 
reign l^ominionsto be infulttd, on account of the Mcafuci 
I am purfuing for the Support of the Pragaaiic SeaAia^ 
•re fuch evident Proofs of >uur juft Concern for mintaiMl 
the Liberties and Balance of Power in Europe, and of yatf 
great Rrgird for my Honour and Intcrcll, that you Mf . 
depend upon all fuitab'e Re:urns from me, for Mt panictil> 
Klark of your Affe£tion and Cor.JiJence in me?^ 

The (.iiDC Day a Motion was inide by Sir Robert Wat 
pole, for granted an Aid of sco.cool. to the Queen of HV| 
fiary, which he introduced with the following iXbatc : 
S > K, 
Sir ?,nheit * t'he Necrffity cf this Grant appears fo plainly bM' 

|7aii'oIe the bare Mention cf the Purpol'ts for which Jt isa&cd. tlM 

1 an fcatcciy conceive that its RckfonaUeocft c&o he U 

f.tt^ 



I can dticover lo Prtncipln upon wMcb la Objec- AAnn 

)t)ii> M^ii'-ntJK be fou:td«l. Qor tbe wait Argamejitf ^ ' 
'h lurh I -(IrdionjCin be iupported. 
1 ib'c Ptiligi I >□»» cf public Faith, the 

..»ikti N>ciuM uc uaitet), and ConCKlrnu:t<a 
I ooDoc ruppofe any Man Iticlined ca iavitidate. 
I'cflormsocc v( n.'cional Frotoileit an iaviolable 
to h-.iXi *wi Tfeatie*. i» enforced at once by 
acJ ju.iictr, ami ail laws botbof Heaven and Earth. 
Pbblic i'rrtjy, Sir, like prirau Difhoorlly, mUatever 
»fKii*ty Afl**n:igcs iimay proraifcor prodflce. ib alwijri, 
tKr whole. Ute farcDt of Mifery. Everjr Man, how- 
'u^ nufi tometimei wiQi for a Friend t and 
., :.owcver poicnt, lland in nerd or an AUft 
■.*li A<tt.u>cc> lubllii u}>oa mutual Coniidcnce, and Confi- 
' can bx ^<.ui!u<ni only b)' uniaioied Integritjr,by kaotva 
fuaMcf*, '-iitdaiiprovixl Veracity. 

' Tbc ITc of Alliance!. Sir, hi*ia the lafl Age been too 
■■cb r^ ' 10 be con[ellcdi it ia by Ixagtiei well 

cMttn»L> 'i;lly obtccvcd, thu the W«k ire ddcndcd 

aga.iaA tbc ^'.run^., that Buuftdi art fct to the 1'urbulcncc of 
:icif" . :h»< thr Tnrrcm of Power is rell/ainrd, and Em* 
<1 froat ihofe InanditionsoF War thai, in Tor* 
jiJ the A'^orMioRoini. By Alliaivcei, Sir.tb* 
Power ii maintained, and thotc Alarms and 
I'i avoided, which mull arife from Vicil&iudci 
lid the FiufluitioDt of petpetual Contcft. 
lA tue lotereA of thii Natiou to cultivate tbe 
lip of tlie HcuJc ot Aallri«, to proiefi us Rights, 
it) SdCccjTioa ^ to inform it when miR^ken, and 
:wiien aiucked, is alloued hy every Party Kvery 
. i.jt the only Power that can fcnfibly injure 
QUI Lonimcrct:. or lorading our Doini' 
' ^^'. ■i^tinA which no Confederacy csn be fjritf 
!h ihe Houlc of Auflria^ tbac canafio/d ui taj 

.rll Bond of Allianceiis muloal InltttcS. Mao 
^lioK him whom ihcy have all Keafon to ftar 
tff whom they have beep gicatly injured, and 
mkora it>rv r;il[)cd that so Oppoituniiy will be loll of 
Mh£ hi> tncroichmrntf. Such i*lhe Sutte of thu Na* 
titm and dI ttic AuAxUfii. We are e<]uaUy endangered by 
ibe f reach Grcatfici'ii, and cqunlly animated againtl it by 
htr*inn,'y Ammortiics, and ContcDi conunued fiom, one 
Agi to anoitMt I we arc convinced that, however either may 
^9 flatercd or C4rcSed, whiJe the other ji invaded, every 

Blow 




( 3'8 ) 

l^ppo 14, GcD.EIow is aimed at botfa, and that we are divided only titat p« 

U- ^7^°t may be more cafi'y dcltroycd. 
L^'V"'^ • For this Realbn we engaged in the Support of the Pn. 
inatic SjA^ion, and ftipulaied to fecure the Imperial CTa 
to the Daughters of AuAria, which wai nothing moreil 
to promile, that we would endeavour to .prevent our i 
Deflru£tion, by oppofing the Kxaltaiion of a Prioce 
fbould owe his Dignity to the Freacb, and in Cunfequei _ 
of lo clofe an Alliance fecond all their Schemes, adniic ml 
their C'laimf, and facrifice to their AmbiMon the Happine^ 
cf a great Part of Mankind. 

f 6uch would probably be the Confequence, if the French 
Ihould gain the Power of conferring the Imperial Cromv^ 
They would hold the Emperor io perpetual DependeaW^ 
would, perhaps, take PoiTcflion of his Hereditary DomiBF''^ 
ons as a Mortgage for their Expence, would awe him vrittp 
the Troops which they fent under a Pretence of alSffiif 
him, and leuve him only the Title of Dominion, ind tbi 
fiiiadow of Empire. 

* In this State would he remain, whilft bis fjrmidablf 
Allies were extending their Dominions on every Side. H| ^ 
would fee one Power fubdued after another, and himleU -: 
weakened by Degrees, and only not deprived of his ThronL ' 
becnufe it would be unncceti'iry to dethrone him ; or Im 
would be obliged to follicit our Alliltance to break from hfa . 
Slavery, and we Ibould be obliged, at the ucmoU Hazard, 
and at an Expence not to be calculated, to remedy what k 
is, perhaps, now in our Power to prevent with very little 
pjilicuity. 

^ I'hnt thit Danger is too near to be merely chimerical, 
that the Qiiccn of Hungary is invaded, and her Pretenlioo la 
the Imperial Dignity conielleJ, is well known ; it it thers- 
fbre the lime for fulfilling our Engagements. ERg^genrotB 
of the utmod Importance to ourfelves and our Polterity ; and 
1 hope the Governmcrnt will not be accufed ofProfufion, 
it' i'oT ihiec hundred thoufand Pounds the Libeitio of Eu- 
rope Ihal! be prelerved, 

< Vv e cannot deny this Grant without sJling in Oppofitiot 
to our late Prufdtions of fupporting his Msjelly in hii £■• 
dv'avcurb to maintain the Pr.-igmatic Sanation, and of affiftiBf 
him Eo (icf<:nd his foreign Dutninions from any Injorics lo 
which thole Endeavours fhou'd expofe them, for how aa 
he without Farces defend his Dominions, or afiift his Ally ? 
9; how cza he mainuin Forces without Supplies ;* 



Mr, 



*'!*" II. 1740- 

/As ! have always endeavoured to aft upon Convic- ^^r. Sh-pt'er.. 

1/ my Duty, to examine Opinions before I admit 

ud to {peak what I have thought the Truth, 1 do 

£1/ change my G>nduA or retract my Ailertions, nor 

fmrrrd (rom repeating my Arguments when I have 

'tn fpcak, by the Remembrance that they have for- 

Kcn aofacccfi^faL 

Man when he in confideat himfelf, conceives 

fabFc top*rfuade others, and imngines that their Ob- 

procecds from other Motives than Reafon ; and that, 

^Ii at oac tfme to gain over his Audience, he may 

ifctttnl IB fome happier Moment, when their Prejudice:! 

IfedtiSpateJ, or their Incerell varied, 

ihr ihij Keafon though it cannot be {ufpefled that I 

ED the Refcntment which I have formerly drawn 

niyfellr by in open Declaration of my Sentiments, 

M iTjard to Hanoverj -" I Hand up again, with' equal 

\€mMe»Wf to make my Prote!tation> againll any Intcrpofi- 

I ift the ASiiirs of that Country, and to avow my Diflikd 

'At J^romile lately made to dc/end it. A Froniiil-, in- 

it. in ^^y Opinion, with that important anu iiivio- 

■La«, the Aft of SsttlementI A Promife, whicii, if it 

tuive been ioreknown, would perhaps have for ever 

Judo) from the Succtflion that illultriou^ Fanilly, td 

rkich we owe fitch numberlel's BlellingE, fuch continued 

feUttiy f 

* F*r be it from me to inlinuatc that we can be too 
^aarlul to ki^ M'lj^Hy, or coo zealous in cur Adherence to 
^nn ( onry Ic a^ remember that true Gratitude confills iu 
icai BcaciSis, in promoting the true Intercll ot him to viiom 
we are indebted; :ind furcly, by haziiding the W'clfari: of 
Gic&t Britain in Defence ofHanovcr, we fhill very liitlj 
conliili the Advantage or promote :he Greatnefs cf our Kin^. 
' It is well knuwn huw inccnfidcrablc in the Sij;iu of 
ibofci by whom ;hc Sjcccflitin was cllablilh'J, Hanover ap- 
peared, to cam^rif'm with Gre^t Britain. Thofe Men, to 
wfaon even their Enemies havt Icldgm dcnJt.i Pnife fur 
Knowledge and Capsicity, and who havi: bvva h 'o':dIy cc'c* 
bratcd by many, who hav^ join'd in thK U?. Addrelt, ht 
AorhoDcA Zeal, and the Love of their Country, cna^H, 

tha: 



. • ^!h.iiiig to hii Iftiag /«/ to the Trxtr in *lt Kr'^i 'f 
George I. 



Anlio 



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14, Gto (hit the King of Grc*t Britain Ihoulif 
1740. portJint Tcrriiorirs, which ve hive fo 

defend, 7.1 tlie lIa£arJ of our Hifpi/icU. It wi 
their Ocfign thai oar S>'ivrrcjgn eiigtoftV,' bjr till 
new Subjell!, a Care, which, hi they mfoiulil; 
would artfe from GniiitKJc for Dignity ind Pa 
rally coofeTt'i, OiDuItl in time foigt-t ikit Co 
Einh. on which his .4nccflarv hid rrfi'fed, 
Etedor of Hanover, bot as King cf Grcttl 
Governor of a mighty Nation, and the Lor 
taia'ioai. 

• ft WM txpreny determined, thw th» 
never be ioTclvcd in War fat the Defence o f tJM 
on the Continent ; and doutitlef^ the Umc ^o^H 
ftnin'd u) front extending our CorqueAi in ^| 
■which foroc Advantages might br rcwiv'd, oe% 
Allexpei.five srd haufdous M^lorei, for the U' 
Cones fi^di whnce no Benefit can be teafed. 

• Nor are the Purpofo. Sir, for which M 
demiaded, the only Ohjrfliotu that raxy beoW 
for ihe Manner in which it i» a^ed, makci it 
Ici.1 to delay it. The Xlinlfters Kive been fo Itttli 
to Rrfufali rdat (bpy have forgof whca toafliw]' 
and »[-<d the Treafure ol the Nation to h$ 
ihcra^ HbcDcvcrthcy thtll think ii ;* ' 
have dircovei'd fomc new O^parium 

• It is nrcrfliiry that when a Supply 
fiwwtd be infotm'd. Tome time before, of 
mjuir'd. and of the Endn to which it h tol 
every Mrmbrr may confidrr, at letfore, tl 
iltc Meii'aiei ptopofcd. aod the Propordoa oF 
Occaiion on which it is drmafidcd 1 that W n 
what arc the moll proper Mcthodi of ratfiogit, 
rnijut.'e with wh>t Wiilin^nefi bit CoflftJiecaui 
it. 

• Whether any Man b enabled by llti 
peiience, 10 determine all thefc Quefliont 
neoui Reflexion, I cannot decide. For mi 
myfelF one of thofe, on whom Nitorr ha> 
Facultiej. and therefore move that the CoeJ 
Supply may be defertM for a tew Dayi. 
pr«ik*d uponui, I fhtll vote againft k, b* _^ 
fully difcover all the Realoni for it, nor a!l tib** 
which it may producr, and I think myiiilf 1 
for wbat porpofc i give away the M 
ewa.* 




; a-* ' 
Mr \'ui*r. ■'' 

Sir, V 

• Wtucerer iciy b« :!-e Ni-.viT.'y ■:• ri--.:i >'-j :-f>'. 
ftigiaaiic S*aci.3n. ir »ai:;r*r :r.e •_■= ^i;.wr..- ^::^:,^ 
ml?M.i, cfwh-chi rc=e r.-j ,\',n :• de^.-.-: ^f<c^:-i. 
nocing :be Neg nft. ;.«:;-e;ci r:: ■•:'.-:,- \:~ it ,■:■.: ^^i-,. 
mxnEaemy, lo suihuzx ' c-r^ v.' n :; *i:v-.i\: im :.- 
hSj:!i:y of i>uge.-. :o girri.jr. Dsj.t..; .;-: w.-..;.-. ^:c i-.ji 

' The Eip<=i;rcy cfrrair: ir.irg i'rc 17-^uV i^: .-\;i.;:'a 
tkc Imperial Tr.rcrr. ic is r.o; ^t j-f.'Vr : rc\".;Vi.\ ;j 
l^n, becauie it does ret aj-res: t-.i: ji y ■ li-.i-r i-'jini i u 
a^rtog to it. Tr?re my indeed re Wr: ;■;:-• o; it\:;-i 
IMgni ard arftil M,-.ciii'..Ltion*, Wriyirs I'l-riu;'?. uvc.J 
■If to affr.ghtthc Cur: jr.:oTrCi:ie'. or :hi- I'.ir:; ;nnn: ir,;.i 
Gntt! i or DeligRS, which, like a Tiici: .-.:^d co-^r.^ J;,u 
f*y Day produces, ir.::ainerai':e Accii'tntj uiiy iJ -'il.it : 
■Uch may be diicuvcrcd, noc on'y bt-O'e ciic) .^rs i-.vc- 
Okd, but before they are fuliy fuiuici.! ; ::t< ! uii^ch theii.-- 
faeve not worthy to engros mucii uf uur Acciitiun, or 
ffCTluuIt the Wealth of the Pcop c. 

' T|ie Pr^-gmaticS-in^ion is noiliing more than a ScieIc- 

■m of the fmpcrial Dignity lipoii (he rlJ.Ii Diughccr 

if tbe late Emperor and her Son ; aiJ if (lie has i.o 6vn, 

fOB the Son of the fLcond JDargtiLtr; nor ii::s tl-.e Crown 

■f Great Britain, by engaging tu luitpDrc t\\y. Sin-'tion, 

^raniicd any thing niore tli.-^n to j^relervc this Ordor 

hfSocccflion, which ro i'awcr at preicut is endrrivouring 

b» interrupt, and which therefore at prelLnc rtrquirts no 

ficlence. 

■ The Oifpute, Sir, l}rtwe«n the King nf PrulTi:! and 
ihc Qaeen of Hungary il of a diiTcrent kind, nor i'. it vur 
Datj tocngngcin ir^ either as p3rtir.<> or JiKiges. lie lays 
cUm to certain Terrtiortcs ufurpL*.!, as he iilit-tjcs. fium iiii 
Anccllori by the Aullrian Fiimily, and ;llll:^t^, by h'ouf, 
l^ii Ctaim which is equally valid, whitiier ilic Qu'.'cn l)c 
laprefi or not. We h:ive no Right to limit hi:. jJuiuini< 
aR^ or Obligation to examine ihe Jiiilicc of his Ui-m.init' . 
If be J) only endeavouring lo g^in wh.it h*ii> ba'ii f.ictiily 
•ith held from him, wlrit Right have wc lo uljluud his 
Dulcruking > And if the Quren cin Ui-.-w a hcrctcr I'lt'c, 
fte u, like itll other Sovereignh, .11 iiln-ny t.i ni.iint>iin ii ; 
*or are we ncctftirily to crefl ourfclvis iiitu Ju'.-j^ci between 
SoTCrcigHs, or Dillribiitor> ct iJominiun, 

' The Contell feems to hive very li;t'c ligation i<: 'i-'; 
r ragmatic Siaflioo ; if the Iwing of i'.uUialuccccds, he u: i 
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( 321 ) 

Anno i~4. Geo contribute to fupport it i and if the Qu«n It ibh 
II. i7iO. itrxte his Dcfigiis, (he v/ill be loo powerful to i 
\..."/V%) AOitlancs. 

• Hut tho", Sir, the Pra^mi;ic Sanftioi were it 
of Violation, are we to ::;i!.ii Lp -lone in defence of 
o:I»;r N't'!.'!!'., equally engai;tu v.'ri\ oiirfelves in 
and by I'lea'.ies.fit Uilf tu look upon the Contetl, ai 
thoic Advantages ol Pcare wiiicli we irtHfcreetl 
awny ? Are v-x able to mainiam it wiihoui AJiltare 
ivc to cxl. lilt mir Coil!';')', snJ juio our Po;'cntj 
(ecuticn ii .' bopelef; i'r"jet1, to fpend what Cin 
icp.id, :inL lo fight witli (,tr[:i:Ety cr'a Difcat ? 

• Tl'.i: Liutch, whole Kngr-.j^.tmcnts and whofe fn 
the (-.MTtc ns our own, have nut yet mrit!- :;nv Ac 
their Kxpcr.ces, nor Auijmcnt^uijn of thi.ir Trci 
does a liiigle Potentate oCFjrc^L-, liowevcr united 
Alliances to the Houfe of Aiiilri.i. cr ..ov.tfvcr endat 
Revolutions in the Empire, nnp'.'.ii to roufc at the .-' 
of Alarm, or think himfelf oliji^eo to j>rovukc En 
whom he is no: yet injured. 

• 1 c^:inot thircrore perfw,i(!e myfelf that we arc 
up fngle ir\ the Defence »f the Prjgniatic Snnclioo, 
the Qianet of other.', or live "in perpetual War, 
Neighbours may be at JYacc. 

r < I (Ivill always think it my Duty to difburfe ti 
Monty v^'ih the utmoH Fiirfiinony, nor ever iriend 
the niotl jircflirg Necefiity, to Jo.id, with new Exj» 
"Nuticn alreridy overwhelmed with Debti, harral 
Taxes, and plundeP'd by aSrandiiig Army. 

• For what Purpole tiiefe ni:mcii.u! Forces are iri 
who arc R0«' preyir,g on the Fubiic j why hc ir.cr 
Armies by I ai.u « l-en we Oiiiy ligju hy ifcr. ; why \:- 
vatc iheff-irihcn of the War. enAdd Qor.icUJc'op 
to foreign injuries, 1 ?.m r.i lofs to JrEcimine. hurt 
Kcgr.rd Ihould he r.Tfd to ti:e ^zr.ai cticn c/ the i'co: 
ought ndl, during the prcJcn: Sr.i:ci;y of Provifioit 
jlarvsil by the Ir.crcrife cf an Armv, which iccmi t\ 
only toconlums the!ti. 

• As then :orc par; cl our prefent Experce i« in l 
nion unncciiLry, i ihill not c,-..T[r.bi::c to agcnT: 
a ni'w (jrant, for P;:rp'. i'es of which I cannot dilct 
they will promote ti.e Acvantntc ot the Publie.' 

5ir r>3hcrt Walpole. 

S 1 K, 

»JrRc.l.;it ' The Prngiratic Sanfti&n, which we are ngagci 

\C'.i.i>u.i:- fQftj i* lot CooHncd to the Frcfcrvdtiaa of tbc O^de 



( iu ) 

biit extendi to all tiic Rlgli:-- xji'C-.e IItjikoi AL-f-.-i:!, An-flrj.i 
is n-iw actaclct'd, a:id by .; i-rv i'jrinii' ir,- jiiLvny, ^'-^'.'4' 
ime of Weakntli and Di.'i ctii^u. s.i.Ci :!i a.'l.jic n;- C./'^ 
(lur Aiiiilincr. 
ihai others rqu;:!!)' cbliccJ liy Tscrry ;i.: ! ;>>' Ir.ir-f ll 
nd their Help en this lXc:ilir.n, fit rn,.if.itr, i-'.h.-r 
^h CoMfiirdice or Ncglir tiHw". i/f U>n--i i'rc'.iyii of 
porary A^vantngc, niHy, ■■fr.li?;-?, b!- t ;;c ; Lmi js it 
Excufe of a C'riiiii;, 1I1..E riu-uiio (r.[v,n.!>.'. i: !'■ 'u; ttiR 
jUrimina) r Will tin- f':i:i.li of l-'.ii:ii i:i i/hrr r.\ro(c 
in us? Ought wc not r*'.!; r ;j :ininir.tc iln-in by mrr AdU- 
ilf, inrtrtift ihcm by o,:r Esr.a^'.r, uiA aw.ik'jn them by 
orRrprercntatior.^ r 

' Perlisj'S the oiiicr IViwcr^ f.iy to tiK'Tn'o-l'.'cs» r'.r.H [c nns 

ttotbcr, Why flioi: o W:: k(.r;j liiri: Iri-r^tv »viiic;i t/reaC 

IHnin is violiitju^r Vv'i.y ihuuld we cx?'j!t; our.-lvcs to 

Unjer, of which '.ii::t !niv;;itv ?< ^ii-n. la celtbiMtd for 

Gangt, is afraul r Why iin-.J wc r.;.!; i:-;;) W;ir. i;i which 

Winol{ puweriu! Ally ■.•:r.ir.i anwilijrj; :.' -j; pin u^ ? 

' Tlius the Tmi-.t; A rg'.: iin'ii :, an Argu;:;en: tvilcntiy falfc, 

.hdnade fpt'cil)u^ (.r. y L-y Iniercil, mny be uIjiI [)y nil, tilt 

iae one, mure bcjli; !jn i 'nmcJi ti;?.n thi; r':l*, C>-'.\ o.ire 

tDrife in VinJication of U;"".!*; Rij;liti which :iti h.-vt- iiro- 

■ifedto iiiaiiiEain. -^nd why Hiould no: llic grca.ci; N-uion 

■ the firll that fh:ill :-\ow her ib'-.-mn Knj;:iv;:r.(.M:ti r Vi hy 

kttid not they bt: iii':>rL Ji!l^.i.-Rt in the I'Toiccition of a 11 

Afiir who have ini.;i in '.it: by its Mifc^.rri.iv.c ? 

* I am a'.w;:ys I'.ii.i,';^ to ns'lievf. t':;;'. no Mfni'i-r i}> 
AiiHcute ..i.Iccs iJ.c ;ii any loitinii IXb.iii cf Ai-'imi'-t. 
Whxh da nut iiiipj:;r r..:;cn!l to hiinisjlf; :ind yi.-r i[ i- i^ifTi- 
QUtocor.crii'i- th;;: nrv M.\:\ otn juij^ni: iii!i'..i.!f r(if;i;t\l 
VDn a P.'ORiiit.', rff.-.i'i' :;;-.■ i.mc I'.cr':'- '■: L-roltfo hy 
Uotber i or th:;: ^c 'n ;■: Liji:" 10 i'''!LTt d - I r.^'i' i \r. 
Diftfcri, brc-*.y:e ocin:r- ci-Iiti . r, w'; .c . n. .1 <."'.i.s 
BCiias equal ^.>U)n to cvtii'.. .'•■^'. :;:\'. ir.t .■■• i" ins .' ;i^'.- 
Ineeis nctiici. tne mmc li.-y.\i: It- n.- ti' ' ■■. ::. 

• ^uiely ijch Arj»L;i;.e;its ;■' il.tir •>,•;. --i.- ■.■:, :*';i-.l !;r.;: 1 
ConfutaticR . Riture Ac iCKiii.i.' .■■t Ci:v:.;i; ' - i'.i.t. ef 
oilieiF, we mult cither tir.n-e tii'i ''■^••y '•■.kw *'.i u lifjii:, 
•iiich Proof wiii bj a )i-.fiLi^.T.i lJi.vrte «■ i, .>..- ■: IV^cc- 
CW. or own lii.n ilicv' iil- nii jvc..;^ib'': ■■! i 1 v.-'^ : '■'■ '-n ivi*. 
"d that thtTtfcrT ivc j^iy :iii in'^vj- ,t ;;i.'ini .'] ■■ ii* iin-ir 
j^iiz-. iT.ii !.'.;mplc; aJ'^iciii \' v.!i>!i i.f m ]'■ !'■■: *.;;. 
''"i'y nir.kt: to the V-jniry yJ uur i^<-^-f/ I' >•■ 

in tiw prefrnt L-i)b it i: ivi,iiii;, iii:.' .1 ii;'i -i \iti(n* 

*B'«ft tSe Pcifcrmanccof th::Jr I "..UrCl , ;i 1 ■/ ■<■ i\t.\: y 

*he Breach c-f public I-Viili ; of :. i- riiin'. ;i.:.-. .1 i: {u><\>','< 

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jLnno 1 4, <Jtc generally be imiUteJ, would dilTolre Society, ind thrc* 
II. 1740. human Na:ure into Confufion, that would change the mod 

^-^'^r\m/ happy Region into Defans, id which odc Savage wcu'dbe 
preying on another. 

' Nor are tliey only prcpagating an Example, whick ii 
foRic diUani Times may be pleaded agatnft themfehrc!, bi 
theji are efpofing themielves to more immediate Otngmi 
they are forwarding Dcfigni that have no Tendency tatn 
their Ruin ; they are adding Strength to their inveterate £m- 
mies, and beckoning Invnfion to their own Frontier!. 

• Let us therefore, inOead ot hardeniog ourfelvei in Per* 
fidy, or lulling ourfelvei in Security by their Example, cm 
all our Influence to unite them, and all our Power to afil 
them. Let us fliew them what they ought to determiae by 
our Re(o!utions, and teach them to a£l by our Vigour i tlw 
if tLe Houfe of Audria be preferved. our AUiance nayb 
flrengthencd by new Motives of Gratitude; and cbli, ifk 
mull be that the Liberties of thii Part of the World be U^ 
we may not reproach ourfelves with having negtcOcd lod^ 
fend them.' 

Mr Henry Pelham. 
S I R, 
Mr. Henry * It is not to be fuppofed that fuch Membera of tki ; 
Pclham. Houfe as are not engnged in public Alfiirt, Aiould mcilt 
veryexafl Inttlligence of the DifpofitioDt of fbretgn Po» 
ers, and therefore I do not wonder that the ConduA of ita 
Dutch hus been mil'reprefcnied, and that they are fuTpcdsi 
of neglefling their Eng-igements at a Time when theym 
endcivouring to perform them. 

• The Du:ch hnve now under Confidcration the moft pi» 
per Method- of .iHiliing the Queen of Hungary, and nuiB- 
taining the Pi:igni;itic S^niUon ; it may be indeed jullty fi^ 
pcded from the Nature of their ConlUtutiGD, that thrir 
MoTii>ns wiM be fl w, but it cinnot be allcrted, that ibq^ 
break th*if i' g:.gcmciits, or dcfert their Confederates. 

• Nor i£ there iiny Reason for imagining thai the other 
Fiinces who h:(ve incurred the fame Obligation!, will hi 
endeavour tu pt-rlbrm their Promifcsi it may be eafily ca>- 
refvcf^ th-it li'me c>f ihrm are not able, at a fudden SumDOV^ 
to afford grcLit Alliiiance, and that others may wait tbc Re- 
sult of our Deliberations, and regulate their OinduA by am 
Eximp!c, 

• Not that we cught to negleA our EngagencDti, or «• 
danger cur Countiy, becaufe other Powers are etrher peii- 
dious or tnfenfib'e ; for I am not afraid to declaie, tbat 9 
tkit fhould happen, which there is so Rcafoa to rufpca, if 

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( 325 ) 

IIAe other Powers Ihould dcltrrt the Defence of the An- Aniou (Tto 
Iriu Line, (hould conlerii lo annul the Pr,'.ginRtic Sar.i^itoi), It i^.i , 
at fciK fbe Queen of Hungary to the Mercy of hvr i* nc V^^^^^J 
aia, I would advife thJt Uri.at Briuin ajonc fhciild pour 
Vkr Annies into the Continent, th>it fhe fliuuid defend licr 
■ Af <gainll the molt formidnble Confedcrncv, ard fhcw 
lUukinJ IB Example of CuiiUancy not to be lli.tkcn, and 
l«f Faiib not to be violated. 

I * If ic be then-fore our Duty to fupport the Pragmatic 
IflBQioD, it il now the 7'ime frr dcclarii:g our Rf-lo i::j..r.s, 
Fahei the Imperial Crown is ciaimed by a MuftiiudL- cf 
iCwfcutors, among whom the Diftor of Baviuia, a very 
[mwrfiil frince, ha!i, by his Miniller, notified his rrutcn- 
■OH to the Court of Gre.-t BritDtn. 

■ The tntirni Alliance between tiiis Prince and the French 
iiwdl known ; oor can we doubt tiiat he will not now im- 
plvecbeir Aflllinnce for the Attainment of the rhronc to 
whkJl he afpires ; and I r.ccd not lay what Ri:iy be expifled 
faa an F.mptror whole Elevmiun was pioiurtd by the 
forces of France. 

* Nor is this the or^y Prince that claims the Imperial 
Oown upon p!:ienb'e i'ii.-:er.ee», or whoJe Ci:iiiiis cihtr 
Vsoers may combine tn I'uppotti i; is well known ti.at even 
AcSpaitfli Monarch belicvef, himlclt' entitled to it, nor c:iii 
VC, wbo have no Communicstion with him, know wlitihtr 
kekn no: declared, to ■•ill tKe ether Princes cf Eurcpe^ hit 
KcfelaiJon to^flcrt hi-' Claim. 

• It is hr frcm bei:ig impoflible that the Preicriions o( 
AeHmfc of fiourbon ni.iy be revived, and tl.at tt.o* i:o fjn- 
gk Prince of th.it VnmUy fr.ould attempt to muni.c the Im. 
pemi Throne, they mny slJ confpirc to diimcniLcr :he Em 
pre into petty Kingilnm*, and free thtmli.ivt.s fruni tl.c 
Drrail of t formidable Neighbour, by erecting a Nuiribcr (.f 
dmioDtiire Sovereign^, who mny be alw!>ys ei.>urting the 
Jlfilbnce of thtir Protectors, iut the fake of hdrr^flmg 
ach ether. 

• Thus will the Hoarr, by which Europe hrj been hithrrto 
froieQcd, fink into an em^-ty Name, and we iIil>1! lie left 
loflaiid aloae ag:iinlt aM the Puwir; thnt prLf-:' ;i (^if!f!erir 
Keligion, and whole lnte:eit is cppciiic to that u! Crrcac 
Bricaio. 

* We ought, indeed, to a^ with the utmoil Vigrur, whrn 
Wefecone ot the molt powcrfjl cf the rcrormid i'i.r.i.ts, (o 
frr forgetful of the (ntercliof our Religion, a:> tuo-opei-irv 
with rhe DcHgns of {-ranee, and {o initnt up(.:i inprcvli,^ 
the Opportuaity of cillrilling the Houfe of A' t'l.a, as tu 
■eglcft ikc commoD Oulc, and opoi'e himleii ti hJ^ I'oie- 



Courfe of that Flood of Power, which it now id 
Floftuation, or {eems driven to diiFcreiit Points b 
Impulles ? How foon may the Dutch fee their 
tacked, and call upon us for the 10,000 Men wh 
obliged to fend them ? How foon may the Houfe 
be Id dillrclTcd as to require all our Power for iu 
tioD ? 

' That we are to leave nothing unattempted for 
rity of our own Religion and Liberty, will eafily b 
and, therefore, unlets it can be proved that we may 
fecure, tho' the Houfe of Aullria be ruined, it wi 
rtly follow, th.it we are, with al! our Power, CO c 
Obfervation of the Pragmatic SanAion. 

' This is not an AA of romantic Geoerofity, 1 
the clofell Attention to our own Interelt fhews to 
fary; in defending the Queen of Hungary we d< 
felves, and only cxcinguifh that Flame, by which 
fuiFered to fpread, we ihall ourfelves be confum 
Empire may be confidered as the Bulwark of Grei 
which, if it be thrown down, leaves us naked aw 
lefs. 

' Let us therefore confider our own Danger, a> 
her, that while we are coBfidering this Supply, w 
berating npon nothing leis than the Fate of our Cc 

Mr. Pulteney, 

S I R, 



( 32? ) 

ion and chat of the Aiillrian Family arr united, and how Annoi<,Ceo 
;h either mull lie cu-.ian>^cred by th; R-iin of the other, IJ- 174*'- 

therefore, I fliall noi delay, for a fingle Moment, my s-/"^^- 
ifent to an/ Mcafurcs that may re-dtablill) our Intereft 
he Continent, and refcac Germ;iny ooce more from the 
IS of Franco. 

1 am afriiid that we h;ive loll part of our Influence in the 
{hbouring Countrirs, aiu th»t the Nr.[r,Kof Great Britain 
tT* formidable than heretofore : but if RcpLitaticn is loft, 
i time ;o recover it, and 1 doubt rot bu: it m;iy be reco- 
ed by the lame Means as it was at iSrll obtained. Our 
sites may be yet equally dcilru^tive and our Money equal!/ 

Wtf nave not yet fuffcT'd, amidll all our MifconduA, our 
al Force ti> be diminilhcd j our Sailors yet rctiin their an- 
it Courage, .ind our Fleets are fulBcient to keep their Do- 
wn of theOjcan, an I prefcribk' l.imiiti to the Commerce 
every Nation. While this Power remains unimpaired, 
fe Great Britain ret >ins her natural Sj,''crio.'itt', and ailWts 
Honour uf her Flag in every Climate, wo cannot become 
>ic*b!r, nor cm any Nation ridicule our Mt'n.ices or fcorn 
Alliance. Wc may llill extend our Irfiuence to the In- 
I Countries, and awe thole Nations which we cannot in- 
c. 

'o prefervr this Fewer, !;;tus watch over the Difpofal of 
Uooey; Money is the Scurce of Dominion; thofe Na- 
■ nay be formidable fjr their Afli'Jencc which are not 
fidenble for their Nomhers; and by a negligent Profii- 
of their Wealth, the itiOl) powerful People may languifh 

Iihbrctllty, and fink into Contempt. 

ir the Grant which is now demandtd will be fiiflicientto 
hicr I' e Ends to which i: is proposed to be applied, if 
lieafTuredof the proper Appiicition cf it, I (h:ili agree 
E wirhout Hciitation, But thcigh it cannot be aftirmcd 
ifae Sum now demanded is too nigh a Price for the Li< 
ics of Europe, it is at ieail more than ought to be Iquan- 
d without f-tiefi, aad we ought at le.ill to know before 
Ennt it what .advantages may be exrcdcd fiom it. 
May not the Sum demanded for tiieSnppiirtofthc Queen 
{■egarybe employed to promote very ditl«rcnt Intetells ? 
f jl not be lavifhed to fupport that Power to which our 
Ml b&Tetoo long con:ributed, that Power by which our- 
Bbarc been awed, :<r.J the Adoiiniitration has tyrannized 
lOatCoatroul ? 

U tbii Sum is realty intended to fupport the Queen of 
pryt may we not enqi:ire how it ii to be employed 
ler Service * Is it to be fe^t tit for the f ayincr.i of her 

i\Tinic)| 



with this miglity Princr, »nd th.it to bring it ic 
bo the molt effcdlual Method of ferving the 
Qoecn that requircx our fiS^Rt\ce- 

* Why we ihould defpair. Sir, of fuch a R< 
I caonot perceive ; a Reconciliation cquJIy cnnd 
Teat Intereil of both Parties. It may be proved 
little UifHcuIty, to the King of PrulTia, that lie 
jng thole with whom Iniercils ircompstible, ani 
Irreconc'lab'e, hr.ve fer him at V'aiinnce, whom h 
fev profperoJS but by a Disiinution d his own Gr 
who will always prcjefl his Ruin while ihey a 
the Advantages of his Victories, We may eafi 
him. that their Power will loon become, by hi 
fuch ai M cannot hope to withltand ; :ind fhew fr 
•mples of other Prince*, hew dangerous it is u 
Strength of an ambit^us Neighbour. We inai 
bow much the Fate of tbe Fmpire is now in his 
how much more glorious and more .dvatageouf i 
preserve it fiom Ruin, than to contribute to its D 

* If, by fuch Argumfnt*, Sir, this potent Mod 
indued 10 at:1 ticadily in Defence of tlic commoi 
may once more (land at the llead cf a ProiclUi 
ncy, tiiai may contrafl. the Views and repfels th 
cf theHouleof Bourbon, and liter their Scheme 
laj Mnnsrchy into Kxpedicnts fur the Defence o 
nn (lions. 

* Rut in iranrsAiniF ihcfe Affltiri. W n* im* 



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dirert their Attcificn frcm other Qiie/liori', how many Op- Amoi 
(Drntitin have been loft, and how ohtn might wc h,-tw r*-- '!•' 

'and by War, what was, at a much greater £xpc(,cc, loit 's-''^ 

[h/ Treaties i 

* Treaties, Sir, are the Artillery of our Enemies, to which 
rhave nothing Eooppnfe ; they arc VVeapons'of wliich wc 

klow not the Cle, and which we can only efcape by not 

king within their Reach. I know not by what F.it.itity 

kit, that to trcatanij to be chcateJ, are, with rcg^ird to Ijri< 

[.tlia. Words of the fame Signific^iiion ; nor do 1 intcniJ. by 

^duObfervation. toafperfc: the Charafiers of pariicu!;ir Ccr- 

ttu I for Treaties, by whoinfoevtr carried un, have enii^J 

ahrayi with the fame Succels. 

* It is Time, theitfore. to know, ?t length, our Weak- 
■ftand our Strength, and to rcfnlve no tu::gcr to p t f::ir- 
WMFoIlintarily intolhcPow rof nur KnL-ni!t:s: Oar I'roops 
IftM always been ouralltlL Ncgc;ri;i;ors. an.! to them it lius 

KD, for the moil Part, ncccil'iry ?.i ]r.il to ri-f^ir ojr L.r.ii[c 

* Let DSthen always prcfrrvu our marti:il L.hjrj^ler, ■.:r.i 
■odcft ibe Praife cf pDliiic:>l Cunning : h Quality whicli, I. 
WGne, we fh:ill never attain, nr.d which, if wecouid obL.-iin, 
«bbM add DOthirg to our Honour. Let it be the 1'radii.e of 
IritOOi to declare their Rcfolutions vvith<;ut Kolcive, iinj 
attere to them in Oppc'fition to D^tngers ; let them be a^i- 
aSooM of no other ILlogies than thofc which may be giini-d 
Iv Honeftyand Co^rago, nor wi!) they then ever find their 
Alfin diffident, or their l.vr.emie& contcmptuouE. 

* B7 recovering and uHerticg this Charafler we may be- 
OMS once more the Arbiters of Europe, and be courted hy 
ill the Protei'ant Powers ai their Prote^lors ; we may once 
^Kwe fubdue the Ambition of the afpinng French, and once 
■OR deliver the Houle of AuHria from the inccffiint PurfuJt 
of thofe retllefs Enemies. 

< The Defence of that illullrious Fnmlly, Sir, h.ts always 

appeared to me, iincc I lludicd the St.ite of Europe, tlie 

Mvariable Interelt of the BritiOi Nation, and our Oblig:^- 

. llMs to fupport it, on this parti:ular Occalion, have aiready 

been fofiicientty explained. 

' Whence it proceeds, Sir, thit thofe who now fo z.'a!oi;ny 
dpoale the AuUrian Interell, have bren I'o pLiinly forgetful 
flC it on other Occaflons, I cannot determine. That I'rea* 
liti have been made very little to the Adv ii>t.ige of that F:i- 
aiOy, and that its Enemies have been Aifi't;rcd to iaiuh it 
without Oppofition, is well known, nor was it long ago that 
' k wai dctMied io this Houie, whether any Money fliould be 
bm to the late Emperor. 

* No poblic or private Charafler can be fupported, no 
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{ 330 ) 

Annoi4.Geo. Enemy, Sir, can be intimidated, nor any Friend conErmti 
^' '^4^ in his Adherence, but by a lleady and confiltent Condufi, by 
i,yv\J propofing in all our AClions fuch Ends as may be openly 
avowed, and by purfuing them without Regard to t«np«- 
rary Inconveniencies, or petty Obllaclcs. 

' Such Cotidud, Sir, I would gladly recommend on the 
prefcnt Occafion, on which I fhould be far from advifinga 
flint, an irrefolute, or momentary Afliflance, fuch Suppliei 
as declare Diffidence in our own Strength, or i mean liicU< 
nation to pleafe contrary Parties at the fame time, to per- 
form our Engagements with the Queen, and continue our 
Friendfhip with France. It is, in my Opinion, propcrio 
cfpoufe our Ally with the Spirit of a Nation that ezpe&i 
her Decifions to be ratified, that holds the Balance of the 
World in her Hand, and can bcftow Conquell and Empiic 
at her Plcifure. 

' Yett Sir, it cannot be. denied thnt many -powerfiit Ret- 
fonsmay be bruught agiinll any new Occafion cf Ejtpeace; 
nor is it without Horror and AUonilliment that aoy Mia. 
converfani in political Calculations, can conlider the caoi- 
mous Profufionof the national Treafure. In the laieditid- 
ful Confufion of the World, when the Ambition of Frasce 
hud fet half the Nations of the Earth on Flame, when n 
fent our Armies to the Continent, and fought the gcncnl 
Quarrel of Mmlcind, we paid during the Reigns ol Knf 
William, and his great SuccelTor, Reigns of which cray 
Summer was diltinguilhed by fomc important Aflion, ba 
four Millions Yearly. 

' But our Preparations for the prerent War, in wUck 
fcarcely a fingle Ship of War has been uken, or a i'ffi' 
Fortrej's laid in Ruins, have brought upon the Nation an £[- 
pence of live Millions. So much more are we now obli|^ 
to pay to amufe the wrakeli, than formerly to fubdue ik 
molt prnverfui of our Enemies- 

* Frugaiii), which is always prudent, is, at this Time, $>'■ 
indilpenlable, wr.cn War. dreadful as ti is. may be termed ike 
lighten of 01)1 C-iUmitiei, when the b.afons have dit^ 
}>ointe(l us of fire^u, and an sniverfal Scarcity .-ffli^ ihl 
iMation. F.very i>ay brings us Accounts from diffcicm Fam 
of the Country, and every Account is a new Evidence of ikc 
genera! CaUmicy.of the \^ ant of Employmen; foj tbcFosr, 
and Hi nvi rR'iTy Conlequence, the ^\antot Food. 

• lie tn. I ii Icarce able to preferve himfe f, cannot bea- 
peiltd to .tllM others; nor is that Mone) to be granted n 
fireign rcA'<:r&, which i^ wanted for the Suppoit of oar Fcl 
low-SiibJoii'i, wiio are now Ijnguifliin^ with Difeales, wkxk 
uaaccullomtrd Hardfhips, and uawhulfome Piovifions bifc 

brought 



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brought upon them, while we are providing againfl diilantAnno 14, Geo; 
Dajigeri, and bewailing the Diftreilcs of tlic HouJe of Au- 'l.^r^ 

* Let us not add to the Miferiei of Famine the Mortifi* 
atioos of Inliiltaad Negle£l; let our Countrymen, at kalt, 
divide our Care with our /lUies; and, while we Ibrm Schemes 
for foccoariog the Queen of Hungary, let us endeavour to 
•llcvimte nearer Diitrefles, and prevent or pacify domeUic 
Difcontents. 

■ If there be any Man whom the Sight of Mifery cannot 
■ove loConpalTioa, whocan hear the Complaints of Want 
wUhoat Sympathy, and fee the general Calamity of his 
CaantTj without employing one Hoar on Schemes for its 
Relief: Let not that Man dare to boaft of Integrity, Fide- 
Uty or Honour; let him not prefume to recommend the 
FrcJcmtion of our Faitht or Adherence to our Confede- 
ntni that Wretch can have no real Regard to any moral 
OblintioD, who has forgotten thofe firlt Duties which Na- 
IBIC mpreiles ; nor can be that ncglcAs the Happinefs of 
lus Country, recommend any good Adion for a good Reafon. 

< ]t Ihould be confidered. Sir, that we can only be ufcful 
toeor Allies, and formidable to our Enemies, by being una- 
■il|Mai and mutually confident of the good Intentions of 
CKh other, and that nothing but a fleady Attention to the 
yiblic Welfare, a conAant Readinefs to remove Grievances, 
uduapinrpnt Un>viilingners toimpole new Burthens, can 
pradu^ that Unanimity. 

■ As the Ciaufe is therefore neceflarily to precede the 
Bftftj as foreign Influence is the Confequence of Happi- 
Mfi U Home, let us endeavour to eflablifh that Alacrity and 
Seearity that puy animate the People to ajTert their ancient 
8a|Kriority to other Nations and reAore that Plenty which 
■Rf nife them sbove any Temptation to repine at Afliil- 
■ace given to our Allies. 

' vjo Man, Sir, can very follicitoufly watch over the Wel- 
fin of hia Neighbour, whofe Mind is deprrffed by Poverty, 
ardiftnded by Terror, and when the Nation (hall fee ui 
MgioM for the Prefervatton of the Queen of Hungary, and 
■noncemed about the Wants of our Fellow-SubjeAs ; what 
cut be inagined, but that we have fomc Method of exempt- 
1^ ourfelTes froiQ the common Dillrefs, and that we regard 
Mt the public Mifery when we do not feel it? ' 

Sir Robert Walpole, 

S I E, 

« It it alwayi proper for every Man to hy down fome sir Hober 
Mncif ki opon wbicb be propofes to ad, whether in public Wul^uie. 
U u 2 or 



f\}; rxpaciites upon the Danger that may be prod 
retiinling it, declares againtl the lead Delay, howet 
oafly propofed, and inforcesihe Argumenti which hi 
already oiE'red to ihcw hew oiuch it is our Duty an< 
to allow it; m:iy it not reafonably be imagined thi 
tends to promote it, and is endeavouring to convince 
thscNecefliry cf which he feems htmlctf convince! 

' (Bdt when the fame Man proceeds to Jiiplay. wi 
Eloquence, the prefent Calamities of the Nation, i 
to how much better Purpofifs the Sum, thus^emand 
be applied ; when he dwells upon the Pollibilicy thi 
poliiic Ufe may be maife of the national Tread 
hinu'that it may be aflied for one Purpofe aDd cm] 
another, whnt can be collefled from his IJarangue, 
elegant, entertaining and ptiihetic ? How can tii>1 
nioii be dilcover^ i Or how Oiill we Jix fuch tug 
funingi, fuch variable Rhetoric? 

■ I dm not able, Sir, loditlern, why Truth (hou! 
U ur'd i or why any Man (houIJ tuke Plonfure in he 
g'-ther ail the Argumrnii thit his Knowledge may f 
his Imagination luggcll, agajnll a Propofition which 
no; deny. Nor c^n I aflign any good Purpofe thi 
promoted by pcrpciuni Renewals o7 Debate, and b> 
titron rf Ohjcthons, which have in former CoDlcr 
t>ic i-Nn<- Occ^finn, been found of little Force. 

' ^Vhcn the Sytlem of AfTiirs is niTt fully laid o 
the SLJicmes are i:i p.irt unknown, it iicafy to raife 



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ons on this fide of the Globe; mvay of wbich fufier more. Anno 14, Geo. 
iBtBOBC lefs thin ourfclves. II- 174% 

* If at fuch a Time, it it more bunhenrome to the Nation V.-^V'X-' 
a nife Supplies, it multberemembered, that it is in Propor- 

ban difficult to other Nations to oppofe'thofe Meafures for 

vUch the Supplies are granted ; and that the fame Sum is of ' 

| i im i Efficacy in Times of Scarcity than of Plenty. 

* Oar prefent Diftrefs wili, J hope, foon beat End ; and 
Hihapift few Days may produce at leall fome Alteration. 
It it not without Rcitfoo, that I expeA the News of fome 
faccbfiil Attempts in America, which will convince the Na- 
te, thtl the Preparations for War have not been idle Shews 
BOia h e d to produce unnecellary Expences, 

■ b the mean time, it is neceflary that we fapporc that 
llMr which may be able to aflift as againft France, the only 
Ifadoa from which any Danger can threaten as, even 
'Amj^obt Fleet in America Ihould be unrQcceftrul. 

' If we defeat the Spaniards, we may affilt the Houfe of 
Mm without Difficulty, and if we fail in our Attempts. 
Jlrir Alliance will be more neceflary. The Sum demanded 

ElUi inportant Purpofe, cannot be cenfured as exorbitant, 
M, I hope, be.fuiHcienc : If more fhould hereafter ap- 
rMCcflary, I doubt not but itwill be granted.* 
■ 7W Qneflion then pafled without farther Oppofition, 

The i4tb. Received the Report of Yefterday's Relolution Votes on the 
teflw Supply, viz. Refolved, That 3cx},ooo/. be granted Supply* 
1^ Ibftfty to enable him efieiflually to fupport the Queen of 
IhiBry, and to prevent the Subverfion of the Houfe of 

^1ta75,952l. ys. 4</ ^ be granted for defraying the 
Chr|t of 6000 Heffians, from the 25th March to the Z5tb of 
ilMier, 1741 ! as alfo 30,205 /. 14 j. 7 </. for Levy Mo- 
Miaisg unpaid for. 

[49,608/. 6/. I / be granted for what remains pay- 

I of the Sublidy for the faid 6000 Heffians. • 

iThu 69,841 /. 5 J. 4/ ^ be granted for defraying the 

■^p of 6000 Danes, from the 251^ of March to the 25ch 

^ptoDMober, 1741 ; as alfo 251875 /. for Levy Money re- 

J aopaid for. 

44,569 /. 8 J. 1 /. be granted for what remains py- 
tlt- the Subfidy for the faid 6000 Danes. 

361I57A 19/. I </. 3 be granted for feveral extra- 
Expenccs incurred 1740, and not provided for by 
lacDt. 

Hat 53,995/. i3«. 4<iL be granted for mainuining a Re- 
■NM of Foot ni&d in America, confiftingof 36 Compa- 
n Hu i74i> 

That 



That 6249/. t6/. 4 V. three Farthingi, be gi 

, make good ctie JLofs fuflsined by leveral Mercfaaiit 

the Officers of the Six new^raifed Independant Cos 

Foot in Jamaica, by the Failure of Mr. Henry F< 

Majefly'i Agent to the laid Companies. 

That 1816/. 17J- 4/ three Fanhings. be g 
Richard Fitz-william Efqi Ciptaia of an lodepciid 
pany of Footia New Providence, to make good tji 
luHained by ihe Failure of Mr. Popple. 

That 650 /. be granted to make good a Ijofi la 
the Receiver General of Scotland, by the FaJIui 
Popple •. 

That 20,000 1, be granted for lecftabliOiiDg thi 
by Fire at Charles-Town in South- Carol in a. 

The 15th. In a Commictee, went thro' the BiO 
virion of Perfoo) returning from Traafportatioo, 
veral Amendment! "t*. 

In a Committee, went thro* the Bill for Con 
Perfons returning fiom Tianrporutioo. with feven 
meats f. 

W«V ^d '^^^ ^^^^- ^S'.^ *° **" ^'P"" °^ Yeilerday 

Uean& t<°"> >" ^ Committee oo Wayi and Means, ^z. 

That the Sum of one Million be granted to hn 
out of the Surpluflei and Evceflei of the Sinking t 
That towards raifing the Supply, there be i£a 
plied the Sum of 1 1.434 ^- 4 '■ '"'* rcmaiBiBg i 
chequer, referved to be difpoled of by Farlimowai 



Gnoti for 1 740» be ilTurd and applied towards making good Anno t^. G** 
' .pply griowd in thiiSciCon of Parliament. Ordered ina '' '7'"" 

cordingly. Ordered, ThJt a CUulc be infcrled in ilie ^-y^f\J 
i. t'ljf allowiog a Drawback ot all Duties on (uch Coals. &s 
I) b« died in the working Fire-Engines for draioing Tin 

Copper Mines in Cornwall. 
Agrm to ihe Rcpoii of the Bill for Conviflicm of Perfons 
MRUBiDg fioot Tranrportaiton. Ordered it to be iiigrcflcd. 
Tte 17th. Read a third Time, and paHed the Bill for 
tnctton of OfTcndcrs iranrponcd, unlaw/ully returning to 
imt Briuifl. or Ireland, Sec. Ordered it to the Lords. 
RcHlafirft Time, a Bill for granting to Hia Majdly, a 
5sM out cfthe Smkiifg-Faad, and applying oihcr 
towards ibe Supp'y of ttie Vear 1741 i and for otbcr 
fw* ibrtclii mentioned. 
Tbi iStti Read a fecond Time, the SiakicgFund Bill. 
Tht aoth. In 1 grand Committee, went ttiro' the Sitikiog- 

B.il, witli (everal Amendmenti. 
TW s 1 S. Agrtcd CO the Report of the Shiking Fund 

Ordered it to be ingroflcd. 
Thc::J Read a third lime, aod pa(I«d the fiill for 

iQKg to his Majcfly, one Millioa out of the Sinking- 

fni4, aod 51.022/ lir. 1 a Z three Farthings, out of [hepo^,i jvi?!^ 
(•cr, for 1741. Ordered it to the Lord>. girm tu inc. 

Tkz 3^ih. Hi! Majell/ came to ihe Houfe of Peers, ralJliii^ 
ad gire the Royal AiTcni to, 

I Ad AA for graating lo bis Majelly a ceruto Sum out 
of Lbe Sinking Fund, and applying other Sumt lowitds lh« 
loppd; of ik* Year 1741. ana lur tiie other Purpofn therein 

}. Ao A& for opening 1 Trade to aadfrom Ferlu thro* 
fti«i. 

3. Ao A(i for the F.flcaursgemeoi and Increafeof Seamen, 
Id for ike better and (pccdier MaoDiog his Majelly*» Fleet. 

4. An A& far rcllraintDg and preventing (cvcr&l unwar* 
InattbleScheiDes and Undertaking* in Amerjca. 

{. Aa AH /or ths Ptefeivinoo of the public Roada ia 

EMttod. 

^ Aa A^ for (urwying the chief Porti ami Headlandi 
i«atte CoaA of Great Britain and IteUnd, and the Ifliodi 
Plaeationt thereto Ixlongiag. fat the more cxa^it Oc- 
'tomiiunon of the Longitude and Uituude ttteteof 

7. Aa Afi lo enable the Comoiiflioaeii for building Wed- 
Mcr Bridge, to raile a further Sum towards ItaiQiing ttie 
i^nr, ttc. 
Aad CO one other public, aod two private Afii. 

Afxt 



jueans ot reaucmg our enemies to kciiod ; ana i 
and EarneflneTs, which you have fo katonMy fhc 
Defeace of the Houfe of Auflria, and tbe Mainteik 
Ballanoe and Liberties of Europe, muil give ihe g 
couragemcBt to our Friends. Thtfe arc the Met 
care to this Nation that Weight and Influence abn 
its natural Strength and Situation entitle it to." 

Gentlemen of the Houle of Commoas, 
■■ It is with particular SatilfjAion, 1 ackaowl 
Readincts andApplication, in rai£ng the Sappliei f 
vice of the current Vear ; which joa have done m 
a Regard to the prefeDi Exigencies of the Public 
you to be the true RepFefentatives o(my faithful C 

My Lords and Gentlemen, 
" I cannot pare with this Parliament, withoui 
returning you my Thanks, for tbe many emineBt 
which you have given me. of your Fidelity and 
to my Perfon and Government ; your fixed Rcfi 
maintain the Proteflant Succeflion in my Family t 
uaihaken Adherence to the true lotereft of yonr 
You have, with the moll becoming Spirit and Fin 
erted yoidelves in vindicating and defending tbe h 
my Crown, and tbe undoubted Righu of Navtfi 
Comowrce belonging to my Subjeds j and cnafat 
revenge thefe Wrongs and Infutu. which, conuai 
Faith of Trcatiei, hiul been committed agaiall bod 
critical a ConjunAure, you have fupported the nau 



._J ll L I .L- IT- 



. ( ii7 ) 

farliunent, fo it will W the Sub/eft of Emulation to thofe An'jio.i.GtQ 
wbieh fiiall come after it, l-'-ir^'^ 

" I will imaiediaiely give the heccffary Orders ^or calling f^^^sj,^^ 
a aew I'ariiament. Therf is not any diing I fet fo higti 
a Value upon, as the Love and AfFvaioi: of my People ; in 
wkkh I have fo entire a ConiiJence, tiiat it is with great - 
ttOiH&ioti, I fee this Oftportunity pt\t into their Hands, of 
ciring me frefh Proofs of it, in the Choice of their Repre- 
featauves. 

" On the prefent Ertablin.mcnt tlepends the Continuance 
of our excellcni Contlitution in Church and Stale; and in ' 
^ Conftitattooconfills the S::curity of the prefent Eftablilh- 
■at: Nothing can hurt the one, that will not, in pro- 
■Knoa, undermine aitd wcilcen the other. For my Parr, 
flc oniform Prefervation of both, and the Maintenance of tHe 
lefig^x and ciril Rights of all my SubjeAst have been, and 
Cftr fhall be, my conAant Care. Thofe who diltinguiih 
tealclves by perfcvering in thefe Principles, Ihall always 
lid my'Countenance and Favour; and, by invariably pur- 
faiig thcfe wile and honelt Meafures, we may entertain the 
kt irauaded Hopes, that, under the Protcdkion of the Di- 
fuc Providence, theHappinda of Great Britain will bepcr- 
pRBUcd to Pollcrity.'' 



A State of the National Debt. 



J. d. 



fie Amount of the National Debt on > ^ ^ - _ ,,,„ . „ , _ 
IV,,-A«.,i ..,, ii.« ^47,185.869101 



Dtetmber i\^ >737' *'*' 
KRifed between Decern. 3 
. ud December 31. 1738. 
Rud off within the faid Time 1,171,040 o o 



tcraWbetwecn Decern 3t.i737.> 
, aao December 51, 1738. 5 



The Amount of the Nationa Debt? /■ , , q,„ .„ . 
. on December 31, 173^, was ^ r 'j t' y t 

Iicrafed between Decern. 31, 173S.) 
, and December 31, 1739, Nili f 
Plid off within the faid 'J ime i!t4,833 6 S 

The Amoant of the National Dcbt?,> ,,„„^c , . 
, 00 December 3., ,739, was i4'^'»=9.946 3 5 

iKtcafed between Decern. 31. 1739,/' 
ud December -t, 1740, Nil. ^ 
hid off within the faid Time i36,ooo 00 



TIV Amount of the National Debt? , « ft 

BB December 31, 1740, was j "^^ 943.940 , j 

Vol. Vn. ' X X Pa-h- 




Particulars omitted -in theLa^ 
Sajfiofjy which did not occur 
Order of Time# ■ 



Mr. Pidtcncj' 



The Debate on tht Corn-BiU^ which tumi trt 
in November 20, and pajftd December 24. 

Mr. PuItcDcy. 

S I R, 

AFTER nil the Attention whkli liu b«« __^^ 
upon (he Bill now before ui, I cnoruii yet OMctfvefc 

fuch ai can bcnctit the Nation, or fuch u *ntl Doc pcvfat 
hx greater loconvcnicncies ttun iliofe whkb k is it 
to obviate, and therefore ai tbo^e lacoBmiencet i_ 
prevcnied by other Meani, i c&bqdc but <kcbrc ihu 
hx frcm ipproring it. 

* Our Aoceftoti, Sir, liare alwajrt thought it the 
Bufincrs of this Hou^ to much sgHinli tbr Cncrotcl 
of th« Prrrog^tiTe, and to prevent any Iacrra.lc 
Tower of the Minillcr, and the Merabrn h -- -'-r-.yt 
confidcrcdasmorc [atibfiit to ihcir Trui!. ni 

the Reprefcncaiiyei of the People, in Proj'or;;L , 

have coniidered ibt> greic £nd vitii more AtWHioa, 
profccuted it with more bivariable RcfalntitKi. If w«j 
ooire inio the different Degrm of Refoctttioa, wbick 
fcveril Aftmblies of Membcn Iutc ofaiainrd, tmd 1 
why fome arc remembered witb Rrvemm and Gl- 
and othrn never mentioned but with DneftstWB and' 
lempt. Mie flialt alwiys £nd thit ibeir Coadafi, with ... 
to tbia Tingle Poiot, bit produced their Renown or tfcciri 
fimy. Thole are always by the geccral SvSiagc of It*^ 
kind apptauded %» the Purooiof ibrir Cboatr^, wtefe** 
fttuggird witb the InQuencc of tb* Cnnm, aad ckdb 
demacd u Traytors, who h.ve ritber promoted if by 
fomhk Oraaaj fir {cm it iDcr«afe by flow Dtpza 
RdilhiKe. 



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a: rot indcw!. Sir, been ■Iwnys the Pnflicc of Mi- 
tonuke op«n Demands of largtr PoKcri, and avow* 
t Dilguilc, ihcir Defigtii of ex:enilitig ihrir Aotho- 
_l ioch PropofaUwtrald, in firmer Tnow, Jiivc produced 
afti)uenccs bm ilul of awikcoing the VigiUnce of 
BCn(, of TMiiag St;(picioiii againll all their Proceed- 
»od of cmbirratring tfae Crown, with Fctiuons, Ad- 
atid Impci'.hmcms. 
Tbey wetc tinder a Nectfiicy in thofi; Times of pro- 
«ing (heir Schenjrj, thofe Schemes which (carcel/ any 
kliaLller hjs forborn (o adopt, hy more fccret* Arcful, and 
at Mcthodii by Mcihodiordiveningthe AttcntkiEiof t|i9 
)b]ic (6 other ObjcAi.aitd of trukinginviGbi'e Approachci 
Point in View, while they fecmcd ro dtrcd aU cheir 
voari to difTercnt Purpofes. 

It (och. Sir, have been the ProoTi of tfflpltctie Confi. 

. which the 4dinlniftration hai recrcived from ihi( 

, that It ii now commcn to demand uoUtnitted Powers, 

to exprA Confidence without RcIlti£)ion ; to rrqiiirc an 

M:e PolTcflion of our Ellates by a Voic of Credit, or 

Direction of OUT Tndc by ao AA for prohibitiiig, 

tktU Pleafure^ the EjiportatioD of the Produce ot oor 

V -it loflaocci of uRcoranon Merit, of Regart) 

iVofpettty, unknown in forrocf Ttmei, or of 
immt (uprrtor :o ih«( of their mofl celebrated Prede- 
the prdcnt Minitlcn found their new CUiott to Sub* 
and lo-Trud, I an indeed at a loft to difcover; for^ 
-r XTsrkind may hare determined concerning the fnte- 
'oy whom the lare memorable Convenrion wu 
jliC... ^.. Lndcd, and coofinncd, I know not that their 
tm bai ycx appeared by any inconteflable or mmifeS 
;, whirh may (et their Abilitiej above Queftion, and 
.til Reputation for Policy out of the Reach of Cenfure 
Eaqulrici. 

The only Afl, Sir. hy which it can be difcovered that 
^ey haveau) Degree uf Pcncuation proportionable to their 
^loyuicr.ii, ti the Embargo lately laid upon PiovifiOni in 
by which our Enemies have been timely hindered 
iliing Ehcnirt:tve3 from our Dominionswiih Nccef- 
their Aimici and their Naries, and our Fellow- 
It have been rellraiocd from expofing tbemfclvcs tq 
Dferiei of F:imiRe, by yielding to the Tempiatioo of 
Probt I a Temptation generally (a powerful ai to pre- 
mier any dUlant Inoirell. 

But as Roihlsg n more contrary to my aatnral Difpoft- 
or mora unworthy of a Merabcr of tbu Uoufe thaa 
X X X Platiery, 



J 



( 3+0 ) 

fUtlery, Icannot affirm that I r.fcrlbe thisurefol F.-A\ed'::Li 
wholly to the Sagacity or the Caution of the Minitlry, r.or 
can I attribute all the h:ippy F.ffefts proJuccd by it to rhcir 
teiii^n Solicitutle for the public Welfir*. 

* I am inclined to belitve that thi? St^p v.ir .T^Jvifrtl by 
tiiofe wliD were promi^red to confider its Impcrtjnrt- by Mo- 
tives more prevalent fhan that of public Spirit ; ai:d thst tlic 
Difireof Profit, whuh imf fo often diftated pcrnitiuus Mta- 
furcf, has for once produced, in return, an E-tpediLiit Jul! -..r.d 
beneficial ; and it ha^ I'or once, luckily fallen cut, t):.it fr.ir.e 
rf the Friends of the Adminiltratton have difcuvercii th.i[ 
tlie public Interi'U wns combined with tht-irown. 

* h is highly probable. Sir, that the Contraflors for fjp- 
plying the Navy wi:h Pmvifions, conitdt;ring with tlia: A- 
cutenefs which a quick Scnfe of Lofs and Gain always pro- 
duces, how much the Price of ViiSuiIs would be raili;: by 
Exportation, and by Confcquencc h' w much of the .Advan- 
tage of their Contrafts would be diminilhed, fuggt:ltd lo 
the Minifiry the NecclFity of an Embargo, and laid before 
them thofe Arguments which their ov/n Obfurvati^t; and 
"XVifdom would never have difcoyzred. 

* Thus, Sir, the Miniilcrs in that Inflance of their Con- 
duA, on which their political Reputation mull be louiided, 
can claim pcrhips no higher Merit, than that of atierding 
to fuperior Knowledge of complying with '^ood Advice 
ivhen it was offered, and of not rcliLling Demonllration whrti 
It was laid before then. 

' But as Iwould never afcribc to one Man the Merit of 
another, I fhould be equally unwilling to detraci from due 
Commendr.tiuns, and fhall therel'urc fvucly admit, ihut not to 
rcjc£l good Council is a Degree of WirJoni, ut which I 
ccuid not expeft that they by whom the Convention wis 
t:;r.cluded would ever have arrived. 

* lir.t whatever Proficiency they may hr.ve mude in ike 
/itt of Government fincc that celebrated Period, however 
ihey may have incre.^fed their Maxims of dnmcllic Policj", 
tr iiiprovcd their Knowledge o( fori-ij" -'fi'^Jrs, F anoot 
»■!!( touL-fs inyrtif I'lill iniiliried to fome Degree of Suipi- 
ticn, n-.r crm preva;! upi^n myfeif to Ihut my fr'yuiand deli- 
\cr un the P'.ibl-c ar.ti myfirlf i.^p!:citly to their DireAiao. 

* 'J ii;;lr 'ligicity, Mir, ir-sy perhaps of late hsvc received 
fotr.e J:riLCjvi-men!s fro:n ior.gi.-r Experience ; and with re- 

iDcb 
of 

brought 




( 34t 5 

X hire hitherto entertained an Opinion that for this 
lofe only wc are deputed by our Cunllituents, who, if 
bad repoied nu Cor.Hdor.ce in our Care and Abilities* 
d h^ve given up long fince the vexatious Right of con- 
ig lor the Choice of tLepreicntativcs. They would 

furnifticd the Minillry with general Powers to a£l for 
I, and lat At Ei{e with no other Reg-rd to public Mea- 

tban might incite them to animiitc with their Ap- 
Ici the laudable Er.deavours of their profound, their 
;ent, and their magnanimous Governors. 
Al I do not theri'forc check any Sufplcions in my own 
d, 1 (hall not cDfily be rellrair.ed from uttering them. 
■fe I kiiow not how I (hall benefit my Country, or alTift 
ConncWi by filent Meditations. I cannot. Sir, but t^- 
! due the Powers conferred by this Bill upon the Admi- 
■tibn are larger <han the Nation cun fafely repofe in any 
f of Men, and with which no Man, who confiders to 
tFvrpofes they may be^employed, will think it conveni- 
EO taveft the Nrgctiators of the Convention. 
Nor do my Objedioni to this A£l arife wholly from my 
mfaeafioDs of their Condufl, who are intruded with the 
Ottionof it, but from my Refleftioos on the Nature of 
le* aod the Condufl of thofe Nations who are moA cele> 
cd for commercial Wifdom. 

Ic B'wel] known. Sir, how difHcult it is to turn Trade 
C &ito its ancicat Channel, when it has by any meant 
I dmrced from it, and how often a profkable Traffic has 
I loll for ever, by a (hort [nierrupcion, or temporary Fro* 
dba. The Relentment of dil'appointed Expeflations, 
'ma the Buyer to feek another M4rkct, and the Civility 
duck his new Correfpondeots arc incited by their own 
refl, detains him> tilt thofe by whom he was formerly 
lied, having no longer any Vcot for their ProduAs or 
r Wares, employ their Labours on other Manufactures. 
BicivBte their Lands for other Purpofcs. 
ThDSrSir,if thofeNations who have hitherto been fupplyed 
^Corn from Great Briuin, Jhould find a Method of pur- 
iaf^it from Denmark, or any other of the Northern 
ioBB, we may hereafjier fee our Grain rotting io our 
ekoufes, and be burthened with Frovifions which we can 
ker confume ourfelvcs, nor fell to our Neighbours, r 
te Dutch, whofe Knowledge of the Importance or Skill 
m Arts of Commerce will not be queftioned, arc fo carc- 
sprcTerve the Inlets of Gain from Obllrutlion, that they 
e BO Icruple of fupplying their Enemies with their Com- 
ties, and have been known to fell at Night thofe Bui' 
ebkh were next Day to be difcharged againll them. 
^^ . , ' - - < Whethw: 

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f 34a ) 

I Wbetber their Exampte, Sir. deftrves «ar I 

■m notable to determine, buticooebtat Ic«A tobe 

whether their ConduA wu niionxTor not, and wli 

did n(H, by a prefent Evil, enibre an AdTaotage w 

' faoluced it. 

* There are doubtlcfi. Sir. fometimes fuch Exi 
nquire to \)t coipplied with at the hazard of future 
J am not certain that the Scarcity which is feared 
preleot, ii to be nainbered amongll thJm ; but hoi 
midable it may be thought, there is farely no need 
Law to provide againll it: For it is one of tbofe 
nary Incldenti, on which the King has the Rig 
erting extraordinary Powen. On Occ^fions lilb 
prerogative hai heretofore operated very tScAiai 
know not that the Law has eirer rellraiord it. 

• It Is therefore. Sir, in my Opinion^ moil prud 
termine nothing in fn dubious a Queftioa. and ratbei 
the immediate Occ^iton (hall require, than prolecofi 
tain Mcchcd of proceeding, or eftablifli any Preced 
A& of the Senate. 

< To reflrain that Commerce by which the Nco 
Life are dilirilsuted in a very bold Experiment, as 
once produced an Infurreflion in Turkey, that ti 
in the Dcpofition of one of their Monarchs. 

« i therefore willingly conftfs, Sir, that I kaoii 
to conclude : I am unwilling to deprive the Nation • 
or to fuppty our Enemies with Strength to be exen 
ourfelvet i but I am on the other hand afnid n 
Commerce, and to truU the Authors of the Coove 

Mr. Henry Pelham. 

S I a, 

Jhlr- Pelham. * I am always in expeifUtion of Improvrmcntis 
lion when that Gent'Ctnan engiges in any Difcufi 
tional Quellions, on which he is equally qualigcd to 
his great Abilities and long Experience, by that E 
which enables him to ioand the Sentiments of M< 
ferent [ntereds, and that Intelligence which ci 
yicwt [Q diQant Parts of the Worid : but on this ( 
have found my Expc^tions fruAratcd, for he has 
without making any Difcovery, and faaraDgued 
illullrating the Queftion before us. 

t He hulatisAcd himfelf. Sir, with declaring lu 
ons, without condefcendiog to tell ui what DcGgu 
Dangers he apprehends. To fear without being aW 
the ObJe£l of our Terrors, is the Ull, the moft i 
i)egrce of Cowardice j and to fufpeA without kav 
I'ouodatioQ of ^r ovn Sufpicion; it furcly a Froofc 



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f Iliad, whtcli would not be app1:iu(]ecl on common Oi;- 
and fucb as no Man but a Patriot ivould v^iuure to 

< Helus ildeetl. Sir, uner'd fome very ingeniou; ConccitB 

the late Convention, has alluded to it with great L,uxu- 

of Fancy » and Elegance of Di^ion; and I mutt at leaft 

that, whatever may be its EfTc^s upon the Interell of 

NatioDf it has to him been very ben:.'iicial ; as it has fup^ 

yW him witb a SubjeA of Raillery when other Topics be* 

Cto &il liim, and given Opportunity for the Exercife of 
Wit which beg<-in to languiih for want of Einploymcnc. 

• What CooneAion his wonderfaV Sagacity has difcovered 
IwcRi the Convention and a Corn bill, I cannot yet fully 
liaprrbend, but have too high an Opinion of his Abilities 
IliBi^ne thatfo many Infinuations are wholly without nny 
laAn to fupport them. 1 doubt not therefore, Sir, but 
tewltta fome fitter Opportunity lh;ill prefent itfelf he will 
Utar tbclr Refemblance, and branch out the Parallel between 
IIb uto • thoufand Particulars, 

• Tn the mean Time, Sir, it may be proper for the Houfe 
Mi^editethe Billagainlt which rio Argument has yet lieen 
inliced, and which is of too much Importance lo bedelity' 
dkf Raillery orlavcilives. 

Mr Sandy*. 
Sin. 

■ The Bill before ui as it is of too much Importance, to Mr. 
kl^igently delayed, is liUewile too dan^eious to be pre- 
CfilalEly harried into a Law. 

■ Itlus been always the I*/a£liceof this lloufe toconfidcr 
Mbncjr-Bills with p-nrticuiar Attention, becaufe Money is 
Fbwer in almoll the highelt Degree, and ought not there- 
fat to be given but upon llr.ing A/TuratiCC', that it will be 
a|rioyed tor the Purpofcs for which it i^ di:iiLitidi-d, and [hat 
Am Purpofes arc in thcmfeives jull. 

• But if we confider, Sir, the Bill now bcrforc u<i, it will 
bpenr yet more than a Money-Cill ; it will be fojod a Bill 
■r regulating the Difpolklof that, which it is the great Ufe 
If Money to procure, and is tbcrefuie not to be pnllcJ itito a 
Ijnr without a clofc At^cntiun to every Circutijthmce that 
■ly he combined with it, and an accurate Ex.imination of 
■Q the Confequences that may be produced by it. 

* Some of thefe Circumflances ur Confe^uences, it is tin 
Ai^of every Member to lay before the Houliej and I fhall 
iMlore propofe, that the Inducements to the Difcovcry of 
ny Proriflons illegally exported, and the Manner of k-vy. 
^thi Forfeiture, may be panicularlyd ifcufll'd { for by a 
Kfeainthu Part, tfae Regulation lately clUbliQicd by tl-.e 

Kcgcncy, 



Idlenefs prompted him to matntaiD bis Family t 
more eafy than that of daily Labour, was delight 
ProfpeA of growing Rich on a ludden by a iac 
All the Seditious and the Profligate combined i 
the Welcome Empioymcnt of Violence and R 
when they had once raifed their Expeflations, tl; 
imall Danger, lell their Impatience ofDifappointi 
determine them to conclude, that Core, where 
was deiigned tor Exportation, and to fcize it a 
Prize. 

' Thus, Sir, by an imprudent Regulation, was e 
Property brought into Hazard, and his Perfon i 
the Inlults of a hungry, a rapacious, and un 
Rabble, let loofe by a public Proclamation, and i 
to fearch Houfes and Carriages by an imaginary 1 

* That we may not give Occafion to Violence ai 
of the fame kind, lei us carefully conftder the Mtal 
are propofed before we determine upon their Pro| 
pats no Bill on this important Occafion without fa 
ration as may leave us nOEhisg to change or to rep 

Mr. Earl. 

S I F, 

Mr. Earl. * Nutwith Handing the Dangers wliich hare b 

fentcd as lilcely lo ariie from any Error in the [ 
of ttiis great Aff^r, I cannot but declare my Opi 
no Dei^y oufjht to be admitted, and that not eve 



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^liRiitiei equilly to be dreadcJ with the Conrrquencr; of 
iTOtrafting our Debates upon it, equal to die Mjierics of <i 
rsRiine. or the Danger of enabling our Enemies co llorc 
dttir MgAzincs, to equip their Fleets, and viftunl tticir 
Gftrrj 'iins. 

* ]f it could be irragined that there wis in this Hruis a 

UijcCl of France or Sp-iir. ZL-a:oi s fur ihe S-rvice of liis 

Princef and tlie Prol'perity of his Country. I fii ■■■Id txpeft 

Ah be would fummon ail hit Facu'ties to rc-.d [li Pro- 

pcft of this Bill, that he would emp!oy all hi^ Sophiltry 

tobew its Inconveniency und Imperfjclion*. and •exnaull 

kilUvention to fuggcll the Dangers of Haiie ; and certainly 

Im could do nothing* that would more efFcftually pr'imote 

Ae laierell of his Countrymen, or tend more to eniecble 

Wdeprtrs the Power of the firitilli Nation, 

. * If this would naturally be the Condud of an Enemy, it 

W liDRrffary to prove that we can on!y be uft.- by ading 

jH OppofittOQ to It, and 1 think it luperfluou; to vindicate 

'Wf Ardour tor promoting this Hill, when it ii evident that 

lilbDib^ wculd be plcaling to the Spaniard. 

Mr. • Barrel. 
* Si«. 

t' If tkia Law be necclTiry at any Time, it cannot now Mr. Barrel. 
dihy'd, for a few Days Ip, nt in Deliberation may make 
_^ilcfiftual, and that Evil may be palt of which we lie 
PtaiCDncriving the Prevention. 

'..% ' Thv many Contrads, Sir, for the Exportation of Pro* 
^^Ou are already made in all the iVfjriiinie Parts tif ihe 
Wi hgdonii ii generally known ; snd it requires no great Sj- 
Iwiy to difcover th^it thofc by whom they are made, and 
*Mde with a View of immente Prcfit. are dcfirous that they 
^>7 be executed j and that they will (uon compltac the 
^Mccaiioo of them, when they are alitrmed with tie Appre- 

Elion ofa Bill which in a few Days miy.take fum tii^m 
Power ofexporting what they have already coHefled, and 
■Jk iheir Gain from them when it i>almr>(t in their Hands. 
^* A Bill for tbel'e PurpolcJ, Sir, ought to fa't upon the 
^^Ira&ori like a I'uddcn Blow, of which they have no Warn- 
^|(v Dread ; againlt which they ihciefore cannot provide 
'^ Secnrity, and which tht-y can neither elude nor refiii. 
i* If we allow them a fhsri 'I'ime, our Expedients wiU be 
** little Benefit cu the Nation, wl.icb isrvcry D^y impi>- 
^fii'd by the Exportation of the NecviTinei of Life, in 
^li Quantities, that in a few Weeks the Law, if it be p^if- 
VoL. V'il. Y y led 



Smb-Oovtffiiur tf tbi Souti.' S*'a Csii^'anft 



( 346) 

fed, may be without Penalties, (or there will be no ToSShi. 

Ihy of difobcying it.' 

Sir John Barnard. 

S I R, 

Sir John * I cannot difcover the Necefiity of prcflifig the Bill witli 

Barnard. fuch Precipitation, as mult neceil'arity exclude miny ufeful 

Confiderations, and may produce Errors extremely dange- 
rous ; for I am not able to conceive what Inconveniencies 
canarife from a Qiort Delay. 

( The Exportation of Proviftons from Ireland is at prefent 
flopped by the Proclamation : and the fieef which was de- 
figned for other Nations, has been prudently bought up by 
the Contraflors, by which thofe Murmurs have been in a 
great Meafure obviated, which naturally arife from Dilap* 
pointmcDts and Loflcs. 

' There is therefore. Sir, no Danger of Exportation! 
from that Part of our Dominions, which is the cJiief Market 
for Provilions, and from whence our Enemies have been 
generally fupplicd: In Great Britain there is left Danger 
of any fuch pernicious Traffic, both bcciufc the Scarcity 
heft has raifed all Provifions to a high Price, nnd becauw 
Merchants do not immediately come to a new Market. 

' The Bill, at leall, ought not to be paflcd without Re- 
gard to the general Welfare of our Fctlow-SubjeQs, nor 
without an attentive Confideration of thofe Petitions which 
have been prefcnted to us ; Petitions not produced b^ 
panic Apprehenfions of imaginaiy Dangers, or diftant Pro- 
Ipcits of Inccnveniencies barely poflible, but by the certain 
Forefight of immediate Calamities, the total DeHruflion of 
Trade, and the fuddcn Dcfotation nf flourilhing Provinces. 

' By prohibiting the Ex porta t tun of Rice, we fliall. Sir, 
jn one Year, reduce the Colony of South Carolina below tbc 
Poflibiticy of fubfilling i the chief ProduA of that Country, 
the Prodijfl which induced us originally to plant ir, ana 
with which all its Trade i: carried on, is Rice. With Rice 
rhe Inhabitants of that Province purchafe all the other Nc- 
cefTaries of Life, and among them the Manu&£lurcs of oar 
own Coimtry. This Rice is carried by our Merchants to 
other Parts of Europe, and fold again for large Profit. 

' That this Trade is very important appears from the 
Number of Ships which it employs, and which, without 
1,nding. muft rot in the Harbours, if Rice be not excepted 
from the general Prohibition. Without this Exception, Sir, 
it is not eafy to fay what Numbers, whofe Stations appear 
|. very different, and whofe Employments have no vifible Re- 

^^ iation to each other, will be at once inTotvcd in Caltnity, 

reduced 



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wdaccd to ftidden Dinrrft, sod obliged to feek new Mctlit 
.- . ,r.-.^rrirg ibcir F;imilics. The SaiJor. tbe ^'Iercha^ti] 
.'.ht, titC Manu&iHarer, with all ilie Subonlina-J 
pluymenl thu( depend upon ihm, all that fu|: 
diem with Materiih, or receive Advaongr from [hctM 
almoft att the Subjefli of the BriciAi CrQ»B mt ~ 
at lo(t in fotne OrgrL-e, by the Ruin cfCaroltna. 
' <r otiglil the Danger of the Sugar Iflands, anJ othei 
CI, lefs [4 ilLrm our Apprehenfiom, excite our Co mil 
ar employ our Con (i deration, fince Dothing is more 
limn ibat, by paiLng this Bill without the Excepiicmt 
: rciitioDi propose, u'c [lull reduce one Pirt of 
. J to the Want of Bread, and confine the other to 
sn cochingeifej for they fubfiii by the Exchsr-ge of 
fioduftt :o which the Soil of each Country ii pcoi- 
ptcd : One Province aftord* no Corn, and the other 
Ms Inhibitsnii with Corn only. 
The NccefBiy of expediting this Bill, howevei it hat 
faeea exa^gcrued. it not To urgent but that we may be al< 
lowed 1'inne fttfiicictit to conrider for what Purpofe a n to 
paiTvd, and to rccotlc£l that notbiog it dcfigncd by it. but 
.9 £tndcr o*jr Enetnici tsom being fupplied (rem the BritiHi 
aiinion:with ProviEont, by which they might be enabled 
ore pftwcrfally 10 carry OD the War agaioft ut. 

To this DelJgii no Objedion has been made, but it i* 
^■■n Icaowfl, ihm a goorf Knd may be defeated by nnabfuni 
Choke of Mcaaa: and I >m an abl: to diftovcr how we 
flnll inoeale our own Strength* or diminifli that of our 
B*cmi«r. by compelling one Part ofoar fcllow-Sabjc£l> to 
ftuve the other. 

■ It U ii«nTiry, Sir, tn prohibit the Exportation or Corn 
to the Pottj <.fc^UT Eneitiie*, and of thofc Nanoni liv whicll 
cMT Eftemio will befupptreJ, bjtfurcly it ii of noUfc toex- 
cturic iny Part of our own Oominions frotn the Privilege of 
£ fuppIicJ from another. Nor can any Argnmcn; be 
in Defence of inch a Law, that wilt not prove, with 
r4«al Force, that Corn ought to remain in the fime Granaries 
wnciv it ti DOW laid, that all the Aliikm in ihit Kingdom 
Aiould be fufpcnded , and that no MaufllOilld be allowed to 
Ml Bread trj ;inoihef. 

• Tbert i), indeed. Sir. a Poflibility that the Liberty for 
wbkli I contend may be ufed to wicked Purpofcj, md that 
f<M»e Men may be incited by Po/erty or Avarice to carry the 
F.oemy thole Provifioni, which they pretend to export to 
BTitifh Province!. Bnt if we are to rcfulccvrry Power that 






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fvcTV Man that has the Power of AAion, maj' fometimn 

aam. 

' It is, btiwcver, prudent to obliru£t criminal Actrmpis 
even w).t-n wc r^'u^oc liupc entirely to defeat them, and 
thcri'fc^ic I am o( Opitiign, that no Proviflon; oueht lo be 
^xporteJ wiihoui luine i>lechud of Security, by which the 
Governors ut cvi*:-/ ['i.>ce may be DfTured that they will be 
convi'yed tooui otMi Loloni:-s. Such Securities will r.-iri?y be 
conti''Vt;<l. anJ mity be K'gulated in 3 Manner that they Ihall 
nut bebCfV:<tt;ii v^ithout fuch IJaziri), Hb the Frotii ihut can bs 
cxptcled I'lCiin illegal ConiiiiCfCc:, will not be able lo cam- 
pen Ip.tc. 

It I; thcrcf jre, S'r, proper to deliy the Bil fo long at Itaft 
a: th.t we pi.iv proiucr: by it the Hdds intemicd, snd ciiltrrfi 
our Enemiej iiK)7e tl:an curfelvc* : that we may fecurc Plenty 
{i; Heme, vv'itliouc the Dertruflioii of our 'diUmit Cclonict, 
and without ob iglng Part cf our FtlloW-Subje^U todcfcri U 
^he Spaniards fur Want of Bread.' 

Mr. Buivies. 

V- Ii.3?lca. ' '^'^^ NcccSty of excepting Rice from the genenl Pro* 
""" hibitian is net on!y ful^ciently evinced by the i^geni* of 

South CarclinSj but cunrirmed beyond Cuntroverfy or Doubt 
by the Petition ol the Merchants of fiiiliol, of which the 
judice and Rcufonr.Llcnels appears at the Aril View to every 
Wan acquaintiJ with ilic No'.ure of Commerce. 

' How much the Prov.nceof S'ufh Cirolina will bedif- 
trelTcd by thij Pioiiibition, how ludL'er.ly the whole Trade of 
that Country will b>; at a Stnr.i!, and how immciliately the 
Want of many of the NccefTuries of Lile wilj be felt ever a 
very coiiiideiab'c P^it of the liiiciili Dominion*, haialreicj, 
S^r, been vi.ry p.ithctically reprelcnted, and very clearly ex- 
plained, nor does there need bny other Arguments to pcr- 
iuadc us to allow the Kxporl'ition of Kicc. 

* But, from the Petition of the Merchants of Briftolit ip- 
peari, that thtre (.re other Ke;i!or.s cf tquai Force for this In- 
dulgence, and I hat our Regird for the In habitants ot th>t par- 
t'.cu!;.r Province, ho;.vevei ncceiLry ardjull, i& not ihc only 
AiOLi^c loi ccmpiying with their Rcquclt. 

f ]tif. ilicv.n. Sir, in this Fttition, that the Prohibition of 
JliLc win tety li:tle incommoiie o-ir Enemies, or retard their 
P/' p^rntlons ; fur they ;.re not accuiiumed to be fnpplird 
V. .~ii it :rom uur Piant<itipn5. We ought, therefore, not to 
lo-d 0^1 I'ellow-SubjkiAs with Cnibarrafmcnts and Inconve- 
i:iciicics, which WiU not in any Degree extend cocor fne- 



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k s|»ptan. Sir. net only chat a very impomnt Put 
. rnaiercc wDl be obftruflid. but ihii it will proKablf < 
b«yoiiil RtCiiMry ; far, at ooly a fmall Quaotiiy of 
c of LKroIin^ ij conCunicd at Hcunr, and itte rell ii 
to aU'Ct CouBfio, ]t 15 eafy to conceive chit ihors 
lU oc J>rjipfM>n<rtl by our Mercbtmi will procure (a' 
y a ConKiiiAlity fota other Placci,u there are niRny' 
rhich ic miy bccaiiiy purcha^cdt and it is well knuwa 
Trade, if k be once diverted, is not to be recalled, and' 
Lbal Ti^Je wtu<:h m»y be wiiltcuc Diiticaliy tranr.^ 
aupUt iicrcr CO be iotcrrupted \wittiout the molll 

- - r , ->'''i ('"< t^ere is now no foch Neceffity, hy \ 

* imi; I'raiouf Argutpena, would be (upeiRuutu. furltbai' 
J---,- .' -v..,^ alfe^dy, that our F.ncmicj will rot fuffer by ibe 
And the Kliicrics thic inevitably arife from a 
_ ui i<af ate too numcroui and opprrflive, to admit oF 
lacrcafcor Ag^ravatiuo upon criviil Muttirn. 
TIm Province of L'lrali&i, Sir, hii already InSercd the 
aecMvenicncici of ihii War beyond any other Part of hu 
■Jrfly'k U i^TKniriii:, fti it i) fitoKed upon the Borden of 
iSFuniili fl-uiMr.i ti), and ai it it weak by the Paucity of 
11 i'laponinn til its Extent: l*t us therefore 
n-g.rd lothit I'etifion. Icll we aggravate the 
^K »*Ui^li the N'ciyhboufhooJ of a powciful Kncmy 
lly produces, by the ftvcrc Miic/ici of Poveny and 
line. 

Ser Robert Wslpolc. 

S I R, 

f Nothing il mote abfurd than for thofe who declare on sirKob 
ill CVcafioAf , with gicac Solemnity, their fiocere Zeal for the WalpOlc 
' of tl>e Pubitc, to proiraA the Debates ofthii Houfe 
> iv««l Invc^ljvei, aod delay the Proiccutioii of ihc Bufi> 
of the ^>ation, by trivial Oaje^honi, repeated after 
ilion, knd perhapt after Convi<Iioii of their lovali. 

« I oc*J DM obrcrve how amch Time would be fpar«d, 
aad %of much the Ditpaich of A£tirt would be facilitated, 
by 1 . ttcJCod of lht» Pradice, a Pra/tice by which 

Tr J melted with Falftiood, and Kttowlcdgc with Ig- 

aoxAtice ; lince. ifSnirrility and Merntneatarc to deurmine 
■a. it i( i»ot acceSUty eitfaer to be honctt or wile to obaio 
Supcrwrity io any J>cbatCi it will oniy be necciliry to 
l»i] and to laugh, which one KUo may generally peifbrm 
wkh Ai much SiKccU ai uiotbcr. 

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it Embargo in Ireland wai ao Expedient fo nccdfti f 
limely, tluc the Repti'jtion of it is thought loo gmt 
« allowed to the Adminilt ration, of whom it hat beca 
many Years the hard Fate to hear their AAicMis cm^ 
td, only becaufe they were not the Aflions of otbert, ut 
be reprefen'ed at TrayiQrs to their Country, for doilic ■!• 
lyi what they thought befl themrelvet, and perhaps lona* 
inics what was in reality approved by tbofe whooppoM „'^ 
.hem. ■ ^■, .^ 2^- 

* This, Sir, they have borne without mtidi Unea£aefi, Hd* 'J^ e ""^l^ 
have, contented ihemleves with the Conlcioufnefi tif douM^'^^; ''' \^ 
riglir, in Expeftation thnt Truth and Integrity muft at mt '^^ -^ ^ 
pievaili and that the Prudence of their Condu£b and SiMceft t'f, -^ ^ 

of their Mcalures would at laft evince the JuJliae of Chdr ^ .';^ \ " 

Intentions. ';'-"^ - " 

* They hoped. Sir, that there would be Tome Occafiaaa m ~.' ' " --*; ' 
which their Enemies would not deny the Kxpedienee of tbdr ' ~:^ ^ 
Counfels, and did not expcfl that alter having been lb long ' \"'^ ■ 
accufcd of engrolTing exoibitant Power, of rejecting Ad^cr, ■'■ '■' "- -: " 
and purfuing their own Schemes with the moil inviaciblo '"';' ' r 
Obflinacy, they Qiouid bcAippufed on a fudden to havelail '} 'e^ .V ' 
afide their Arrogance, to have deicended to adopt tbo Opiai- \"'l' *=^ ^ ■ 
ons, and give ihemfelves up to the Dirtdioo of otbert. oolf -.'-y.^ -^^ ^ 
becaufe no Obji-'Aion could be made to this Inttancc of ikcir. '''- 
Conduft. fi. - ^.' , 

* How unhappy, Sir, mu& be the State of that Man who ' - - - ' 

is only allowed to be a free Agent, when be a£t> wrong, aod -'■•S. -' ^ 
wbofe Mocioni., whenever they tend to the proper Poiat, are ^'^ '-T ' ^ 
fuppofed to be regulated by another ! ••• I "_ 

« Whether fuch capricious Ccnfurers expe£l that any Re- '''': c- ^' 
gard fhould be paid by die Public to their Inveflivci, I am sot ~-'.^ S^ 
able to determine, but 1 am inclined to think fo well of tbrir :.::- "■ -^ 
U»dcillandjng<, at to believe that they intend only toaanft '"--i ^ " 
thentfelves, and perplex thofe whom they profefi tooppofe. ' '' 

In one Part of their Scheme I know nut but they may have u, t.'^ • 
fucceeded, but in the nibrr it in evident how gCDCially cbey Tr.; s ^' 
have failed. It muft at leall. Sir, be obfcrved of tfaefe great ■--;„* -^ 
patrons of the People, that if they exprd to gain them by 
Aitificcs like this, ihey have no high Opinion of their DiT- 
cernnicnt, however they may fometimes magnify it ai the 
JjII Apfca),and highcft Tiibunal. 

* V^ i h regard. Sir, to tlir Manner in which the Embargo 
w^i laid, and the Kxpedicntii made iiCe'of to enforce the Ob- 
icrvaciiin of ic, they were net the Effi:fls of a fudden Refo- 
lution, but of icng and d£liSeraie Refl(Aioo, affilled by the 
Councils rf the molt experiniced .and judicious Ferfoni of 
i>ciii i\2tioiis, \z thai if any Millake was committrdf it pro- 
ceeded 



•^■<^ 



( 

; from Arrogince or CaKJcfMieff. but a ComplruCf 
If. ihii, if Iflid before tbe UouJc^ would, wbcilicr 
r. !ic a"owcO to bcfpccious 

Doi a^-pcarcd chatiny improper Meafurci 

!, Of tb^I any JocoDvciticnciet tiavc aiil'cn 

■ 'iLh It wajs i^iojTilile to have avoitied by a dtSe- 

1 : far when fcr.y Expedient fails of praduciog 

for nhicli it wxi prepoica, or glTei OccaQoa to In- 

iienc«! ivliich were neither expeOed nor dcAgited, il it 

tmncdiiccly to be condemned i for it might hiil from 

f '' ..,^Vi ti nothing could furawont, and the Ipcoove- 

1 are complatDcd of, migbi be the Confequences 

rr \_nitei atting HI the (amc time, or coM>perating» 

the Nature of Thing), but by tbe Pnilicci of tbelt 

icirown Intercll to tiiat of their Country, 

: is, in my Opmtor, c:ify to defend (be Condttft 

.\]iQ]!tfy. I am f»T from thinking this a propcrTime 

f»«»E»^,e in their Viftdicaiion. The importaot Bufinefa 

nuD now whoijv crgige us, nor ought we to em* 

Artfrtion upon the pill but the future. Whatever 

or^nce or Knowledge, wlutenr the Cor- 

lr .■•■■ dF the Minillry, this Bill ii equiUy ui'e* 

ly : The Q^cllion it now concerning aa 

i'. , not of tbe Minittry, and the Biiljuay 

rtthoac obitruciing tuturc Kxaminatiuo). 

Bir, Sir, now before uh b^ fo fir approved u 19 
iycd uf any renl Benefit to the N':):ion, if it an, «| 
)te to the DiUrefi or JJiUppGiniment o[ our Eae* 
iW'i or the PievcntioD of chore domcllic l>il1urbiL0ce> 
;^ — ■■Murafly proJucckJby Scarcity and Mil'dy; thtrt 
:* Arsumenti to evince ibe NecclTuy of Undtf- 
pj^ng It. For if tbc|e ECcilt are lobe produced 
linQ ibc Exporution of ProviiJaiM, and a Liw is 
. it ii cTitain that the Law mud, 
<Goni SIC yet In our H^nd^ and 
'] lif^*n given foi' the ExccutiOQ cf ibtifis, 

i:e .-klrcul^ made. 

tt. Sir. are entered into for Qijantitiea thac 

r,re of (he Legiliiivc Po»vrr. I h;ive bcca 

hf fi>ch IniclligcDCe ai I c^nno*. t deccir* 

'me. fn one ftiiHi' "Town in the Vt<. . t of ihU 

:v ibanUnd Bjrreh of Corn aic luiJ by Con* 

■■ i bccxpqritrd, if lime be allowed (or coUc^ng 

ipping thcai. , 

Cu,itA<\i like ibii will be ruSifieni to flore an 

I. or to furniA) CitrritDn! agaiolt the Dan- 

.^. . ^ few CoatraAi like tbu wUl pi^ucc a cqq- 

l^dcnblc 



ttiejrwereot little weight; and 1 believe they had i 
£fic& upon thofe that heard them. It may thercfo: 
fouibty fupporcd, that the Propriety of a Law to pi 
Exportation of ViAnals is admitted, and furely it < 
Quedion. whether it ought to be prefTed forwird 
delayed till it will be of no effeft.* 

Mr. Fazakerley. 

S 1 R, 

Mr. Fizakcr- ' Aa the Bill now under oar Confideratioa is 
ley. with a Multitude of Circumllances too important to 

by without ConfidfcratioD, and too numerous lo b 
examined ; as its Effects, whether lalutary or p 
mult extend to many Nations, and be felt ia a fe 
to the remotell Parts of the Dominions of Great '■ 
cannot but think, that they, who fo much prefs (b 
lion on this Occafion, conrult rather their Priffions i 
Rcafon, that they difcover rather Enthufiarm than 
that by imagining that they hare already traced i 
of a Liw like this to their nimofl Extent, thry di 
ther an immoderate Confidence in their own Capa 
give any Proofs of that anxious Caution, and delib 
deflce, which true Patriotifm generally produces. 

* There is another Method, Sir, of proceeding i 
per on this Occafion, which Jiasbeca already poin 
ifati Debate, a Method of exciting the Prerogative 
ncr allowed by Law, and eftabliflied by immemoi 



( 353 ) 

• Let ui not hh]t&. the Coinmon-weahli to a hsurdoiis 
and uncertain Security, while we have in cur H.iiids the ' - 
means of producing the fame Erd, with lefs Dan^er.ird Ir' 
CODveniency; and, fincewc may ohvtate the Expurti.ioii 'f 
ear Corn by Methods more fpeedily efficacious than the 
Forms of making Laws can allow, let as not opprels our 
FeUow-Subje£ls by hilly or imprudent Meafures, hut make 
Ufe of temporary Expedients, while we deliberate upon the 
Sfisblilhinenti of a more lalUng Regulation.* 

Mr. Campbell. 

Si«. 

■ That ao Embargo on Merchandize or Provlfions, in<iy Mr.CampbcUj 
■pon fudden Emergencies, or important OccaAons, be im- 
paCed by the Prerogative, cannot be doubnd by any Man 
vkofe Studies have made him acquainted with the Extent of 
A> Regal Power, and the manner in which tt has been ex- 
cned in all Ages. The chief Ufe of the Prcrog.itivc is to 
Sapfifthe Defeds of the Laws, in Cafes which do rot ad> 
auti^ long Confultations, which do not allow Time to con- 
FarliamentSf or enquire into the Sentiments of the 



* For this ReafoOf in Times of War, the Royal Power 
ia wnch calarged, and hat ftiU a greater Extent as Exigencies 
tm man preffiag. If the Nation is invaded by i foreign 
Wmst t the Authority of the Crown is almoft without Li< 
Mlh-s ■ the whole Nation is cooCdered ai ao .Army> of which 
At Kiag ia General, and which he then governs by mar- 
lU Jjcwtt by occafional judicature, and extemporary De- 



* Such, Sir, is the Power of the £ing oa particular 
Bacrgenctes. and fach Power the Nature of human A&irs 
■Vft iiDBictimes require ; for all Forms of Government are 
■laadcd for common Good, and calculated for the ellablifhed 
Oaadition of Mankind, but mull be fufpeoded when they 
eaa oaly obArud the Purpofes for which they were cootriv- 
■d» aad ninft vary with the Circumflances to which they 
9tn adapted. To exped that the People jhall be confulted 
ka Qaaftioai cm which their Happinefi depends, fuppofes 
IhlK il an Opportunity of confulting them without hcizard- 
b^thuT Lives, their Freedom, or their PofleOions, by the 
Fanni of Deliberation. 

• The Necel&ty of extending the Prerogative to the Ex- 
SCaiciei of Power, ii, I hope, at a very great Dillance 
fnMi Ui but, if the Danger of the Exportation of ViAuals 
tf fo orgeat u fomc Gentlemen have reprefented it, and fo 
omiiMSIe as it appears to the whole Nation, it is furely 

Vob. VIL Z z requifite 



r • ■ :.. ■■■i- :.:)'t:.') i; 'c 'mi thii Occnfuii expn 

' ■ v :'-ia: .-iny Ambiguity of Lingu-ge 

I f tut, I am in doubt whcihcr 1 do nc 

inf, nnd r-Tinnt, wi:^oiit Htfitntion a 

;, : II I'ole (he Mciinr to which all their ^ 

. 11.1. tii.riy to icrduifl me ; Arguinerts of v 

i,o' <: ry (he K.rci-. and whith I fti-iM i-.otatCrnpt 

(■ c h\ fliph- 0;j tlVons, when I sir corivirced la 

iiiL-ir He ..'t..:! [Ill Is and TiLlh, 

• 'i'lic NiTffliry of tiiR: Dil'patch which F ba 
voored :o ircuinnnrpil, is not only univerfally ado 
cffirmrd to L« lb p'elTing, that it cannot wait for i 
nity of IwKutes, or the common Forms of p.Ci 
The Uarp'T, which h every Moment tncrealing, 
in theOpiii'oti of thtfe GentUmen, to be obvi^ied 
oritir ry Mealurcs ; and ih&t ]?ernicious Ccmmen 
threitiLiu ti e Diltrefs of the Ccmmiiniiy, is to be 
by an iir.meri'>ie Ad of the Prerogative. 

• If this be the Opinion of the Hout'c.it will bt 
t" Iny i; bclore hi> Majcily by a regular Addrcii 
NatiuP mjy be convmccd of the NecelHty of lucl 
dinnr) l^tecHution, that the Embargo may be ir 
o> IV. with thr Fxpedition peculiar tu defpotic Powc 
^n.hority which can be conferred only by pari 
Sii'A'ons. 

• Whether this it the Intemion of the Memb 
wl'iifi- Declarations I havededuced it,-canonIy bei 




( 355 ) 

•WD ExprelTions, Twill rreely declare, tliat I am fulJicieiitly 

' uderltood by ihc Right Honourable Gentleman, und tn.u. m 

nj Opinion, no Remedy ccn be applied to the prelent DiC- 

taDper of the Nation, a Dillcmper by which it is hourly 

[ pniag away, by which its Vtr.!s are impiircJ, and the ne. 

'.' ftflary Nourifhment withdrawn from ii, that will cpcr.te 

- *ith fofficient EBicacy end Speed, except an Embargo be im- 

fofcd by the Prerogative. 

• That this Opinion, if received by the Houfe, mud be 
Ae Snbjeft of an Addrefi, is in itfclf mdiiii'Vlti and the 
fta&n for which an Embargo is required, proves that an 
AUnfs ought not to be delayed. 

' I caonoc omit this Opportu.iity of remarking, how 

fUnly it mull now appear that many of us h-ive been uri- 

. Jitty charged with obltrufling the Prcgrefs of the B.' for 

fniinous Purpo{es, with Views of raill>-g Dilconteiicb in 

Bthfition, of expofing the Adminiflrntion to public Ila- 

V Md, of obftrufling the Meafurcs of the Govcrnmei't, or 

'**'"'" ' r- . tr, when We h^vc rccciiej 

Vended ihr Ii fijr'icc < f 
faciliwting -\n Exy-e- 
4faK which may promote the general Advantige, by recom- 
•^ wading his MajeDy tothcAfFc^lioos of hisPeuple.' 

Mr. Henry Pelham. 
Si >, 

■ I am &r from blaming any Gentleman for aflert-ng, on Mr Htniy. 
«H Ooafions, the Integrity cf his Defigns, or dispuyirg ''-iiuiii. 
ifca Reafooablenefs of his Condufi ; and of what I du not 
difi^prove. I Qiall notdecliric the Imitation. 

* It is got uncommon, in the Heat of Oppofiticn, while 
Wdl Man is convinced of his own Honeily. and itrorgiy 
■erftiaded of the Truth of his own Pofiiions, to hear each 
rar^ accufed by the other of Defigns detrimental to the 
Mblic Intereft, of protrading Debates by artful Delays, of 
■nggUng againfl their own Convi^ion, aiid of oi^fcurirg' 
kaown Truth by Objeclious which difcover ihemfelve& cu i>e 
miholu Pdrce. 

• Theft Accufations, which are on both Sides fref;ntrnt. 
M« I hope, on both Sides generally falfe ; at le.-ill it muft 
MpCBr 00 this Occafion, that ihofe who pre!' the Btll h^U no 
riaws of flrengthening their Party by a Viftury, df wcprv- 
mg their Opponents by Oiiltinicy, or of piomoting any 
mvnxe Purpoles by a new Liw ; fmce an Kxpcdient, by 
iluch tiipe may be gained, and the avowed Knd of haften- 
Wg thii DCcelTiry 6-11 fecured, is no fooner propofed on one 
'art, Uun xeccived on the other.* 

Z I a The 



( 356) 
.The following Ihort Debate occaritd oa the QoeftuM 
when the Bill fttould commence, 

Mr. Campbell. 
S I R. 

M OmiDbell. * '^*"* ^^^ lav/% may be obferved by the NatioB withaqt 
' daily Violence and perpetual Compiilfion, that our Deter* 
mioations may be received with Reverence* and the Rcgub- 
tioDt wbicb we eltablifh confirmed by the Concurrcoce «f 
our Conlticuents, itis ncccflaiy that we endeavour to prcjem 
their Elleem, and convince them that the public Pn^cri^ 
may be fafely trulted in our Hands. 

' This Confidence la to be gained ai well in high Stuioti, 
a> in lower Condition*, by large Aflemblies as by lodnW 
duals, only by a conflant Praflice of Juftice. aod freqoai 
Exertion oi liiperior Wifdom. When any Man fiodl Jh 
Friend oppreffive and malicious* he natoi^y withdrawi Jib 
^fB^ions from him ; when he obfcrves him advancing i^ 
furtl Opinions, and adhering to ihem with Obllinacy iMi- 
pablc of Convidion, he falls unavoidably into a Difttrfrf 
his Uade[it.'.iiiiiTig, and no longer pays any Defereoce to ik 
Advice, or coiiliUcrs hii Conduct as woniiy of Imituiaa. 

* In the iamemanner, Sir, if thelcgiflative Powen (USf 
in making Laws, difcover that they regard any Motif eib- 
fore the Advantage of their Couniry^ or thu tfary fHaftK 
the public Good by Mcafures inadequate and ilt-conccndt 
what can be expeAeJ from the Pcop e, but tlia: they flmaH 
fct up their own Jungment in Opposition tu tliat of tis 
Governors, make ihemleives the Ariiiteri io all doflblU 
Quellions. and obey or dilregurd the Laws at DtfcretiMF 

• If this Danger may arife from Laws injudiciouHy dilfl 
up, it may furely be apprehended Irom a C'ompttaocc mk 
tnis Propofal i a Propofil that the Operatioo of the Id* 
fliuulvi commence eleven Days before the Law ittdi it it 
Being. 

■ J have hitherto, Sir, regarded it as a Principle, eqai4 
true in Politics as io Philosophy, that nothing can aA wkl 
it does not exill ; and I did not fufpcd that a Pafickniio 
dent would ever llandin oeed of a Proof or IIIuAiacion, 

' We live indeed in an Age of Pjradoxes, and h^ra 
fcveral Notions feriouily deicnijed, of which fome woaULnOl 
many Years ago, have condemned their Abettor to a hifaB 
or a Madhoufe, and would have been heard by the wifaftel 
our AnceElors with Laughter or Deteilatioo i but I did MKCl* 
yrQ. that the mod Hardy Innovator would have flwck'd iV 
L'nderlUnding with a PofitJon like this, or hare aflnndita 
a Law may operate before it is made, or befiue it ia pnge^tad. 

■ Xh« 



( 357 ) 

Ttal where tbe/e ii no L«w there ii do Trtftrgreffion^ 

ux oaljr rllibliibcd by imiveriil Conlrnc.but m 

fmitm mad andeoiablc t and it is. Sir, larcly no Icii cer- 

, iMi wbcre ilMre it ao Tnofgrri&oa there caa be oo 

Mui na^ br paaiftied, -Sir. bf a Law made after the 

kow cin any Man conclude himielf fecure (rota the 

at tbc Gibbet? A Man miy cafily find Mcani of be- 

iB ihac be Kas olTeniled no Law in being, but that 

d no gTcac SatiitiAion to a Miod nicarall^r timorotn ; 

I Law hetutter l^ be taa.de, may, if this Moiion be 

liaiuble, CakecognizJocc afhis Akrons; and how 

Inww whether be haj been equally [crupuloui to ob- 

foiure Sutucc) of fatunt PailUmcutSi he will find it 

uJt 10 (leiermiiw.* 

iir. Henry reibara. 



■vttbf!andicg tbe Abfurdiiy nhich tTie Honourabk v, p t 
GcKiesaao imaginci hjmrcll'*to have dirtuvocd in thji Pro- '' ' 
■^If iBci whKh he malt be confeHed to tuve placed in t 
tvy firoBg Light, I nm cf Opinion, that it may, with rery 
Ikdc Con&deraiiun, be reconciled to Realun inJ to jitAice, 
mJ Ami the VVic and Sanre chjc have been (o tibrnlly rm- 

will appear to hafc been loilin cbe Air, witboui U:< 
ritUoa: [■■ j-jiy. 

■yt-r 1 1 ,f rut ion of the t<3w stay very properly commnice 
Kran on which the Embargo was hid by t,i» Ma- 

jcfti'i I iun..^jnation, which I'utely wai cot ilTucd to nn I'ur* 
pev, and which ought doc to bcdilobcycd without funiQi- 



I 



Sir Jok&Bircurd. 
S I a* 

■ 1 onaat not be foBitwhaC rurprifec?, l!iata Genileman fa Sir John 
loBt: iit in national Affairi, fhoulu not yw have heard B*i»*nL 

ftt ki._ . c Dificrcnct between a PracIainatioaaDd a Pcaal 

U». 

* Bf n PrDclunatton hit MajeAy may prevent in fome 
^fin wim be cannot punini, he may hinder ihr luportition 
si oar L'orA fay ordering Sbipi to c-c llatiuned nt the Entr&ncA 
«f mat liarbourii but if any fhouid efcapc with prohibited 
^rgoca, be can inftjA oo Feoaliics upon them at their 
iUum. 

• To enibrce thii Prohibition by the ^vanftion of Punifb- 
ii the Inientiun oi [he present Biil. buC a J'roclaina- 

can make nnihing c-rimirul, and it it unjuiL and ftbluili 
ID ponih an Attioa wbich wu icgal «bca U Mas done. 

' - Tie 



r 358 ) 

■ The Law ought* Sir, in my Opinion, not to commence 
till Time is allowed for difperfirg ic to the ulmott Limits of 
thislfljnd; for as it is unrcaionabie to punifh wirhout Law, 
k is not more equitable to punifh by a Law, of which, tkrjr 
who have unhuppiiy broken it could have no Intciiigcnce.' 

A longer Day was agreed to. 

JijlraS of tbt Bill to frnent the T.xpsrtatkn t/ Core, tfe. 
aiid if the Claufii rtjtded. 

*' Whereas the Exportation of any Si>rt of -Grain fRice 
excepted) Meal, Malt, P'lour, Bread, fiifcuil. Starch, Ijccf, 
Pork, or Bacon, out of Great Britain or Ireland, and the 
Co'onies or plantations in America, or the Dominionibe 
lodging to the Crown of Great Britain in Europe, may at 
this 'lime he greatly prejudicial to his Majclty's Subject;, 
[ (A] and the fame, as the Law now (lands, cinnot be eilcc- 
lualiy rcltraincd ; and whereas a proper Power of rellraining 
the fame upon any Emergency is »t prefcnt neceiEiiy. (A; j 
Be it therefore enafted by the Kind's moft excellent Majeily, 
by and with the Advice of, &c. [ (Bj that from and after 
the Diy of it fhill be lav.fal for his Majelly, bjr 

Order of Council, to command or empower the Lord Lieute- 
nant, or Lords Juflioes of Ireland, or the Governors of our 
. Plantations, to ilfue forth Prcc!am.tiions tor prohibitfng the 
Exportation of all or any Corn, Grain, A:c. (except ai after 
excepted) and be it farther cnr.£tcd, that ifanyPerfon, &c. 
fbalt, during the Time aforefaid, c:i'pcr{, or caufe to be eX' 
porEcd, contrary to fuch Proclamation, Corn, Grain, &c. 
if,e fame, together with the Ship or Vcffel, Tackle^ &c. 
(hsll be forfeited, and the Perlbs fo cfTinding (hall 

" Proi'idi'd that this Ad do no: extend to prohibit fncb 
Corn, Provifioii!, &c. put on board and exported in his 
Majcllj'j Ships or Privateers, ncceffary for their Compli- 
ment, V'oynge, and Expedition which they flull be going 
upon. I'his A61 to continue in Force until lod from 

ihence till next Seflion of Parliament" B ] 

•' That no Perfon before the 2 5 th of December 1741, fliall 
directly or indireflly export from Great Britain or Ireland, 
or other his Majelly 's Dominions in Europe, or the Britifli 
Flart::tions, or toad on board any Ship or Vcfiel, in order 
for Exportation, any Sort of Corner Grain (Rice excepted) 
Mcr.I, iMa!r, Flour, Bread, Bifcuit, Starch, Beef. Fork, or 
Eacoa. whe:hcr the Produce or not of the refpcflive Coun- 
trie!>, under the Penalties and Forfeitures hereafter men- 
tioned, that is, all Corn, &c. fo'^ut on board to be exported 
Qiall be forfeited, and the OtFender Ihall forfeit 20 *. Tor 
every Bufiict of Gr^in, and i s. for everj Pouid of Bread, 

fiilcuit, 



( 359 ) 

Kfeurr, Snrch, Beef, Fork, or Uncan, and alfo the Ship; 
Veflelf Boat, Guns and Tackle lo be Ibrfeited, one Moii-;^ 
10 dtc King, and the other to him who null luc for the 
Jkac f and all Perrons conviifle.1 of aiding w'lV'wg'.y u.t:ie- 
it to be iiDpriiboed for three Months without B^ii. 
'• I. And be it further enafted by, &c. That tlie Ctijcers 
af the CuUoms may fcize ihu Corn, Meal, &c. not allowed 
u cc exporied, which they ihall lind put on board any Ship 
D be carried to the next Lullomhoure or King's VA'axi:- 
*oufe. 

•' X. Provided that this Aft extend not to prohibit the £z- 
porcatioa or carrying out of Juch or To much ufthe (aid Coxn- 
Mditica as ii necel£iry for any Ship, &c. in their refpe^ive 
V^agcs, for the Suitenance, &;c. of the Commanders, Ma- 
in, or Paflengcrs, of fuch Velfcls only ; or for the v]£lu:tl- 
;any Ships in his Majclly's Service, or his Fores or Gar- 



•« 3. Provided tint this A£l extend not to prohibit the 
fitU Commodities to be carried Coallwife, giving Security, 
■■d having a Certificate for Permit} to be returned in (ix 
UoMhi. 

«• 4. Provided that nothing herein contained extend to 
pnbibit the exporting of Corn, &c. from the Plantations 
■a Great Britain or Ireland, or from Ireland to Great Bri- 
ttia, <K via verfa, on Security Bonds and returning Ccrri- 
iEuei. 

«■ f . Provided this Afl extend not to fuch Commndiiiet 
exported from Great Britain or Ireland, or our Plantations, to 
MuMTCa, Gibraltar, or our Fortj or Fa£lories in Africa, or 
Colonin ia America, fuch Place to be declared by tJic Ex- 
poner, and Bond given of treble Value to the Cullom Houfe 
or Nival Officer, that they Ihall not be fold or landed in 
way other Parti wiiich, if not profecuted in three Years, to 
be void. That fuch Collcdlor or Naval Officer, when the 
Suae Dull be landed, give Certificate to be returned to 
bck Officer, within the Time after mentioned, as took the 
Secant/, Danger of the Si;a exceptetl. Forger of a Certi- 
ficate 10 lorfeic zoo /. or any Officer making out a falfe Cer- 
tificate to forfeit that Sum and lofe Employment. 

■* 6. Provided, that it {hall not extend to hinder the 
Befl-Iedia Company from fending Stores to their Fadories 
OB Security given. 

« 7. Provided, that it ihall not extend to Wheat, Mdit, 
or Barley, exported from Southampton only to Jcifey or 
GoerDfey, on Security, &c. fo that it do not exceed five 
tbouiaBd Qiianers fiom December the ift, 1740, to Decem- 
ber the 25111, 1741. 

*• 8. Be 



( 3^0 ) 

»• J. Be Ii rnafini, thit the Govcmor of jisi&ii 
powcfcd to intnift in)' Pcrfbn ot Repuratioa (O 
viOoM to the Bay* of Hooduru and Citnpccbj 
ce«ditig 6q Barrets, 200 Weight neb, is emt 
Sontl (with one Security) of joo/. tht: it be for 
hance of his MajeUx** bubjctii in the hid B*yt 
Mutter and two of liu OfSccn making Oath of 
Tcry fliall be a Ditcharge of the Bond. 

•• 9. fie h further cnaAtd, thit the Conmifial 
Culloiait Hiall git'e a full and true Accouu 10 be 
at the Beginning of next SirlTion*, of til Grain, M 
floor. Bread, Bifcuii, S:arch. Beef, I'ork aod 
ported by Virtue of tbe Ubcitici bcreby gruUl 
Purpofe. 

« 10. Pnn-idcd th:s AB da not erieDd to Ibia 
for Exportation before the 6ib of DcTrmbc/ 1 
Provilion» clejtrcil out in GreAt Briuin, before Dn 
35th. 1740, or in Ireland before Jin. to. 1740*1 
UiioBs btfcn March tbc^ftb, 1741, but thu ' 
be permitted to proceed on iheir Voyagei.'* 

On X Motion lor bringing in 1 61I], for tbc 
icfand pavng the Strceu of Wefttaiolic;, apd tkt 
ibcieci', the l-onl V ifraiutl I'yrcoaoct cjtfrcfip^ , 
Sabiiuice kt ioitoui ; 

Si a, 

totiTjrcotf * Tbo' the Grievarce uhich I sm about re lay 6 
Houfc. ii Dol of the oiuli :'orniiilable or daogcron 
At, it it fuch a« gtina every Day greater, and tadt 
IHy cndittgeri the Urci cf Tbcuiindt, 1 hope it 
be thoDght uiclefi or improper to propoTc St to ^ 
iilion of thii Affcmbly, to offer my Th.ii-chl* 00 
thodi by whicn it may be moll ea&lr i :i^ 

four to incite ether) to ibe &ine Cod: 

* hh impoflibic, Sir, to come (O C 
from it, without OhlcrTation* on the ,.■- 
thcStrecttof Wellirtafter; Obfetvadooj fivcad 
Mas. hoMcrcr in»t:er.tire, or botvcrcr tttprlSeA 
liaos of > difFrrent kind. 

• The warmcil Zeal for public Happ^acfr ■*■- 
otu Vigilance agaiofl geoenl Danger*, mot' 
limej giTc wiy to ObjeAi tmmedute. ttio 01 ic- 
fance, norwHI the molf public fpirited Mesifacn 6 
they have oftea been in the Sutcct nUnBod 
tioni, or fliockcd with Naricicei. 

' The Ftlth. Sir, of fociie Pim of ibe Tcvft, 
loc^uaiii/ afid Kuggednelii of otlicn, caasos 
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py€s of Foreigners difgrace our Nation , and incline them to 
■giDC U9 a People, no: only without Delicacy, but without 
Ooircr«fficn:i a Ktrd of fiirbarians, or a Colony of Hoitea* 

« The moll difgufting Part of the Chara£ler given by 
Timvcllcrs, of the moll lavage Nations, is their Ncglud of 
CtBtnliDcTs of which, perhaps, no Part of the World jitTardt 
■ore ProtxTs, than the Streets of the Britifh Capital ; a City 
fcwnne lor Wealth, Commerce, and Plenty, and for every 
er kind of Civility and PuliteneU, but which aboundd 
fach Heaps of filth, as a iMVHgc would look on with 
■cment. 

• If chKt be allowed which is generally believed, that Pu- 
toc&Aion and Stench are the CauJes of pettilential Diltemper^; 
ih^RcinaTal ot this Grievance, may be prelTed fi-om Mo- 
iof far greater Weight thin ciiufeof Delicacy and Plea- 
ts and I might folicite the limely Care of this AfTcmb]/, 
the Prelervation of innumerable Multitudes, and'intrcjt 
F» who are watching iig'iinft iligiit Misfortunes, to unite 
their Endeavours with mine, to avert the greatelt and mofl 
Acadiol of Calimities. 

* Not to dwell, Sir, upon Dangers, which may perhaps 
be ttoDght only imngmary, I .hupe it will be at ieall conu- 
dvcdi how much the prefent Negle^ of the Pavement is 
dnrioiCBnl to every Carriage, whether of TrjJe or Plea- 
fiav, or Convenience, aod thnt thufe who have allowed fo 
■■clrof their Attention to Petitions, relating to the Roids 
of the Kingdom, the Kej-air of fonic of wjijch is aimoft 
every Seflion thought ol Impornnce lufiicicnt lo pruCuce 
I>^m in this Hoiife. wil! not think the i>trects of the 
Owiul elone unworthy of their Rcg:ird. 

■ That the prelent NcgIcA of clcinfing and paving the 
Stieett, iifucb as ought nut to be borne, th^t the P-.tfcnger is 
everr where either lurpriz::d and endangered by uncxpedtcd 
^'^T'. or ofiendrd and ubUru£tcd by MomiLaini of Filth, 
h well known LO every one, that has puiC.i] a fingle Day ib 
cUl cieai City ; anr3 that this Griev.tnce h without Remedy, 
il 1 faficicM Proof, that no M-igilliatc h-i:, at prefent Power 
te remove it; for every Mil's private Regard to his ov^n 
Eafr and Safety, would incite him to exert nis Authority on 
ihii O^ca&on. 

• 1 fauiably propsfethere^cTf , ihit.i CiH in;iy be hrought 
imo the Houfe, to enaule his M ijiltyX Jultices ol l^-ace tur 
the Liberties of Weil^nii Her, (o inipcit ihi: public ' ays uf 
this Ciiy, ud punifh tM- Nc^'jcd of clcinli-.g ani (.avj,.g 
them ; or that :< new Office'- i)<: nppoinu-il, «i)a vtiLed wi.n 
fiiU Auihont} f.r (rielkmc t'urp.ilc* 

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Mr. Samlys. 
S t P, 
Mr. Saiidj's. * I believe the Grievance, fo much complained of by tM 
Right Honourable Member, is not difficult to be removed 
without a new Atl of the Leg.fUture, being, perhaps, more 
properly to be imputed to the Negligence of the julliceif 
than a Defect of their Authority i for they have already luf- 
licidnc Power to legylatc this Diforder : And I may be al- 
lowed to hope, Sir, that they do not want Leifure to obfcr%-e 
it, for their Number is fo great, that if we fuppofe them to 
be wholly engaged l<y the common Bufinefi of their Office, 
a Foreigner would HaVe Occafion of reproaching us with 
Drfefls f^ore important than want of Delicacy, and migl-t 
juftly cenl'ure us as a People corrupt, beyond the common 
Race of human Wickednefs, a Nation divided only into two 
CJafTes, Magiflratcs and Criminals. 

* But they, in reality, abound fo much among us, that mofl 
of them arc only nominal Magillrates, vel^ with Authority, 
which they never exert, or exert to bid Purpofeb, and which 
it were well if they were obliged to employ in the real Ser- 
vice of their Country, by fupurintending the Pavioun and 
the Scavengers. 

' For this Reafon it is unnecclTary to ercA a new Officer, 
as an Inlpedor ol our Streeta, fince every Office that ii cot 
neceilary is pernicious : Were (Jonfcquencet of this Grie- 
vance fuch as they have been rcprefcnteJ, I (bould perhipi 
willingly ere£la new OfHce, though I Hiould not be furpriftd 
to hear the wifcll Man declare, rather fur a Pcililencc thu 
. an Increatc of OlHcers. 

< As I neither think the Grievance infu'pportable, nor 
the Methods propofed for removing it neceilkr/ or proper,- 
1 declare my (elf againll tiie Motioti. 
Lord Gag;. 
S I P, 
Lord Gi'^. ' As the Grievance cannot be den!:d to be rea], and the 

Motion theretbre may reafonably be imagined to hive been 
made without any other Intention than of benefitinc the 
pLiblic by an ufelul Law, I cannot difcover any (ufficieat 
Reafon for a Rejection fo perentptory and contemptuotu. 

That every Man is difgulled, and almofl every Man dail^ 
endangered in our Streets, has not been denied, nor Witt 
any Man. 1 fuppofe, quell ion what, if be hai not yct ezpt- 
rien ed it, he nuiy perhaps be fiilly convinced of, in his 
met: Vifii of Excuifion, 

» Thofc F.vils, whichever)" Man feels, tliough JTght, are 
Worthy cf l^.e Attention of the Le^ifLture, and that Danger 

char 



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fkt threatens Multitudes, though dilUnt, ought to be 
averted j for a fmall DiforJcr, like a fm..!! Expence, when 
it extends to Muhitudes, becomes a national Affair. 

■ Bat though this Moiion may perhaps be liable to Tome 
ObjcAioBs, there is certainly no fucb Absurdity to be found 
w it* ss may jullify us in rejeAing it without Examination ; 
to rcjeA a Motion when it is tint offered, is a Proof of Prc- 
jodkCi next to that ot reje^ling it unheiird ; it is to deter- 
mine a Queflion, before it is iiircuiTtd or can be fully un;]cr> 

fioai.^ 

* 
Mr. Sandys. 

S I a, 

' I cannot but differ very widely in Opinion from the Mr. S.-t;,t.j. 
Right Honourable Member that fpoke lad, with regard to 
^c Propriety of oppofing a Motion, when ic h firll made; a 
PnAicC) which I can by no Means think inconfillent with 
ciiher Decency or Prudence, and which would p^irhaps be of 
Ufe to the Public, if it was more frequent. 

■ When any Motion is made, it n fubjcflcd to the Confi- 
^ration of this Houfc, and every Member is at full Li- 
berty to examine and difcufs it. If k appears to dcferve far. 
(her Attention, it may be aumithd i but if tjie Subject bu ei- 
ther improper or unfeaTonable, or the Meufurcs propofcd in- 
iudiciDUS or dangerous, it i<: then to be njefted ; and if it is 
atlafttobe rejeAcd, it is apparent, ihat no Time ought to lie 

thrown away upon it. 

■ The Hours, and Days, ard Wi-l-Ue, that have been un- 
profitably fpent upon Bill.-, wh'ch r.ftcr all our Hndeavours 
could not be palled ; tht- D'.'.-.j . rf rc-il ncrtfiis to the Pub- 
lic, which have been pro^iuced by long i'urfuiis of fhadowy 
Advantage*, have inclined tre to a more expeditious Method 
oi proceeding, ar.J dc:erniir.cJ ms f^vccly to r:j>.fl wlut I 
onnoi hope to r.mcnd.' 

The QueAion biii.g pu:, it palT^rd in tlie Xc^ativc, 143 
ipirll 109 

Two dil!in£t Accounts hivtrg been made public of the 
imporiant Debates upon the Miiiiry Ai\, ^r.d u-.t: S-amcn's 
Bill, and it being dil!i;u?c to dcci Ic v.hii-fi is [he mjilajrncii- 
tK.wc have thought i: oar Dii:y to n;^!:c iiic Reader his 
own Judge by inlerti-:g both. 

The ferll on the Muriny Bill h to !)= f;iir,;! P:ige 123 : ' 
And thqt on theSL-anif.ii'.- niil, I'.'.y ,,:', tijij, z;f), 463. 

And |t)e lall nre r; fjlio'v. In a Ci)r.,ii-,.[i.v f^.r mc Ctjn- 

fiiJeraiioh of the B:!I lor tlie Puiiiliiimnt (i'Mu.iny ai;.l iiv- 

lerTion, and for the bitter Puymtn: ot [lie Army and tluir 

QS^rier!, is'c. Sir V.jliiim Yong", d.firtJ ilmt (j-c l-^j 

A a a z i> >.d 



(-36+) 
snd z6ch Claurt.>i of tue hte A£t might be read, which 
were r«aJ as follov/i : 

XX. 

*' It is hereby enaflcd. that the Officers and Soldier*, To 
qu:r:ertd iind bill«ed, Ihill be rcrtivcd by the Otvticn of 
the Ini5> Liv::ry Scabies, Ale-houfc:-, V'ifiuaiiing noule.-. and 
other HcuiV^, in which ihcy arc allou-ed to be quaricrrd and 
b^Jtti'd by thi^ A£l ; and fimll p.iv inch r?i(onaLilu Prices ai 
{hull be appointed from time tu time by tliv Jullii-cs of iht 
Pt:ice in ilieir CJeiicnil und Qusrtcr SfffionsoJ c.cti Countyt 
City, or Divifion. within tlirir n-lpitlive jurifd:ctiims : And 
the Jullii-cs of the IVjce alonfjid :irc hereby empDWcrrd and 
recjuircd to iet ai.d itppoint, in their Ut-neral and Qijnricr 
Sclfions aforcfaid, I'uch re^ifonnble Rates for nil nr^rfllirjr 
Frovifionf for luch Officers and Soidirrs. fur cne or more 
Nights, in the reviral Licits, Toivns, VillHgtri, and other 
Places, which they flnll eoma to in their M.trcii, or which 
ftiali be appointcii lor their Relidence and Qiiarteri." 

XXVI. 
" That the Qtrsnerj both nf Officer* and Soldieri ■■ 
Great Britain ma' be du'y piM .ind futisRed, be it ensAed, 
that every OfEccr, to v hcni i( bclorgf to icreive tbc Pa^ 
or Subf;lirn'-t Nl -v ■'. either for :i whole RrgimcBt, or par- 
ticular Troops :n:] C>.iTjp:inics, (hill immediately, upoD «ch 
Receipt of fvc.y j-.irLicuiar Sum, on Account of Pay or Sub* 
fiftence, give p.bic Notiic thrieof to sM Pt-.-foni keeping 
Jnnt. or otfiiT PI. .its where Ofricrr!. and S-MiCr? are quarter- 
ed by Virtue r.f thii Afl: Alio appnir.t them And others to 
repair to their Q^u-.rrers within four J).iy» at ihc farthcll after 
the Receipt of t;ic i:a,e, lo declare the .Accnunit or Debts 
(if any Ih;.]] be] between thrm, and the Officers and Sol- 
diers q"artercd in ineir refpcflivrHoufcs : whichAccounls the 
faid Officer or OfTib'ers arc hereby required immediaiely lo 
difchargr, beio'c ;ii)y Part of the laid Pay or SubfiAevce bc 
dir.ributed to ihc Ofncrr; or Soldiers: Provided thefaid Ac- 
counts exceed n-t for a CommifHcn Ofiicvr of HoHe, unJcr 
a Captain, fur one D.iy's Dirt and Small Brer, Two Shil- 
]inj;s ; fur one Commiffion Officer of Dragoons onder a 
C.ptain one Shilling, for one Commiifion Officer of Fool 
under a Cripcain, ore Shilling ; and for Hay and Straw, for 
one Hurfe, Six Pence; for one Dragoon or Light Horfe- 
man's J)ict nnd Small Beer, each Day Six PcBCe, and HtT 
and Straw for his Horfo, Six Pfrce; and aifo not to exceed 
Four Pence a D:iy, for one Foot Saldier's Diet and SniaJl 
B«r." 

He 



i He tbCHrpoke to the following EiFca. 

[ S I >. 

* Whether thetv is any real DifHculty in the CUufes Sir Will 'vn 

you have now heard read, or whether there arefuch Yunge. 

HBgn as majr be eafily undtritood by thule who have no 

Mftpft tb miiUke them, and which are only clouded by an 

ifStffeisl ObliDarity, whether they srv in thctnfelves cp.ble 

pardiflcrMt Meanings, or whether Avarice or I'overiy have 

flir*llfTj mmfonabic Interpretations, and found Ambigui- 

litf *■& becaufe they wt^re determinrd not to be dilappuint- 

- •ifH^tll^ Search { whether this Luw ibdifobeyed, bfcaufe 

UitwSSnieiftood, or cnly miJLindcrliood by thofe who had 

to dilbbey it, the Commitcve muft determine. 

liai been for many Yean underxood that innholdrrs, 

n of Public Huufci were obliged by this Law to 

S^ien quartered upon them withUietand Small Beer, 

ijr aiKl Straw for their Horfes, at fuch Ratt^s a$ are 

in the A£t;r.or can I difcover thatthele Claufes 

any other Interpretation, or that any other could be 

by the .Senate by which it was ei.nc1ed. 

* The Pay of theSjIdiers, Sir, was well known tothofe 

wfepve their Confent to this Law, it was intended by them 

Ak the Soldiers Ihould be luppiicd with NecefTaries, and it 

anUwK be meant that they (houtd pay for them mere than 

thy noeired ; they therefore efUblitbed the Rate at which 

thl^ mretobe furni(hed, and fixed the highelt Rate which 

ihe Wigea of a Soldier allow hmi to p.iy. 

■ This fnterprctaticn was, as i fuppole, from tis apparent 
Owfimance to Reafon, univerfally iillowed, till the Inhabi- 
lun of Ledbury, whither Soldiers had Ixen fent to fupprefs 
a Rioe and enforce the Law!>, found th^ir Apprehenfions (b 
Iharpen'd by their Malice, that they difcovered in the At\ an 
Aabisuity, which had, till that Time, cfcaped the Penetra- 
MB of the moH Sagaciou;; an^, upon Comparifon of one Cir- 
CBBiftMicc with another, found themlelves under no Obiign- 
tm to give any AfTillance to the Suldii-rs. 

' They therefore. Sir, not only refufed to afford them 
ViAkolt at the iccuAomed Rates, but proceeding from one 
Iiaiode of Interpretation to another, at length denied them 
MX mly the Privilege of Diet, but the' Ufe of Kitchan 
Unfili, to drefii the Provifions, which they bought for them- 
fclvn, and at laft denied their Claim to the Fire itfelf. 

* The Soldiers, exafperatcd not only at the fireach of 
^cft^ilhed and uncontefted Privileges, but at the Priva- 
iMBof the NeccflAries of Life, began to think of Methoda 
■HI fpccdy and efficacious than ihofe of Arguments and 

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Ranionurancc*, nnc] to form Rcfolucions of procarfa| |y '' 
Force what, in their Opinions, was oaly by Force wiUlhd4 
Iroin ihem. 

* What might have been the Event of this Coatrorerfy.. ' 
to what Extremities a Conted about Things fo Decri&ff '" 
might have been amtd, how witie the Contcfl might blif '■ 
iprcad, or how long it might have latied, we may inugiif. . -' 
but cannot determine ; had not a fjicedy Decifion been yi^ '' 
cured, its Conlequenccs m)f<ht have been fatal Co Malcitudei, ^' 
and a gr^at I^'l^t ot the NiMiun been thrown into CcmfiiCoB. 

* Having received an /^ccour^t of the AfFitr from lb* 
Ofiicers who commar.dcd 'at that PInce, [ confnlted tbe At- 
torney General wl.at was the Dtiiga of the Law, and the 
Hxten: cf the OMigstion enforced by ir, and vas aofivcred 
by him, that the Sums wliich were to be paid for the Dictof 
the i\ien, ard the Hay and bcraw for tlic Horfei beiaglpe- 
cified, ic r.iuil ncceiTarily be intcr.dcd, by the Lcginatdre, 
that no higher Rates fnotild be; demanded ; — that the Power 
granted to the Jullices of Pc-ice wr.: wholly in favour of the 
boldier, r.nd that tbOy might leCicn ttie I'^iyment at DilciC- 
tion in Places of uixonmcn Chcipnels, or Vears of eztia- 
ordinr.ry I'Icniy. but (.ou!d nnt ir,cre:ire it on any Oocafioa. 

< Another Difpute, Sir.of [tie like Niture wai oocifioned 
by the late Scarcity at W:)kcf:c;d, ivhrrc the Jullices, apoo the 
Application of the Inn-kerpcr, made ule of tbe Authority 
u'htch they fiippofed to hive biccn rcrpofed in ihem by the 
A^t, and raifed the Price of ITiiy and Straw to Eightpeoce, 
which the Soldiers were not able to p:iy, without fuflering 
for Want of Vifluah. 

* Un this ULcalion likcwifc I was apply'd to, and upon 
conluliing the prcjent Attu>noy-Cicncr:i), rtrceived the fame 
Anfwer as before; and tr.inlmining his Opinion to thePiace 
from uhcncf I r^-ccivcd tl<e L'umptninc, it h.id lo much Re- 
gard pr.id to ir, that the additional Demand was (hence for- 
ward remitted. 

* 'ihe J.c;rrr^ which thcfe two learned Lawyerj fcrt to 
mc on rhij Sul'j,fL:l I havR r".w i;i my Ilind ; and hope ihcir 
U^-inion will he th-^ught uifnriiTit Authority for the Inierpre- 
iM'.'in nf an Ai^ cf I'ariiaiiicnt. 

■ N.-;r is their .■^ nthorir/, Sir, however great, fo Rrorg a 
Proofnf ;hc' ji ilrcfs of this liiicjprctaion, ai the Reafona 
liN .-:;■!>, rr r.-i:hcr Nfc:r;":-v ^^admi-.ting it. The only Aigu- 
rr.err thit r ni he produr:-.: ag-iinlt it, i^ the Hardship im- 
pr> d hy i: on tl.^ inrh^!-'rr. who, as it is obji-fled, mull be 
f'hj'c^ri" i^ rhi* f-^w. fo r-.'eillootl, to furnifll the So'dieri 
^*/lui :*ioviiicr.i •.'■ji n Prj^c a: which be cannot afford them. 

' fl-'C 




( 3^7 ) 

lit. it be confiJered, how much more eafily the 
Jordon furniflithem at this Price, th.in they can pro- 
fye iHi^mfelves, and the DilTicuity will immediately ra- ^ 

If Soldiers are necefliry. they mull neceffyrily be fup- 
!, add it appears, upon Rcficflioo, that their Pay will 
•OCOtrpotithcDi by any other MctlioJ. 

• tf ih^f are obliged to bi:y their Viftuals, tlicy miiH 
Ittrwtle buy Fire and Implemcnti tn dreis them ; and what 
■■; [a grtater Hardftip. they rauil Cell ihtm, and buy new. 
It rft:y change of fheir Quirtcrs : If this is impofiibie, i: 
«ia be allowed not to be the Meaning of the Houfc, upon 
•IkjIc Wifdoni it wou'd be a Cenfure too fevare tofuppofc 
itictn capable of en^ding Impoi^bilities. 

Bat to the Inn-hoMcf, Sir, whofc Utcnfils are always in 
I .-. aDd whofc Fire is always burning, the Diet of a Sol- 
Ctf.1 colli only the original Price paid tu the Butcher, and in 
Ydtt of common Plenty may be afforded without Lofs, at 
tli« Price laCDtioned in the A^. It cannot, indeed, be de- 
nkd th-it, at prefent, every Soldier ij a Eurthen to the fa- 
Allr on which fae isquirtercd, in many Parts of the King- 
dam I bui it mny be rc.ifon.iblv' hoped, that the prefentScar- 
Oiy will quickly cetife, and that Provifions will fall bick [o 
iheii' foraer Value; iind even, amidit all the Complaints, 
witii whicii the Severity and Irregularity of the late Seafons 
^ve lulled the Nation, there sre many Places where Soldiers 
stay be cnJotaincd at the Hated Rates, with very little Hard 
Jhip to iltcTr Landlords. 

• Hciw<:«r. Sir, as this [ntcrprjtatlon of the Ail, the' 
thai fupjvjrted bo:h by Authority and Reafon, has been dif- 
Boted and denied, as fome l^iwycrs mny be of a different 
Opinion from thofe wii.';m I have conlutted, and as it is not 
tikelf that the Pmf^Jcc thus interrupted will now be com- 
pSed tiriiti AiZ Prclcripiion, I think it necelTary to propofe 
lliiR the Ffice of a Soldier's Diet be more explicitly afcer- 
Ddud, that no room may remain for future CoDtroverfieft.'* 

Kr." Sandys. 

S I a, 

* 1 am very far ffbm tfiinfeing the Authority of thefe Mr SzrJ.. 
letrnrrJ Genllemen, whofc Letters are produced, incontrover< 
able Pioui of the Jultnefs of an Interpreiaiion of an ^Kl 
of Che Ho«fe, where that Interpretation is not rnitlelf war- 
rnited by Keafon, nor confillent with the Prcfcrration, or 
P.ajoymcntof Property. Much lefs fliall I agree tofupport 
Chtir Inrrirpretation by a new Law, or eflablifb, by an AA of 
Q^ LcgilLture, a kind of OpprclGon, for which, however 

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tacitly fubmitced to, nothing could be pleaded bitbeno but 
Culiom. 

< The ELirthen, Sir, of a Standing- Army, is alreftdjr toa 
heavy to be much longer fupported, nor ougtu we to idd 
Weight to it by new Impoficioni ; it furely much better be* 
corner the Reprefcntatives of the Nation to attend cotha 
Complaints of (heir Conflituents, and where they arc found 
to anle from real Grievances, to contrive fotne Expedient 
foralteviating their Otiamities. 

' A heavy and dreadfu) Calamity, Sir, liss now ia ■ parti- 
cular manner upon the i'cup'e; the Calamity of Famine, 
one of the fcvcrell Scourges of Providence, haa filled the 
whole Lind with Mifery and Lamentation j and furely no- 
thing can be more inhuman than tu chule out this Sealoo of 
Horror, for new Encroachments on their Privileges, and 
new Invafions of the Rights of Nature, the Dominion of 
their own Houfes.and the Regulation of their own Tables. 

■ The Honounible Gentleman, Sir, has mentioned Pisces 
where Proviftons, as he f^ys, are Uill to be bought at ci(y 
Rates. For my Part, 1 am frxed in no fuch happy Comer of 
the Kingdom ; I lee nothing but Scarcity, and heir nothing 
but Complaints, and -IhalJ therefore be very far from admit- 
ting now fuch Methods of lupporting the Army, as were 
thought too burtlienlome in I'imcs of Plenty ; nor will com- 
bine in laying a new Tax upon any Clals of my Coantrymen, 
when thty are finking under an enormous Load of Jmpotts, 
and in want of the Neceflitries of Life' 

■ 

Sir William Yonge. 

S I R, 

Sir William * Nothing is more eafy than Oincry and Exaggeration, 

Yonge. nor any thing lefs ufrful for (he Dilcovcry of Truth, or (be 

Ellablifhmcntof Right. The molt neceliary Mcafures jn^y 

often admit of very florid Exclamations againlt tbem, and 

may furnilhvery Iruitlul Topics of hiveftive. 

* When oui* Liberties, Sir, are endangered, or oor Coun- 
try invaded, it may be very eafy, when it h propofed that 
we fhould have Rccoutfc to our Swords for Security, ro bc> 
wail in pathetic Language theMiferies of War, to defcribc 
the Delclacion of Cities, the Waite of Kingdoms, the It^o- 
lencu of Victory, and (he Cruelty of Power inflamed by 
Hollilitic^. Yet to what will thofe Reprefentatioos coMri- 
bute, but to make that diSicult which yet cannot be avoided, 
and embarrals Meafures which muil however be purfued. 

* Such, Sir, appear to me to be the Objection made to the 
Method now prupofed of providing Neceflaries for the Sol- 
diers, Mct*lioc!s Dot eligible for their own fake, but which 

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'obgbt tiot to be loo loudly conJtmnctt, till Tome better can ^e 
fob^itaccd. For why DiouM ihe Public be aUrtneJ wiih 
groondlH'] Apprchcttrion}, or why (hould we make tholie 
Xaws which our Afbin oblige us tocna^, Ic(s agrcctble to 
the People by partbl Rrprcicnutions f 

• In the DilculTton oi ih'n Quefliof), Sir, h is Co be CDafi- 
dcrcd urbcther SoIdiri» are to be iupponed, xod whether ic 
ihill be more proper to luiiintsin ihem by the Method of af. 
ctrtaining the Raies at which thej' ire to be fupplied, or b/ 
iitcf«3fing their Pay. 

• Coeol iheie twowayaiiisneceHJry to take; the Provl. 
IiOB* are already fixed ai as high a Price as their Pay will 
aliowi if, therefore, they are cjtpcded to pay more, their 
Wagci mull be increafcd. 

• for my Part I (lull comply with eiJier Method, tho' I 
o&Do: bat thirk it my Duty to declare, that, in my Opinion, 
k it fa/cr to lix the Price of Provilioos, which inuU fmlc in 
ihcir Value, than to raife the Pay of the Army, which may 
•ercr aitcrwards be reduced.' 

hU. Gybboo. 
Sit, 

• I agree. Sir, with the tloooarable Geotlemin. that if Mr GybG 
Sotdicri are oeceHary, we mull make ProvtlioDi for their 
Support. This IB indifpotably certain; but it is no leO cer- 
ttta. that where Soldieij are oeceflary, Rellraint* and Rcgu- 
liuoDB are neceDary likewire, to pref^rve thofe from being 
iBfalted and pluncicrei by them* who maJotaio them for 
tW bke of Proteaion. 

' The Ulrfulner!, Sir, of this Cautioo (ceau not to be 
IcaOira, or not regarded by the Gentlemen whofe Propofai 
give Occaiion to :hii Debate ; for by enacting Lawi in ge- 
aenl Tcrmi, as he leems to advife, wc fliould leave the un- 
kappy Inn-keeper wholly at the MerL'y of his Guel)«, who 
migbl plooder uod lofult him under the Proteftion of tb« 
l#giJTa(ur«, might riot at la a conquered Country, an<l hy^ 
To thi] Trcauneni jroo are fubjcOcd by tbe Determination of 
the Pvltafflctit. 

' Th« Qohappy Man, Sir, could ha%'e no ProfpeA cither 
«r Quiet or Safety, boi by gratifying ail the E«iKtijiion< of 
itturaing Civilitiei for Imolcoce. and receiving their Com- 
masdi with the (ame SubtnilliuR that is paid m capttuUting 
Towoi to the new Garrifon. 

• If it be neccdary to afcercain the Price, [1 it not neceniry 
al tbe fame time to afceititin the Spet:ies and Quantity uf 
ProviComi to be allowed for i: f Is a Soldier to &tten on J3e<- 

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not Tome Limits to Le Tet ro hi^ ExpcQations, and fomc Re- 
llraint» piefcribed to Ms Appetite? Is lie to chtpge hii Fsic 
uj h all the Cipricioutnefs of Luxury, and relieve, by Va- 
riety, the Squeamifhiiers cf Exceis ? 

< Such Dtrmatid^ as thdc. Sir, may be thought ludicrooi 
and trifling, by thofe who do not xeRcQ. on the lafoluce cf 
S'ivtt in Authority, who do not coiilider that the Licenie df 
a Military Life is the chitT Inducement th:it briogi Volua- 
tiers into the Army; an Juduccmcnt which woald, indeed^ 
n-.ake a!] ImprLlTe^ fupeiiIuou«, wrre this Propo^l to be 
ad'-;:'; ', For hcwreaji]y would all the Lazyiod Volapncei 
ei : rge in s. S;ace of Life which would qualify them to live 
u^iun the Labour of others, &nd to be profufe withoat £>• 
pence? 

* Our Army may by this Method be iBcresfed ; bat tie 
Nuii.ber of tliiife l>y whom they are to be nuintaincd, Baft 
quick y-diiiiinifli. For by Exaction and Opprrflionthc pooKf 
I nn-ket.^crs mull quickly become Bankrupts, ind the Sol- 
diers that loir their (garters, muft be added to the Divtdod 
allon^iJ to the more wealthy, who by this additiooat Buidci 
w:[l foon be ledticcd to the fame State, and then oar Amy 
nicft fubfilt upon ilicir Pay, bccaufe (bty wilJ no tango bit 
it ill their Power to increafc it by Plunder. 

' It will then be inevitably necelliiry to divide the Arsy 
fiL-m the tfd of the Community, and to build fiarrackl fev 
their Reception ; :ui Expedient, which, tbo* It may dM 
prefcnt E.iie to ti:e Nation, cannot be put in PiaAice »iA- 
oui Danger to cur Liberties. 

* The Reaion, for which fo mxny Nations have ban Cl> 
flavcd by S'.anding- Armies, is nothing more than iheDife- 
rence of,a Soldier'^ Cordition from that of other M^. Se&- 
dicrs are governed by particular LaW5, and fubjed to pvti> 
cut:.r AuLhority; Authority, «hich, in the m;>nner of ia 
Operation, hab lid^ircdy any Rk-fembldnce of the Civil Poser. 
Ti.us tl;ey loon Ic:irii to ihii.k themfdvcs exempt fnan iS 
cthtr Lawf ; of which, they either do not difcover tbt Ub, . 
antJ thtrcforc caftly confent to aboliih them ; or envy lit 
Ilr.ppii,cI-> of ihoic ut.oare protc£led by them, and fopt»- 
van ui'cnthtm.rlvei todfllroy thui'e Privileges which hm 
no ether L'mS[, vvi;h ic^.ird to them, but to sggravuc lUv 
twn D ftndcniJi;. 

■ 1 luiL Sir, re the nntural Confequences cf a mSiBlX 
Si:bjec.:!i:' ; a:' ihck' Ccnfecuences are not alwiys ^U' 
di.y )^.(.i:i:c^ it thsy n.uit be retarded by tbit Tca«tr- 

jief- V. :,(..'•. .uir Intcrcourl'c H'i:h the icll of ihe N 
prc'uc.s, -^ tilt pjicharge of reciprocal Afls of K.L- 
ABu b^ thi &£4LCnt Inculutioa of (be Wickcdncft cf 



( 37^ ) 

Iribiillng to the Prop.igation df Slavery, and the ^iibrerfion 
of [in: Rights of Nature; Inculcitioiii which cnmn-T [)c a- 
voideJ by Men who hvc in c^}:ilt.int rcMowlliip with ihcrlr 
Countrymen, 

• Bur Soldiers (hut up in a RarricI:, exc'aded from '11 
ConveHation wi[h fuel) as are wil'er iind hnnejt^r tri^n ;jKni- 
felrci, and taug!it that nothing is a Virtue but iiii)'KL-it O e- 
dieoce to the Comm:in:l3 cf t:-cir 0!H;:ers, wi:: !'(ij;i become 
Foreigners in their own Country, and mirch .n'liri:: the Cc- 
kndtnol their. Con ftitati on. with ti.e fii-ne /V.:crif/ u j- 

SioU an Army of Invaders ravaging the (.,'o:'li! ; iliey witj 
e all Senfe of focial Duty and uf loc ..\ H^'^piocfs, and 
think norhing iilullrious but to enHive and delLroy. 

• So fatal, Sir will be the Effeas of an Eibbi'fti-Ticnt of 
Btrracks, or petty Garrilbns in tnis Kingdom; und thrrc- 
ibre, as Barrai:ks mu.l be built when liiii-ktiepL-rs arc rumc ), 

■aad our Concurrence with this Propofal muil produce tiicir 
ItniB, I hope it wi!) not'be n^-efTiry to p'-ov ^y uivy oU.Qt 
Argument, that the Motion cughc to be rejcAcd.' 

Air. Henry Pclhani. 

Si r, 

• Tho' I am not inclined by loud Flvagge rat ions and iif. ^^r \unry 
fe&ed Expreffions of Tendernefs to dcprtrls Lhe Courage, nr *^^''"""' 
infliBie the Sufpicions of the People, to ii;-ii:n them to com- 

Sinof Miferics whicti they do not fetl, or ward rigainlt ii) 
figns which were never formed, yet no Mm is more 
really foUicitous for their liappinefs, or moredcfjrou? rf re- 
'moving every real Cnufe of pear and Occr:{ion of H'inifhips. 

< This AficAion to the People, an Affection llcidy, regu- 
lar and unfhaken, has always prompted me to prtfer their - 
fOl CO their feeming Intt:rell, and rather toconfulc tiieSccu- 
riiy of their Pr.vilcgca than the Gratification of ihetr P?{- 
fioas i it has hitherto determined me to vote fur fuch a Budy 
of Troops as may defend us againll fudden Inrcids and v.-jn- 
Xoa Inlul:s,and now incites me to propofe that foine eflica- 
eaai Method m.iy be liruck out for their Support, wi:.tojt 
CXafpeiating cither the So!dierB or their Landlords by psrpc- 
tiul VVraDgles, or adding to the Burden of a militiry KO::- 
blilhnient theNeceHity of Contentions in Courts uf i..i-.y. 

< I know not with what View thofe havi- liiulitn by 
trbom the Propofil firft made* his been oppok.1; ;licy li..ve 
iodeed propofed Objeflions, I'oine of whicn 'nc liicn a<. 'nay 
be eafily removed, and othcri f^ich as ariic Warn i'.\s N itjre 
of Things, and ought not tlicrcfore to be mcrtlaneil. b..t.-<Liic 
they tave no other Tendency than to er.R >t.c the Mn ds of 
UlCrile chat hear them againtl in Army, at i Tim.- wh:;: )t is 

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( 37* ) 

allowed to be neceflary, and prove onljr wlu^ ^u nevf r de- 
nied/ that no human Meafures are abl'olutetjr perfe^, ind 
f hat it is often impoCible to avoid a greater EvU, bat bjr M- 
feiing a lefs. 

' The Queftipn before m, Sir, ii in ill own Nature b 
£mp]e, fo little connefled with Circnmftances that may djf^ 
traft our Attention, or induce different Men to difioot 
Confiderations, that, when I nAtA upon it, I cannot aOf 
cenccive by what Art it can be made the Subjefi of 1ob| 
Harangues, or bow the nioA fruitlal JmagJoation cattopi- 
tiate upon it. 

* It is already admitted that an Army U Reccflaiyi til 
Fay of that Army is already eftabtifhed ; the accidcttal 
Surcity of For^ige and Vidnals is (uch, that the Pay uati 
fufficient to mairtain them ; how then muft the De6ciencki 
be applied ? It has been propofed either to fix the Priccrf 
Provifions with rcfpeft to them, or to advance their Wapi 
in fome Proportion to the Price of Prorifions. Both dMft 
Methods feem to mee't with Difapprobatioo, and yet dl 
Army is to bu fupported, 

' rhofe who reafon thus, do furely not cxped lo bei» 
fevered, or at lead expeA from a Reply no other S^tiihdiM 
tlinn that of feeing the Time of the Seflion wafted, ud ihi 
Adminillrntion harr<ifliKl with trivial Delays, ior what CB 
be urged with any Hope of Soccers to him who will opaif 
deny contriidiaory Propofitions, who will neither movtHT 
Hand Ail), whowill neither difl»nd an Army nor fupponk. 

* Whether thefe Gentlemen conceive that an Amy mif 
fubfitl without Vifiuals till the Time of Scarcity ii ortr.tf 
whether they have raifed thofe Forces only to Itarvc tkci^ 
1 am not lagacious enough to conjeAure ; hut {hall vcMM 
to obf^rve, th'at if thfcy'have fuch a Confidence io the Ma- 
deration and Regularity of the Soldiers, as to imagine ibl 
they will llarve with Weapons io their Hands, that thcyvi 
hve within the Sight of full Tables, and languifli with Ha* 
ger, and pcrifli ior want of NccclTaries, rather than diaiili& 
the Superfluities of others, they ought for ever to ceaJe that 
Outcries about the Xjcentioufacfs, Infolcnce, and Dufpd 
a Standing-Army. 

* But, not to fink into Levity unworthy ofthn AflcnUfi 
may I be permitted to him that tHefe Aru of procraAi^ 
OL'.r Dtrbates, are by no Means confident' with the Keafaa 
for which we are afTcmbled, and that it is a noch bntf 
Proof, both of Ability and Integrity, to remove Objeftias 
than 10 raifeihem.^atul to fitciliute, than to retard, the fioS- 
tielsof the Public? 

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( 373 ) 

■ Tike PropoGil mad« «t fini wsi oalf to elucidale a I^iy 
kbkch h'J bern rrgularly oblcrved for fifty Vcaf], and lo rc- 

tuch Ambiguitiu ajtenc'cJ onl/ co cmbarTars the loa- 
Hdctt. t)0£ ip relieve tbeiq. 

■ To tkii manjr ObjcdUaai have l)cca niMle, aod macb 
tWD hat been employed to dil'play ihe Hardfbips of 

Uftg^lJiert, butQO beiier Method hu bccnyndil- 
Dor do I exped iha: any will be lUrtcd, not «t* 
wub gretcer DifBculliu. 
ta ill political Qocllioai, QijtQioo] too cxienTive to be 
If comprehended by fpecuhiivc Reifon, Kxpcrience is the 
'Ctside «ti)ch a wii^c Man will follow with die Icall Dillrull, 
tad i: tj DO triria] Recommeadation of the prcfent Meihodi 
Au k hu been to loag purlucd without any (oxn'idihle la* 
caBTeaietKc or loud Compliiatii. 

* Hkrddupt, eveawhcn real, are alleviated by long CuT- 
BMi wa bear any pTcfeot Uncafiners with lelis Regret, 19 
Wt leCt remrTnber the Time in whicb we were more happy ( 

iK laJtby long Acquaintance with any Grieirance we gala 
' Aivastage, that we know it ia its whole Exieat, that it 
Bl be aggravated by our imaginaiioa, and that there 11 no 
for fui pelting that any Mifery i> ycc bcbitul more hcavjf 
tJut which we have already borne. 
' Sachu the Prcteni Sutcof the Prafticcnow rccommra- 
ied to chit AtTcmbly, a Practice to whicb the Inn keepers 
biff* long fubmiticd. and found it at Icall tolerable ] to which 
tkcy kocw ihemfelves Cxpofed when they took out aLicrnfe Tor 
(be fixcrcifc of that ProlcfGon. aid whicb they confidcr as & 
Tu i^oa them, 10 be balanced againll the Advantages wbicb 
tiKTexpcfl fiom their Employment. 

• TbiiTax cannot be denied at prefent lobe byrthcnfomtt 
iaa very uacommon Dcj;rcc ; but thit Weight his not been 
of lot^ Contjotuince, and it may be reafonably hoped that 
■ inJloaw be made every Day lighter. It ii indeed true, 
UMnoaaneciAiry Impufilron* ought to be laid upon ibe Na* 
tiaa even for 3 i)ay, and if any Gentleman can propofe a 
Udfaodby which thii may be iJikcn ofFor alleviated, I fhall 
i«dily comply with liii Propolalf sod concur in cb9 ElU. 
Wiflwen: of rtew Regulationa. 

' Wlib regard to Uarrac|ti 1 pamiot deny that they are 
iiSI; Namei of Tenor toft free Nation, (hat they tend to 
BiIk tn Army frem part vf our Coaniiuiioa, and may con- 
''^■ee to inlu(c inio the Soldien a Dilrrg^rdcf their Fellow 
^<it}tAi. and an IndilTercnce about the I^bertiei of their 
^^iry i bot I cannot difcover any Canncdlion beitvcen a 
fioviMa for the Support of the Soldieri in Public lloufet* 
i> A SttU of omlUfli Funiliarity witb tlieii Cuuurymicn, 

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( 37A- ) 
and the Trcfliyn of Damckr. by which they will be, prr" 
haps, for tvi.'r, k'i«rriteii fhrn [Jitm, ror can ciiccvcr any 
Thing in the Mtthod of ru;:i'ortini; them now rtcorr.inendeo 
that doc*: not icrd iiicher lu the Promntion of murtinl jtoqj 
OiHcca and the Cuiifinnatiaii of FricndQiipaod l>:.nt:vu!cBCC. 

Mr. Campbell. 

S I K, 

Mr. CMi>vbell. ' Whtnce ihc Impropriety of raifini^ ObjcflJons to any 
MenAiics thjt .ire prnpcifcd h iimigined to arife I am ui ::ble 
todifcover, havint; hithcrtu admitted as an uncontrovertible 
Opinion, that it i:- the Daty of every Member of tlii> Houle 
to deliver, witticu^ Refcrvi.', i.i<>5ci.ctmcnts upon any Qutliioa 
which is broii(^)it biforc him, and to approve or cenlurc ac- 
cording to hi.^ Cotiviilion. 

* It it br hii^ Daiy, Sir, to condemn what he thir.ki d.in- 
gerous or iri convenient, it fccms by no means conir-irj* to hii 
l)uty> to Ihew the Renfon uf his Ccnfure, or to Uy bcftire 
the Houlc thofc Ol>jr£lions which he cannot lurmount by hii 
own ReHeftion. I: ccrtiinly is'not neceffdry to admit im- 
plicitly all that ii: a^cned ; and to deny or diUpprove with> 
out Reafon, cin I:c no Proof of D'Jty. or of Wifdom ; and 
how fliall it be known, thit nc who produces no Objeflioni, 
91^5 from any other Motives, than )^:ivatc Malevolence, Oil- 
content, or Caprice? 

' Nor is it. Sir, to be impLt(.-d a<; a jull Reafon for Ccnfure 
tothofe who hru-i cppcfcd tl.c Motion, that no other Mea- 
furcs havf been of;i.T*d them to tiie ConfiJeration of the Com- 
mittee. It i=^ ncccflary to di-mt^lifh a uleiefs or fhaitercd Edi- 
*:ce, b'fjrc n firm and h3bit.:blc Building can be crefted in 
irs Flncc ; the f:rit Step to the Amtnument of a Law is t) 
fhew its Def^-dh ; for why Ihould any Alteration be made 
where no Inccnvcniency is dilcovcrcd? 

' To:he ciiitf Orjcftion litat wa^ offered, no Anfwer has 
yet been midc, '.or i .1 the Houfe brcn informed how the Jnr.- 
ktrpcrllrill Ik.' able to dift:over v.hen he has paid the 1'ax 
V hich :hij Law Uys upon him. 'J'his is indeed a I'ax of 1 
very p.irricii!:tr Kind, iiTax wirhout Limits, and to be levi- 
c^l ;U t:.i- Dif(.r(tion of him for whotc Dcncht it is paid. Sol - 
ditfri, (jinriercd upon thefe Terms, are more properly railing 
Cont'i! iitions in an Enemy's Country^ than rcceiviag Wigei 
in t!icir.Mvn, 

< T:. 't intended by this Motion, that the Inn keepersflia3 

;udj;c u r.rr oiij^ht to be allowed the Soldier for his Money ? 

^^ J do ni't I-.p iht-n that any Alteration is propofed in the prc- 

fcnt Co'iiliiion cf our Army, for who has ever refuted to 

fdl thti.i i'oo.! for their Money at the common Piice, or 

whit 



( 375 ) 
hit NecefTity is there fjr a L^w to enforce a PniSice equally 
^Bihe AdTnncagc of all P>Tti::£ ? \i it bc'^ropolcd that the 
Ssldier fha.ll Judge for htnifelt, zhst lie Ili::ll fet what Value 
MOuIl chink fit on his own MonRj', und thn; he l^ull be at 
B the Interpreter and Rxccution^r of tli:.- r.:w Law. the 
OMdition of the Inn keeper wil- then be f'uch us no Slave ia 
Ac Mines of Americi cnn envy, snd fuch 03 he will gladly 
^u for becter TreaLment uniiectlic mull arbitrary and op- 
pRffive Government. 

* Nor will the lofolencc of the Soldier, thus invcfled with 
■dimiued Authority, thus entitled to implicit Obedience, and 
aahed above the rell of Minkind, by feeing his Ciaim only 
iMlded by bis own Modi^ration. be confined to his unhappy 
Jjldlord. Every Guell v/ill become iVibjeft to hif Intrufioo, 
■d the Paffenger mult be content to want his Dinner, when - 
crer the Lord of the Inn (halt like i; bc-iccr than Iiisown. 

■ Tbtt ihefe Apprchenfions, Sir, are not groundlefs, may 
le jmred from the Condu£l of thofe Men, even when the 
Liv wu not fo favourable to their Dcfigns j foine of them 
bn slrody claimed the fole Dominion of the Houfcs in 
tAkh they were quartered, and infulted Perfons of very 
)if^ Haak, and whom our antlenc Laws had intended to fee 
■ate ill* Infults of a turbulent Soldier. They have feen 
ik PiDTiiiooB which they hud ordeted, taken away by Force, 
futly, perbsps, to pleafe the Appetite of the Invader, and 
pirdy tpintify his Infolcnce, and give him an Oppcrtunity 
if baifting attORg his Comrades, how fuccefsfuUy he blui- 
tlRd. 

* If it be neceltkry, Sir, to infert a new Claufe in the A£t 
to prCfeBt Liw-fuitf, which, however advantageous they 
■ly Ibmctimes be to i.ie, \ Ih.ill always be ready to obviate, 
itiifarely proper to limiitl.j Claim of one Party as well as 
Iku of the other, for how clic is the Ambiguity taken away ? 
Tlw Dtfficnity may be indeed transferred, but is by no means 
raaovcd, .and the Inn-keeper null wholly rcpofe himfelf 
BfH che Lenity and JuAice of the Soldier, or apply to the 
Coara of Law for the fnteipretation of the A& i 

' The Qaeftion between us, is faid to be fo free from Per- 
^BUjr, that it can fcarcely give Occafiun for Harangues or 
uQMUatioiUi and indeed it cannot but be allowed, that the 
Coatroverfy may fooo be brought to a Angle Point, and I 
duak Bothing more is nccef[ary ilinn to enquire, if Inn-hol* 
dBifliall be obliged to provide Victuals for Soldiers at a 
flwd Price, what, and how much the Soldier fh^ll demand. 

' The Power of raifing Money at Pleafure, has been hi- 
dKTto denied to our Kings, and furefy we ought not to place 
lltt Confidence in the lowcU, that h» been refufcd to the 

moll 



other, equally rapacious, equally mercileff, ai 
guilhed from foreign Invaders, by this Circum; 
received from our own Hands the Authority 

,,^f.; plunders us. 

\'i\]', ' Having thus evinced the Neceffity of det 

"' |i Soldiers Privileges, and the Inn-keepers Rig 

^ necel&ry to recommend to this Houfe an ui 

gree of Attention to the Regulation of our i 
blifhment, which is become not only burdei 
Fellow- SubjeAs by the prefent Famine, but by 
of our Forces: an Xncreafe which the Nation 
hold without Impatience, unlefs they be eoab 
Jbr what End tbey have been nifed. 
,1 * The People of this Nation are, for yery 

difpleafed, even with the Appearance of a Sa 
and furely it is not prudent toexafpenite them, 
ing the Troops in a Year of Famine, and gv 
the fame Time new Fowert of Extortion aDdC 

Mr. Winnington. 
Si k, 
fUr. Winnini- * I >»ve beard nothing in this DebatCi ba 
' ten. Objections, which afford no real InformatioD, 
the Alleviation of thofe Grievancea which i 
lamented. 

* It is not to point out Inconveniencies, or i 

iftv Rrnrcfentations of the HaitKhin* tn whirl 



f %11 j 



'.TifJf, Sir, his b«n propofcJ by thole who 

■^ with the prdentCullom, it isicmfooable kJ 

inc. I ■[ nose will be eiriiy dtfcovercd) acd therefore 

J (ri.-..-r.-! ■ u: cbuik ii rcifanabtc that the MotioD ihoald M 

-Aitk. Uy it no new Impofiuoa it jntcDdeJ, nor 

., »....g more t)i»a iKe ELUbliQimeot of a PriAic* which 

COatinucd far more than iif^y Ye<trs, xnd never, except 

■- — "rtafiotij, been denied lobe Icpl, It ii only pio- 

[tie Par'iamcnt ihoald confirm [bat laterpretattcAk 

.-ici whicli hai been almoll univerlally receiired, that 

lid do whjt can prod'.ice do Dilturbancc, bccaufe t( 

oo Alccntiioni. but i^i:iy prevent them ; bccaufe 

lypTEVcnt aby Aiccmpts of JanavauoQt <>( Divertity uf 

John BariUid. 

8 I k. 

* Whether the tnterpretatioa of the hti which is hoit g.f 7^11^ 
ttlfWdcd lor, tui been univciially admiitrd, it n impoflibla Btrnari- 
but it \\ » \*.*'X cciiarn, that the Practice wfakh 
'■tpoDit, bak in many Places never been Jollowed, 
'Ifed^^ can it be made general without great Impropriety. 
Muty d iltolc. Sir. who ate UiieJ Keepcn of Public 
Hoafet, and on whom boI>]iers are qusricrcd under ihni U^- 
Maiir.a:u-.ti. I1.1VC no Cooveniectcy of ftuniQitng Proviiionst 
hecji; -ver Tell ihem : Sjch arc many tif the Keepers 

tf 1 _'leB. Rinonj wh(7m it ii the comtnon Method 

■Dp > a fmall weekly .Al>owancc, tnitetd ot~ todg- 

iag lit^... ... .ucir Houlet [ a Lodging being all which they 

CwceivT [hrmlelves ohjigcd to provide, and &II that the Sol- 
dier* have hitherto required ; oorcan we make any Altera- 
beo in xhu Method, without imroducing the Licence sod 
tdblcfiee of Soldiers into private Houfci ; ibia Houtei bi 
ibcno lUiacoaainted with any degree ol Riot, Incitility or 
■Jpnat. 

^The Reafoo for which PublicHoufei ar« affigned for lh« 
'.'dicrs, 1} partly the grrater Conveniencir uf 
. ■■ ib«m in i-'aoiilict th4l fuDfill by the Enter- 
iioi.( o( .->traD{eri, and p«rily lh« N*iuic of ibetr Pre- 
ASmi, which, by cxpoljog them to frequent £ncountcri with 
and (he Dcb^uciied. enable* tnem either lobcv t»\ 
the Inlulcnce of a boldier. 
lot with rr^tnJ, Sir, to ihc PerCons whom [ have men* 
I, oeicber of thefe Keafoni have :Li<y PtAce ; they h«v6 
from their dally Employtncni, any Opportuniiiet of 
ailhiog Soklicn with Bcdi or Vfftuali, nor by their 
Er of Life aic adapted to fappott Intrulion, or Arug* 
V«fr. Vli. C c « gl« 



V 



glc with rerverfcncfB. Nor can 1 difcoTcr why toy ^ijtn 
fiiould force Soldiers into their Houfes, who would not wil- 
Jingly admit thein into his own.* 

Mr. Cocks, 

S I R, 

Ma Cocks. ' '^tie Practice mentioned by the Honourable Gendemia, 
I know to be gereratly'followed by &1I cbofc that keep AIe> 
houfes in the Suburbs of this Metropolis, who pay the SoN 
diers billctccd on them, a Compofition for their LiadgiD{,nor 
ever fee them but when tt^ey come to receive it; fo br 
are they from imagining that they can chim their whole 
^ubitllence at any Hated Price. 

' It is apparent, therefore, that by admitting thii Motion, 
we Qiould not contiim a Law already received, but cftaUifli a 
new Regulation unknown to the People; that we fliould lay 
a Tax upon the NatioO) and fend our Soldiers to colleA it.* 

General Wade. 

Sir, 

Gcrcral Wade * ^ ^*^* '*^*" '°°E converfant with military AAin, vA 
therefore may perhaps be able to gives more exiAAccoani, 
from my own Knowledge, of the Antiqoity asd Extent of 
thip Praflice, than other Gentlemen have had» Irani tfacir 
way of Life, an Opportunity of obtaining. 
, ' I( was, Sir, in the Reign of King WilliaiA, the conftaM 

Method by which tbcArmy was fupported t as may be cafitj 
imagined by ibofe who refleA, that it was common for die 
Soldiers to remain for eight or tea Months unpaid, end thai 
, they had therefore no Poflibiltty of providing fyr than- 
/elves the NeceiTaries of Life. Their Pay never wai re- 
ceived in thofe Times l^ themfelves, but ilTucd in Exche- 
quer Bills for large Sums, which the Inn-kcepert p r ooued 
to be exchanged and divided among tfaemfelvcst in Prapor- 
tion to their Debts. 

* Such was (he Practice, Sir, in that ReigUf which hat 
been generally followed to this Time, and the Rates then 
fixed have not fmce been changed ; and at no IncoDveDkncx 
bat arifen from this Method, I can difcover no Rcafen a- 
^nft confirming and continuing it.* 

Mr. Puftenejr. 
' Sir, 

Mr. PuUency. '* Thofe that have fpoken in Defence of the Motion, biW 
' accufed their Opponents, with great Confidence, of declaim^ 
ing without Arguments, and of walling the Time oflheScf^ 
l!0Rj in a ulelcfs Repetition of C%je£lioas. 



( 379 ) ' 

• I do not indeed wonder, that the ObjeAions wblch hare 



railed fljould have given fume DiCguJl; for who can be 
'flawed with hnriag his Opponent produce Arguments 
wkich be cannot aofwer i But lurely the Repetitions m.\y be 
fgnrf"^ : For an ObjeAion is to be urged ia every Debate 
dB k isuifwer'd, or is difcovered to be unnnlwerable. 

* But wliat. Sir, have thofe urged in Defence of their own 
rbo fo freely animadvert upon the Keafonings of 

_ . # What Proofs, Sir, have they given of the Superiority 

pf dvfr own Abilities, of the Depth of their Refearches, 
iMtdii Acotenefsof tb.eir Penetration i 

^%ay have not produced one Argument in Fdvour of their 
Uqcum, but that it is founded on Cullom ; they have notdif- 
forar'd, however wife and fagacious, that it is always neceliary 
W caqnirc whether a Cullom be good or bad ; for, furely, 
"it^ffff fucb Enquiry no Cullom ought to be conlirmcd. 

* The Motion which they would fupport, is in.leed urdeft 
incuhcr Cafe ; for a good Cullom will continue of itfelf, and 
enethatisbad ought not to be continued, ft is the iiufinefs 
of the Legillature to reform Abufes, and eradicate Corrup- 
lioBai not to give them new Strength by the Sandlon of a 
Lm. 

' It has been urged, Sir, that the Law in reality exiflsal- 
tttiyi that the A& ha^ been interpreted in thi^ Scofe, by 
thiAltiKnejr General ; and thnt hi<; Interpretation is gcne- 
nDjr received. This is then theS ^'c of the Quellion ; If 
thePnAice, founded upon this S?nle of the A^t, gcner^ll/ 
.pmili, there is no Need of a new Claufe to enforce what 
U alieady complied with : If itdoesnot prevail, all that has 
hen ar^d in Defence of the Motion falls to the Ground. 

■ I do not doubt, Sir, that this Cullom has been recei.'ed 
withooi many Exception^, and therefore think it ought llill 
n remain a Cullom, rather than be changed into a Law, be- 
Cufcitwjll be complied with as a Cullom, where there are 
■oObftacIes to the Obli-rvaiion of it ; and it ought not to be 
nfbrccd by Law, where it it inconvenient and opprefFtve. 

* While tbe Soldier, Sir, is moderate in his Demands, and 
pCMcabteand modell in his Behaviour, the Innkeeper will 
chnrfully furnifh him even more th.)n he can afford at the 
lated Price: and certainly RudciiLi::, Iiilolencc, and unrea- 
fiwable Expectations, miy juilly be |i(mifhcd by the I'orfci- 
lure of fome Convenicncies. Thj-, Sir, the fr.n keeper 
will preferve fome Degree of Authoiry in his o'.v:i Ilouic ; 
a Place where the Laws of Nature givn every .\I.in Domi- 
nion, and the Soldier will continue a regular and inoffenfivc 
Member of civiLSoclety. 

Ccc 2 « The 



{ 380) 

* The Abfurdity of leaving the Soldier at large iabi^ 
Demands, and limiting the Price which the Inn keeper ii to 
require, has been already expofed beyond the PofTibiliiy of 
Rtfply ; nor indeed has the lead Attempt been made to 
invalidate this Objfflion ; for it has been pfled in Silence by 
thofe who have moll zealoufly efpoufedthe Motion. 
' * The Accpunt given by the honourable Gentlrman of the 
ReafoD for which this Regulation was liril introduced in tli* 
Reign of King William, is undoubtedly juft ; but it protei. 
Sir, that there is no Nfceflity of continuing it ; for the Sol- 
diers are now conllantly paid, and therefore need not that 
Alliftancefrom the Inn-keeper, wh ch was abfolutely reqai- 
fite when they were fometiincs fix Months without Money. 

' it has been urged. Sir, with great- Importunity ^nd V'e- 
bemence, that fome Expedient fhould be propofed in the 
Place of this which fe many (Gentlemen ^vtlo'have fpokcn 
tin this Occanon feem inclined to reje^, and which indeed 
cannot be mentioned without Conicmrt or Aldiorreacffl 
That the Soldiers (hould knowas weM as tlieti Landlord their 
own Rights is urdoubtedly jull, a* well as thatihcy ftioald 
havefomccL'rtain Means of profuringtheNcceflaries of Lifei 
it may therefore be proper toena£t, that the Inn keeper flulf 
either fiirnifh them ^vi[h Diet at the eftablilii'd Rates, or 
permit them todiefs the Victuals which they fhall buy for 
themfclvcst with his Fire and Uten{i!s, and allow them do- 
dies. Salt, Vinegar, a. > Pepper. By this Method the Sol- 
diers can never be much injur'd by the Incivility of their 
Landlord, nor can the Inn-keeper be (ubjefled to arbitrary 
Demands. The Soliiier will lltll gain, - by Decency and 
J^umanity, greater Conveniencies than he cm procure for 
himrelfby his Pay alone, and all Opportunities of Opprcffloa 
on either Side wi}l in a great MeaAire be taken away, 

* I canno: but exprefs my Hopes that this Method wil! be 
generally approved. Thoie thai have oppofcd the ElUb'i/h- 
idenc of an Army wi)} be plcafed to fee it made lefs grtcvotu 
to the People; and thol; that have declared to it* Favour, 
ought furcly to adopt wichoLit Oppofition, any Metfures, by 
the Puiluit of which it may be borne with fewer Complaiotl, 
and lels Reluctance.' 

■ 

The firther Cpnfideration of this Queftion was deferr'di 
and [he Chairman having moved for Leave to fit again, it 
was refolved to proceed oti this Bufinefs upon the next Dar 
but one, in a Committee of the whole Houfe : 

When Sir William Yonge fpoke as follows : 
Sir, 
■'iliiam • The lall Day which was afligned to the Conuderatioa 

of thi:> Bin, \va<= ipen: in long Aiicrcatioos, in vague and 

uDneceilary 



( 38i ) 

DilqaifttioD*, in mroffY^liw Rcfl«Aioni upoa 
*g JmQ. xud in aggravating ofGrierancci ttut mty 
Hvcr bipprw ; much Sagacity ivas exerted, ami much £Io- ' 
^tOKf '■i, tidt nn Dc;r!'m!n.-ition wat attained, DOr 

cm I 'Cdtent examined, by which thofi: Gbjcdiont 

nivlit be tiini>vc\\ which ajipejicJ la important, or xhofc 
SUgeri olivjdiod which were reprdented fo formidable and 

* I fcgjir, Sir, part of the Time which has interrened be* 
men tbai Dctrtie and the prHcnt Day, has befn employed 
^ %be Gentlemen, whofe Scroples were (o namerous. and 
«k(ifc Caaiion is fo vigilant, in contriving fome Methods of 

luiing the Army without oppreHing ihe VifhuDeri, 
" providing for oar Defence againtl foreign Ercmiei, 
It fubJcAing us to l^t Kvils of Dircontent and Difaf- 
itan. which ihry impute to the prcfent Slate of the roili- 
tuj ElHbltlhment. 

< To uhl<ti. for ever, and to ftdvaacc nothing, ii an eafy Me> 
Atd of Dilputation Dpon any (^lellion, bol rontributsi ver^ 
Inlttilihe Incteafe of Knowledge; an RTiful and «i:u(o Ob^ 
icAor tasy confound, and darken, and diltuilf, but never 
alttt Enquiry or illuflrstes TiLUh. 

* In political Oueilion*, Sir. Jt^s flil) more e^Cy and lefsia- 
|lBUOini lor all poli:icai Mealures are in J'ome Degree 
hgki «nd wrong at ihc fame Time i to benefit fome they ver/ 
hfVttfDtly bear hard upon othcri, and are cheirTore only to 

jiioveJ or rejeded as Advatitages appear to over-ba- 
Ithe IiKunvenieocie3,or the in(.aoveaiencie5tuoutwciglt 
'fli Advjnt^gc). 

* li ia, Sir, the proper Province of a f>cnator to promote, 
*t to obllriift (he public Counciis, and when he declares hi* 
Ddapprobstioi of any Expedient, to endeavour to fubHiiute 

* b«t4r. tot hnw can he be fatd ro fuflain his Part of ths 
tf«Mril Burthen of public Aflain, who laysothen under the 
[r^cctfliiy of forming every Plan, and inventing every Expe< 

linit, and conteau himfelf wiih only ccnfuriog what kM 
iKvtr endeavours to ametld t 

ThM e>fery Mao who ii callrf Tirih by hii Country, to 
>« hcreatthcGuirdian of the public HappmefA, is obliged, 
>}the N'ltutr of hi) OSice, to propofe in thi^ Koufe what* 

«vnhii iWnctration or Experience rany fuggell lo hitn as 
a4*aiuaget>u^ to tha Nation, I doubt not but all that hear 

>*At>rt lufhcicnEly convinced; and therefore cannut but lup- 
poTe ibit they have fo fjr attended to their Duty, as to bfl 
*!*'< to inform us how the ptelent Inconvruieocies of this 
Viii may be remedied, aod it* DefeAs (upplicd. 

• To 



confctous that Tome Articles in it may require 
fhe Quantity of Small-Beer to be allomd ic 
naft oecefTarily be afccrtaioed ia order to pr< 
aod indeterminable Difputes; for one Mao, Sir 
a greater Quantity than another, and a Man ma 
cd by Malice or Wantonoefs to demand more 
Tequires; it will therefore be proper to limit 
which mult be farnilhed, that neither the Sold 
by the Avarice of his Landlord, nor the Lm 
preflcd by the Gluttony of the Soldier. 

• With regard 10 this Queflion, Sir, I expej 
reiit OpinioQs in this Houfr, which every Mai 
to offer aod to vindicate ; and I Ihill take thi: 
of propoUng on my Part, that every Man ma] 
Allowance of three Quarts. One Quart to ca 
be allowed in my Opinion to be fuHicient, and 
ticman can imagine that by this LimitBtion, 
fliiity is indulged. 

< There are fome Parts, Sir, of this Kingd 
Cyder is more plentiful, aod cheaper than Sm; 
fequently it may be for the Eafe of the Vi£tu: 
the Choice allowed him of furnifliing one or i 
will therefore be a very proper Addition to th 
the Inn-keepers {hall allow the Soldier evei 
Quarts of either Small Beer or Cyder. 

• That penal SanAions, Sir, are clTemial i 
that DO Man will fubmit to any Regulations in 




( 3«3 ) 

n icvsntbty obfcivcil in the I»r RclgDS. tnd lio«^ 
'r ibe Afiignmeal of Troopi ii to be ilrudcd bj the Vic- 

Vc Reign of. King William, Sir, bcrore Funil! wfre 
-1, while ihc Cicdit of iKc Government wjs luw, 
as .-.jcaiorci of the Coun were often ohviaied or dcfnted 
If tJi« Sapcrlority of (he dncomented P»m-. and the Sup. 
riki dcaied which were necrlury lo (wppon ihcm, jnd iq 
IcpedaOOQ of which they hsd been ucdeitaken. i( wai not 
■cfiatDOO for the Tcwm inivhicS thf TroojM were As* 
6eMd, to tnurmiir at their Gueiis i nor could they be 
vkircrtl u'i:h cotrplaining without jull Rcafonsi for Co 

rcf Sjl.-ierj upon a Hoafe, wa* in thofc Days jidle Irii 
to icn«i Ti(x>pi to live at thcJi Dircretion. 
• Ana'I Supplies, Sir, werethen (jcvalional and temporaiy, 
M^Mxhing was granted bac for the prcfcnc Exillence, the 
fcralence cf the Oppofiliuo for a (io^lc SclTion coibairAlIrd 
til t: res oC the Court in the highelt Debtee, tbeif 

^.. . .. .^ ^ .u a Stind, (he Force) were cnpaid, and they 

obliged to wait liQ ^notbcr ScfBoB fiir an C^poituait/ 
profecaung^ their Schetrtvi, 

Tbat, Sir. the Soldiers were fomenone* fire Moniha 
It their Piy, and weic occeffirily Supported by the 
keeper at hivuwn Eapcnce, with howrouch Kriudancs 
JMoDotentl need not incnioD. Itcannot but be iminc- 
iiatlfy cociAdcrcd upoo hrjuag ihii Accouot of the Sol- 
£■*! Condition, with how ai'ny Reproaches he would re- 
am bii \ :£.ltia|i, bow roughly be would be treated, how 
«|ei be would be inrultcd is .tn Tdlcr, and fiownrd upon as 
it iBCnadcr. Nor can it be imagined that fuch AStoott, 
levcver they migbc be provoked, would be bo/ce without 
lUtarn, by tbofe who knew themrdves not the Autbon cf 
the PrcrocatioDf and who ihnighc ihcmrdves equal Suffi:r- 
(n »i:h thole who ccmpliirtj. When the Inn-keepcr 
neirled at the Soldier, the Sulc'cr, ii msy be fuppt/rrd.'fel- 
OM Csikd to threaten, or to plunder (he Inn>Uccpcr, and lt> 
nfa IB h)> Dcmandi, as hit AlloNvance was retrcndicd. 

* The), Sir, the Liodlord and his CiueU u-ere the conflant 
Eacmiei of cmU other, and ipcni their Uvea in munal 
CaaplaiDt], Injuitei, and lofulcB. 

* Stttby the preltnt Regularity of our miltltry EflabliQl- 
acM, tbi» gteai Fvil is taken away i as the Soldier icquirea 
aa Credit of tiic VnHualler, be is conftdered at no great io- 
tmabraocc on hi* Tride, and being treated nitbout Indignl- 
lin, like anj other Memlier cf the Comraunity, he Inbi* 

^.^uaitws witbow Vtuicocc, Jnrokace, or Repacity, 




•aif 



( 384 ) 
and endcarours to recomtncnd biiiilelf by Ofiiciournefs ana 
CiTility. 

< la this prefent Method of Piyaihnt, Sir; the Troopi 
have always one Month*) Pay advanced, and receive their 
ivgular Allowance on the Hated Day i (o that every Man has 
it in his Power to pay bis Landlord every Night, for what 
he faai had in the Day ; or, if he imagines himfelf able to 
procure his own Provifions at more Advanuge, he Can how 
go to Market with hts own Money. 

* Jt appears therefore to ihe. Sir, that the Amendmeat 
now propofed Is the proper Mean betwedo the diflTerent Iii- 
tereft of the Inn-keeper and Soldier, by which neither is 
made the Slave of the other, and by which we ihatl leave to 
both Opportunities of Kiodnefs, but take from thfem tht 
Power ol OpprcflioD.* 

Mr. Carew. 

S I K. 

JAi. Carew.} ' The Amendment now offered is not, in my Opinion, (6 
unreafonable or unequitable as to demand a warm and ftrc- 
nuous Oppoficion, nor fo compleat as not to be fubjeA CO 
fome Objcdions ; ObjeAions which, however, may be ca- 
fily removed, and which would perhaps have been obviated, 
had they been forefeen by the Gentleman who propcrfed it. 

* The Allowance, Sir, of fmall Liquors propoud,! an- 
not but think more than fufficient; three Quarts a Oar ar6 
fnrety more than the Demands of Nature make Decenary, 
and I know not why the Legiflature Ihould promote, or con- 
firm in the Soldiery, a Vice to which they are already tod 
much inclined, the Habit of Tipling. 

* The Innkeeper, Sir, will be heavily burdened by iht 
Obligation to fupply the Soldiers with fo man^ of the N»- 
ceflaries of Life without Payment, and therefore ic m*/ be 
jullly expelled by him, that oo Saperfluitica Ihould be eo- 
joyed at his Expence, 

■ But there rrjnaitn another Objeaion, Sif, of £u more 
Importance, and which mult be removed before this CUufb 
can be reafonably pafTed into a Law. It is not declared, or 
not with fufficient Perfpicuity, Chat it is to be left to the 
Choice of the Inn-keeper, whether he Will fumifli the Sol- 
dier with Proviftons at ^d. a Day, or with the Neceflarib 
enumerated in the Claafe for nothing. If it ii to be kfi lo 
the Choice of the Soldier, the Vifiwiller receives no Relitf 
from the Amendment, to whofe Option, iince be muft fafir 
in either Cafe, it ought to be referred, becaufe he only cik 
tcll bv which Method he Quit fufier leafi/ 



(335) 

Wr. Veltwi CornwalL 
S I ., 

■ U is not without the ginteft Diffitfcnce that X r'iCt to op- Mr. Vtlt- 
pot'e cbe Geiitlemin who offered [he Amcnilmcnt, fiir hit A- ComtnlL- 
bditics are fo tar fupertor ro mine, that I objcft wjrhout 
Hope of being Bblc m (opporr my Objcaion, and contend 
With an abfo1u:c CercAinty of being overcome. I know not 
whether it may beillowed metochfeive. ihiic the Oiffrrence 
between our Faoilijei is with regaid toSircfrgtn ard Qaick- 
aril, the lame as bctnecn the C'yJcr of hiiGioniry and ibic 
(if taioe, except that in rne Part of the P&nllcl the Advan- 
Pge It on our Si Je, and in the other on his, 

• TTic Cyder. Sir. 0/ our Country ii oae of our mod rala- 
■kle Commoditie!, (a much eftcemcd in ditbni Places, that 
oof Mrrehanis often fe!l it by the Bottle, frir more than tha 
SoUier hA* to give for tbc ProvifioD of a Day, and of fuch 
Scmgtii, [hat I, who am accuRomcd to the LTfe of it. never 
wi«ftble to drinic rhr«e Quarts in any Angle Day. 

' 1/ tbeicforc. Sir, tbc Soldier is to have three Quarts of 
tkii Cyder, when Small-Beer is not cjfily to be prociifcd. 
im only (he tnn-keepcr, but the Army will be iojiired t for 
wkugreztrr Harm cin be done lOftny Mm, than to initiate 
Mm in aHabtt of Intetnpeijnce.' And what Outrages and 
IHbtmcin may not be expected from Men rruiled with 
, and kept from Day co Day. ard (rOm Mooih to 
. in habitual Diunkenoefi by a Decree of tlie Puli^- 
i-ient ,' 
Hit William Yongc. 
S I a. 

• I know not why the Centlemait has thocghc thita pro- jir 
^Opportunity for dilpl;tyinK hi> £'.cx]uecK:e in Che Fiaile Yungc 
ti Ui own Cyder. That he iovei bis owo Country cannot 

\ WwMdered. for 00 Pftflian is more aniverlal, and feu- kit 
tb ht cenfuT^ i but he is not 10 iinagine that the Produce of 
Iw native Sott will be gcncr:illy allowed to excel that uf o- 
Chct Countici. bcciiuie early Hnbiti have endeared it to him. 
tad ^milurilcd ic to his far'.icLtUr Palate. 

' 'I'be Naiivci of every Piacc preier their own FruiM inJ 
tWir own IJquor. srKl theicftirc no Irtetencecan be drawn 
'ri^nt Apptot>.tii«n in apparently piriiil. t'toax this Pteju- 
o.(c I am /ar from (nlpcilirg myicif free, tior am dcfiroin 
<iri(»dul.iioui to overcvuic it : Neither am I afraid of expof- 
iag myftlf to all the Ccnl'ure that !'o ilir-ooen; a Prcpoll'eiriaa 
may bnag upon me, by declaring, th&l» in my Opinion, the 
Cydei ol my native Country ii of rt^tul Excellence with 
Itni which thl« CenUcmtn bat fa libcialty extolled.* 
Vol. VU. D d d Mr. 



( 386) 

Mr. Vclters Cornwall. 

S I R, 

Mr Veltera * ^°* ''"'^ ' expeft Viflory in this Cdntroverfy I havd 
Cornwall. already declared, and I need not obferve of how fmall Im- 
portance it is what Soil produces Cyder of the greateft Ex- 
cellence and Value ; fince if there be other Places where the 
Cyder is equally efteetned. and purchafed at the Tame Rate, 
it is yet more neceflary to jirovide, by rome Exception, thic 
the Soldier fliall not be entitled to demand of the ViAuiJ- 
ler, Liquor to more than thrice the Value of his Piy^ior 
be allowed to revel in continual Orunkennefsi and to cor- 
rupt his Morals, and enervate his Liinbi by inccflknt Dc- 
"bauchery. 

■ 3ut fince. Sir, the Preference due to the Cyder of ny 
Country has been denied, in my Opinion, with great Pir- 
iiatity and Injudice, I think myfelf obliged, by all the Laws 
of Honour and Gratitude, to Hand up once more to vindi- 
cate its Superiority, and aflertita Value. 

' The Laws of Honour, Sir, require this from me, as 
they oblige every Man to fland forth a Vindicator of Merit 
flighted and opprelTed ; and Gratitude calls loudly upon me 
to exert mylelf in the ProtcQion of that to which I have 
been often indebted for a plealin^ Sufperife of Care, and i 
welcome Flow of Spirits and Gaiety. 

* The Cyder. Sir, which I am now rcfcning from con- 
temptuous Coroparifons has often exhileratcd my (bcial Houn, 
enlivened the Freedom of Converfation, and improved the 
Tendernefs of Frtendlhip, and Ihall not therefore now want 
a Panegyrilt. It is one of thofe few SubjeAi on which an 
Encomiall may expatiate without deviating from the Truth. 

< Would the honourable Gentleman, Sir, who has this 
vilified this Wonder-working NeAar, but honour my Table 
with Ms Company, he would quickly be fcrced to retnft 
his Cenfures, and, as many of Iris Countrymen hare done, 
coofefs that nothing equal to it is produced in any other Pan 
of the Globe ; nor will this Confeffioo be the Effeft of hn 
Regard to Foiitenefs, but of his Adherence to Truth. 

< Of Liquor tike this. Sir, two Quarts ia undoubtedly 
fufficicnt fb' A daily Allowance, in the Lieu of Small-beer, 
nor ought even that to be determined b^ the Choke of the 
SoiJier, but of the Inn-keeper, for whole Benefit this Clanfe 
is laid to bk' infertrd, and from whofe Grievances I hope we 
fiisM ro< (ufler our Attention to be diverted by any iocklentat 
QuellioBs or ludicroni Djfputcs.* 

Mr/ 




Mr. Gere. 

Si It. 

• Thu tiMB Allowanee of two QoarU ■ JHy U roKcieni* ^p j-q,^ 
Bid thai «o d— tnd more is a wanton Indulgenct-of Appciioe* 
iacxperioMMAlIj' IcDowr, >nd [hcTeTote ao more ougltc to 
te tmpofcd Dpontht Inn-keepen. 

• Nor 11 thii. Sir. the only Pin of the Claiife that n- 
nrc* oar ContiJrntioQ, for fome of the other PirticuUri, to 
B> provulriJ by the Vi£li»ller. iniiy ealily hroiih prrverfe 
Ttmpcr; with an Opporcunity of wrangling : Vincgtr is not 
(D be b&d m evcr>- Part of the Kingdom ; and nrbcie it da- 
aot be pnxarttl.ogghinotiQ berccjuircd ; fbr i»iihcr Rea- 
foa not Experience will inform us that VtDCgorovgbc to be 
nalt'd maong (he Neccifincsof Life.* 

"•a William Vonge. 

S I R, 

• By the Altcfjtion now made in the CI*olc, the Ion- _. „,,... 
iMpeii Ar« cfiV^iuily iclicved fioni a grCAt Part of the yurvgc ^ 
taota Which, la mr Op.oion, this AQ. has hiiheno laid 
ipon ibcm i the Ncccftity of furnilhing the So^d^en qiur- 
Rt'd upon ibcm With rroviiloai it the fU:cd Price, whacever 
B^ht be thciictici;y uf thcSealonorol the Count;y. That 
An wai the Intrnt^on of the AH. is atfcncJ by (hafe wbofe 
~- '.-oD and Piomotion are lutlicicnt Evjdencei ot their 

■n ihe IntcipreiAtiooor our l^aws. 
' Tut: |iin-!<cfpcr may now either accept or refufe the li- 
niird Prcc.ii' i' (hall appear to him mofl conlilknt with bit 
rntercltt no- lif future any Koom (or tnur- 

ttttftej; X'. 'T ii, fincc he may uUigc chat 

S»i Ti Ii« cAtUiQt iuiiiyt 10 plcafe liimfcif Utter at 

bji I ■ , ~ncc. 

• i 6c Choice of the Ufjuor it likewife wholly referred to 
lie Thfi-krcpct i for the Wordi in the Cl.iufc rct^uiring, that 
l< r, I iTfi three QuaiC; ufSmall B<cr, ot Crtirr, heooai> 
;. - b'v vvi;ti the I^w by Jupplying cither; aiw) 
the;' Cyder in any particular Couniiy ji 
"■■ I .. ...1..C m the QueQiun before u) ; ifCyder 

' valQiible than Small Beer, it may be withheld ; if 
,. ^ ...tjper, it may he fubllitutcd in iti Piacci (o that thi 
[J[iB-kceper his noiLtng to cunlultbul his own Interet). 

• I'bat this it the meining qf ibe Claare, ii, I fuppofe, 
rioui to every Mao that bear» it read, and thcreiorc I fee 

Reafon for any Alterations, becaule 1 know not any 
IfVeA which they can poffibly have, caceptthatof obfcuring 
tec Scafc which ia now too clear to be nuAalwiu' 

Ddd 2 Sir 



("388 ) 

Sir John Barnard. 
S I R. 

fir John * ThoLii;'i it (hauld be granted tliat the Claufe before u! ii 

Bunaril. intelligible to every Meirber of this Aflembly, it will ru 

certainly follow, that there is no Neceffity of farther Klu* 
cidatior.s ; for a Luw, very eaOly underliood by thofe uho 
make it, may be obicure to others who are Ufa acquajoied 
with our general Intention, lere ski'ed ia the Niceiiet of 
X^ngusge. or lefb accullomed to the Stile of Laws. 

< Jris to be confideird, that this Law will chiefly aFeft 
a Ci^'- jf Men \eiy liale inltiu^led in Literature, and very 
unzb''^ ■■ ■ "iraw Intcrenres ; Mt!., to whom we ortcD find il 
nccL-lCiry ... common Calea to ur F-xpbnatioDs, and faailiat 
T!iii(traiions,iLiiu of whom it mi/ lociwunreafonably fufprAed, 
t- .: r.-ne Want of Education, which makea them igno- 
I'iiLi., '.. . -' ::n petulant, and at Once incline thrm to 

urp.rii^:*' ' ^' '■ '^ 'Ti of the Means of deciding their 

Coniiovi;.li;s. 

■ Tl<at both liiii-hu>iut.t' w.-i Soldiers are, for the greatcft 
Part, of this Rank avA ^inipcr. 1 fuppofe, Sir, every Gentle* 
in'<n knr)ws from A-Auy ULfeivaiion, and tiierefore it will, I 
hope, be tl.oxght ncc'iT.iy lo dcfcend to (heir UnderfliBd- 
jng), i^nd to give tlitrm I. >ws in lerms of which they Will 
know the meaning; we (htll otherwifc more conluttthc In- 
tf rcll of tlic L'jU ycrt th n the Inn-holdei s i and only by ou 
Alteration produce a Ncceifity of another. 

• ] am [hercfure delirous. Sir, that all the Difficulties, 
which have been mentioned by every Gentleman on ftis Oc- 
cafiuo, (hould be removed by clear, familiar, and determinate 
ExprcfTions ; for what they hive found difiicult, may eafily 
be to an Inn-holder or Soldier abfolutely inexplicable. 

* I cannot but dcclare.while I am (peaking on this SubjfA, 
tiiat, in my Opinion, two Qnarts of Liquor wilt be a luffi- 
cient Allowance, if we conTider the Demands of Nature, 
more cannot be required ; if we examine the Expence of the 
Inn-holder, he ought not to fupply Soldiers with a greater 
Qiumi:y for nothing. It is to be remembered, that Small- 
beer, like other Liquors, is charged with an Excife in Public 
lioufes, and that two Quarts will probably coft the Landlord 
a Penny; and as we cannot fuppofe, that Fire. Candles, Vine- 
gar, Salt, fepper, and the Uleof iheUtenfils. and Lodging, 
can be furnilh'd for lefs than Three-pence a Day, every Sol- 
dier that is quartcr'd upon 3 Public Houfe, may be confider*d 
as a Tax ot fix Pounds a Year; a heavy Burthen ! which 
Utc]y ought pot to be aggravated by unRcceflkiy Impofitioni.' 

The 



( 389 ) 

The Comroitiee having gone thro* the Bill, and rcttled the 
Asaadmcmt, the Chtuoiaa wai ordered to make hit Re- 
port Ibe next Dif. 

Accordingly the fsid Repoft was ibeo read, and the A- 
RcadmcBU to the CUufei in Debate, wnich then ran thut: 

Thxt the Officen nod Soldiers to be quartered and bit- 
kudfti aforeraid, Iball be received, and fnrailhcd with Diet 
Md Smail-Beer hy the O^Bcrs of the Ions, Livery -Siabk-i, 
Ale-Hacfcf, V'i^tu^tlling llourcs, &c. paying and illowiDg 
far tbc (amc the feveritl Rjitct mentioned. 

Pfotided, That in cafe the Ian-holder, on whom any 
NWconinifnon Officers nr Soldiers Ihall be qoanered by 
vifOC of (bii Act, {except on a March) fhall be dcGrout to 
fafaift fach Officers or Soldiers with Caodlei, Vinegar, and 
Sail, aod with eirher Small. Beer or Cydvr, noc exceedtng 
thtcr Qitam for each Man a Day, gratis, and to allow ihea 
the C(c of Fite, aoJ the nccciTiry DtenGls for dreffing aisd 
catiag their Meat, aiKl fliitl give Notice of fuch his Dchre 
la tike comnixnding Ufliccrs, and fliall (arniOi and allow 
ihOD the fame accorJingty; then. Kod in Tuch CaJe, the 
MoAcocimitTion Officers nnd Soldiers foqoiriercd fhall pro- 
rule ifacir own ViiSaali, and the Officer co whom it belongs 
n receive, or that doei adually receive the Pjy and SubBf- 
mcv of fuch Non cainmiDion OlHcers and Soldiers, (ball 
P>f tbc fevcral Slims, payable out of the Subfiltencc^Money 
fee Diet and Small Beer, to the Nod comnilHon Oflicers 
Utd Sotdtenas afurciaid, and not to the Inn holder, or oiher 
fWoo oa whom fucb Non coraDiffioa Ofltcera or SoJdien 
■ra qoartetcd. 

The Queflion being pnt, whether this Claufe (houM ftand 
.c1m>, Mt. Caiew Tpoke to this £jli;d: 

S t a, 
' Tlio* It may pcrtiapslieallowrd, that the Circumfla.D«t **''■ 
of o«r picfcDt Situation oblige us to fupport a more numc' 
rottt Artny in former Years, fuiely no Argument can be 

Bwo frooi ibcm ilut can Ihcw the Neceiiity of a profitle 
owaacc to our Soldiers, or of gntifymg their Dcfircs hy 
Oppreflioti of the Inn-holden. 
U, Sir, the Defigru of our Eoemics are fo malicious, 
tbrtr Power fo formidable, as to demand AogmeotitioDf 
Mir I'roops, and Addiiioiia to our naturulSecuritiet, they 
aaghlftirely to imprefaupon ui the Ncctlfiiyof frugal Mea- 
loM*. that no ufclcJi Burdeok mty be imposed upon ib« 

* T» 



Cntw. 



( 390 ) 

F To furnKh two Quarts of Beer, Sir, every Day fat dq< 
thing, h undoubtedly an Impofitton fufliciently grievoas, anil 
I can, therefore, dil'covcr no Reafon for which an Allow- 
ance of three fhould be ellablilhed ; a Propofal injurious to 
the Viftualler, becaiife it exifli more than he can afFord to 
allow ; and of r.o Bcuclitto the Soldier, becaufe it offers him 
ciore than he can want.' 

^ Sir Williani Vongc. 

S I R, 

;ii( Wil^ii^n * ^f 'C >' ''"1 InHance of Mifcondiitl to fpend upon aaf 
Vt^pS*^- Affair iDore Tinie than the Importance of it dcfcrves, I am 

afraid lli3t the Cl^ule to which our Attention is now recalled 
may expofc us to Cenfure, and that wc may be charged wilJi 
negleiUng weighty ConiroverGe^, and national QueUioni, to 
flebate upon Tniles; of wafting our Spirits upas SubjeCti 
unworthy of Contention ; of delcattng the Expe£tatioos of 
the Public, and diverting our Eiiemisb rather thaa oppofiag 
them. 

' £ut, Sir, as nothing hat a more itnmcdiate Tendency lo 
the Security of the Nation than a proper Eflabliftinicnt of 
OHT Forces, and as the Regulation of their Quarters, is one of 
the moll necellary and difficult Paris of the Eflablilhnieat, it 
19 requifttc that we think no Queilion of this kind too trivial 
for our Confideration, {i.nce very dangerous DiilorbaDcei 
have often been produced by petty Dilputes. 

' The Quantity, Sir, of Small-Beer lo be allcwed by the 
Viuiiitllfr to thole Soldiers who fli:i[l ptovide their own V'ic- 
ti;al£, wi>g dit^|tutc-d Yeilerday, and, as 1 thought, agreed 
upon ; but fince this Spirit is revived, I muA take the Op* 
poiLuni'y to declare that we ought not to a^ign lefs than 'three 
Qu^rt!. a Dny to bach Man; for it is to be remembered hw 
fhoi'e who eliiirate the Demands by their own, how mitcn 
their w:iy of Lite is different from that of a common Sol- 
fTicr. and how little he can be charged with WantODsefi anil 
Supeifxui:y, ib; dri;iking more fmall Liquor chifl tbem- 
Jelves. 

\ There are few Members of this Houfe, who do not, 
inore than once a Day, drink Tea, Coffee, Chocolate, or 
fpTRe other coding and diluting Infufion; Delicacies wluch 
the Soldier cannot purchafe, to which he is entirely a Stiu- 
gcr. End of which the Place iDuil be fupplied by fome other 
Vheap and wh^jlToire Liquors. 

* My Sir, t^cfe Gentlemen, whole clofe Atteptioo to the 
ifHteiei* o\ the f iio-hcld^r has perhaps abftrii<\ed them, ia 
ibmc Degree, from any Regard to the Neceffities of a So^ 
^i;^ wiil k:c\ifc!it to allow Lira five Pints a Day, I dull coa- 

rciMl 




( 39« ) 
^uA so lont^cr : for ibo' I cinnot agree ttiat it Ui rufficlenf 
?loTifi<ni. yet. ai other Gendemen cqoally able to jaige tn 
tkh iMbirci with myk\f. are of a tliffcreoi Opinion, I (hull 
fcr» my R«gwd fur their Senitments,by dcfiitiagfrom Op- 
fokuov. * 

Lmtl BaltJRioT?. 
S I «, ^ 

* J im not Bblc to difcovcr sny Ne«flity of compforfiir- io't^ 
bgtliit Octuie, by »k.in£ the Mean liecwcrcu tlic iwo uiff^- B«lriinorE 
mt Optnront, or for dcn/tng la ciie So dicrs whkt every 
Li^M.-cr «[ Serving m»ti wouiJ murmur to be refured fur a 

»eve. Sir^ every Gcotleman who examine) the Ex- 

hiiKimily. will find that each of hit Strvanii cun> 

ily at leallihicc Quam of Small Beer, and lu'cly rt 

■je lequired that A&oMiet fhou'd live in i perpetnal 

.M^x 1,-t ^ar witi) hji Contttiution, BDd ft conilui Joability 

MfiOBpIy with the Calls ol Natiuc' 

Gecenl Handy&dei 

5 1 R, 
■ TS< IncTinMJoo Acwn by feveral Gtnliemen &r i pe- Gcntfal 
hm'4 anj fcantv Pfovifioo (or the Soldier, mult, in my HandfUtv. 
pfi — proceed trom an inatteottve Coalliieriiiioq o| hit 
^ and will therefore be removed by layini^ before them a& 
Aonani of hit Conditiooi and comparing bli daily Pjy with 
kit daily E^tpcntei. 

• The whole Puy of a Foot Soldier, Sir, ii fid. a Day, of 
vKxh he ij to pay 4.4. to bit Landlord for bis Diet, or, 
«bac i< very n«»r)y the I'ame, tocury 4d. daily (oihe Kfat- 
kr:, fnr ' ' 'W fma|I a Supply of Pruvlfioni he cati 

biii^to^ ii. ctp:ci:*Ily m limeof Swrciiy, I need 

■«imtat*oo. • 

' Tbcrr fefn«in then only T«o-"pence, Sir, to be diftnTwted 

lor Thiagi not immediately receffiiry (or rhc Prcfcrvaiion of 

flA, but which on Man Can want without being defpicable 

to others, and bu'thenlome to bimfelf. T^vo pence a Day ii 

jail tiat a Sotdier hii to lay out upon Cleanlinc^ and Dccea- 

ley, tad with which he 11 litrcwt^e to keep hii Armi in Or- 

.11^ t., I'.Mioln litmlclf wt[h fome Part of hisCIoathingi 

Dcduttiont, lie r^ from rwn.pence a Daf 

u-r.. ^ ..ac Mcaci of enjoying u few Momcnlt io the 

'with hit Oampanronn oircr a Cap of Ale. ii not htf 

rtxtuu [T)-Jch more to be envied than hit Luxury t Or 

c»a it be c^ui ,tJ upon him that be enjuy: more than hilt 

;8bareof ii->* f^nKiiy of L^kf Ii he to be burdened #iih 

Cxpcbcci Irll be Iboald hwrd up cb* public Motcy^ 

flop 



( 39^ ) 
ftop tbe Circulation of Coid, aod euro ^n^t et Ufnrer 
with Tno-pence s Day ? 

< I have been (o long acquainted, Sir, with the SoUtCt'i 
CharaAcr, that I will adventure tofecure him from the CJurp 
of Avarice, and to promile that whatever he (hall poflcfs not 
neceflary to Life, he will cajoy to the Advaouge of hii 
Landlord.' 

Mr. Campbell. 
Sir, 

Mr. Campbell. * I am far froin intending to oppofe this PropoftI of five 
Pinti, though, upon a rigorous Examination, it might appear 
more than the mere Wants of Nature require, for I cannot 
bat declare that this Queftion has too long engaged ihe At- 
tention of the Houlc, and that the Reprdenutives of a 
mighty Nation, befet with £nemiei, and encumbered with 
Difficulties, feem to ferget their Importance and their Dig- 
nity, by wrangling from Day to Day upon a Pint of Snail- 
beer. 

* I conceive the Bill which we are now confideriag, Sir, 
not as a perpetual and Handing Law, to be inrer-woveo with 
our Conltitution, or added to the Principles of our Govern- 
ment, but as a temporary Eftabliftiment for the prcfeot Year ; 
an Expedient to be laid afidewhen our Aftalraceafe to require 
it ; an expcrimenul Eflay of a new PraAice, which may be 
changed or continued according to its Succefs. 

< ToaUow, Sir, five Pints of Small beer a Day to obi Sol- 
dieri for a lingle Year can produce no formidable iDConveai- 
encies, and may, though i[ (hould not be entirely approved, 
be of lefs Diladvantage to tbe Public than the Wafte of ano- 
tber Day. 

An Alteration was made to Five Pints inRead of three 
Quarts, and ihe Bill, thus amended, was ordered to be en- 
grofliEd ; and a few Days afterwards being read a third lime 
was pafTcd, and ordered to the Lords. 

The Claufe being read. That the Jullices of Pace Ihall, 
npon proper Application. ilTue out Warrants to the Coalla- 
bies, &c. to fearch by Day or Night, for all fuch ScanMn or 
fealaring Men as (hall withdraw or conceal thcinfelTei with- 
in their refpeflive Jurifdiflions. and for this Purpofe to make 
a general Search, in which it Ihall be lawful for then CO en- 
ter any Houfe, where they Hiall fufpeA fuch Seaaea to he 
concealed, and if Entrance be not readily admitted then, 
to force open the Doors of fuch Houfe, in order to mke 
fuch Search.— —And that whoever Hull preftime tohaifaoor 
or conceal any fuch Seamen, or wilfliily do any thine to 
hinderor fruArate the Seatch, for every fuch Offence mall, 

(here 




Lonl Gagt flood up ud fpoke to the ra]lowing ESt&. 
Mr. Spnkcr. 

> I annec fit In thit Pliic«, >nd hnr Tucb a Giafe read, x.or.1 Gmp« 
viUkout dccUrinj; rnyfcl/igiintl it i bcciul'e J thick ic »bto' 
bid/ incanliltent witb the Liberties of. my Caanifjr. An 
Eaflilhnun'a Hook his alwny* been faid to be hit Caflle : 
N« Man ii 10 enter into it without hit Leave, unteA there be 
I tronj; SulpiciOD of bU having been guilty of fome very 
vnc 'ric. and ihut Sul~f>icion decliired upon Oath by 

fam^ ■-> ol good Credit. Uui by ibii Clnufc. the 

Boole (it cicry Man in England 11 to be laid open, both by 
Diiravd by Night, to all ibe petty Conllablcs in his Ncigh- 
lovbood It'luch a Cluifc (hould paU into a Lav, cin «njr 
ilM in EogUnd be f:iid to be free i On any ManV I'ropertjf 
be iudto be fife ; cfpeciaUy when we comider the Qiau£l«r 
d'»lny of thoicwbo ferfe the UlSce ol CodOjUIc iur Hire? 
* Thii, Str. would be of fuch dangeron* Confrquencc to 
the Prftpeniei n* well as Ute Libcrcici or the Sur^jefl, that no 
Kacefiity on juilify otir pftOing fiich n Law ; and the only 
ineat I h«vc heard madeufc of in in Favour, is rather. 
Opinion, an Argument ncainll it. When this Bill 
iiA bfoaght in, wc were roTd. ai xn Argument for it, 
there WIS fuch a Liw piflMl in the ;th VearofQuecii 
IC • but M that Law i"Hb(it)ed for » Yesr only, nad ai ic 
Li neither coniinued nor revived, it it looie a convincing 
^roof, tbjt (be Ijwwh found inconvrnient and daogeroM, 
Out U wa« found DOE to .-inl'wer the Pinpofc intended, nnd 
1 wa agjiicit ityiog tbe Eaperuncni a fecand 



Sir Cfcarlei Wager. 

• Ai it i> hardly polTiblt fo contrive uiy Law for the pub- Sir Chitles 
iSinrke, ihatnmv not 4eem ir^oevenient tu privj<lc Men 1 Wager. 

I SI if) foch a numcrom AfTemhly, ibe/c mult be a great 

rantty at Scniimriiti. I txpcttrd, when thtt Bill ujii fxit 

jbc in, 10 h««r >t '>ppoleo, ftrTiiMv by :hoic (.ictitlc- 

•Ko bA(jpeit aE pretent to h.i • 'i* m onr r\dmini* 

bvciulc iJiey irc iK^c Icm . : ij>Si-u't>« that 

I be mtlwlth in providing fut tlic |iublic Sctvrce. even 

Pailiameni hai j^rtrvUU the :>unif nrcelLuy for tint 

i(t t to wbich''! jDOlt add, that they ire gttxraJIy but 

£ c c coo 



( 394 ) , 

too jnloai of the Liberdci of the Subjeft, which makci tbcin 
take the Alarm at every Thing that looka like an ExtcmfiaD 
of the Powera of our Goveroment, however necefikry that 
Extenlion may be for the Eafe or Safety of the People. 

' This, Sir, is the Cafe at prcfent. Every Ge«Iem» 
mull grant, that hii Majefty's Navy ought to be nann'di be- 
caofe without Men it can be of no Service to the Nation ; but 
as the Law now Hands, our GoTemment labours under infu* 
perable Difficoliiei in providing a fufficient Number of Sea- 
men for the Service of the Navy. They have cried Prcfiag : 
They have tried Embargoes : They have tried evevy Me- 
thod the Law admits of. without Succcfs t and I do not « all 
wonder at iti lor when a Seamen expcAi 3/. a Month in the 
Merchant Service, I do not wonder at hii endeavouring to 
avoid being preffed into his Majefly's Service, where he hti 
but a little more than toi. He does thia by abfcondiag and 
concealing himfelf till he finds tn Opportaatiy tor entering 
into the Merchant Service, and therefore thofe now employ- 
ed in oar Government find it abfoluteiy necclliiry for them 
to have a Power to fearch for and apprehend foch Seamen, 
either by Night or by Day, and to break open Doors* if Ad- 
mittance Ihould be denied to the Civil Officer. 

' This Power, 'tis true, Sir. if it were to be made 1 bad 
Ufe of, might, like all other Powers, prove tronbleliime and 
inconvenient to theSubjrCl} but whilJl it is properly ulcd, 
it can be inconvenient to none but thole whoconceal Seamen 
in their Houfes, or at teaft to fuch as give Sufpicion of their 
doing fo, which can never be the Cafe of any Man of Rank 
or Ftgtire in the Kingdom 1 and in modelling this Clanfe, all 
polGble Care has, I think, been taken to prevent this Pow- 
er's being made an improper or bad Ufe of; for the JuAjccs 
of Peace, before they can order a Search fbr Seamen, mult 
hive an Aathority from the Admiralty, and after theyikave 
this Authority, they are to iffliie their Orders, not to a Prefa- 
Gang, or Officer of the Navy, but to the Conflafalcs. who 
are always luch as live in the Neighbourhood, andbeisgwel] 
known, might ealily be profecutcd and punifhed, OionU they 
any way milbehave in the Execution of their OfBce. 

' 1 cannot therefore, Sir, form to myfelf nny Apprehea- 
fion, or imagine the leaft Danger from our paffing thit Claufc 
into a Law. A Man's Houfe will ftill behii Caftic : Sboald 
rhis CUufe pafs into a Law, no Man's Hoofe could be forced 
open, unleU he is guilty of a Crime, or has by Ibme Mifcon- 
du£t given Caufe to fufpeA his being guilty. I fiiy guilty of 
a Crime, Sir; for, I think, it is « very great CSnle in any 
Man to withdraw himfelf from the Service of his Country, 
when the Safety, perhaps the very Being c^ his Country de- 
pend* 



( $95) 

■pOA bit Service; ind therefore I mall l^ink it & 

tA a TCTy bcnious Natnre in ihofe who conceal Sea- 

16 witfadnwing from the Service of the Crown : The 

Safety as much require*, and, io my Opinion, tbey 

w nBch deiem to be expofed to the D;inger of liaving their 

Uaafc* fcarciicd, or their Doors forced open, as thoTe tbit 

ItdXMirThtevei, or conceal (lolen Goods ; aod tfao'tbe Pow- 

ir of fintching the Houfes of fuch Criminal!, or riir)>cf!cd 

OiininaU, and breaking open their Doors in Cafe of Non< 

mlmttOMOt, hit been eltablifbed for Agei, >ci it has never 

huB (oand ioconvenieat to innoctot Men, or dingcrotu to 

Ite LibcfiietoftheSubjed. 

• I believe, Sir, no Gcitilcman ntll fuppofe that thofc who 
•m employed in our Adminifirarion, in the {th Year of the 
Uu Qiiecs, had any Dcfigni agsitift the Liberties of their 
Loontrr. 1 believe, it will b: venerally &dmtiicd, they had 
aipcat a Regard for both the Uberticsaed Properties of their 
fUfe* 6«bieAi. at my Adminiftratieo ever had. yet they 
nurivcd and got psAed fccb a Law ai b now propoted. 
TUi iheurs . it wat not thea thought, that ft)ch a Law would be 
efdaagcroui Coo^cqaeoee to the Properties, or an Encroach- 
mau npoa the Ltberties of the Subject i ftnd if that Law 
maaoi uoiiBued or revived, ii w3s aot becaufe of any la- 
CDnvcDiettte found in it, but becaufe there wai noOcoaftoa 
iir contiottiDg or reviving it. There can sever be any Occa- 
fiai hr foch a Law, but at, or fooa after the Beginning of a 
War, iwr when we are ingaged with an Kocmy pcHc^d of 
ft very great aava) Force ; am) as the naval Power of France 
ted bcea fo much broke in the Beginning of tbit War, that 
Attf (Iv/l never afterwards fiiceui at Sea, %ve bad no Occa- 
fioa for coatiouingor reviving thia I^u- at any Time after 
tht Year 1706. 

* Th«Ca(i;,Sir, may now bethefiune: If we p:i ft the Law 
•ow propofcd, it will be of great nod immediate Service with 
■■gard to the Manning hit MajeAy't Navy 1 and if we (hould 
Bahc it to (ubfcl but for a Year, thert may probably be 00 
Oacafiofl forc(»iiBuia| fe; or, if there ttioutd, we may con. 
liMi k htti from Year to Year, till tb> Occafioa we have for 
it cures; fothat I can apprcbend do Banger fron our paf^ 
fiag u iA the Form iiftiadi at prcTcni, and ai I can think of 
■••ilicr Method for mnaine the Ships wc have now in 
iSnBBitfiioo, I mull ihmfbf* dc for the Clanfc, and 11 it is 
— ceflary at this immediste junfturt, 1 hope it will be paficd 

Law.* 

6ir John BamtnJ, 

lit. 

* The Nuure aitd Coafcfjuencei of thtClaule now auler $it joha Bac 



3 



( 39« ) 

our Confi^dtJon. uere fo fully exptaiofd spos A» 
Reading orcbuCJl.thikt llhouU iKKt)av« gnt» f9mr%lia^ 
ble upoa tbii OccAfioo. but ai tm nl ArguiDCOb wcf« Mi 
thrown our. by way cf Ani'wer to the ObJKAiea* I iui mi 
to the Bill^to which I had noc thcD an Oppofionit* taasUa 
any Reply , I (hiU now begLcav< to Oie'W tkc WciJuefrtf 
thole Argumenii, and toioiarcc the ObjcAiOOi I dia tait^ 
which to me appear the llrtingcr. the more I ooa fc do ito 
Nature of this UiH. rfpccully when I compare it wHJldi 
Nature of our Conllituclon, sod (onriikr tt>c V(e ihMMf 
be made ofil by £ MioiQei, who relolvcs to Krvc «a JtfMB 
of Prace io any Coaoiry, bui I'ucb s> will yield > bind Olfr 
dicnce to ha Ordcn 

■ We were told. S:r, thit priv^ie Jntercfi miia il«>i>> t^ 
way to the public ; that the Xiaonins of tbv tio\ 
z public Concern of the grcatcll Coi.'fa^t-T:cr .in 
fore every private Inierelt auH be i 
camc)ab(oIuttIy neceflary todo fo. i. ■-».,. «f,... 
GcndetncQ, if they thiok ihe Trade oftbc Nan 
Concern ? VVfait Gemletncn may do who have locf*.'-'- : .— 
or Employrnenit uoder the Crown [ do ooi know * tMl 
fare, if out laodcdGcntIcm«ii do not lock upon Trair 
public Iniercd. ihcy «ill very foon fictd thctr prmLrli 
vciy mvcliditninilhed. and in fome f'.aas zlawA tmutttf 
nihilsced. It ta from our Trade, Sir, wc bare 
cur ?cwer, our Navy, and oui Somen : aad 
Hiould tofc our Trade, either by NrglcA. or by 
10 intuffenible Hardl^ipi, we Ihoutd MVC bo 
fuch a law as ia now propoftd. foi im (booM atit 
SeaoiCTi, Dor Si.ips to put Seamen on board of Oi> 
baa already fuffcred very confiticrably by (be Mok^ 
have calcen for mafining our Navy, aiwl by thv Bdt f«l 
put an End to the very Breed of our Scajocn t ibtH ' 
will goto Sea, or breed btrafcif up a Sailor, whn b 
ierit that, by the Iavh of hii Counuy.be tbcreby 
bTe [o be prd&d, whenever a Miultcr IbUl ulu 
Hcjd to li; out a Squadron, cither fat Shew ot Servi 
that if he conceals bimliilf. he uiobi hustcd aim 
ivcre .1 rr.iiitnfjr. Felon. 

* ' v.-gumtct made ufe of to Pftvoaeof- 

wai, ll.- ;. ^te a great Nuaiuer vi'SaUor*livi 

dowo the Cquciry, and that there aic u Ictft 6ooo 

itioyed in our CoaUinj Trade. A* to the SaJ)ivt 
urktngin rheCoaniiy, and um^illinp to enter either 
Merchant Sir vice, or the ^r vice of the "'--■■ ' ^ 
couiJ be apprehended, if ihey cannot t-" 
ward offcretl bjF ihil fiUI, to enter iotohu .>Mje.:j ii^jvioff 



( 397 ) 

I do not bctiavc there is any great Number of ihem { aiM), 
ifure. BO Gentieman oflbJ! Iloufe can u'iih good Rea- 
t«£nn (here is t Tor if be couii, Jir mutt then know where. 
It (bey are to be met with, a' d in that Care he would 
Hcuinly gtve the Goveromcnt Notice of it, to tlie BnJ the/ 
V%^t be apprchL-nded and fcDl on boird the Navy. That 
tkreare a ifmi Nuinhrr of Somen forking in e^e Coua* 
t theirfoTC t«ke to be a league AOertion, mide uTc of to 
favour ufthii B<|1, without any Iblid Foundation ; and the 
Mr Aficrtton uf there bciag at leaA 6000 Seamen employ- 
SCtcr Coalling Trade ii, 1 am convinced, without the 
Foundation. 1 do not believe, Sir. there is a fuurtfa 

ihe Number, able-bodied, expert Seamen, employed 

Hrar Coalting Trai^e : for brftdes the Mailer, ourCoafling 
[VfCr't fcVom hAvc above one or twofuch Seamen on bojrd, 
! Mil ol'ihe Crew beirg made up of old Seamen obnve ^^ 
an of Age, young Smnea under 18, Apprentices to the 
Wafcf , Bod Landmen that were never perhaps before it Sraj 
Hd U iK> Coallirg Veflel can fafely venture to Sea. wiihoat 
•DC o( two able bodied, expert Seamen on board, belide the 
Idifler, if jrou (hould take from them fuch as are now em* 
ytofcd ia that Trade, yon would put an entire Stop to it at 
oner, th« Confetiuencei of which would fooo become terrible, 
fffecmily here at London, where the People are under a Ne- 
of having a continual Supply from alnofl every Cor* 
rr of l^e Kingdom, 

I am theiefore convinced, Sir, ihoold tbii CUufebe paf- 

racD a Law, ihii its Authors and Advocttei Should And 

tfeivrt very much miflaken as to its EfilA. It might, 

ikap*. force fome of our belt Seaitieo into foreign Service, 

^pcrmlly fuch ai have been employed in the CalUIndta 

TmSc. but [ cannot think it would add any great Number 

to tlK Nivy ; ind I am the more convinced of tbii, from 

wliai I have )iurd as to ihcEifcAof that Bii| which was paf- 

(ed into a I^w in the jth ot the late Queen, and which was 

ol Lbc Lame Nature with thi>; for I have been informed, 

t^at, b}- Mcan»oI that Bill, they at tliat Timegot but a ftnall 

Nembvr of Snmen, which wai the RcaCon of iii not hiving 

beta cwilinucd . AithatMiniflry had, I believe, as great a 

RcMflifbt the Liberties and Propertwi of their Fellow Sub< 

jcwaasay MiniUcr can have, thi» waj with them a prevailing 

It tor not infilling upon the Law's being continued 1 

arc not to expcA the likeCondefcerfion from every 

r.and uicitmuch cafier to prevent a Bill'lbeing palTed 

itoa Law, than to prevent the Law's being continued, I (hall 

I«-ays be againfl tnitlingMiQittcrs, even with a temporary 

Law, wbkb X think daoMrou»io our Confiitotion, howev«r 

^ j)laufibl« 



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fome wiy or other oaght to be remedied as foon ai poSble 
but fureljr this Grievance may be renunred without patting 
it ID the Power of a petty Canftabtc to harrafs and oppreft 
the baft GentlemaD, or erea the greatcfi Lord in his Ncigb- 
boarhood, which would be the Cafe, jf this CliDfie flioaU 
pafs into a Law, as will appear to every Gentlemin, who 
impartially conftdera the Words of the CUule. 

< The jafttces of Peace, it is true. Sir, mall have an y|ii- 
thority from the Admiralty, before they can ifliie their Or- 
ders for a general Search for Seamen, and the ConAablesottft 
" have their Orders from the JuRices, before they can go vpoo 
that Search ; but thofe Orders are not to fpccifjr the Hodci 
they are to fearch : The Orders are to be general ; and when 
a petty Conflable is pit>Tided with fuch a general Oder, and 
a Prefs-Gang proper for his Purpofe, whatever it may be, may 
not he infift upon fearching the Houfe of any Gentleman, or 
any Nobleman in the Neighbourhood i May not he bitak 
open the Gates and the Doors of the Houfe, if the Servants 
■ ihould refafe to give him Admittance upon the firft Word of 
Command f This, Sir, is fuch an unlimited Power, and it 
lodged in a Pcrfon of fuch a low Charifter, that I an fiir- 
prizcd how it could enter into any Miniller's Head to think, 
that aBritilh Parliaoicot would approve of it. laafoic, I 
{hall moft heartty give it my Negative, and I hopr, even the 
Gentlemen who brought in the Bill, will agree lo leave oat 
this Claufe, when they confider fcriouOy the CooreqoeDCCS 
it may be attended with.' 

Sir William Yonge. 
S I a. 
Sir Williai?} ' ^V ^^^ Complaints within Doors, and the CUlnoars 
Vongc. without, it would Icem as if People thought, that War might 

be carried on without expofing our Trade to the lead lacoo- 
venience or Danger, which every conljderate and impartial 
Man mult allow to be impolQble. That of drawing ■ gial 
Number of Seamen out of the Merchant Service, and coafe- 
qucntly raifing Seamens Wages in that Service, isone of thofe 
Inconveniences, that cannot be avoided at the Beginning of 
a War, efpectally after a long Trail of peaceable Times; 
and as thole entrulled with the Admin illration of oar public 
Affiirs cannot engage Seamen to enter into the King's Service, 
by iocrealing their Wages, they mult hsve recourie lo Pref* 
fing, in which no regular Method can be obfervedj lor when 
the Service rtquire^ it, they muA prefs all they can find, 
without regard to their having been for a long or • fliort 
Time at S», before their being prelicd into the King's Scr. 
vice. 

The 



( 4or ) -^ 

tlie Ofilf [WO Methods I hi»e ever honTSfforprewnt- 

t*% ihcfc locoiivcniciicies. arc, to kerp a gte4[ Numltcr of 
SomcD, eYcn in Time of 'Peace, in ccoiinual fay, snd to 
ti«e « gm«nl Rrgitler for oar Seamen, It we h»d kept 20 
at ;o.oco Sckmrn in cootioLal Pav and continual Service, 
Airtng; ihc mftnjr Yean we liivc been in profound Pence, we 
fiwold row have no Oecafion to dr>w tny great Number t> 
wtf from our Tr«de ; but this would hive, retren Veari ago, 
btca exciaimcd agatnfl, u putting the Nation to an Kxpence 
that vn\ bnth urnecclTafy and dangerous: And if we 
Wd yetrly fitted and lent out a powerful S^uadroa, for no 
•chcr Reafon but (o exercifc our Seamen, and prevent (betr 
faigciting their Trade, it would have been ridiculed, and cal- 
nuking a Raree-Shew of t?ur Squjtiron and Seamen. 
« Then. Sir, » to a Rc;^fler for Seamen, it is certain. th« 
t^e Ci^vciDmcnt had an Account of ail the Seamen in the 
Bnufli Dominions, snd could call upon fuch of ihrm as they 
ptofcd, to come in and lerve on board the Ropl Navy, the 
Admirattf would never have Occafton to iCTue any PreffWar- 
rutt, nor lolorceany Seaman to lerve out of his Turn, or 
loiger than bis Turn. There would then be no Occafion to 
cms Men out of a Merchmt-Shipjull returned from 1 long 
Voyage, nor for [urning over a Crew from one Mai) of V\ar 
n another. Butilitjoi'a Rrgillcr too, we are told, woutd 
bt d4agffoui (o our Conlliiutior>, ar>d would make Slaves of 
Our Seamen. Thm, Sir. fome Gentlemen are daily com • 
plaiaiog of the Hirdlhips to which our Trade and our Sea- 
vn Bre<-xpo(ed, ^nd yet they will neither propofe, nor agree 
IS any of the Melhodi that are proposed for preventing it» 
beiac neccfljry to lubje^i our Trade and our Seamen to tbolie 
HarvAiipi- i'o dcFend our own Coalli in time of War. wa 
StdA httvc Squidrooi at Sea, or ready to put to Sea ; lopro- 
ir6t ovr Trade, we mull have a great Number ofCruiiei? 
•odCoovoy%at Sea ( to attack or arruy theKocmy. we mud 
(c»d powctfjl Squadron! upon their Coafti. II any of thefe 
Scrvkci were ticgle^ed. ihofe that are not in oar Govern* 
M OMttt woul I cxcaim againlk ihoic that are, and tbey wouM 
H Jdvc Reij'in to exclaim ; when thole that are m our Gove rn- 
K f^t auke ulf-cf the only Mrans they have in tbeir Power 
I for fupplying thofc Scivicci, the Gcotlemen that happen noC 
to be concerned in our Guvcrnmcnt complain of ibetr Coa- 
dud, aad lay, they unneccniirily harraU our Trade, aod op> 
^rcfl our Sinimen I and when thotc that are in our Govem- 
mcet ('rupdle the edabliQiing uf other Mcthodf for lupply- 
JPC thote Serrlccf, tAofe that nre not in our Govcrnmmt 
«ik« tb« AUnn and iiiy, they arc going to overturn our 
Contliiulbn. 

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' Thrfe. Sir, ire the CircumAsncei we now term to be ib : 
Thde are v<e Ci>cutnfianccs we have been long in ; ind 
whilft ue are in ihefi- CiTCumflstKes, we can never expeft w 
to br rafy n hcmr, or to tnike a F'gure abroad ; therefore, 
] wifli Gent'cmen would lay alidethrirjealoufies and KearSt 
aiid cancu<- hearti'y and fi.iccretjr in a 1 Meafurcs that (tcm 
to i-m netiir>rv fur rnib'ing u* to aft with Vigour in our 
r Mon.] C^iaciiy. Evrry Vlaii defirt-c to have the public 
Si ivict pc'firme: : Every Man defires to have the pub.'ie 
Wa^t^ (upp ice) ; but Tew are willing to contribute their diie 
S^:irc eith'T of L'boT ur Expence: The Government miift 
br- invelled with fuch Powers as are nccefiary for compelling 
tlioir tiintarr unwilling : If it Is not, you can never expefl to 
a'.-t with V'gour in Time of War, nor to bent quiet in Time 
of Peace Yoa ought not therefore to be jnlous ofgivir.g 
fuch Powers to your Government: You oirght only to be 
wntchfui lell any ol thole Power- Ihould be made a bud LTe 
of ; and whill) our Judges be'ow do their Duty, no Power 
granted by Par iamtrnt can be made a bad or an oppreffive 
U*t; of with Impunity. When there is a legal Remrdy, tbi 
Ji.jurrd wi ] cerainiy take Adv-inti.ge of it; and if ihere 
fbould be no l< gal Ren)e>iy, if tbe Criminal fliould be too high 
or too cunning for our JuHges to re>ch biin» the Parliamcat 
mny come in Aid, 'ind will always be able to give the injured 
Subj.A a ("ufb ient Redreli. agaialt the bighelt or moft cun- 
Ding Oppreflbr. 

* For thi^ Rcafon. Sir, I cannot think there ib any Xhn> 
gff that the Conltables, who »n to execute the Powers pro- 
p' led to be eltaiililtxd by this Claufc, will ever make a bad 
U'c cfttiem or fearch any Hoijfe without fome reafonable 
$.ilpicion of Seumcn being kept concealed in it; batific 
fliould be thought, that an unlimited Power in this rcfpcA ii 
too great to be )nHE>ed either in the juAicei of the Peace, or 
in their Under-OIHcers t.c Conl1ab'e<, you may rcflrain their 
Power by an Amendment to the Claufr : You may amend ft 
fit as that neither the JuHices nor the Conllables can (earch 
any Houle without an Affidavit, that fomeabfcondingScunett 
arc fuppufeJ to be conceikd in the Houfe. Thit, I think. 
wi!l obviate nil thi Objefltons tliat have been made to the 
Clauie, as it now ll :nds ; and the eliablilhing of lucb s Law 
may very probably piu an End, in a fljort Time, both to Pref- 
fing ^nd Searching ; for, if it were once made impoflible tor 
Seamen to nvoid beii'g prefled by ablconding, and fuch a Re- 
ward was o&red as is by this Bill propoled,to all fuch at 
fhou d enter thenifdves vuluntariiy into his Majelly^s Service, 
everySeamani-tthcKing^mwould,uponthcfirIt Proclamation, 
voluntarily offer bimlclt, in order to be tautlcd to the Re- 

ward, 



f 40? ) 

wnd, if he were «ccrptcd of, or [oa Prarr^ion \f he were 

■ft By ehtt Mtaoj our Govctnment would >ilw.>y» have 

tvntj arid Lhoice nrScimen 21 i(» Command, which wou'd 

puao End (0 Pitfling aj wr|l as &carchiiigt and the Com- 

aiAoner» of our A^imiralty would then hive it in thf ir 

F«WfT to givr cvtty Seanxn Hi* Turn of Service in the \ • 

Tf-, They nould then have no Occdfion ui (arcr *ny \\»n 

euCofhtt I'urfa, Dor lodcfire him to continue longer jn tiiC 

P^avjr ibao hi* farni and tonlcquenily they could acre r be 

wulcr a NecelHty to \ittU Seamen mi of a Merchant Ship 

fcoatcward-bouiid from a long Voygc, ror toturn a Crew 

o»er from one Man of War to mo'her. 

* 1 am therefore, $it, fujiprized 10 hear it f«id. thai tbi'a 
Law would brinj^ our Seatnen iiao any Son of Suvcty, or 
a^AcT the teall Inconirenienre; for, l^fCJ OpimoAi it would 
luvc a qurc contrary Effvd : It would leheyj: thcnt from all 
lJ-« HArdfhips rhey now l.b'.ur under, by m'kmf it unne- 

^<«ff»ry for our Goremmen. lo force any ol ihcm mio hi> 
Ity'i Service, or to keep them tneie. cut of their lurnj 
if wc (Kould, even in rime of Pe-xe, ketp in ^onilrual 
hut halt IS many Seamen a\ we can probady hare uTis 
for to TiiTif cf War, which, row wc hive fren the Inconve- 
nience of I o: doicg (o, Will, I hupe, be refolvco on, when 
Peace ii rcrtored, ne could then carry on any lueuic W.ir, 
Without dnvting iucb a Number o S>'3mei< from n c Mer- 
cktm'! Service as might any way crobarraf^ ou Trade; for I 
fluH grifit.lhai a certain Nuirbcr o' Landmen, in I'ropor- 
ciaa 'o the Number of Seamen, maybe iikea on l>uanl cveiy 
Ship of War; bgl I 3m hr Irom thinking that the Pr. por* 
Cion of landmen fhould be fo gfeac at two Thirdi. A tew 
Landmen may, 'nt true, aiTtti in fighting iheShip; but fiurn 
ail I could ever earn, and I have been cur-i>us in th t Pur- 
ncuUr, an cxptit Scatoan i' bcicr even for figt.ti gth<.- Milp 
tbjn the bell-trained landmen you can put 00 boa rU i and it 
ia to thrg'eat Numbrr oi Seamen we uiuai y have on b«ui<d 
otir Stii{>« ol War. tbat our Sb pi re lupcrior to )>ny forcigti 
Shipt of the fame Rate Our Ncigtihour> gencr^illy put 
0iore Men on board our Ships th^n we do. but a& moit of 
ihtir Mrn are Landinen, -'nd molt ol ours arc Seimen, i*c 
wtitki'ur Shtpi and nur^igeoui Gum mere dcxteiouHt than 
Ihcy do, which alwiy. g vei \u ibe A vintage mm Ki g<>|>e. 
menti ard iho' rbcir L-<RJmon -ire often trained Soldier t, 
ytt a u generally fouo-J, we d'j more Exccuiioti even wntv 
their (man Armi thin Ihev cm. 

• I iherrf reJiope.Sir, wc IhaU alwayi hereafter put our- 
fe'vci MA UiOr <\''Mj dinaty Expercc <« TimeofPaace, ra- 
ther thaa £ivc U|> UA% Suoc 1 'rl'y wbiCb haa ofltfl bccit of 

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great Benefit to us, and from uu.ch we have reaped fo axK 
Glory; an>1 as wc had not dvnf fr> tjuring the laft PeKe» 
and were therefore in great Want of Seamen ^t the Beginning 
ofthc War. I mnU th.j k, it «■ ^ bi::ter lo dtllrefs our I n£ 
& liitie, rather than ixp- le our Sr.ipi to be taken, and oar 
nava! Reputation to be loll, by putting too many Landmen 
on board any at our Ship- of War, efpecially thofe Tent to ths 
Wefl-Indies. The C-imate in th?t Country is known to be 
fo obnoxious to our LandmeD, and our Ships are fo far diltanC 
from any frclh Supply, tr.at we cou'd not venture to putiBf 
Number o^' Landmen on board ; and it u to this cbie^ 
that we oug.'it to impute the prcfent greiit Scarcity of Su- 
mer- , for m this Part of the Wcrld we have now above 
20,000 Seamen in his M^jelly't Service, bcfiJes the great 
Numbers that are gone thither to fervi- nn bo-trd Privateers. 
We coiled not fit 'hebeginiing put any Proportion of Land- 
m-n on tioa'd tni Ships defi^red for tliM SkTvice, and much 
le<- can we do it now : and with rt^ga rd to the Ships 11 home 
w.i.ch :'re now in CommifTiDn, 1 be'icve, wr mait conteic 
oU'Ieives with h.nvirg one Third expert "^cmen on bcnrd 
e^ch of thf-m.and muiL therefore jtrop^rtion our Seamen t> 
mong th, m as well as wccan. 

• This, Sir. is a Neccflity we are drove to, which, 1 malt 
fy, ! uin <brrv for. becaufe 1 think it a d ing^rous Ncceffi'y 1 
fur how (oon ut may be ob'iged to fend a gre t Number of 
thelc Shipi> to Sea no one can tell. I do not pretend to be 
let into any Si.cr(?ts of State, orr-ny of the fecret Intelligence 
We ^:>ve from abroad ; but 1 may mke Notice of what 1 have 
U ^e'y fecn in a News P;ipcr, wiiich fdid, that twelv- French 
M en of War from Brclt were to join llie Spanifh Squadron 
tiuw 6:rirtg out at Cadiz. If tuis Ik true, we muii imme- 
dta:i;'y fend out a very powerful Squ dron, to ublerve the 
Motions nf theft' united Squadion:., atid if our Squidroni 
fliou'd ihirik it nectflUry to engige, I am afraid, our Ship*, 
with two 'I birds Landmen that had never been at Sea before. 
Would not make fuch a Figure in an Engigemcnt, as they 
have formerly been uled to do: If our Squadron fhould be de- 
feased, and feveral of our Ships lull, iholi: who are now com- 
plaining of our not having taken Landmen on board, weald 
then, perhaps, change their Note, and complain as hea\ily 
of our ha ving tarnifhcd our Glory, loli our Ships, and cz- 
poled the Nation to be inv.ided. by taking too many Land- 
men on bo ard, and that we had done better to put a Stop to 
our Trad for a Month or two, than to have expofeU our- 
fcl ves to fuch Difgr3ce,fuch Lofs, and fuch Danger. 

* The Gen tlemen who have the Honour of bcii.g at the 
Jlead of our Admiralty arc, therefore, in the right. Sir, to 

try 



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Eyrfdintf tathtf than expoft OicmtelTct to foch 

.• propofed thcjf cannot try 

mrD. : 11 ttuii Auchiinry bc 

1 .ivcailL0i a. titcx wiUioio^t bcjmtifinl^ 

ri betthittbcy Will. Whether this Ek- 

>- ' Man cnn tell, beauie it ji im. 

i._ I'Jcrs ol'SeaiDeu arc now lurking 

ifid down (J)c (.ootxry. or what Nnnbers of able -bod ted 

& •in«n arc now cmploycj in oar Couuag Trade. 

tbc iormcr. wc have Kcatoo to brlirvc, tli«t there are 

If V -•-< rrsrifiLcni, tvcauie no Merchant Ship never tt 

men, i/ ihc cui but get a Prou^'on. Tt>of0 

L_[itap« know wbcic the Scuncn xaif bc feni|«^ 

rhta the Mailer of a I'rading V'cQel mnuluc^ a Nan. 

It (bey 'le ready bc i LaJl r fut their Cfimpi take 

Ctzt BOi lo let the GDvcrnmeot or any Pt<(% Ging know 

vbcjE iliey ^rc tobc met witn, 

• Then, Sif.aitotbc Number of able bodied, expertSci. 
i nc« now enp'Oycd in the Co; Ripg Pradt, ibo' I believe ft 
L. ,jbJk muih greater tiuo the Horioufiible Gcntkraaa ieprc> 
■t^^^ yrt, 1 >m cor.vincccl, it n coi near fo great ai afcat ia 
^^^^K of Peace, not l>ccauic liieic are not mxny fuch Se4mea 
^^^^B^ ' m, tnii bccjiufc oioli oflbole (ba! are fil 

^H^Bi . . ' V ice. and ct>r>(equenily Irabte to bc pnSled, 

int» rc^oMT Ur 6<.- employed at Se*. ftnd b>vc retired up imo 
ckcConmry, where iixy live byl'ome EniploynKnt at La/ul, 
0( apon the Credit ihey b::ve from their Crimpi or their old 
,9At$cn, who know they nn rcimburfe thetmteives with good 
lateral oat ol the 6tli Wagci the Scttua rcccivn, wbma 
LApportanity olfcri, lar bit beinf^ rmptoycd at the pre- 
W»gci io tbc Coafttitg J trade or Mcrchaat's iier>> 

• for ttiefc Rczilbat, Sir. I betteve the Eipedient sow 

-"-'"-' would have a very great Eflcfl, lowardj relieving 

our ptclcnl Diilrelsj and at I canooi think the 

^i.uiiic, with 'tie Ameadaicnt I hivc propofcd, could hire 

liy bad L'ontci)ucncc, 1 iKiU Uierciote be lur its being paU 

[led uuo • Lkw.* 




Si k. 

Wbeo I look round me, I tin furpn'iRl [0 Sod tbu Ktl 
With fo inucll Oppoiition. 1 bclitvo ite are all irue< 
lam EhgMhnicn. I fbou'd have faid true Briiuni, in thn 
Houfei iii'i ihcicfcrc I bi-pe the B;llat lali Mtll Q.tct witb « 
BONia) AppiubdUoni lor K there was a Kfenctiman or a 
SiM Jaid aiagngit m, 1 sua pcrfiuiied, he wouid bc againU 

thfl 




( 4o6 ) * 

cbrBill. efpeci'lly the Clauic now andrr 0vr CoxfidentiM, '.'. 
He would frighten us with S.'avery, unt I do nt^ kiiow»hit. ['\ 
in order to prevent our pgrecing to fuch a pcc^ (I ry lod ale. ,', 
fti' Regulation. Thii, I nm perluaded. wou'd bethe Oie, "' 
liad we any fuch Men am' nglt us; and thtof irieif i^ wKh 
me a fufficieot Rcafon for agreeiog to what ii ptopoled.' 

F. 
Sit, 
P ' I little fufpe^led thit theOppofers of this OaoieflioaU 

be accufcd of being (•renchnitD or Spaniards. It is beciafe 
lira neither a Fienci)in-*a or Spaniard, nor a pioNffedor 
iecret Friend to cither, that 1 am >ig'<:ntt ibis d^uir. I an 
a true-born Engliffaman, and as fnci- I bare » fincere Reg^id 
for the Liberties <ind Propertits of my Countrymeo i t>etc- 
fbre I mull be againii a Ctaufe which wiH reader ooih pre- 
carious. I hope, 1 fhill always be agaiDil fuch Eipcdientf, 
cveu tfao' I Ihould iherrby f crifice fome private ImercH or 
View of my own. If we h^d a Frenchman or' Spaatard a- 
Diongfl us, that underltood any thingof Trade no Naviga-. 
tion, I am convinced, he would be a hearty Advoeair for 
this Regulation : At 'ealt I Ihouid have a very b^d Opiatoo, 
cither of his Judgment and Forcfight. or his Attacbmeni to 
hit native Country, if he were not. If a Spaniard of (ood 
Uoderftanding were amongit us, he wou'd certainly be for 
the Claufe, becaafe it would force many of our Seamen tnTo 
the ServiceotSpaio, IfvJardjnai Firury were a Meabcrof 
this Houfe, I am fure he would be for it ; becaufe he would 
forefee, that, in a Oiort Timr, it wou^dgrefaib Country a Sa- 
periority over us at Sea, by forcing moll of the Seamen we 
now have into torcign Service, and preventing any EegliQi- 
man's breeding himfe f to the Sea for the future. But, I nope, 
the Cardinal has no Influence overany Member, fiir lefs over 
a Majority of the Houfe, and therefore. I hope to fee the 
Claufe rejeded with Difdaio. 

* If we are under any Diftrefi, Sir, for want of Seamen, 
we have brought it upon ourfelves. by not encoarAging 
Landmen to enter into his Majeily^ Sea Service at the begin- 
ning of the War, by rcfufing many that were offered, and by 
raiiing Marching.Rcgimeots, under the fpecious Name of 
Marines, before we had half manned our Navy. At the be* 
ginning of the War we could not {q much as apprehend, that 
either the Spaniards or the French woU'd in a Twelve-month's 
Time be in a Condition to fac^ our Squiidrons any wfaere at 
Sea; we might therefore have taken as many Landmen as 
we pleafed on bonrd our Navy, at the Beginning of the War, 
becaufe in a TwelvemonLVs 1 imc many of them would have 

become 



( 40? > 

BBiP rxprrt SMmrn, ina ■]! wou'd havebenvme fit fat 

Mrr f Service i>i. board oiu Men of Wur. It ii a 

tkc CO luppolc, '.lilt tbc Scj-Cliraace in the Welt-Ii<diea 

:t\ obnox'uu* '0 uur [jndmtn. it ihey are luptin Aflioa 

Ejccrctfc ; Bur Aocn our jh'pi arc kept loiCeiing in one 

I, wiib InlirucUoai uot loaMcmpiaTy ihiogagairvit the 

i« ii.ey wert ft> the H'll-merio'- t in ihui Cafe. 1 

r«oi ili« Wrtt-lndiu) C imate won'd br obfKXiom, my 

■ate wuuld be oi' oxiout. tu McD kcpi confined on tw^rJ 
L(tp in <ucn « > id e, fpirii<erft ana rexat !»•■ S u lion i ind 
Fould br obnuxtous to xur Seamen as «rcU if Landmen, 
'wr found bj bi4 ExpcttCdCt in tbc Plci I have nta- 
^lloocd. Bui ai ihc btgmning of ihu V^ar, 1 hope no Squa- 
)t,ji^. M'C>c intcr<Jtd to nt ict.t to the V^eii-lndtei with 'Uch 
m i thcTcfiire, il t gui Nanbcr of young, ngo- 
1, ^Jiiicn tuti been tent out. I believe (bry would have 
ipt rhcii Hcaitht as well ■■ our Scimcn hive done, and 
^iift of ttiem wou'd h«\c been Milter of their BQfincf>, be* 
Ircibrjr cuutd h^ve tut. Wilb an/ ibiog iik« Oppafition at 

• Fofthh Reafon, Sir, ifwearenow ia inji Diflrersfor 
ot SMm<.n. I mull impute it wholly 10 ih'- Wroag 

:farrj mt took :it the b'gianiiig of ibe Wart but fuppofe 
Cube port-/ owirg oour not having kept » greater Num- 
bcTot Seamen in Pa> duiag Pcice. ^boare thcji that are to 
blaaic for ihift want of turrfighi ^ 1 am (uipr zed to hear 
liicJl a Comprint mentioned by the Advoc >tes (or this Mo- 
twa : H*ve not ttary or rheir Fricpdi bad themodenir.g of 
-CMpvblic F.xpencr fura'molt ihcie twenty Vears ? Did iJiey 
^^I^K pCOpOle a NumlKf ot Sr^nen (or any ore Vc;tr, that 
^^^^BMt ogtccil to by PariiimcM f Hnve not tbey been oflcQ 
beamed or rnluc'Dg tlie Niimber or Seamen, m order tti 
kecpep an urncccff'ry. dangerou*. afKl opprcffive Number 
of Land Fotcis i The Train i:, ihcy bave all along Teemed 
ro be ractc ^if-iiid ot (be People, thnn of the Peop'c*> foreign 
£acinio ; »tni thercloredtcy negieflcd ^tad reduced that Bud/ 

kef Xlen.wbtch ii molt p'oper for deliend ng uiag^inll foreign 
^nemrt, in order to keep up and incrcarc that Boiy ofMeRf 
vh<b *it taoti prupct lot defending them agiiult the Pco- 
pta. 

* Thiit, Sir, let ui confider our prefeat Dillreri io what 
Light we Will, we nioQ (er, that it Wat iniJrrly owing tetht 
bm Conduflof ibofe.wbo in the Advouicftfor ihi<Clfture; 
■Ml lAc wrong Ule they have maoe of the Power* they were 
poflcflcd gf, <i. 1 ibinlc, no very good Argument for cntrufl- 
Mig tbcm with mure. However, Sir, «» I am for pu(h>ng 
tktt Wu wttb tiiC uimoft Vigour, I Ibould be for the Claulc 

propofcd, 



C 408 ) 

propufed, if T tliought it conld any way contribute toirardi 
relieving us from the Diftrefj we are faid to be in ; b« ai I 
think it would plunge us into ftrther and greater Difi- 
cultiea, by driving into foreign Service many of our Seanwa 
we now have amongfl us, and as I think it wou!d be ofthe 
moft dangerous ConOjuence, both to the Liberty and Property 
of every Man in the Kingdom, I moft thcreibre be agunt 
it.' 

Mr. Pulteney. 
Sir, 

Mr. Pultmeyi < I did not think to have rofeup fo foon in this Debate; 
but I find you are like to perplex yonrfelvei with amending 
ft Claufe that cannot be amended, and therefore I I'and tip 
10 prevent, if I can, your giving yourfeiTei thii oDRCcefliry 
Trouble. Sir, amend it what way you wiU» it wiil be a 
Claufe, which no Englifiunan c>n agree to. I Aould aoc 
look upon a Man as an EngliOiman, that would agree (o fub- 
jeahimfelf to fuch a flavifh Power ; to have kis Hoafe rx. 
pofed to a petty Conftable and a Prefs Gang stall Hour* of 
the Night, is what no Gentleman that puti any Vala*- ei:her 
upon his Liberty or his Property will fubmit to. I have the 
Honour, Sir, to reprefent the County of Middlefex. where 
there are many rich Freeholders ; there are Jufticci of Reace 
too ; thefe have done me many ill Officer, and have atnmpc- 
ed to do me many more ; for we know whofe Tooli moft of 
them are. But I depend upon the Freeholder*, and whi e 2 
preferve their £lleem. I lh<-ill defpife the Jullicei. 

< Do Gentlemen thiak, Sir, that I wi,i expofe my owa 
Houfe, or the Houfe of any Freeho'der in England, to be 
broke open at the Pleafure of an infignificant Two-pniny 
Jullicc of Pe;ce, prompted by his own Malice or Refent- 
ment, or direfled by the revengeful Temper of a Mioifier .* A 
Gentleman may have 500/. or lOooA in Bank Notes in his 
Houfe ; thefe. Sir, have no Ear-Mark : The Gentleman 
may not, pcrhsps, have uken the Number : if thefe Qioutd 
be taken away, how could he recover them I He could 
not, perhaps, prove that he had any fuch in his Houfe ; if be 
could, whom could he fue } Would it be poffible to &x the 
taking of them upon any one Man of the Party > But if this 
coutd be done, would not a low Fellow of a Conftab e, or per- 
haps one of the Prefs-Gang. make hit Efcape, as foon as he 
had got PofTrflion of fucb a Sum of Money ? Thos, it wou d 
be impoiTink for the Owner to recover his Property, or to 
punifh ttie Man that had robbed htm. An Affidavitcould be 
no Security sgainlt this Danger ; they that will ileal, «i^ 
fwcar: SuppoHng the Jullicc to be no Party in the rhievifh 

k Coafpiracy, 



(409) 

/, Wlich I am hr fiom reckcning impoPiliTe^'w 
■Canfhkble, any c<-mmon Fcllrw who knew I iii.ti fneh 
of Xtoiury in my Hoilte, might go brfore » Juitice nnd 
ill >c I bad Stamen conccaleii m my Yloufe : Ths 
wufl.bj' (hii Claufe, gnin(bi<i Warmnt t he i» nqui- 
toijo: The CoQltittiic mult makethtScarchi and the 
A£(iivit-Mtn comci along with him, u one of the I'nU' 
' --- ; — r -f-i wheo 1 anii niofl ol' my Sctvanit arc pone 
• i.bour, and vthilll the other ±»crvarti arc at- 
ircoir^-o orin ihe Ooors o( every Creek and Corner to ihe 
Coodablr. the A&iBvit-Maa may very probably find an Op 
|»nttnit> r» btuk open my Scruiiorei and uke sway mf 




'' rp, Sir. our Pfoperifes vvtre Tafe, or cwild b« 

.nit (uch a Cbuic ni chit, would any Gcntlg. 
Ui;u!/ luhmit 10 hare h;s Houlelearcbcd, and himrdf 
^■d bi» family diHurbM, every Night for |wo or ihrec 
Mootbi ittgccber r N'ct thiimighi bcthc Cjfc, ifaMlriillcr, 
Om T ool of aMirillei, (h<ju'j conceive j Pique againll 
)f»oting ihtm at any Elrfiiun. We know huw cafy 
h'-.it'c.-* to 6nJ AffiJivit-iMen. and 00 Court in 
g'vethc Gene cdiid ar^y Kedi^eli), beoulc th* 
k rr> Niglii matic accordrng Co the expreh Di- 
li ot an Aii o( Parliament. Even the Parliament ic- 
g:ve him Redreft, if the Partiei conorroid in 
« hood firoi by one .tnother: I fiy. Sir, tna 
itfL'Ifcoutd give nn Redreli. without excrcifinff 
:y PVjwetttluo 1 lluill ever wilh m IccCKCtCilta 
M«ni in Cn){Und ; for nu Ma>i could iay, th* 
. h^iJ liken a &lle Oath, when he fwore ha 
i't (bCpcA, that Srxmen woutd be that Night 
in I'tich a Hciulc ; nor couU liie Pailbtmcut puni/It 
t«t the Conftible, fot dging whitt the L.w rcqui- 
b'-iodo. In (hort. ^ir, thit CUul'e 1* 'u fiti! fr^ii^hc 
»prrf&'in. and (odangeroui to (he LTberiv, the I'lo- 
r.aiid rhct^irt ofrvcry Mul in Ergtand. not concerned 
execuiive i'aitof tiur Guvernmetit, that I muA ihtok 
itrtvcri cfn have a Faccy, that th-y and ibeir Kollc- 
imJm S^ftt/trum art tu be the MiniAcrt and Magi- 
fGlCHl Briuin. 

bonMurdble CJntiltnati, Sir. who ergoed for thia 
fCIarfr, ■»< he had tionc (or many otbcn of th'- lame Nature, 
;iird to f^vouf ut with hii Auvice. to lapabde 
L. Ind Fran, and entrull our hitaiAcri with aU 
f<i«er>, at thty Ihall ctll necvlhry for coablmg ai 10 
Vigour in out ^iiiunal Capacity. 1~bi». 5.r. i% di- 
ttOiy tke Fable of tbs I'ok and the GecCe i but 1 iiopc we 




<i eg 



IbaU 



(410) 

AftU not beAich Gct(e, z% to take hii Advice. Let oarMini- 
llers aim at no extraordinary and daageroas Powers, and. Ill 
anfwer fur it, the People will entertun no Jealoufies ; but 
when A MioiAcr ha>, during the whole Coartc of a long Ad- 
niioitlratioQ, b«eii aiming at fucli Powers, and has obuioed 
more than eFcr any Mini&er did, it is no Wonder tofeejei- 
loufiei and Fears arifing among the People : It is rather to 
be wondet'd at, that thofe Jealoufiesare not more violeBcand 
more general than they are. We have of tate Years had 
many dangerous penal Laws enaAed ; Laws which Ceen 
calculated rather for opprefling the Innoceot, than paniihiBg 
the Guilty. The lace Smuggling-AA is a moft terri^ Law 
of this Nature. I travel often into a County well koownn 
an honourable Gentleman near me; when I aim there, I often 
walk about with a Gun upon mj Shoulder, and with two 
or three Servants or CompanioDs armed ia the iiinie Man- 
ner: Upon fuch Occalioni, I confefs, I am in fome Pain, 
leU I lliould be taken up for a Smuggler ; I know I might 
be taken up as fuch, by Authority ol the Law. becaufe I 
happen to be travelling with Arms, and witfaio five Xlilcs of 
the Sea Coaft, or of fome navigable River : Nay, I know I 
might be condemned and tranfported as fuch, in Cafe one of 
my Servant) Should happen, without my Knowledge, to have 
a Parcel of Tea or l^ce in hit Pocket, which a Friod of hit 
had dclired him to carry to a Neighbour in the CooBtrf. 

• It is true, Sir, no bad Ufe has as yet been made of that 
Law ; but when we are confidering whether or do a Goveni- 
mcnt be arbitrary, we are not to enquire what they do, boC 
what they may do ; fbr whatever they may do, they will doa 
when ihey have neceJTary Occalion for it. The King of 
France had an Army,and confcquently a Power to compel 
his Parliament to regifter his Edids, long before he attempt- 
ed it. The Parliament of Paris had formerly a Negative ia 
the Pafliog of Laws, as well as we in this Houfe have t ibe/^ 
flill pretend to the Right, but now they dare not ezerctie it ; 
and by Means of our Armies and our penal Laws, thisHlMfe 
may foen be brought into the fame Circumftances : The 
Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Attorney Geneial, or the 
Secretary at- War, may bring us a Bill, ready cut and dry'd, 
from his Majefty, and tell us, the Kingcommandf us top>& 
it. This Hoofe, as it is compofed at prefent. would, I know, 
difdain to obey any fucbCommandi but by oppreffiag onr 
£!c£lions, by means of penal Laws, a Minifler may gafuck 
a Houfe chofen, as would refufe nothing the Crowo coald 
deftre, and in that Cafe, I'm a&aid, the Nation would find 
but little Relief in the other Houfe. Sir, to aft with Vigour 
ia our national Capacity, we have do Occafion to cntrufi our 

Miniflrn 




MiniAm wtT>i iry tttniordiiiary Powen. rr wirh a l^ulti- 
ndc i>f penal Lam. The Nnion has oticr. idcd with Vi- 
gour bcfor« tkefe Pnwvri were grxnttd ; !t tui never A^rd 
with Vigour t'inc* ibt/ were graiiirtl ; nor un it, I believe, 
wctaA «i[h Vigour till nwny cf them nrc repfalcd. New 
■•d ninordifliry Powers, lod * Muliipl'CR}' of pecal Lawi, 
render the People je^louf, uneafy,anddir<o(iieti(cd wi'.h their 
Go»T;tiineKt i and whillt the People are fo, howrver vtgo< 
rou/Iy our Minifters majr n&. in opprclGng riie People u 
feomr, and preventing ihcir being able to do iheiflfclvcs Ju(- 
Eke, i: wttl not be in their Power to aft with Vigour ubrotd, 
t«f ■gainfl a foreign Enemy: Therrforc. the etittufitrg of 
I'Cnr Miniflcn wHb ocw and exCTaordinjry Powen, inltoa of 
ubiing ui, will reader it impo0ible fi>r ttt lo ad witli Vi- 
lar ID our nitional C'apsciiy. 

An honounblc Gcnileitian prophefied to Hi, Sir, thtc 
fnffing thitCtaufe into a Law would prevent our Govern- 
ttirnt'l being undcrany Nccriliiy, cither fo ptcU, or to I'rarcti 
lor Sranrn i becmiTe, if our Seomrn Ibould fee, that ihey 
coold Ti^t, by ablconding, avoid being prefTed into Lis Ms' 
>'! Service, they wonid all come ard enter voluntary. 
, U u not the liril yitac thai honourable Gentleman and 
Frtmdt have appeared to be mti.iben in their Piopbc- 
) t if ibey bad not, we Riocld h.ive been engaged in no fuch 
ftt the prcfeoi; and, t believe, they never found them- 
I more out in a Prnphecy, than they will £nd ibetnfelvcf 
iJiij. Our psiTlng fhii Clmfe into a Law, I Ihatl grant, 
ly put an end both to preflingand (earthing for Seamen i 
bcnafic our Government will be ut>dcr no Neceffity fof' 
■g To, bat l)rrjiife it will be in vain lor ihein (O do fo i for 
m convif'Ccd. ttwoold'in a (hort Timr hunt every Seainan 
kavc oiit of the Kingdom i and if we had no .Seamen left, 
mo>dl% needlciVfof otir (Jovernment to (catch fortliem. 
fcr would be impo^lcto preO. when there is no Man to 
' prefftd. 

• Our Seamen, Sir, arc alreadv expoled to greater [Iar4. 
than car Lindmen arc : The latter are never prelM 
the ^rmy, hut cajoleJ nnd bribed into the Service; the 
are prrfftd'inio the Naify on every inflingOccafion. 
lore, I may fay fo from our Condufi of Jate ; for 
|;b we have of late bad many a hot Prefs for Seamen, 
ire never been feat iipoo any Expedition, where they 
lio Glory or RichcN, riihrr to ihcmrclvei or their 
. If 10 tbeir former Hartlihipi wc add this now 
Dfed,thGy niU all Inveut: for a Britiffa Siilor will al- 
ba a welcoms Gucll to any Pother in P.urope. '* '* 
Sir, 10 amend this Ctaufc fo, at to 



It -11 



G gi 



tbcrcforcj 



( 4J« ) 
therefore, do not let as be wire-drawn by Amendmenti iDto 
thePaflingofa Claufe which, amend it Syou will, mu&dt- 
firoy the very End for whicji it is fiid to be intended : It is 
direAly the Cucumber : pare it, Hice it, fquecze ir, put what 
Ingredients you will to it, yet Rill it will be fit for Qoihing 
but being thrown out af Window.' 

G. 

Si R, 

* A« lam derceoded of a Family that has never been dc' 
£cient in their Duty to their Country, and has, upon former 
Qccafions, taken Arms in Defence of its Libeaies and Privi- 
leges, I (houid be forry if I degenerated fo much from i be 
Virtue of my Anceftors, ai to approve of any Regutaiioalhil 
might be of dangerous Conrcquence to the Libcrtiet of'my 
Country ; but I am fo far from looking upon the Reguluion 
now propofed in this Light, that, I think, not only cur Li- 
berties but our Independency as a free Narion will be in the 
Utmoll Danger, if It is not agreed to; for if our Goveromnt 
is nof enabled todefend us againft foreign Attacks, we fltatl 
certainly be conquered by the firll Nation thai is bold enougb 
to invade u3. 

• I have examined the CItufe, and attended to the Debate, 
I hope, impuitially, aijd I muft confufs, I can (ee none of thole 
d'.ngfrous Confequences that have been fuggclled by ihole 
who h:ive fpoke againft the Claufe : Our Apprrherfioos 
ought all, I think, to bf! upon the other Side of the Quef- 
tion; for if wc do not expofe our Houfes to the Danger 
of being fearched for abfcording Seamen by our own Magi- 
thates and OlHcer;, they viil be expofed to the Danger of 
being plundered by invading Spaniards or Frenchmen. We 
may prefcribe Liniits to the lormer : We may puniOi them if 
they exceed chofe Limits; but the latter we can neither li- 
mit nor puniih ; and furely the Danger of being plundered 
is of much greater Confcqucnce than the Danger of being 
Icarched. 

< i \vi(h Gentlemen would judge more candid'y of one in- 
uther's Behaviour: lam afraid, Sir, there are Ibne-amongtl 
us whu Judge from Envy and Heiemment. Such Paffions 
will alwHys create Jealousies and Fcai^, and fuggelt Appre- 
htnfioiis tor which there is not the Icall Foundation. We 
ought to behave like Chritlians towards ore another i if we 
did. wc (ho J Id never judge rathly of the Thoughts or AAioot 
of other ,VJen ; but would behave with Itlecknefs. Humility, 
and Fi-rbcarancp, which are foneceffary for the Prefervatioo 
C'f-S'cictv, and Jor kecplcg up a friendly Intercourte among 
Men. Ai 1 Ciall aiwiiv;i t!:.t:cavot,r :-j iuj!cw ihi£ Precept, 1 

cannot 



( 413 ) 

aaeol fftfpcA thofe whopropoied tbii Cliufe of any bid fn- 

MWU}a. Bod it i{ (hculi) hticatur give Rife lo an^ lort of Op- 

. picfion, it miy e»b\y be uncn^rd or rppcalrd ; therrfoie to 

ic»e u.- from the prelent Ncctlfity. and to prerent thr like 

i inic lu come, Koughi, I ihmk, to be jppiovcd of,* 

H. 

S I R. 

' It U (omctbing furprifiog, that thii Nation (hould have 

ieciftird lice ind iDdcpviikicnt for Co many Ages, ^nd ytt 

ihsru <i now le m fucli D:ingcr of being conijucrrtl by France 

ta SiMin* thi( we iiiut) enable our Minillcrt to conquer ui, in 

lo prevent ouf beiog conquered by Foreigner!. Is not 

$tr,«irr mariarii, m»ri> \i may prcferve, It may erea 

the Indrpcndcncy of our \IiniUeri. bctaufe it will 

tfccm indciHrndcnt of rtic People, which (hey ought 

rtobe; but it will dcUroy tlie Libertici of the Peoplej 

a« we fit here chicAy to prclerve rbe Librmes of the 

Peaf-.Waitirnlt the EDcroachmenis and UiitrpattMii of Mini* 

drrs, bu«r could weanfwcr it to our ConltitucDts f To mine 

tl n>tt'<i my nothing, but only t^utt I bad made iiiyfcif u great 
a 5l«vr aa I had nide ihcm : To tlirm, «nd 1 believe to 
noil oiheri in England, it would be no b'^cufe to fay, that 
if w« luut flcii done lo, u-c dwutd all have been conqunett by 
Fiwce or'Spainj for wbaiever our Minillcrs and tfteir 
Fricndi nay jxeicnd, 1 am fo/c. the People o/GieatBri- 
aim urn uadcr no Apprehcndona of (heir being cuoqucrod 
by cither ol (iM'ie two Power &. 
• Every one kho\*s Sir, that the Freedom of our Coo- 
lUtaUQn confidi pnitLipany in tbc Freedom of our Elc JlioQ» -. 
i ftMJ ibc Kieedoni ol OUT Lle£liani contiUs in its not being in 
the Powrrof a Miniller, or any great Mdn. lo hart an Eiec- 
I -. OD Account of his irottng contrary to hii Otdcn Bt any 
i «^bon. Would thi* be the Cale, if ihit CbuTc fhould b« 
paficd ioio a Law ? Might not a ktiniller, or his Tooli tbc 
(rticct of Pcicr. hjrralsa flubborn ElcUor out of hii Li.'c. 
brat leali out of im B-ifinefi, by lenJingn ConRab^c and a 
Prafi-Cirp every Ntght, or every other Nighr, (o Icarch 
hi-' abfcooding Seamen f The Intcfpofition of-sit 

Alii , uld no way mend the Matter! fur when there 

lino Hanger of incurring ihc Pcnalfici of Pcrjory, ai there 
CMid be (>one in ihii Cafe, an Aflfldavlt is ealily obtairt'd, 
cfp«DiIly H'hen the ACdivn-Man is lurc of being prote^leil, 
ii well ai rewirdcd by • Minifler of Sute. We know 
wliat Vie hai be^R made of the Power of quarleriflg Sol- 
(ben upon Publtc-houfoi wc know tbat Innkeepen, and 
tna figrougJift, have fomctitDC* bcco oudc to fu^r by that 

Meant, 



H.1 



Meut. for their baring difoblig^ mioMaiiil (Mm 
IcAioBs: This, I am coavincod, hu becaJoui ilWf^ 

be dont, wiliiout any Puflibility of in bein g 
caufe the AO. u kgil, the Crime coa5(li Uog\y m I 
lion, which People may rnfpcfl, but unaol pron. 
fcRrchtrg would be aitcDdol wtlh the raoie Ooe* 
Miniitcra andtbrirTooli, andihe E,ffcfl viould bti 
tta&vci btrciufe quartering or Soldien iscodia(dlft| 
lic-hoolct ; but thi» i>f liauchiRgftjr Seaneai* Utel 
cd [O &n Sortt i>f Hoafei, even to (bt KOuTn »f tlK 
blcmen in the Kingdom. 

■ For my P«rt. Sir, Qiould wre igrMiatbii 
have Ao Nation that tbc othtr Houfe will : W« 
pkafc, lay our own HoUfri open, aiall Havsof I 
to petty Conilablei and Prcfs Gingi ; bac I 
Lotdi will Uy tbeir Houlin open at fucb Tiinn. 
Vifitationt. Tbey will leriainly exctpt tk« Hi 
Pccn and Pcerclki : and ifth<! BiU fbogUberc 
«-)tb fucb ta Exception, would you p<i(i it HitB k 
theiefoie or Opinion, tbul if ihii Oaute fisndiHl 
wilt ocntion the Lofs of the Whole i and at I 
fitll Claur?, which enables ibr Gorcntmcnttajtivj 
of ; /. to every Seaman that Hull volunraril) 
Majilty't Service, I malt ihcrefure beagainllAl 
1 think, wiU occalion the Lot* of the whole BitL 

' Bat foppofe, Sir, 1 were afTured, tbtt tic 
would be at complairaoitODur MiniBerTtMCoaBCial 
to be, (be Claufe it in itfelf ol a Niiurc (6 dismal 
CimlUtution, that I mnQ besgainfl it: It irvnl' 
cenGvc Power to Jullicei of Pntcs anj tbeir Cm( 
repugnant lo ibc Spirit of our t*w, and iatmi 
nur Cnnttiiutiofl. Ogr Jullicti of the PcKii 
lOo apt to favour the C>u{c of the Crown. lUkffl 
of ibe SuljeA: Nay, many of therm ate boi 
come ihe mere 1'ook of a M nitter, lod to iHk« 
eke Power* thry are invefied with accnrditig V '■ 
lions. And fuppofe it were otberwifc) faflP*^* 
aB inclined to bvcor the Subjf^, and EaeainVl 
nrr of Opprtffioa f tnthisCah "ni ; 

« Miniltcr iftclinci to opprcfi . . ..h liic 

ptoptiUrd tbey cannot prcvtot it lt\cf iMiil plti 
to the Prrfon that comes to ioform ; ?hrr ■nftr 
grant their Warrant for (eirelilnjUkc 
and iJtc Coi.Hab'c mull cxecvte Ihe ' 
were fjUy convinced of the F3Uh<- ' 
ibat it was (worn to with a DcbgD t , 
likttify tbe Malice ond Revenge lU a Mrnittcr, « ftxt 
of ibc fnfottner him/eU. 



(4X5) 

I ftnn ndmlr, Sir. iha: the Govrmmect has a Right to 
dr Service of cvtiv S«amaD, when the Safety of their Conn. 
BY rcijaires thtir ServHK ; itid 1 know it k^f beeji the Prac- 
tice (o pf*[iS"m<n upon fuch Occaijon* : VVhether the Pnte- 
tec be cAablilhed bv Law, I flull not uke upon me ro de» 
knnifir ; butfo f>r I may fay. that the Method of Frcfling 
Mi^fac never TO be pradifed, except when the Natioo h in the 
motL hnmincnt Danger. On ftich Occzfions itie Kmg bat, I' 
know, a Inn of did;ilorial Power, ;ind tticrefore may prefl 
Mca either for the Land or $n Service ; for I do not chiok 
acre U by Law any real DifTrrencc bcweco ihe two; and 

;"^rc I muft think it boih againil Law and ReatoD to 

-;<r«nienon every trifling Occafion.ajhas been the Prac- 
uzK ol late Years; for from the Year 1718 to the breaking 
oa of the War, I do notthink there was erer any juD Occa- 
ioB for a Ptcl«, and yet wc have had revera) within that Pe- 
fio«l. Upon gteit Occ4fion) irdccJ, and when the public 
Safety ■Wolately rcqgiies It, [he Government haa a Right to 
thrServkc ufcvery Se;vnan in ihc Kingdom, til) his. Ma- 
jetf'* Navy be fully fupplied I Jnd then I wtll allow, that 

aSamui in the Kingdom, who sbfcondi, ii criminal i 
irely we ate aoi to mkc aw:ty the Liberty of rhe Subject 
W|ncral, for the Ltke of bringing ttteoi to their Duty/ 



Si«, 
• Tbo' I cannot prereitd to no more than to refumeor 
•■luge upon feme of rhc Argument) thit have already beta 
f M fe ucd in ihu Dcbjie; >ct. as i( is a Matttr ofl'uch 
CoAlcqurnec, I ttiink it n>y Duty to give you my Scntinienn 
m» ibc Sut^jefl ; attd as the Argt-menei for and agiitjft tbia 
Cbafc nay be tanked under two fieadi, thofe thai relate (o 
thrBmciiiiiliat noy arife ftom tis being paHcd tn:o a Ltw. 
tad thoTc that relace to the Dangenand Inconvcnienciei wo 
nay be cxiKtfcd toby tiur agreeing cr ditagrcong to ihii 
Onte, I fh»ll begin with (he dti}. Sir. if there be uny Sea> 
Bes ixmr lurking anv where In the BrinUi £>ominian?. and I 
dunk it hat of all Sidci been admictcd there arefotr.r, ihii 
Law will leTtuinly be of great Adv.miage lo oor Trade, be- 
caste it will enable ourGovernmrnt ro fimlooiand prefithe 
krldng Scimeo into the Service of the Navy, and conrc> 
mertt'y wi>: leave a greni Notutter of Seamen to be employed 
nthe \ferchanijS<'ivife The Navy, it iicemin, mult be 
fitpplied, c\'cn tha' ftrnie Brattcbn of our Trade Hiould b* 
Ooet ion whtic ; what can be morebfneiicial lo our Trade, 
thaa that of taking lirtt ihofe Seanirn. who now refdl'e to 
enter loto the Govcrcmcai'i or MercUaau Servict f 

I rcmcia- 



( 4i6 ) 

• I remember, Sir. two Ve.irs ago, when War wa» fo much 
fought after, and (o violent!}- ii'fi'.ed on, by almoll all Ranks 
ot People, no M.in prricndcd to have .my Apprcficntioniof 
our Trade"! fuffiri'-g by (he War; Surt^y it wa; not then 
imagined, that our I r.i<if; cauiJ be carried on in Time of War 
with the lame E^K" and becuniv, as in Time of Pcice; for 
our Trade niuft lufter by War, !« the War be coniiuited in 
what Manner it will ; yet ever fince the War hai been de- 
clared, every little Irtonvericnce oit Trade liesexpofeJ ro 
has been let in the (Irorgtft Lislit, and clamoured .igainll in 
the moll vio!i:nc Manner : and now, when a Methui is pro- 
pofed for obvlitir.g mod of the Incunvenicncies our I'r^de 
lies expofcd to, it is oppofed, and represented as a Step lo ar- 
bitrary Power. Is thii candid. Sir ? Is it a fair way of trcii- 
ing thole, who are entrulUd with the Condudl of our public 
AfF:irs ? 

' But 10 return to my Subjefl, Sir. I have Qiewn how 
beneficial this Claufe may be (o our Trade ; and nexr, with re- 
gard to our Seamen, would it not be a great Benefit to our Sea- 
men in general, it all of them were obliged to take ihrir 
Turn in the Navy, and no Man obliged to lerve there longer 
than his Turn ? That this would be the Confequence of the 
Law now propofed is, I think, app arert ; bccaule if the Go- 
vernment hnd Choice of Seamen, ttiey would certainly chufe 
thole able Seamen that hid bee.i longellat home, or longrft 
out of the Gc-A'ernment's Service. Such a Law could be in* 
» converient to none, but fuch a? refufe to take their Turn in 

the Governnienc's Service, and ablcond in order to avoid 
their beirg prcflVd intn that Service; and aithey are allowed 
to be crimi*ial,the forcing them to their Duty caonot furcly 
be reckoned an Jnconveriiencc 'o the Public. 

* Lailly, Sir, with regard to the ProfecutioB of the War, 
It would certainly be a great Advantage to us to have Plenty 
and Choice of Seamen always ;it the Governoieai's Com- 
mand. I cannot liiy that this would be, fo much ai I could 
wifh, the EftHl of our pafling this Cuufe into a Law. be- 
ouft: T do not ill it' k wc haix at prcfent a Slock of teamen in 
the Kingtiom, efficient for aniwcring buth the Merchants 
and the Government's Demand; hut we fliould ccriainif 
have a greater Plenty of Seamen, if alt of them were withm 
the Government's Reach, nnd obliged to enter inoneorotrcr 
of thefe SLTvices, than when a third, a iourth, or any Part of 
them arcabfconiling in Country P>ace'', wht.re I hey can be 
of no Service eitl.tr to triifmr<'Ivc- or [heii Ciuntrv; and the 
grei'ter Plenty of Seamen *^i' have, tiie more vigirouflv we 
Uiatl be able to pulli the War, which m]\ of courle embe 
us to put a more Jpeedy and liooourabk End to it than we 

c:a 



(At?) 

fotberwife, Thi* will be snotiier Advantage to out 
;beWe* lh»t I have ulreiidy taken Notice of. and 
! a prcVAiIrng Argurm-nt witti evcrj* Mao that nillics 
Ei> hi* L'otintr/. to approve of tKii Claufr. 
N(Mr,S>r, with regard tothe Dangns that miy arift Troai 
'if;ming ordilagrreingioihi^ Law: Ai tho(ewhicti ma/ 
from our rtjciling this Claufe have aiready bern (ct in 
V«r]r full aji<i clear Light. I flulloal/ take Notice of a few 
tf cho^ Inconvcnknctei which, tt h foggellrd, mij tnfe 
the 1-aw propoTed. Upon this Head wc are toid, that 
Power of breaking open People 'i Doon, by Night or bjf 
ly, Will be 1 moll grievoui Inconvenience to private Meo, 
ll Tower o^ the moA dargcrouiConrcqucnce to ourCoa- 
tion. For God's fake. Sir, U chii the firtl Time that ever 
:k a Power wu eflablifhed in thit Kingdom I Hare noc 
Ccntl >blei already fuch a Toner in aaay Cafri, when 
hare a proper Wnrnot from • Jullicc of the Peice ? Be- 
the tale ot Felony, th^ y have tne Power to break open 
>r* in Tearch of uncuilomed or prohibited Coodi, and in 
C*fcof GooJf ourtcd off and concealed in defraad ofthc 
lodlord for bii Rent. Was it ever known, wai it ever To 
iDch as fompliioed of, th»t thii Power mt opp;«ffiveIy 
nrihai it was turned towards ihr infljcocing of Elec-: 
\! Thii a therefore a Danger that fron Experience >p- 
to be chimerical i and I hope the Manning of his Ma- 
_ J Kavy will be admitted to be of mote Coi)(c<}Uencc to 
phblic thin the Recovery of any fuch Goodi. 
We have beert likcwife told. Sit, 'Jiat the eflibiilhing of 
a Law will be (uch ■ Grievance tu our Eieiraen ai wilt 
fghtcn them all out of the Kingdom A% Co this. Sir, I 
illready fhewn, thiC it will bva greAt Advantage to ill 
iwhodo not ^ibfcond. and thofc, 1 hope, are iiic great- 
Ibell Part ofourScatnen. Butevco a» lo Seamen that 
cond. it could be no fgcb additional Grievance as woijlil 
ihem into foreign Service ; for, with tig^rd to the Pref- 
;ofSeaniea, I mutlreaily itiink, oor Liwiia iiulewhim- 
A Seaman may be preHnl if found on board a Ship : 
■the Ship mny be (earchrJ f^r him. He tjkewife may 
irtObd It found in the Sircer», Highway*, or P:c!di : bat 
he geti into a Hoare, and gcti a L^or fttut upon himlelf. 
If look out ai the Wimlow and laugh at lite Prefi- 
;i therefore to make our Law conbK wuh itf«lf, I 
t, we ought to give a Power to lae CiviljOffictr to tank 
Houle, and rrco to hteakcpcn Doort id L'afcofNon- 
llttanre. 'l\n would not be lo great a Hardlbip upon ab- 
ling Seamen at the Pcnalttei now irfiidul by Law upoq 
indiAg WaGtrraea or Birgroieni for if tbcy do ntx ap- 
H h h pur 



( 4»8 ) 
jxar » Wattrmeai lUtl when callolM, in onier to be bulM . 
tbe Service of the N»vy, they «re by Ijw fubjcOcJ tolms 
ral PeBaltica, and ycrvvedo not end, that ihu Rci-j'ii 
fbrttd incm abtwd, or any wiy lelTcoed t 
From «11 which I murt canctude, Sir *'^'^■- > 
leap gmi AdrantSEC) Trom this Ch 

wiihoutb«tig expoled toiny Incoovcj..v,.v^ ^• 

thcrefurr, 1 hope, it will be agr<eJ to.* 

K. 
Si r. 

* I in furpriznl to find Gcntlrroen exprvft lb naci> 

giiCDM, as lomr begin to Qiew in thii Detaie, * ^■'- 
rntleman coam here witli a Refolation to gtv 
Bpoa either SjUc ormr Quefiion that ^^. 
hat heard whet may be fomfer or agiir.. 
in 1 Qoedion which In nearly concfrw u:t i 
Couauy. 1 aaaot but be furpnaeJ at fceitig <■ 
pTtis an L'nWiDingncri to bear (he Aigaircfil full) tlLvUld. i 
if they will not be at the Paint to let lu hear their £cintmaA ^ 
opon itaoy other way than by their Arc or N«y. " 
to anecd pattrotly to thofe that wili i tor tho* th '■ 
fyllabtcs mty deicTmiRc ibe C^elttoD, I am : 
ihcm ^Vlllevrr cobTinceaDy rrafontblrMaa n 

* ) hiiTr not tkc \'it)iTy, Sir, lo Lnigisc. i^ vk 
to fay will h»« grcai Weigh; with ;lie Majority : 
fembiy ; but, in Duty to my ConllicucT.ti, I ihimk 
obligeid to cle tny Rndnvourt, aad ai a Member 
Moure. I hne a Right :o be heard. The QudUoaoo*' 
fore ai ii not Gruply. Vr hctiicr we fhall a^roc to tth 
Or no 1 it ij. Whether we IhiU agree (o pot ao F.bJ to •# 
Conftuuiton, and make S'avM ofniiVIt'-i o«jr CofiiLl 
and Pollerity ? Por thlj. in my Of ; be ibc 

ConfrqurRce df our agreeing to th.; . ..., tia«»«verj 

rfad. That our Libeitiei, nay and oar rrapertws tOO» 
upon the Freedom of our Ele^lioDi, u a Nlucim 
bctieve. no Man will conieA. A corrupt Parliameri Buy, ' 
a Time, fuppoit ftn cppitflrc aed wicked MiDifttT4 ' 
Parliament it but the Stteam, our EleJHotii For Pula 
Iklen are the FotiBEain>H»d, anJaj loes ai they art 
and nrtcorruptcd, the Stream willofcourfc ir&bc.awtl 
lafl berome ai pure a> the Fountain from wbcMc 
Bui ih)i Clsufe. Sir. feems to be coatmcd Cor peHfiaaiat i 
Foontain itfctf. aad for rendering ait the tlaaioai m dm 
tivagiom dependent opoo the Will ol every latere iliMte. 

• Let lu coaflder. Sir, that the Freed«i8 of a Hia'i Vac 
« uy EitOioQ aw/ be okcn awiy* not ooly by ux 




4Uh Bribe fn reWy Monty or Buk Notei, but by ibeHopet 
ofbeiDg rcTVAfded for hu Compliaocc, or the Pcau of beiog 

Je to fj^r for fail Stubbornnefs i and if we conCder huw 
a MidiAcr faai icaircady id bil Power to nuke ale of 

^ one of theit Meibodt^ we Hull b« extftmHy cautious 
*dfaakioguiy new Additioos lotbac Power. Thai ourMi- 
liBcrk hive now ■ much greater Coninisnd of ready Mooey, 
'un tbcy formerly ufed to have, can be denied by no Man. 
rio cor-djcn tbc late iDcreafe of tbe Civil l.itl Revenue, the 
great Scm* of late Year* aUow'd even in I'itne of Peace, ior 
Secrct*Serv ice- Money, aod the Saviogt that may be nude out 
of tbc rattSams now granted for ilie current Service. J be- 
lieve, Sn, it will be a Jiitlc coatcUcd, that our Minifteri 
bare now a much greater Number of lucrative Polb and Em- 
ploynxnti at their Difpofal than toy fore>gD MiniAert ever 
ud is tbit Kingdom. 7*heitf, Sir, arc a two-edged Sword ia 
tbe HancU of a Mmiller ; they letvc not onljr for culitvai- 
tnE ihe Hopes of the Compliant, but for iocreafing the Fear* 
of the StubDorn at rjcftioni ; and by our Jate Pia6icc they 
uc Sow bcciimc more ukful in boih ibefe rcfpe^, (h.in 
ever they were before, h it cow become a general and an 
cftiblifbcd O^ r.ion, that no Man ii to expect, or to bold any 
Poft or EmpluymcDt in the Government, unlelt be, and aj 
Iboie over whom he hat any Influcncr, tnke Care to va:c at 
«?try Etcfl ion according to the Direfltons of the Miniiler. 
Wbat an Fflcd thtt m\M have at all Lle^ionf, Gentlemeo 
Biyeaiiry iitPBgloe: If an EtcAor has any thing mcrcrnary 
in bit Temper, he will certainly votcaccording to Cuurt-Di. 
rcAiora at every likilion, in hopes that he, his Son, his 
Brother, or Tome near Relation, may get a Poll, or a Pccfer- 
tniDt, mthe Service of [he Government ; and it Ii a great 
HardCiip upon honcll ^fen, 1 mean thofc who vote upon all 
OccaGoDi accotdir.g loCoiitrience. tobnd rheisfelvn exclud- 
ed from all the BcncAti thai ^tro to be reaped by ferving tbctr 
Country m a public Capacity. Whether it is fo or not, I 
ft .11 rot prciciid to fay; bm 1 amfure it it g^neralty 'bought 
itiai no M.tn ii now deemed c^tp^blc to icrvc bi^ CouDiry, 
untefi hebe ready, upon all Occanont. to fatti£cc tbe Libci tics 
of hia Councr>- to the DitV»i« of tbofe, who have the Difpo- 
(i\ of oar public Employmefitti and thii of itfelf would in 
mVi Countnei be lufHcicni for eflablifhiog arbitrary Power. 

* Bui, Sir. toibc Honnui of my Country, I mult obftrve, 
that here it ha> been found othcrwife. Our Peoplebave m 
ihclr Temper fuch a laudiblc Stubborncfi. and fuch a Love 
of independency, that in moll PLicti, efptciilly in our Coun- 
tiej, a Majority of them cannot be inflticnctrd, cither by pre- 
Icai Rcwanlior fu-.urc Mopci, to give up ihcii Indc^ieiiJcncy 

a b b a u 



( 420 ) 
•t E!cAioBi. If thcf OB but live utd fortMr iWr 

ink prime way. they cbmc to forego tKc HsmiJ 
vantage offenriag ibetr Coun;r>- In & paSlk 
ther than vote accortJicg to a Minidcr'i C^cftM* tti 
Wlion ) and fbrtJiii Kearoa dtvrn Mrthodifai*il 
iriv'd, and fevrral Schemes Utd, for nuking it 
at IcaA very troublcronsr, for a Mjn to 1i«e tod 
BjIiqcU in • private \V«y, anrcfs be fobmiU toTOttI 
Coori-Candidaie at every Bte^tton Thit. Sir, bii,j 
cofU'tnced, beco, with forae Gent'cmm, cKe <bief 
prumoting fevcTAl of thofe pcoil Lawi, thit ire ttam 
iDg i and this teaili me to i-onljder the third Method I 
awing EleSiofli, by {ubjc^mg rhe FJ kiSon totbc fctll 
iering by their Snibborncfi. In ■ Country whtf* th 
s Multitude of prn&l Lawn, ind elpcciaUy wtica ihdej 
nocooly punlfh butcmte Cnmet, Ini> nbci 

te£lioa agaitiQ ihe Ma ic«or Revenge . <t)Bi 

trailed with the cxtxuttve Pjinof the Gjic-'tioiK- 
nty, witboai knowing it, bcgailiy ola BreacLof I 
cate lawi [ and even when he it guilcy uf no B'CJCk»1 
be plagued and haralTcd out of hn Life, or ^t lr»jl i 
BoTiae^, by tbe Government'* 0£cei»: fn (tei 
flancei. he muA not only h< a vtrj ImocA, bti:< 
u\ii refoLte Man. who will dure to vote it aby 
irjry lo thofe Menaces th^r are whifpetd to bica 
TooUc^'a MiniKcr; and if we connder wbtt fit 
EUAori are already brought into foch Cirevnflaacsi 
tnuty pcaat Lawi lately enaded« we (hall hAw moia] 
to wonder ai any E^rfl'on'i being ani&l igaml a 
tereD, than at the Miniller'i having the Dirtd>o« of i 
the EicAiotts in the Kingdom. 

* When our Libertio arc in Co grtat Danger i wkca ' 
i; fo mueh Reafon to apprehend tbe Prevalence of a 
fluencT upon every Etcdlcon in the Kivvdom. OuJ] »fl 
Law, which v^iU enable a Minillcr lo ciillrefi every 
the Kingdom, that thall due todifobey hii Onlcn « 
Icdion F 1 by. Sir, every Man m the Kin(4o« . t^i 
Law Will enable a Mimlter to diflreft not cwlv our . 
but every Man in the Kingt^om, ihai ba> a Houfc 
Head. Ai lor our Seamen, they muil certainlv be 
SI*VMto the Will of every future MiniUer. 
chetf Kink or Coodiiiott be wh»t tt w<U. ; J 

to be prcHcd into bn Mijrllv'i Service, and >j;>;i£ru 
before :he Mafl. The PfcirniR cf Seamen inio Aw 
Servce is,*iu true, an antient PnHiee, and a Pri 
of late Yean hai been too ufien ma*fe oCc of t bai h i 
w^nuiicd by 00 exprc&Suuuc: It llaod» Umt^y 



( 421 ) 

foociaE of Common Law and FrerontJve. tbcrefore tlii» 
tomtr muA ilwa^ibe cxncircd » cbc Peril of the MiniUerf 
ud if it ihouUl be cxcrcilcd unncceflan!)', or ia a more op- 
(nfivv Manner than i* (v«ceilary, ic would be a Mifdemea.> 
•or, for %^-bich the Advitcti might be profccutcd &nd puaifli- 
•d m Parliamcm. Thus, Sir« the law llsnds at prefcot ; 
bM bv toi» Claufc tbe Practice of PrcAng is to be aothorircd 
\ ^prcii StMUte, \Oii that without any LitnitatioDas to 

luty or Time of PrcHing, or as to the Scacnea or Set- 
tui&{ \Ira that are tu be prefled- 

* Sc4aKii or Seaf^iring Men, Sir, are fucb geDCral Wordi, 

iJtat tUcy may comprehend a great many Geotlenieo, who 

•TTct crcAinl ot ihvit bciug Seamen. When a Geotleman 

n nroured wilb bis P^llige on board any of bis MajeAy'i 

^ttif» cT VVar, I havebccn [oid. it is ufual loput hit Name 

BpoQ tW Ship'! Bookt, a» i Siaman on board lliat Ship, and 

wmM oac o' ibc Oi&cer: on board is allowed the Advaniaee 

«( rccciviitgbii Pay : If [his Cliule niiuild be pfTcd into s 

Law. every (uch 'Jentlcinan might be prefTcd into the Ser- 

T<ei zed if be ih:;u!d deny hii being a ScaiDan, the Book* 

of :±>ai i>bip would be productd, a& an tncontcOable Proofs 

\ubttag I Seaman. Befidei, Sir, there are many real Sca- 

wbo ought not to be pielTed ai comtnon Seamen ; 

imutdei*. and fcvcraJ other Officers belonging to Mer- 

'tluH-Sbip. ought not to be preHied into bis NUjcdy's Ser* 

vice «j comoion Ijc^men, In like Manner, when a Mao hu 

left tht 5c^ Scivice, and is ieuled in fome good BudrMt at 

Lud, he ought not to be prelled into his Majctty't Sea-Ser- 

vtn i bot iJ thil Claule be agreed to, we are to authortCe 

Pitfing Witbont ar>y ReQriflion or Limitation ; fothltnot 

>ealy Seamen ina£laal!tctvtce,but every Mao tba^ had been at 

Sea. Or ift ioy Buritscfs upon the Water, will be Iiible to be 

prtfid at common Seamen, and conrc<}ueniIy, will be Aibjctl 

i» ifct% fori ol Court -influence, which ptoccr>ii fiom the Fear 

ot being m^de to fufler lor any fort of Difobediencc to the 

WiU or a MiotUcr i and cati we expert, that fuch Men wiU 

Ton freely at any £!c£lioa, where there is an Oppofiooa to 

lU Coon Candidate ? 

' fiui thit. Sir, 1} not all : Such a l^w at tbi; will have a 
mafifaul EtkSt upon the Ftccdoin of our ElrAton.not ont/ 
*'ah rcgaid toail (uvb as sreo' have ever been at »ea, or in 
ley BuBT^Ii opoa ibr Water, but with regard lo i-v-ry oibrr 
U4Bia the Kingdom, that bappeni to be ii Houfe k-rper. 
Q^ittt and Scctiiiiy at home ii an Adk'tntifr . »-. , .. every 
Ua BoA dcfire, and conkqutmly, being J. I .tiiwel* 

coqkCucA*. or at uofcafunablc Houti, \» l, m hicb 

<*»> Man iiiultdiead. 6/ tUisLawyou ate^o put it m tbe 



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Powes of a Minifler to diAarb iny Houfe-keeper in tlic ' 
Kingdom at often, and at fach Hoan, » he thinlcsfit ; ind ' 
conlequentiy every Houfe-keeper in the Kingdom mnft be ' 
under aconiinual Terror ofdoingany Thing thai may pro> ' 
voke the Minilter to make nfe of ihii Power againfi him. - 
The interpofiiion of an loformation npon Oath will be no Rf> 
ftraint upon this Power ; becaufe MiniAcn are generaHy well 
]>rovided with Informers of all Kind*, and the more wickol 
and oppreffive a MiniRer ia, the more of this Vermin he al- 
ways has about him, and the more profligate ihey are. In 
my Opinion, it will be ia far from diminiOiing, that it will 
inrreafe the Danger of thisCtaufe ; becaufe JuAices are lobe 
not only empowered, but required to grant their Warrant, 
and Conllabies are obliged to execDte the Warrant of the jaf- 
tices. If you leave it at it llandaat prefenti the Execmjon of 
the Law muil be regulated, or at leaft it ought, I think, to be 
jegulated by the prefent PraAice in the Cafe of \*3grants. 
"When the Juflicei grant their Warrant for a general Search 
after Vagrants, and other idle and diforderly Perfoni, ihe 
Conllabies are not to fearch every Houfe in the Difirid i they 
: n; to fearch no where but in Nigbt-Houfes, or Honles of 
ill Repute ; and if they fliould dilturb Houfea of good Cha- 
raAer, by virtue of fuch a Warrant, they might be profecated, 
and would be puniflied ; and therefore, as this Z^w now 
ftands, the Conltables could, in my Opinion, iearch no whers 
but in Houfes reputed to be Harbourers of abfconding Sea- 
men. This, I fay, i) my Opinion; butif ibe Claufe Aiould 
be palTed into a X^aw, I fttall not fay, that my Opinion would 
be afked or followed, and therefore I do not think weflionU 
agree to a Law, which, by too extenfive an Interpretation, 
might be made of the moll dangerous Confequence, both to 
the Liberties of cur Country, and to the Property of crcr^ 
Subjeft. 

• But. Sir, if you make the Amendment propofed ; if you 
require me Jullicc togrant his Warramupon theOathofany 
informer, you will in.-ikcthc evil Conlcquences of this Law 
certain and unavoidable. I'hc Juliicc mult then grant hii 
Warr.int, and theHoufe mail be Icarch'J, let the LharaAer 
of the IIouls be never (b good, he the Charader of the In- 
formtr be never fo bad. yhis, Sir, is more than is done 
tyeik in the Cafe of Felony : a Jullice is empowered to gnn 
his W;irrant to fearch a Houle upon Information on Oni, 
that tlicicisCiufc tofufpefl Itoien Goods being concealed in 
tliat Houic ; but he is not /inquired fo to do : lie may and 
pught to rcfuie granting his Warrant, if the Informer be a 
miMii Pfrfrtn, or or.e ofa bad Char.ifter i and if, upon fearch- 
ing, no luch G>}ods befouid, the Informer would be mat^E 



( 4*3) 
rtnbie for all >Datnagei fuBataed bj fach 
t Inflkv bimfcH nould be matJe anfwcrable, if it ihouldap- 
r. that he h*d gninted his Warrant upon ttw lofoima- 
,OJ lo infutBcicni Prrfon. 

I thcrtJorc wifh, Sir, tbxi the Honourable Genclemta 

fnioycd in UrawiDg up tbU Bill, had confidered a liiilc bcc< 

m Okt CoDUJEution and the I^w^ if their Counlry i for from 

bftBili. « it lUnd* at prelent, the People without JDcors wiil 

WxpCHi imtgiiie, tbey bare very little Regard to the Liber- 

tti, tbe r.'urcrtic], or theEafe of (heSubjcA, poviclcd thcjf 

oobc' ihePowrrand InflDcnccof theCrown. From 

wkoi i -- - -.,i-'. it will, I think, appear, that if we are to au- 

tbonfe Ht(&ng by an exprcf* Suiaie, we Ihould take Care to 

' h imder feveral Rcliniai*. It ought never to be ailowed, 

:ia Cafei of the moft extreme NcccfCty, and when wcour* 

or fome of cur bcA AlHei, are in the moll imminent 

of being invaiicdi for, noiwithlUnding cheLowDcfsof 

i^asri ia bi» Majelly*tSer\-ke, a common Seaman ba^ (o 

Advastagcs in that Service above what be has in the 

iaC> Service, thai, if proper Care be taken to ufc tben 

], V^lwn they are on boird Qur Ships of W'ar, and not allow 

iOflkicr« to opprefi them, or cheat them of what n their 

Datt «n Covcrnment can never be at a Lofs for Seanea up> 

sa My ovdinary Occa£oa ; and when it huTimeta CeflSea- 

Oftcsr* about, in the lame manner is Land Officers zie row 

with Money in their Pockeu to beat up for VoIuo< 

la paAng fuch n Law, Sir, we {hould iikewirc uke Care, 

till th«ewbo arc in any fuperior Station in the Mcrcb-ints 

bcnrkiT, flttl) not be rrrlTed aitcomtDOQScaaicn into hitMa* 

lei/'afi^tfTicr ; and itpt thole Seamen who have UftoA the 

Sn>Scrvice. and are (cttlcd in fome good Bufioeft at Liad, 

tbaU aoc be pieJCtd into bit \fajrSy'i Service at Sea; far if 

•eeftablilkl'i'eiringby I^w, without fucb RetlriOioni,it will 

oar very Breed of Seamen, by prcvenbngany Man'» 

kg binifelf loihcSeafbrlhc future, and by driving nioft 

Seamen we cow have into foreign Service : for iho* 

kaow that in other Countries they mull be ■> muck 

Sims* *> ibcy arc in their ovio, they will nevcrthelcfi hive 

l^ Confotl, that in fuck Countriei they are upon au eqiui 

FevtMf vkh thcredortbe Peoplei whereas in this Country. 

if «« ctibliih Prefling by Sutute, without proper Rcnridioni, 

niry SeaouB, lei bit future Fortune be never foconitdenUe, 

■■Abe a Slave tu oar Minillen, and whilQ we have any 

Lteny le^ wbicb, itmafrud.wiMid not beJoog, ike^ will 

•ilk Regret look upo& tbiniieivffi u the only SUrts lo the 

Biti 




cai 'I'Bii, iifty,wui iMtta uoror 

aocgoand erter into the Gofrrnmrnt'i 
Vttis begins : for it the C'liufe h word 
he ciD otbenvife with anj' Certainty an 
bcingan nbkondrngSesraan. Wotildf)' 
ble Hirdfhip upon oar S«anira in grnenl 
mnny Ofc*. be cruel aixJ tnhuroan * Wi 
punilh a Mother for conce^bling a FaTiiaf 
|er for concealing her Knher? I (hal| ~ 
ai we bare any Seamen in the. Km 
perly be called, an AH for the fpeeJier 
jcltvVFIrct, beoufe it wouU make it ati 
SmK to lira for two Days aftrr a I 
Fanofbis MajrO^'^Domiaion), without 
board hitM^jeA/i Ftrr; ; but how aa A^ 
men, and all their FticDdmnd RrUiioni, 
HaTtllTiips can be calleH an Afl tor the 
Ittcrcsfe of Seamen, it what I cannot com 
' ' In all Confl'tutroRi and KcguUtKmio 
ara, there mull be fome I oconven tracts 
titeccrt that proceed fn^re KepublkaA 
ment are generalljr made Ui> of by 
Men, for inirodocing fuch Alterations 
Lationa, as make way far arbitrar)- Powvr. 
get into the Ciuvernmeni of a Comnoil 
Caie (o tncrcale every iDCoavca 
Fences of Liberty, iQ oider to iM 
able Powers 'l.'!io\t of vrak V 




(425) 

n nr.-Z Liwt of tK* mofl rfangcrou* Confcqucrce to Libcr- 
■■■ I 'fthe Iiie famous Excil'e Schrmehad fiicceeded. our 
hud been uiktIj' undone: beuufc ii would have 
t^ «...<(, I iliink, will be [he Cnnfequence of the Scheme 
''■iwlrr our Ccinfideraticn : It wm'd have madt-our Mi- 
yM»ticn oi cvcty popular Eleilion in the Kingdom. 
ol Itwetmg our buMc-^rand correfting the Nfgltfis 
tier af ou''C'ul1am Houir and Kxcilc Officers, which 
I'd hare been ihr piojirr, ap.d I beiwvc an eficflual Me- 
*^r p'< venting Smuggling, almofl every Sefiiun hai pro- 
fotne netv Sciifme fur iivcrtaling the roU'cr& ofthofe 
I) and I nm afraiil, their Keglcfl^ and Abufes have 
brro copnived at, in ojdcr lo increal'e ih« Irconvcmcnces we 
ftx) from Stnuggtiitfi;. thit ifaofc li)Conir«tiirncict m>g)it af- 
onrird' be made a Preteocc fjr velliDg forac new dangerous 
TawTf in our (^nrerncfienr. 

• Upon thn S'i)>j<-fl, 5'r. I cannot !c( pift unobfcrvtd the 
hae fttnout tjin AA. By theclliiMKhed Latvi oFthe Lmtlj 
: that Acl V3i itafTrd or thoughr of, no ^erfoa could fell 
A'c, nrfpirriunui l.iqiiort by'Retjl), withnut i Licence 
ibr juiHceiof Peace; The Jullires hid a Power to rt- 
lfi(ing (tic.r Lkencr. or to ncil p[ when i bey {ilejfed i 
ifijr oiie foil fuch Liijuors wi(liotit a IJcencon he was 
'taw made lub.e tft fcvert Penitiie*. B«fid« this, (here 
(f^ (evere Laws »eainll x'l fuch ss al'owed DrunkonDefi 
X^plirg in their lioufeii and mor«o»er, there were (eve• 
'- Gtn Ihopithat tnighl. I bflieve, haveSrcnindifltii 
'C Nufance. Bv a Nrg'efl of all th^fr Re^i.edies, 
■ ■• Oruntc-nftcfs in Gtn-{hopi arid AIe-houre> Cime 
Height, and wits grner?.!']' complained of, and 
.^,,i.>i by oar Gnrd InqocU withoiif any Reircfj, 
orjufticti of Pence, who >rc eniirt'y under the 
ir.TTt-i'i'n ei our Mifiilttri, wou'il not put the Lftw» io Exe- 
o»f>cn -jiinH thefc Erormitie*. At liiH, *hen the People 
mri' ' " ::pto a rtifScien R:.ge ig«Inft thefc £■ oanitiei, 
«rE 1^ n.u [he Liwi id being were not rulHricnt foe 

prcircT':.rg :ticm( and the* every one that underRood tbc 
Jjw kncMrihe cofitnft, wc Were prevailed en to agree 10 a 
Uff. by which a rery great Addition ivat fflidc to the 
fljft Revenue, tivd tvvrv Virtt-er. lriBl:e:p«f, Ale- 

V, ar.d riaor.y fhop ta 
■ lOi Off m'»nce Hpoo 



to t 




«r, V.tl 

irrr. ^n: ■, 



■iWr 



ce ap- 

-at In* 

cm it* 



parcfit, J>tr, to e»ery ofc-wi^o f 

cnrtfe ol :h« L'i«il.Lift-Reveim-, I 
Bhuc qJ' the Dulin Bpod tpiriluoQi L'-l^ooii, wu owing t* 
ill ih* 



( 4^6 ) 

the Enormities complained of. which were, perhaps, for that 
very Rcafon indulged ; and for the fame Reafon perhaps ic 
was pretended, thai no Stop could be puc to them by the 
I^ws in being, becaufe if a Stop had .been put to them that 
way» the Increafe which hadarofe to the Civil-Ull Revenue, 
by indulging thofe Enormities, would have been annihilated, 
without any Recompence from the Aggregate Fund. And if 
we confider the Neceflity every Keeper of a Pubtic-HouJe 
lies under, for felling fpirituous Liquors in fcnall Quanticies 
to his Cuftomers, the high Penalties he is by that Ad Cob- 
jefied to, if he does fo, and the Power given to the Com* 
jniHioners of Excife and Julticcs of the Peace, to mitigate 
thofe Penalties, we may fee, that the Keeper ot eyery Public- 
Houfe mull be under a flaviJti DepCDdeoce upon our Com> 
miflioners of Excife and Jultices of the Peace; and confe- 
qaently that he muft expcA to be ruined, Ihould he give hiv 
Vote againft a Court-Candidateat any Ele£lian. 

• Thus we may fee. Sir, that, from all the IncoBvcnicDces 
diat arofe either from a Deiiciency in our Laws, or from a 
Neglefl in the Execution of them, an Advantage u taken for 
introducing fome new Regulation by which the Power and 
Influence of the Crown may be increafed. This has fo coa- 
itantly in all Ages been the PraAice of our Mini0en, that 
one may from thence conclude, that every Man. as fooD » 
he becomes a MiniAer, or as he calls himfelf a Servant of the 
Crown, begins to think himfelf in Duty bound to ufe every 
Art he can think of for dellroying the LJberciet of the Sub- 
jeA. This, I fay, feems to have been the way of thinking 
among Minitlers in all Ages, and, I am fure, in no Age 
more apparently than in this. Shall we then, upon this or 
any other OccaCoo, throw afide our fealoufies and Fears 7 
Shall we put a Trufl in thofe, who by their Praflices havs 
given us To good Reafon to be convinced of their having a 
Deftgn to betray us ? Jf we are under any prefent lacoovc- 
niences, if we are under any prefent Difficuitiet, with re- 
gard to the Manning of our Fleet, let us examine whether 
they proceed from the NegleA or Mifconduft of thofe cod- 
cerned in the executive Part of our Government, or from any 
real Deftfl in our Conftitution. If from the former, let si 
remove ihofe who have run us into fuch Difiiculties; and if 
from the latter, let us confider our Conlliiution, and apply 
thofe Remeilics which are moft confiAent with its Security 
kr.d Prelerratiun ; but do not let us plunge into the Pit which 
our Eaemics liave dug for us on one h^nd, for Fear of tumb- 
line over the imaginary Precipice which they frig-iieo ai 
Willi on the other. 

lam 



(427) 

/ I sm br from thlnkiog, we can be under any Di'Sical^ 

in mftnaingH'l the SItipi wr can }i:iveO:ciiGon forinihcpre- 

{t%t W'ai i bui I'uppotc wc were, ihcre arc mitay oihei Re- 

BBcdici tit&iJcs thai now ptopofed. Let us give fanhcr Kn- 

CBuragKmcnti [or forriga Smmen to enter into otir Servkc: 

^^ uicaMnpoftour Alliancei for Aflilljnce : Let us hiie the 

^ of other Nition*. We bivc now foreign Troops in 

Pay, ihti' we have no War, nor are like to have any 

T^oponihcCoDltr.ent Why Jo we rot hire foreign Ships 

"*" of foreign Troops? If we are uniicr the Dificuttics 

tl. nc h;ve OccAAon for the former, but we can have 

c*fion for the latter. Surely t)ii* Nation is not yet re- 

dDwd to fuch mcUncholy CircuniUanccs, that we niutl either 

have no Aliies, or accept of thern upon fuch Term* at they 

(I tfcefofelves may be ptMCcd to prefcribe. The Remedy now 
wider our Confidention is the very worft that couM be 
^oaght of: It it publiftiing oor Dlflrefs to the World, and 
StTJ»g oor Ericmiei jiitl Caufc to tiiumph over us. (f the 
rreoch orSpaniardi owed us a Gradgc, they could in noway 
fe dhAoalEr puoilh ui. II by forcing us to drflroy our Con* 
tftadon at>d give up our Libcrtiei. hr the fike of deiending 
(ttrfcWei ag-dinlt ibcin. Our pafilog fuch a Bill would give 
grot Jay to every Frenchman or Spaniard that underflandi 
lay ttlnv o( our Conllitncion, and. ai I tin againll making 
a!' ' >' . cither in France or Spain, I mult be agaioll 
«g ^ iiisClaurc.* 

U 

St.. 

* Far br !t from me (0 blame Genriemen for being jealooa 
rf the Libcrticjof their Country, and c«uttoU5 of agreeing to 
a«y thing chit nay look tike an Encroachaient upon our 
ConllitutiuD. Thii m general I Ihall atwayi tliink laudable, 
bat dill,] muH (hinlc. it may bepuSied too far. and ulieo it 
a (o, it will always b« of tnJini:c Prejudice o the Nation j 
therefore, Gcn'Iemen Ihould ai Ciun'oufly avoid oppofing 
tlM](e t'orwtrs that are abfolutely oecrflary for ihe Kacrciie 
of Covemmcnr, ai they (hould avoid going nfhty inio ihe 
gtviog of any Power that ia unnecefiary inudangcrou*. No 
luman Conitivance can form a Government or Sy Item of 
Laws fo pcifrct as to Hand in need of no Addition, Attera- 
liM, or AineodmCBt : Fucure Event* make the Imperftc- 
tiont appear ; and as they appear, Caie mull be uken to te- 
■cdy them by new ReguUltoni. This is our Cale at prc- 
frnc. and t( the Regulation propofed be abfoliitcly necellarjr 
tu the Salety of the People, we oiuH agtee to it, even the' n 
$Kiald be attended with Inme Danger to the Liberties o( the 
1 i i I Wbfilo 



(4^8 ) 

Whole or i Fart of the People : byt I hope to be able to 
(hew, that it can be attended with no Danger; and that ihc 
Manning of our Navy is abfolutely nccelTtry for the Safety 
of the Nation b^s, I think, been acknowledged by every one 
that hns fpoke in this Debite. 

* The two chief Objefiions made to this Regulation are, 
that it will be of dangerous Confequence to tht; Freedom of 
our Ele^lions, and that it will be lucha HArdfbip upon our 
Seamen, ai will f-rce them into Ibrcign Sirrvice, and prevent 
Men from breeding themfelvei to the Sea for the future. I 
ihall firlt confide.- the lafl of theft two ObjeAtont, and in or> 
der to fhew, that the Regulation now propo&d will be ro 
Hardftiip upon our SeatPtn^ 1 fhall beg Leave to explain the 
Condition ihey are now in, and the tittle Alteration that ij to 
be made ii) their Circumflances by ihit Reguluiion The 
Power of prefling Seuinen into his Majelly'i Service, how- 
ever niucli it may be doubted of by thufe who have not cxa- 
fntned our ancient Records, is a I'uwer that hat been veiled 
in our Government, I believe, ever fince our Conlliiution hid 
a Being. We have mcntionetl in fume of our Liw Coo}(s 4 
Statute made in the Reign of Richard the Firfl, for making 
fame new Regulations with regard 10 Ships nnd Seamen prel- 
ied into ihe King's Service, which Ihews, (hit PrtOiog was 
cullomary before that Time, and that it was then thought 10 
be legal i and in the fdmou^ Inquifition of Qurenhorougb, tn 
the Reign of Fdward tlie Third, it is exprcfsJy given in 
Charge tu the [nquell among other Things, to enquire of tbnia 
Mariners that were prclTcd for the Kii<g'i Service, and drleri> 
cd the fame. I coulo mention fcvcral otlicr RccorJi ig 
ihcw, ihat ibif Power of prelTtng Seaiiien into the Kmg'i ser- 
vice has always been deemed Irgil, and has in all Times been 
looked on as a Part of the Common Jaw of England : Nay, 
it may even be faid to be ellablifhed by Statute t for in tr.e 
Reign of Philip and Mary, a S:a:u:c was mjde, by which i; 
was enabled, 1'hat Watermen who withdraw themfclres in 
time of Prefiing, (hall fufFer a Fortnight's InipriJonmcnt, and 
be prohibited to row any more upon ihuTliamtri for a Veir 
and a Day after : By an Afl of the fccond ot Queen Anne, 
a certain Allowance of able Scimrn is elUbltflied for Sl.ifi 
in the Coal-Trade; and it is enafled.That if any OfS:cr 
imprcfsanyof the Men fo allcwed, he (haU forfeit ir/. for 
every Man foprclTcd, befidesCoIis of Suit: And by another 
AtS of the fame Reign, it is declared. That r.o Perfop of 
eighteen Yean of Age fhall be excmp:ed from her M jelly'' 
Service, on Account of his being an Apprentice, who fhiiJ 
have been in Sea- S?rv ice bf fore he bound himfelf Appicr.tii-ei 
and farther, it is by :nt Qimc Law cnriitcd. That tuf:b Wm: 

men 



( 419 ) 



bc«t. Bit 



and Liflluci 



rgenun and Liglucrmen. ai dull cot appear, when 
* ;J on by tbc Wjtrrnien» Compny, labc lent to her Ma. 
< Flrci, ihall Cuflrr one MontbVi Imprifanmenl, and be 
fjutilcd working on the Thsme* for luo Vctrs.' 

■ I'hiu it )ip{>cAis.Sir, ih^t thr Poucrof Preffingis by Im- 

plxaitoo llft>ngiy cilabiiAiH by Sc-ituce; antj the Raioa ef 

ni Bor beii g cxpieftiv clUbliOurcl, was ceruic!)' becattfe it 

tmt Alwajra deemed lo be (o cxprefsly cDabliOxd by Cojntnon 

LAif. tiisi ir wai unncccfT^ry to cAsbliOi itio cxprefs Words 

bjrao^ SiXiiic. Having thut Ihevn, that the Power oF Pref. 

&i;f ii ciu.'ilifhfd both by the Common and Suiuie Liw of 

Kingdt^m, I Iholi doi rxanilnc the Cu^otn, which in all 

;: *'. Ctlc»rxpUtn the Law ; and it it ceraJn, that theCuf- 

BO ha* aiw^vs bran, not onlj' to prcfi Seamen out of \Ier- 

duotShipf. bmaUo co learch the Ship hr fuchaiablcond or 

OBKsai (henilclvct oabo^rd. ThElV. Sir. ate the Ciicum- 

§met» our S<:atn«a arc in at prefcnt » thefc are ihe Circum* 

fcacci they have alvrays been in: They may be pre (led at 

l^tH ■«' :)'••«■ arc found in the Streets or Highways, or in 

•ay : It m OfBccr can have Acccfi to them i they 

•-■■ li.^J from oa beard a Ship, and the Ship may be 

: y an Oilicer niul Prefj-Gang. in order to come at 

is.ic: n'K, conceal ihcmfelvci on boonl. Whuc then is the 

gtoi adtiiiional Pawcr dc£rcd f Whil ti ihr great 'Altera- 

t>oa to be mule in a Setntan'* Circumllarcr, by (hit Claufe ' 

I: n noiriorc (bin (hit, thai a Seaman whoahkonds Irom hi« 

Ssty may be (carchcd for in a lloufc. 3» well aj on Ship- 

ksnf. with lliit m^icri^l OilTerenCe. tlut a Ship may be 

■ijt hirn wiihout the Airiltince ofany Civil OfSccr ; 

I'c >s fiot 10 bi: fcaichcd <*itr^oui tbs AllilUtice of a 

UkiJ Ciiiccr. 

* ft Tht;. <!ir, foch an tdditionat Hardfhip upon our Sca- 
rce ilicni into foreign Service, or prevent Men 
(hciiii'etves up to the S«a fur [tie tuiurc? It i: 
■tJJitional Power to the Crown, as wdl dcilroy tba 
. of our f* li<ilioni / I am really furpnud. Sir, lo hrpr 
tgiaary D:inger»fuggr|]ed. By iheLiw, as itdandf 
ent, liie CfOt^n, ai f have fheMii, has a Power toprefa 
imen iii;o the Service, and may exercite that Power 
any one ir the Char-ifler of a coirmon Scam^in, unleCs 
Bakes liioifclfa clofe Pnioncr in iome Ifouli:: yet we 
kaow h/ r.a[<iiciKr, that Seamen ate as little under the In< 
AntKC of I'le Crown, or Ol any Minillcr, with re|>ard to their 
*wng at E't^ioni, ai any other Part of hit Majelly's Sub- 
'\t&*i and tlie Reafuo is\ery pLiio, s ScJinan may veiy ca< 
^'7 iirrvcnt tiii being prc0cd. by enuring hiirlelt on biMrd 
VDe of ojr Ship* of Wu, ai fooii ji a Prcft ji like to begin t 

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and if he does his Duty on board, no Minilier. nor even the 
Captain under whofe Command he is, can tnflift any 
FuniOiment upon him, or fubjcil him to any Hardlhip, oq 
Account of his not voting according to his DtreAion at la 
Eledion. Thus the Cafe has always ftood, with regnrd to 
the Danger of being prelTecl i and as the Danger of bfiag 
iearched for m:iy be avoided in the fame Manner, ihererorc 
we cannot fuppofe it will have any EfFeftupon the Freedom 
of our Seamen's voting at Gleflions. 

* As to the Terms Seamen and SeafearJng Men, itistnie. 
Sir, tbcy are general ; but, I think, they are eafily underilood, 
and have been fufficiently explained by Cuftom: for no Man 
is fuppofed to be a Seaman or Seafaring Vlan, unlefs he it, or 
has within a few Years been in aAunl Service at Sta. as a 
common Seaman ; and none but fucli have ever bren, or 
could.I thinU, (hould this Claufe pifs intoa Law, be prefled 
at common Seamen into his Mb jelly's Service : Therefore, 
'Matters and M^tes of Merchant Ships, or Seamen thatare or 
may be fettled in foine good Bu^nefs at Land, can be brought 
into no Danger, nor under any Influence, by this Claufe ; 
and confequently, with regard to Seamen of all Ranks and 
Degrees, it can no way erxroach upon the Freedom of per 
Eleftions, or any way endanger ihe Librrtics of the Suhjefi. 

( I come now. Sir, to the othsr Part of the Objeflion, 
which relates tc the Influence which the Poner of fearching 
for Seamen may have upon Houfe-keepers that are no: Sea- 
men ; and here in general J mull oblcrve, th:i[ therr is ret 
anyone Power the Crown ir, or c;in be inveiled uith, but 
what might be made inconvenient tvcn to the molt innocent. 
jf thofe who have the Excrcife rf it (Iiou'd prefume tomske 
a bad Ufe of it, and our Judges fhould connive at their Pie- 
[iimption ; but in a!! Cafes, thefe two Caufes mull concur, 
before the Kxercife of any Powtr can produce fuch an Kf&Af 
for when any Power is given by the 1 egifiaturc for a gcod 
Purpofe, it is the Eufincfs and the Duty of our Judges ta 
prevent its b^-inj; turned intoa b-id Purpofe, by punifliipg 
every Magiliriite or Officer that Ihall be guilty of fuch a high 
Prefumpiion. Therefore, whiKt iholV employed in the fie- 
cutive fart of our Government r.fl regularly, or our Judges 
decree juHly, o-jr Liberties can never be in Dinger from any 
Power lodgfd by the Ltgitluure in the Crown, for the ce- 
cti^^ry Ends of Government: and if all our Officer* fhould 
bcromc tyrannical, and our Judges corrupt, T do not fee how 
it would be p'jirr>le to prefcrve either our Liberties or Pro- 
p-r;ie5, any otht r w?.y than by a general InfurreAion ; even 
(ho' the Crcv;n hid not near fa many Prerogative", or fomucii 
fo-j/e:, 85 :c h:;:ii r: rrcfen;. 

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'ibc Crown. Sir, had never, ia any raftaica before, I«mI 

" " ftf a Po*er to feircfi Houlei by Nightorby Diy, 

' c (omc Room for being caunous of granting the 

i;rcii i but fttcb x Power the Cion'o, or at ieali 

: Ju~g'.^ jud Magillratri ap[>ointc<] b^ ihe Crown, have in 

■•s]r C ilei been ^xillcfleJ o(, ever fmce ouf Coallicutioa had 

^■clftg. A* fevc al of tlx-fp e'^iVi lure been meJiuoned b; 

'fc^ncombe and Ic^iikJ Tacr^d, I need not repeat them ; 

ICMte which he did not iiicnuon, I cannot omit taking no- 

taf, which ii thiiof nrrcl\ingt<Se King's Dcbiort for upoa 

at (be King'i Soit Jigainll any Perfop who is bis 

r. tht ShcriB' or tiir OiSccr may bicak open any Koufe 

ch of hioi, afcr